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technofreak
post Aug 2 2005, 08:23 AM
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I been joined with Paidmailengine, and they say in order to get 1c links you must do valid searches. I did all searches on this PTR.... and then about a month ago they complained that members were not earning enough on their valid searches. I didn't keep the admin mail, but all paidmailengine members must remember it... they say averagely many of their members earn about 30c into the site on searches, and they are complaining that its not enough, and if it continues those members will not be honored with 1c links.

This made me mad when i read that, but i thought i do valid searches anyway.... but i don't get any 1c links from paidmailengine or time-mails (both same owners), i do all searches, and i only get a few e-mails per day.

Obviously my searches are not generating enough money daily.... how am i supposed to know what the searches cost - this is ridiculous.

And now, another admin mail..... many people are getting paid through EG and MB so they are incurring a 5% fee, just because alot of people are paying through those payment processors.

PAIDMAILENGINE and TIME-MAILS are very bad PTR's, the way they run is terrible.

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post Aug 2 2005, 11:08 AM
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I been joined with Paidmailengine, and they say in order to get 1c links you must do valid searches. I did all searches on this PTR.... and then about a month ago they complained that members were not earning enough on their valid searches. I didn't keep the admin mail, but all paidmailengine members must remember it... they say averagely many of their members earn about 30c into the site on searches, and they are complaining that its not enough, and if it continues those members will not be honored with 1c links.
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I've never heard of this program but what they are doing is low. :thumbdown:

Have you informed them that this is wrong? If so, if I were you I would report them to each and every one of the search engines they are USING and then I would dump that program and quick! :angry:
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post Aug 2 2005, 11:26 AM
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Yes, dump them and write to each and every one of their search engines. There are plenty of programs out there that as long as you search every link (no matter how much each valid search is worth), you will get tons of emails. I can name a few here, Gainpay and Gainmail are two good ones. They pay super fast too, usually within the same day of request. Then there is Tulipptr and 51searchers with payout at $1 and $2 which you can make twice every month. Again payment super fast, within a few hours. There are so many paid email programs out there that once they check each day and find out you produce a valid search on every link, they flood your email program with emails. All the programs I mentioned above pay minimum 1/2 cent per search and sometimes 1 cent.
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post Aug 3 2005, 04:31 AM
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agreed, there is better sites out there. I only get a few emails from paidmailengine and time-mails. I used to get 35-40 1c links from paidmailengine, but like i say about a month after the admin mail about members are only earning averagely 30c daily into the site, they must try harder or else they don't get the 1c links..... obviously i was one of those members still clicking hard on those valid searches, but failing to click on searches that earn the site more money on valid searches, i don't know how you would ever know how much a search is worth, all other sites just say, click on a link on the search page and visit one of the results...... but for paidmailengine and time-mails, doing this is just not enough.

I just got mad because i spent so much time clicking on links to support the sites and others in "praises and applause" are getting paid all the time by these sites, obviously they know how much the valid searches are worth and hunting out the valid hits that are worth alot of money daily.

I just thought we were only supposed to search for sites that are of interest, not according to the value of the link?

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post Aug 3 2005, 05:07 AM
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I'm not sure but isn't that the site that was owned by a big cheater under a different name, and she just reopened under the paidmailengine name?
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post Aug 3 2005, 10:05 AM
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Wow,I can't believe PaidmailEngine is getting complaints.I earn 40 cents or more a day on this ptr and am always paid within an hour of cashout.This is my favorite site. :innocent:
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post Aug 3 2005, 06:37 PM
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i don't receive mails from these sites either, i used to get 1 cent links from paidmail but i get 0.5 cent mails, not many though. I just thought they were slow on the mails lately, i also do all searches.

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post Aug 3 2005, 08:28 PM
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Is this the latest trend the super searcher I got an email from one site and I can name a few more who do the same, one in advertising section now claims 100 - 120% valid search rate just bumped their post and claiming all the search results it just doesnt seem right. So because I havent applied to be a super searcher I have to have 1/3 cent links and I do valid searches. How come these sites are getting away with it? any other site and theres an uproar.

Super Searcher: Upgraded for free, receive search ads value 1/2c, 1c, 2c,

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If you are an active searcher and do lots of valid search clicks daily, perhaps you are qualified to be Super Searcher (simple as SS below).

SS members will have an additional earnings except from the emails sent daily, SS will receive BIG value emails, usually in 1c and 2c, and the minimum payout is only $1.00.

Terms and conditions to be SS:

you must be active searcher and do lots of valid search daily
apply to be SS member and make valid search clicks for the SS emails with all your heart
you can't use a proxy IP
you have to agree that I have the right either to remove your account back to free member or delete your account if you don't do any valid searches after you are confirmed to be SS member
its very easy to know who do valid searches from the IPs displayed in the click report details of search engines
If you are interested in SS, just feel free to contact me to apply, it should include your username and IP address. you will receive high value emails once you are confirmed to be SS.
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post Aug 4 2005, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE(strolly @ Aug 3 2005, 09:28 PM)
Is this the latest trend the super searcher I got an email from one site and I can name a few more who do the same, one in advertising section now claims 100 - 120% valid search rate just bumped their post and claiming all the search results it just doesnt seem right. So because I havent applied to be a super searcher I have to have 1/3 cent links and I do valid searches. How come these sites are getting away with it? any other site and theres an uproar.

Super Searcher: Upgraded for free, receive search ads value 1/2c, 1c, 2c,

details:
If you are an active searcher and do lots of valid search clicks daily, perhaps you are qualified to be Super Searcher (simple as SS below).

SS members will have an additional earnings except from the emails sent daily, SS will receive BIG value emails, usually in 1c and 2c, and the minimum payout is only $1.00.

Terms and conditions to be SS:

you must be active searcher and do lots of valid search daily
apply to be SS member and make valid search clicks for the SS emails with all your heart
you can't use a proxy IP
you have to agree that I have the right either to remove your account back to free member or delete your account if you don't do any valid searches after you are confirmed to be SS member
its very easy to know who do valid searches from the IPs displayed in the click report details of search engines
If you are interested in SS, just feel free to contact me to apply, it should include your username and IP address. you will receive high value emails once you are confirmed to be SS.
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WoW....I have never heard of sites doing this. Or should I say never heard of them being so openingly blatent about it. I belong to a few search sites...one of them being cash pure which I know not to bother clicking when I'm not in the mood to do searches becasue my mails would dry up fast. But I have never heard of sites coming out and and actually telling you search or don't get mail...and now they want u to search for high keywords or don't get mail? Thats insane. I belong to paid engine but haven't clicked links in a long time there. I never really liked it and I have pulled back the on the amount of sites that I opt in for searches in as I am a few sites that send just search ads and I can only do so many valids. My favorite site is profit share lots of searches and sometimes he even asks you not to search just let the timer run down and collect your funds :) And if you don't do valids he doesn't track you down and cancel your account or not send you mail.

Going to unsub at engine right now. :thumbdown:


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post Aug 4 2005, 07:23 AM
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What are "high keywords "? :)
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post Aug 4 2005, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(leapinlizzards @ Aug 4 2005, 07:53 AM)
WoW....I have never heard of sites doing this.  Or should I say never heard of them being so openingly blatent about it.  I belong to a few search sites...one of them being cash pure which I know not to bother clicking when I'm not in the mood to do searches becasue my mails would dry up fast.  But I have never heard of sites coming out and and actually telling you search or don't get mail...and now they want u to search for high keywords or don't get mail?  Thats insane.  I belong to paid engine but haven't clicked links in a long time there.  I never really liked it and I have pulled back the on the amount of sites that I opt in for searches in as I am a few sites that send just search ads and I can only do so many valids.  My favorite site is profit share lots of searches and sometimes he even asks you not to search just let the timer run down and collect your funds :)  And if you don't do valids he doesn't track you down and cancel your account or not send you mail.

Going to unsub at engine right now.  :thumbdown:
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MANY are doing this now, a whole bunch of "new" ones are and they are all owned by just a few members.
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post Aug 4 2005, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(scammerslammer @ Aug 4 2005, 08:23 AM)
What are "high keywords "?  :)
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In the ppc industry advertisers agree to pay a certain amount for every hit a feed drives to there site. Some advertisers pay 10 cents for a hit some may only pay 1 cent for a hit. The search engine makes a percent of each hit and the search affliate receives a percent of that. So depending on the words you click the affliate earns more or less money.
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post Aug 4 2005, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(nan2b @ Aug 4 2005, 09:35 AM)
MANY are doing this now, a whole bunch of "new" ones are and they are all owned by just a few members.
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Thats just aweful. I belonged to a ptr once that said she was going to monitar the searches...and her response to people saying she can't force them to search was that was true...but that you couldn't force her to send search ads to you either. Which I had no problem with. The same with Cash Pure that is owned by the Gain sites. They never say anything about forcing you to search...but it is understood in the industry that your mails will dry up if you don't....you know that going in and I don't really have a problem with it...but for a site to just flat out tell you search and make sure you search high key words or you won't get mail....to me that is really going over the line.
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post Aug 4 2005, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(leapinlizzards @ Aug 4 2005, 03:52 PM)
Thats just aweful.  I belonged to a ptr once that said she was going to monitar the searches...and her response to people saying she can't force them to search was that was true...but that you couldn't force her to send search ads to you either.  Which I had no problem with.  The same with Cash Pure that is owned by the Gain sites.  They never say anything about forcing you to search...but it is understood in the industry that your mails will dry up if you don't....you know that going in and I don't really have a problem with it...but for a site to just flat out tell you search and make sure you search high key words or you won't get mail....to me that is really going over the line.
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I agree with you its going over the line but people seem to be turning a blind eye to it because they are getting high value links so they keep quiet but its not fair for all the legitimate sites that are not forcing searches, not threatening to delete, not going against search engines terms and not scaring people into being submissive. Take a look in advertising folder and now they are telling you that you can get 100 - 120% valid searches and saying they have select searchers etc I see two at moment who are claiming that.
There is quite a few of them arrived on the scenes lately only accept search country members, I know of at least 5 that do this and I am sure there is more but will they stay around for long?
I dont have a problem with searching in fact doing a search is far more interesting than sitting watching a portal page but if occasionally I do sit and watch a portal page for whatever reason, maybe the search engine turned up rubbish results or offered me porn or drug links so I didnt do finish the search I dont want chastised for it especially if I know that 95% of my time I have done valid searches but none of us are perfect all of the time.
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QUOTE(strolly @ Aug 4 2005, 10:24 AM)
I agree with you its going over the line but people seem to be turning a blind eye to it because they are getting high value links so they keep quiet but its not fair for all the legitimate sites that are not forcing searches, not threatening to delete, not going against search engines terms and not scaring people into being submissive. Take a look in advertising folder and now they are telling you that you can get 100 - 120% valid searches and saying they have select searchers etc I see two at moment who are claiming that.
There is quite a few of them arrived on the scenes lately only accept search country members, I know of at least 5 that do this and I am sure there is more but will they stay around for long?
I dont have a problem with searching in fact doing a search is far more interesting than sitting watching a portal page but if occasionally I do sit and watch a portal page for whatever reason, maybe the search engine turned up rubbish results or offered me porn or drug links so I didnt do finish the search I dont want chastised for it especially if I know that 95% of my time I have done valid searches but none of us are perfect all of the time.
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Turning a blind eye to it is crazy....all they are doing is damaging the ptr industry. Many sites depend on the revenue from searches and sites like the ones demanding you search high bid keywords are going to ruin it for everyone. Why do some people just have to get greedy? :ticked:
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