Get Paid Forum - Get Paid Discussion

kglaser

Oct 3 2003, 05:31 PM

I am personally not surprised by this.

(received in letter from 2-in-1 randomizer, the one that was "free" when you signed up for this Bill2Mail thing)
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It appears that Bill2mail has taken our money and shut down.
Those of you that had added funds to your Bill2mail account should contact the funding source ( Paypal, E-gold or Netpay )
and notify the funding source that Bill2mail has shut down and ran off with all the funds. This is outright fraud and the funding sources should be able to FREEZE Bill2mails funding accounts and refund your money to you.

Whoever didn't see this coming...go stand in the corner!

jkjo

Oct 3 2003, 05:40 PM

not surprised myself..

thank god i donated that so-called FREE $5

;;

royalexile

Oct 3 2003, 05:42 PM

yes i'm pleased that i wasn't one of those who put $10 in to get that free $5

kglaser

Oct 3 2003, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (royalexile @ Oct 3 2003, 07:42 PM)

yes i'm pleased that i wasn't one of those who put $10 in to get that free $5

Oh jeez, I forgot about that...I wonder how many people they got with that?

(and you KNOW some people did it, I mean, if the Nigerian scam letter is still working...)

CrazyChik07

Oct 3 2003, 05:52 PM

Really good thing the site disappeared before I signed up for it. I was going to do it early this morning but the site was already gone. I would've gotten screwed, for the second time with something dealing with a randomizer.

anneonline

Oct 3 2003, 05:53 PM

LOL, there was less than the original 5$ left in my account, so they can have it...
I already supposed this was a scam.

Only wondering whether the randomizer was a scam too.. but I guess that one was set up by the same person.

kglaser

Oct 3 2003, 06:30 PM

The guy who set up the randomizer is already offering another miraculous company that offers you $5 to sign up and another randomizer. Ain't that convenient?

anneonline

Oct 3 2003, 06:44 PM

QUOTE

You have received this email as you are Member of The Amazing 2-IN-1 Cash Generating Randomizer.
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It appears that Bill2mail has taken our money and shut down.
Those of you that had added funds to your Bill2mail account should contact the funding source ( Paypal, E-gold or Netpay )
and notify the funding source that Bill2mail has shut down and ran off with all the funds. This is outright fraud and the funding sources should be able to FREEZE Bill2mails funding accounts and refund your money to you.

Bill2mails Paypal Funding account: sales@bill2mail.com
Bill2mails E-Gold Funding account: 988233
Bill2mails Netpay Funding account: 2173222

I am extremely upset that we all have been scammed. I know that I worked hard and so did you and now it looks like it was all in vain. I have another on going program that I will place any
Amazing 2-IN-1 member in FREE. It is called Pick 5 ( a viral rotator that pays 5 people each time a purchase is made ). The payment processor is Stormpay. If you don't have a Stormpay account, you will have to open one. You can contact your Amazing 2-IN-1 sponsor for their Stormpay referral URL or you can go to: http://www.stormpay.com/?144998

The Pick 5 URL is:
http://pick5.sfipowered.net/index.html
Go look at the site. Normal cost to join is $12.00 but I will
place you in it FREE if you wish. If you had purchased additional rotation in Amazing 2-IN-1 I will give you the same amount of rotation in Pick 5.

To be placed free into Pick 5, you must send me your Amazing 2-IN-1 URL, your Stormpay account email address, number of extra rotation you purchased for Amazing 2-IN-1 ( if any ).

I will be having to place everyone manually via my admin section of the script. People will be placed in Pick 5 in the order their info is received. It may take several days to complete the process. There are over 1900 people in Amazing 2-IN-1 and I can only place so many a day.

Please make sure that you send me ALL the info that is needed.
The more time I spend asking someone for more info ( that they should have sent in the 1st place ) the less time I will have to do the placements.

Thanks,
John

and

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You have received this email as you are Member of The Amazing 2-IN-1 Cash Generating Randomizer.
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I received the following email from one of our members.
He has filed a complaint with the IFCC about Bill2mail.
Please take the time to add to his complaint about Bill2mail.

Thanks,
John

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I've had trouble with Bill2mail as well and on 9/24, filed a complaint with the IFCC on them for not transferring my money. If you wish to add to my complaint, here is the information to do so:

Website: https://www.ifccfbi.gov/update
Complaint number: I03092417494861
Password: hemide

Feel free to send this information out to everyone else. Encourage them to add to my complaint.

Thanks,
Glen

angi

Oct 3 2003, 07:33 PM

****GULP****

WOW---Didn't see that coming----roflmao---

BUT I am sorry for those who got involved in it---

anneonline

Oct 3 2003, 07:51 PM

Guess what: epaydirect is gone too..... ain't THAT surprising!!

LKSMTS

Oct 3 2003, 09:42 PM

Boy am I glad I withdrew the $200 I had in there. I earned that from referrals, so I actually didn't lose a dime in that scam. The only money I had in there was about $16 that I got from referrals and that randomizer. I am so glad that I got the $5 free when I signed up and didn't get suckered into that $10 deposit thing. I'm sorry for those of you that did.

When I signed up for that randomizer I only did it because the $5 was free and it wouldn't cost me a cent. I had nothing to lose from it. And I actually made some money from it.

gotlucky

Oct 3 2003, 10:00 PM

I could not join because I stuffed up my form and they never replied to my email.

Mean

Oct 3 2003, 10:16 PM

QUOTE

yes i'm pleased that i wasn't one of those who put $10 in to get that free $5

Me too

hollie1974

Oct 4 2003, 07:17 AM

Just got this e-mail from them

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Hello,

Our server was down for a long time.
Sorry for all the trouble.
If you had any questions send to us for the past 24 hours please send
them to us again

Sincerely

bill2mail.com

Hmmmmm...............

anneonline

Oct 4 2003, 07:41 AM

QUOTE (hollie1974 @ Oct 4 2003, 03:17 PM)

Just got this e-mail from them

QUOTE

Hello,

Our server was down for a long time.
Sorry for all the trouble.
If you had any questions? send to us for the past 24 hours please send
them to us again

Sincerely

bill2mail.com

Hmmmmm...............

My money is still there.

royalexile

Oct 4 2003, 07:50 AM

anyone else think the site has been uploaded again because they're worried about the fact they were reported to the IFCC?

LKSMTS

Oct 4 2003, 09:22 AM

Or maybe they really did have a problem. I have not had any problems with these guys yet. I even cashed out $200 from them without a hitch. Requested it and within minutes in was in my account.

mcf

Oct 4 2003, 05:44 PM

QUOTE (royalexile @ Oct 4 2003, 09:50 PM)

anyone else think the site has been uploaded again because they're worried about the fact they were reported to the IFCC?

Hhmmm, since epaydirect was down too...yes that could be royalexile.
Glad you withdrew your money LK, and hey....gotlucky got lucky again

anneonline

Oct 4 2003, 05:55 PM

QUOTE (anneonline @ Oct 4 2003, 03:41 PM)

QUOTE (hollie1974 @ Oct 4 2003, 03:17 PM)

Just got this e-mail from them

QUOTE

Hello,

Our server was down for a long time.
Sorry for all the trouble.
If you had any questions? send to us for the past 24 hours please send
them to us again

Sincerely

bill2mail.com

Hmmmmm...............

My money is still there.

My money is gone now..... I bought an ad with it !

kglaser

Oct 4 2003, 10:09 PM

Huh...I'll be darned.
That's what I get for taking this program owner's word for it.

I wonder if the randomizer is still gonna be dead?

fortunacookie

Oct 5 2003, 04:38 AM

I subscribed and joined the randomizer. Used the 5 that they gave. I didn't know that they were scammers. If it works, good for me, I'll be "scamming the scammers", if it doesn't I won't have lost anything anyways. Used a new Hotmail account that I won't be using anymore, instead of my real accounts.

royalexile

Oct 5 2003, 04:42 AM

and how about this that I received this morning?

QUOTE

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This is not spam , this message you recived because
you member of www.bill2mail.com !
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Hello We glad to inform you that our partner opened new pay system
today ! Website adress is http://net-gold.net
Click link and register! You get 5$ for free when you register and 25$ when do first deposit (25$ OR MORE) !

Thank yo for you time !
bill2mail.com Admin

ndough

Oct 5 2003, 04:56 AM

QUOTE (anneonline @ Oct 3 2003, 07:51 PM)

Guess what: epaydirect is gone too..... ain't THAT surprising!!

If you mean epaydirect.net they are not gone. I just logged into my account.

The thing is I have had my doubts about all these new payment processors showing up.

It seems this script is being sold somewhere or something and we have no idea who is getting our information we provide.

I signed up for epaydirect on the recommendation of a good friend but I am not joining any of the other new ones until time goes by and they prove themselves.

Even so I am not giving epaydirect much information yet and certainly not my banking information until I see how it goes with them for a while.

fortunacookie

Oct 5 2003, 05:26 AM

They're selling dates with porn stars right on the first page of their "shop". That cannot be right. I'm glad I joined this forum, good source of information, I'd take much longer to find out.

ndough

Oct 5 2003, 05:32 AM

QUOTE (fortunacookie @ Oct 5 2003, 05:26 AM)

They're selling dates with porn stars right on the first page of their "shop". That cannot be right. I'm glad I joined this forum, good source of information, I'd take much longer to find out.

who is?

fortunacookie

Oct 5 2003, 05:34 AM

Bill2Mail. Saw a nasty pic there under the DVDs, I guess.

ndough

Oct 5 2003, 05:36 AM

they should really screen their shops better...

royalexile

Oct 5 2003, 05:37 AM

Yes, but people are so quick to complain about PayPal aren't they?

I know which of these 'payment processors' i'd rather have funds with

Eldritch

Oct 5 2003, 01:32 PM

Mine money's still there. My own theory about it is that the person running things was actually trying to get away with it and then found out that it wasn't as easy as was he/she thought. Being reported to the IFCC and all that.

Anyway, I didn't loose any money (I had joined before the PayPal payment had to be done) and figure that as long as they're there, and since the randomizer thing is free, not much harm will be done from now on. Just don't fund the account and you'll be fine. Use only their funds for it and he or she won't make a buck.

Eld.

moonlitsubmit.com

Oct 5 2003, 01:57 PM

i still dont trust themm

LKSMTS

Oct 5 2003, 02:16 PM

QUOTE

Anyway, I didn't loose any money (I had joined before the PayPal payment had to be done) and figure that as long as they're there, and since the randomizer thing is free, not much harm will be done from now on. Just don't fund the account and you'll be fine. Use only their funds for it and he or she won't make a buck.

Same thing here. I joined before the paypal thing, so there was nothing to lose. They have supposedly stopped requiring the paypal deposit, so once again, there is nothing to lose. I made over $200 just from referral bonuses from joining under the downline builder. If you don't deposit any money of your own and don't give them any info like cc or bank account, there should be nothing to worry about. Maybe you can even make some money using them.

By the way, I withdrew the $200 to my paypal account, then promptly changed my paypal password and then moved the money to another account just to be safe.

ndough

Oct 5 2003, 04:22 PM

QUOTE (LKSMTS @ Oct 5 2003, 02:16 PM)

By the way, I withdrew the $200 to my paypal account, then promptly changed my paypal password and then moved the money to another account just to be safe.

Why change your paypal pass?

They didn't ask you for it did they? Bill2Mail that is

anneonline

Oct 5 2003, 05:00 PM

QUOTE (LKSMTS @ Oct 5 2003, 10:16 PM)

I made over $200 just from referral bonuses from joining under the downline builder.

LKSMTS

Oct 5 2003, 07:17 PM

No they didn't ask for it. I was just being very careful. I didn't want to take any chances until I knew a little more about them. I even emailed the support and got a very quick and polite response. So far no problems what so ever from them.

Just sucks that you can't withdraw until you have $55.

Eldritch

Oct 6 2003, 12:46 AM

Aye... and the fee for that went up since the site is back. It used to be $3 dollars, now it's $5. Money Order is even $10!

samosanjinocrce

Oct 6 2003, 08:22 AM

QUOTE (LKSMTS @ Oct 6 2003, 04:16 AM)

QUOTE

Anyway, I didn't loose any money (I had joined before the PayPal payment had to be done) and figure that as long as they're there, and since the randomizer thing is free, not much harm will be done from now on. Just don't fund the account and you'll be fine. Use only their funds for it and he or she won't make a buck.

Same thing here. I joined before the paypal thing, so there was nothing to lose. They have supposedly stopped requiring the paypal deposit, so once again, there is nothing to lose. I made over $200 just from referral bonuses from joining under the downline builder. If you don't deposit any money of your own and don't give them any info like cc or bank account, there should be nothing to worry about. Maybe you can even make some money using them.

By the way, I withdrew the $200 to my paypal account, then promptly changed my paypal password and then moved the money to another account just to be safe.

Hi

Just wonder how long time did it take for u to receive money to your paypal account??

thanks

LKSMTS

Oct 6 2003, 10:05 AM

It took about 15 min from the time I emailed him. I had originally had requested via check, but he emailed me to say that wasn't an option yet, so I gave him my paypal. It was there within minutes.

Eldritch

Oct 9 2003, 12:29 AM

And it looks the same all over again. :/
Site not reachable since yesterday afternoon/evening for me. Anyone else?

TechCF

Oct 9 2003, 01:48 AM

Yes, seems like it is down or gone.