Points2Cash.net has admitted he has removed mine and another members account for either asking people if he pays or arguing with him on the forums. Please stay away.

There has never been any complaints about him from anybody. You are doing this because you hate his guts, and doing this as a way to get back at him for telling the truth about you.

Matter of fact, I will advise everybody including advertisers to join Points2Cash.

I was told by someone over at GPTBoycott that what he did was wrong and I should start a thread on it. I have done so.

VenomX, why are you so cranky and crabby at everyone? Just give the program a fair chance and if and when they do something bad to YOU personally, then quit. Don't start giving programs a bad rap for no good reason.

Venomx is giving all GPTR programs a bad rap.

I was a member of points2cash infact I got him over 100 members. I was close to the payout and asked my members if they had been paid and he removed my account.

Points2cash got into a fight with Chris here on this site and he removed Chris's account.

venomx your a big disgrace. Points2Cash will never do anything mean to me at all.

You always complain on programs.

You need to leave this forum if you cant control you anger on programs

I don't think so.

ppprk you dont think so what?

That he closed my account for asking my members if he paid anyone yet?
That he closed Chris's account because he got into a fight with him here over Chris's programs?

I replied to promoballer86zx..

I have complained about 3 programs.

Rich something that removed me for having a cheater in my down line.
Points2Cash for removing my accout for asking if he has paid any of my mebers.
dollarz-mad who points2cash lied to and got him to remove my account but when confronted with the truth from me and another WELL LIKED webmistress he restored my account.

Thank you.

I don't think so venomx. It is only you and Chris that had the problem with him. Chris is not making a big stink about it. All you do is complain about one program, then you complained about another, and so forth. We all are tired of your scamming lies.Nobody else posted to complain. It is just you.

Chris complained before he went on vacation. I am sure when he gets back he will post the same thing.

I don't see why "venomx" finds it necessary
to begin spreading more unprovoked
accusations against Points2Cash. I have
already explained this issue repeatedly.

"venomx" continues to lie about the amount
of earnings he had when his account was
cancelled. He claims that he had over $8,
(the minimum payment amount was $9 at
that time but has reduced to $2 for PayPal
or $3 for E-Gold now), but he actually had
less than $3. His account was
cancelled after he sent lies about Points2Cash
to all members of TopDollarEmails. He told
them that his account was cancelled just
before reaching the minimum payment, which
was a lie. However, no one believed him,
and not one member unsubscribed. Actually,
five new members signed up.

Then Dollarz-Mad sent out a copy of my
response to the accusations. He soon
accused Dollarz-Mad of being a "scam",
posting messages about them on many
forums.

He has also called GetPaidWatch and
a few other programs "scams" for
unacceptable reasons. I later cancelled
Chris Houlihan's (one of venomx's
"friends") account because he
repeatedly posted incorrect and
slanderous information about
Points2Cash on forums. He had
very little earnings.

Now "venomx" is attempting to
escape extensive criticism of his
non-payment of members by sending
a message explaining how "bad advice"
caused him to be unable to pay
them, with no apology, responsibility
for his own actions, or compensation
for long waiting periods to be seen.

Why doesn't "venomx" chat with
his rude exploitationist friends
instead of bothering us with his
slanderous accusations?

Also, "venomx" posted this:

"I was told by someone over at GPTBoycott that
what he did was wrong and I should start a thread
on it. I have done so."

Here's what "someone over at GPTBoycott"
actually posted to "venomx":

"If you have any gripes with Points2Cash,
or any other programs then feel free to
start a thread in this folder, or under
'Bad Programs' if you wish to. The
forum is here ~ make use of it."

No one at GPTBoycott told anyone that
I had done anything wrong. It was only
a suggestion based on something the
person posting it had no knowledge
of. Just another example of venomx's
lies and exaggerations....

If you did not close my account for asking my members if they have been paid by you then why did you close it?

You closed my account and now Chirs's account just because we said something you did not like. You can not do that. I think its time to contact the AG in your state.

PERSONAL ATTACK

venomx, enough lies. I've explained this
plenty of times, but you refuse to accept
that you didn't just "asking my members
if they have been paid". I don't care
about MyECom scripts. You sent an
e-mail to all members of your site
telling them that your account had been
cancelled. You didn't e-mail me
beforehand. You announced that you
were going to do it in MyECom Chat,
which you caused to be shut
down. I suppose you were angry
that you had a disagreement with
me (and just about everyone else)
in MyECom Chat, so you sent that
e-mail. Now you continue to lie
about what was in the e-mail, and
what the intention was, many
months after it was sent. I thought
this was finished, but you had to
post to this forum and start it once
again. "venomx", everyone has
had enough of your unprofessional
immature behavior. Your account
was cancelled AFTER you sent that
e-mail, and your posts here are
contradictory with the e-mail itself.

PROOF THAT "VENOMX" LIED:
Here is part of the false accusation e-mail that
"venomx" sent to all members of TopDollarEmails
in the past:

"Question. Has anyone been paid by [URL]? THey have
deleted my account when I reached payout."

At that time his account was NOT cancelled. His
account was cancelled later BECAUSE he sent the
e-mail lying about his account being cancelled.

"venomx" just posted this:

"If you did not close my account for asking my
members if they have been paid by you then
why did you close it?"

This proves that he is lying. If he now says that
his account was cancelled FOR
sending the e-mail, then his account couldn't
have been cancelled before he sent the e-mail,
as the e-mail message indicated!

He also claimed in the false accusation e-mail
that he "reached payout", which was $9
at the time. He has claimed that he had about
$8 in earnings. He couldn't have had $8 in
earnings if he had "reached payout". Also,
he actually had less than $3 in earnings.

The above proves that he has lied
repeatedly. His forum posts and his
false accusation e-mail are very
contradictory.

So why wasnt I able to login? Huh?

Thank you P2C for the proof I needed that you closed my account for an illegal reason. Ill be calling the AG in your state.

The only person who is in trouble is you. venomx, I notice others posted they called your state's AG for what you have done.

I'm not going to even bother addressing your
ridiculous lies. If you actually read the post,
you'd know that I have proved you wrong.

Anyway, I've just restored your account :P

I don't have time to waste over the tiny amount
that was in your account. If you follow the
instructions on the Points2Cash site, you will
receive payment within 60 days :P

I wonder what "venomx" will complain
about now :D

I just received a confirmation e-mail from RichMails
after sending "venomx" a confirmation e-mail.

I must admit "venomx", that's almost funny :D

If that email that P2C posted is accurate , it would seem your account was canceled for a comment that could have been or become libel . Libel was defined once before , remember ?

What I said is 100% true.

Poncer the one user can call who he wishes. I have 1000 emails from memebers as proof that I have explained the problem and I have paypal and egold records showing proof that I do pay when I have the money in my accounts.

Tomorrow I am doing an overhaul on the terms, there will be NO time frame for payment. It will simply state that you may cash out at $5 and WAIT for payment. Now on you will also be only paid what you have clicked to redeem for. Ill be adding more redemption buttons as soon as I am caught up. Ill be adding a $10 and $15 redemption.

And sorry but chat was closed down because of jaber harrassing the channel with clones and when they would ban one IP he would just use another proxy. It also didnt help to have [edited] and [edited] in the channel fighting with people because we all didnt want to know what they was going to do when they got together with [edited]. Who cares who [edited] cheats with or what guy [edited] is going to heave sex with? That! Is what got chat closed.

Jaber attacked the lobby members, [edited] started talking about sex with guys and next thing you know chat drops and [edited] account is gone. We are now on irc.jabber.net and [edited] has chased all but [edited] and [edited] out of mec-friends just because he is mad he lost his account and none of us think him loseing it is wrong.


[Moderator Note: due to several complaints in the chat room here, all names have been edited out]

"venomx" provoked all of the arguments in
MyECom's paid-to-chat and caused it to be
closed. I'd tell everyone about your chat room
activities but it would be too obscene.

Ok, not that I even have to respond in order to clerify or justify myself because now I realize that everyone knows venom is nothing but [personal attack edited], but I'd like to get across what really went on at the mec chat. This is mattyk by the way. Venom had some sort of crush on goldmine and plain and simple, he got jealous when I started to talk to her, probably because I have a tendency to flirt a little, but so what, is that a crime? So he gets all jealous, calls her a [edited] and demands she not talk to me or else he won't talk to her. So obviously, she says, yeah big loss, see ya later venom, and he proceeds to harass her with constant messages and emails putting her and her family and friends down. Now, I don't know about venom's previous problems with others, but the reason he didn't like me was simply because he was jealous, so what's he do? He harasses me as well. That first day I tried to have a chat with him, tried to reason with him, told him look, there's no reason we need to be like this, we can all be friends, but what I didn't realize at that time was he doesn't know the meaning of reasoning. So he continues to harass goldmine and I, and of course I responded, but I'm only human right? But we never ever said anything in the open chat, and especially, we never fought with anybody either. I may have had my arguments with a few here and there, but goldmine especially never did. Ask anyone who ever chatted with her and they'll say the same. Now, venoms idea that all I did was talk about having sex? Well, he's jealous, end of story. Is anybody surprised he would say something like that? Anyway, that's what I had to say. This thing about me chasing everyone from our new chat is ridiculous as well. He knows the only ones I have chased are him and [name edited] and that is because, well do I really need to explain? Cmon now, and she's the same way as him. It isn't pleasant for anybody and we have plenty of other people who come there to chat with us. He's mad at the world, ya know, whatever, I'm not sure what venom's deal is and I'm not sure I want to. Ok, thats all, thank you for your time.

-Matt Kirschner aka mattyk

haha nice story mattyk. Shall I break out the logs of her telling me she loves me and me saying I had NO feelings for her because for one she [personal attack edited], two she is married, three she has kids.

Ok Points2Cash so why do I still have an account at MEC? Huh? Come on I am sure if I did what all you said I did I would be removed because John was logging all chat.

i can not believe this.....i have never posted in this forum...then i get told to check this out....i get here and see that someone using a different username (hiding behind his real identity) comes in here and slanders me PERSONAL ATTACK i have tried my best to stay out of it ... PERSONAL ATTACK AND BAD LANGUAGE ..... PERSONAL ATTACK i am only attacking you because you brought my name into this...

Face it you and jaber are the reasons MEC chat is gone...you know it as well as MANY others....i have logs to prove my words

Fight your own fights and leave others out of it....yes i may have gotten involved in some arguments previously with some of you, but i am an adult and learn to mend fences and let it go...move on......but i see some cant show their adulthood.....shows who is smarter.....

That is all i have to say about this matter....except MOVE on either get over it or fight elsewhere and leave ppl out that dont need to be in it

This is the LAST TIME I will say this!! Venomx stop posting your crap about me, stop emailing me and sending me p2p messages. I asked nicely.......... nice is not something your understand. Now I am telling you end it here and now!

Don't you EVER get tired of being nasty?? You are a sad pitiful man and I use the term man loosely. Grow up and get a life and stay the heck out of mine!

Helen

Well, first of all venom and [name edited], yeah go ahead pull out the logs. I hear everybody say all the time, oh yeah I have proof in my logs, but nobody ever bothers to show that proof. It's because you are so full of [edited] it isn't even funny. And second of all [name edited], I said exactly who I was in my post, I'm not hiding behind any identity. And then, venom, yeah I can see all these people who are jumping to believe any of your lies. And now they won't believe [name edited] because she is the only one backing you up. You are two of the same kind. You cheat and you lie whenever it suits you. And lastly venom, those are the words spoken like a true jealous CURSING . It's jealousy. You thought I was taking what you believed to be yours, which by the way wasn't even the case. You got jealous over nothin. We did nothing but chat, like we did with anyone else there. You apparently got upset because [edited] you are, [personal attack edited], so you try and make yourself feel better by harassing others.

-Matt Kirschner AKA (and this is for [name edited], yer a quick one [name edited]) mattyk

Sorry but I have a thing going on with Moniek. I have no reason to like Helen and never did. SHE was the one going to leave MEC because she "loved" me and her husband found out and shoved her down the steps.

And yes I did show my logs, to John who canned your MEC account.

Venomx? That is very rude of you to ever say that about Helen like she is a floosy. You are getting downright revolting, and you make all GPTR programs owners a bad name.

If cheating on your husband by having a 3 some with a kid and a guy that says he likes men is "a floosy" then yep you are right she is one.

It is you who called her that, not me. We should what you said about Helen to all your members and let them see how a gentleman you really are.

You know, I have been reading the posts at this forum, the Jaydillar Online and Boycott by venomx and all I have to say is his name suits him. venom is poison and he is sure spreading enough poison about the programs and owners he is attacking.

I suggest that EVERYONE ignore him, no matter what he says, or who he attacks. If he has no one to fight with, he will go away! You cannot argue by yourself! And he cannot be reasoned with, he thinks he is right and the world be damned.

Contention is the work of SATAN, and he is full of contention. He has nothing good to say about anyone. (except himself!)

To venomx, you need to pray, get satan out of your life, read the ten commandments over and over until you figure out how many of them you, yourself have broken with your posts and grow up. You have been acting like a spoiled child having a temper tantrum.

Also, how are you running your businesses if you spend all your time on the forums arguing with people? TCB first. Maybe you'd have less to argue about. Drum up advertising for yourself, quit being jealous of those who WORK for a living!

And if you do have a problem with someone, keep it between you and that person. That is what the PM/IM system is for! This is not for airing dirty laundry, it is a forum for people to find out about the ptr industry, not gossip. I for one, do not believe a word you have said. "I think thou does't protestest too much!"

Enough already,
And be warned, I will not put up with any crap from you over this. I have God on my side. You have Satan. In the end, God will prevail!!!
Karla Fight (a.k.a. Rose47520)

P.S. Am happily married, with 2 kids and am married to the BEST man in the world, you couldn't possibly hold a candle to him...He is a lover, not a fighter!

NO ONE IS LISTENING.....JUST DROP IT.....STOP THE NAME CALLING EVERYONE....GROW UP AND MOVE ON IN YOUR LIVES....LET OTHERS BE...AND I AM TALKING TO ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE POSTED TO THIS FORUM POST (POINTS2CASH.NET ONE)....I AM SO SICK OF IT.....ALSO, SOME OF YOU NEED TO STOP TELLING PPL WHO SHOULD HAVE OPS IN WHAT CHANNELS......


AND AGAIN LEAVE ME ALONE .... :angry

Then I feel sorry for you.

Nobody feels sorry for you venom. You made your bed, now sleep in it.

I sleep in my bed nightly.

hahahhahah....now fairluvwar how would you know what his bed looks like? you been there? oh wait, i dont really want to know that....

lol

I made the bed comment to venomx.