Whats happening to Cashcrusader sites?
First, we now need to login allmost for every single click,
Now everytime we click, the windows start "popping" to the front!

It's starting to suck!

So many "security"...

Thay can?t even secure their own server! As we all now, they have been hacked!



I'm getting tired of this, I will start now looking for new PTR sites that are not from Cashcrusader!

Yes, i saw this point of log all the time...

I have a PTR site and think that it?ll solve in a next version to upgrade.

About windows, in my site, for example (is cash crusader) i didn?t see this.

But don?t hate cash crusader sites. It?s a normal process of learning and adjusting of the product.

Best Regards !

Carlos

I think Cash Crusaders scripts are the best around

Cash Crusader may be having a few problems at the moment but I would rather have to login each time then for a few weeks than use a script that was seriously open to hacking and abuse! CC scripts are undoubtedly the best available, all the other cheaper scripts have way too many holes in them. John at myecom will have the CC scripts fixed soon enough Personally if I see a site that isnt on CC I don;t join.

That's exactly how I feel too. John never rests trying to improve these scripts and make it harder for cheaters and hackers to abuse them. In my opinion cc scripts are the best for members.

This thing about the windows is only happening at the sites that made the last update (I think). But it is very stupid!

I was making my PTC at Mikespaid4email, and the I had to restart my PC, because it crashed!!

If you haven't seen it yet, you will in a few days. It's only a matter of time before every site make this last update!

This has nothing to do with cheating, everytime the script updates it gets worse!

Sucks...

I have gotten burned at too many NON-cc sites. I hate losing my whole downline/earnings when someone usubbs or gets deleted. In cc scripts that doesn't happen...(Most of the time lol)

I deleted cookies and temp and didn't have to login each time anymore for the ones where I had to before.

I also think that CCscript is the best around

Sophie

I agree.

This is so much the same as the cheater issue. John thinks he's outsmarting the hackers, but, if smalltime hackers can get into the Pentagon's computers and mess around, they can get into these little PTR sites.

Each upgrade he makes brings on a whole new slough of problems. We can't change our usernames to remove the email address from the end to protect ourselves from being SPAMMed to death. BUT those same usernames have to be a certain length *as if we have control over the email server's choice of names for itself* and we can't change it anyway due to not being able to change our usernames! Which isn't truth anyway, because a webmistress went into the program and changed my username for that program after John updated her site. Which then brings to mind the claims of these truly being secure scripts.

All of that above was pretty circular? That's what I've been observing too. lolol Which is why I'm a bit fed up with these so called upgrades.

Funny how the hackers find or create new holes with each upgrade. Just as the cheaters continue to update their cheater software, hackers will continue to update their knowledge of script and computer security.

For every smart person, one who's smarter will come along and show the first person they're not as smart as they think they are.

with you 100% on that

I don't get it because I can't change the usernames at my (cc) sites.

Yep. That's the nature of not just hacking/cheating, but all crime. Criminals find a new way to do thrir crimes, 'law enforcers' find a new way to combat it, then the crims find a new way around that, and so on. But if the law enforcers don't keep updating, the circle stops with the crims in total control, ripping off everybody whenever they please. :ph34r:

That is why it is so important that John keeps improving security. And a big part of why I believe they are the best scripts. Popular word from those that use them also suggests CreateYourGetPaid scripts are very good, perhaps as good as CC, but they do cost twice as much as CC, plus more to get all the 'extra' features.

You may find that if there is a bug in the current version, it will be fixed before many sites even get around to installing that version. And try Sophieca's suggestion too (clear cookies and temp files).

Nah - you can't change them. But I guess someone could transfer all information to a new account, which is easy enough - if there are no downline to worry about.

Um...you CAN change them. I changed Tisha's....took me HOURS! and I immediately made a rule not to do it again.

EVERY SERVER can get hacked!
If you know a way to make them 100% secure please PM me.
I will make you millionaire in a week!

Is everyone else getting this??? I have never had one do this. Except when the site advertised causes it.

Sorry to bust your bubble, hon BUT... YES YOU CAN!!!!

I believe I may be the webmistress referred to and if not well I do it too. We've changed literally hundreds of usernames on our site from email addresses to actual usernames at the request of the members....

It doesn't have to take hours to do it if you have someone knowledgeable about programming to work with... my hubby made a handy little program to do the changes automatically based on a minor input of information however, when you're talking hundreds at a time it is time consuming...

Anyway I just wanted to say that YES it CAN be done!!!!

Patricia

Ah - I think we are talking about different things in a way. You can't do it with the scripts, but it sounds like you are doing it by writing an additional script, a kind of add-on if you like.

Somebody remind me again ... what would be the need to change a userID?
You can change the email address as far as I know.

I've joined one site that did this. I hated it and unsubscribed. It was a few months ago. What site is doing this?

You will get it, just wait a few days...

Well if it is on the latest version of CC scripts, I hope John makes it optional. Members won't go for it IMHO.

I'm waiting for my site to come back up (just a brief downtime I hope) so I can test it - I have the latest version I think.

I just tried Clixmonster, it doesn't do it, and they are on version 1.13 (the latest).
Perhaps it is an addon by some owners to their sites.
What program did you see it on?

What about the negative balances?
If your balence gets negative, you get stucked, and you can?t even cancel your account!

What about link errors, emails errors, WM sending $1, $2, $3, link emails, and then saying it was an error?

What about deleting your account, but still continue to receive emails?

(...)

I tell you one thinK:

I love CC scripts, but I think that some upgrades are starting to suck!

Thats it!

I have nothing against them or anything like that!

Not sure about the negative balances, unless it was when the autosurfs first came in. That was fixed in a day or 2.

Most of what you talk about sounds like the site owners doing, not problems in the scripts.

I added the ability to change username to devilpays, which runs cc.

Requires about 20 MySQL querys to do.

Yeah I think I remember John said he left it out deliberately as a security measure .
So unless there's any real reason to change a userID, I don't see much point.

I can?t believe that nobody as seen this yet!

When you click a paid link or a banner, don't you see the window allways pops to the front, sometimes more than once!

I've been asked by John O to post this response th this thread:

Found possable cause to points/cash problem if the site owner selected that setting last when setting up the email and then happened to use the scroll whell on the mouse before saving they could have changed the setting with out relizing it. I will be changing the selection for cash and points to radial selection instead of drop down selection

I thought of that problem too - and this sounds like an easy solution

:ph34r: HACKED AGAIN?!...

I DO LIKE THEM AS WELL. IN FACT I ONLY JOIN PROGRAMMES THAT USE THEM, BUT AFTER THE LAST EPIDEMY OF LOST DATABASES, REAL OR FAKE WHO KNOW?+

Just my 2 cent's worth about username changes.

I have had a couple of accounts hijacked (meaning somehow my password, e-mail address, payment info was changed). Fortunately, I was able to provide my username as well as other personal identification information and got my accounts back.

I don't see a point of changing usernames - it's a convenience of course but if it has security exposure as John says then may be it's not a good idea. And given my experience, I was glad that my username was not changed when I lost the accounts because it would have made things more difficult to get them back.

Dreamlab thast exactly why i removed it from my scripts. here are the security issues that i can NOT change in my scripts if i do then to many people will not be able to login and this is why i added the new option where the person can set the sesession to only work from the IP they create it on.

to many browsers are just screwey and loging in buy the cookie only was not working for alot of those probrowser becuase it seems like half the time they cant send all the cookies correcly to i had to keep the scripts so they could keep you loged in by the session you created durring that login. However you will notice that sometimes when you cookies mess up the the webserver attached PHPSESSION with a long number behind it. any ads on that site will no have that session info. Sure that session will only existing why you are connected to they site and up to about 30 minutes aferward but if the webmaster that ran the ads sees that sessions number they can access your account while that session is active. THE ONLY WAY to safe guard you on this is if you use the IP checking (but some people becuase of their isp can not use that either but its very few) anyway now that i have IP checking on the session is pettey secure becuase the person trying to access that session woudl also have to do it from the ip you created it with.

but what would happend if someone was able to still get your account becuase you could no use ip checking well they IF they otpion was avaible would just change all yoru personal info and your useranem and your account would never be found again. However if they cant change you username then your account would be able to be found and only the personal info changed back.

SO are the security updates realy not worth it. You tell me With out ip checking you are at the mecry of the adveritse and if they are honest or not becuase if your PHPSESSION info durring that one long in had to be placed in the URL becuase your browser did not send the cookies righ that webmaster that has the ad on that page could look at his longs and jsut go right to that url and have access to your account. Like i said the fisrt update i tried to not use phpsessions at all for login but to many browsers would just fail so that means these session id on theose browsers would have to be used and with out IP checking your at the mercy of the advertisers on any page tht had that in the url and witerh or not they happen to try using that session while its still active (up to 30 minutes since your last page request at the site)

also as mentions before. some (a lot) of servers use a shared tmp dir and any of the sites can access the files in it so how honest are teh other webmasters on that server. Can you verify that every sererv that hosts every GPTR site that has a shared tmp dir has nothing but honest webmasters on it. No you can not. A dishosted webmaster can get a list of every session id in the tmp folder and then just type it in the url

http://domainname.com/pages/index.php?PHPS...###############

and wham if you did not use the new (as some of you say unessacry IP checking feature) that person would now have access to your account and they (if the site added code to alow you to change the username) they change the username and you just lost your account..


So fine if you are realy dumb enought to think the world is full of nothing but honseted peopel and that the security upates were not needed, they hay you deserve to have your account hacked an lost mayby it will teach you a lesson

j, the lost databses have nothign to do with the scripst messing up or being hacked, they are lost becuase my mysql server was hacked. amosted every other server disaster i have had this month

So if they webmaster did not have a backup then again that still has nothg to do with the scripts

Such an excused excuse!
...people are starting to open the eyes.

tatu what excuse? The server was HACKED!!!!. It happens, there are poeple out there with no life who have nothing better to do with their time.
What is your problem with myecom? I've seen several post by you about the hacking that they had happen.
It isn't Johns fault that WM's don't do backups.
If you think that WM's have no responsiblity whatsoever to do their own backups, then stop complaing and start some backup service instead of coming in here and blaming it on everybody but the person who is responsible for all the has happened.

Sorry, but you are mixing things.
And I don't know any "John".

John is the person who writes the CC scripts. Do you read before you post?
He is also the person who was posting in the other thread about myecom that you were posting in also. Here is the link:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...opic=90172&st=0

well well....

its none of John's fault that the irresponsible wms did not hv backups. John is not supposed to back everyones sites up for goodness sake.

so, all in all. . i would say..i still trust cc sites..and John of course. and cc sites are still my favourite. . top of the list!

1. John should have backed up his own server nonetheless.

2. Not every "upgrade" is better than the previous version of any software.

Just a note for those talking about username changes....

*I* am the John who does them, mostly for people who have converted from another script that has email addresses as usernames.

Some people are worried about their email addresses being harvested from the referral URL's, and I do not blame them.

I do not add a script to the CC scripts, it is done manually. In this way, NO ONE can steal the account and change the user names on their own.

Due to the security risks involved, I wouldn't even dream of adding the script to change the usernames.

They are done one at a time, and those who hire me PM me here at the forum and pay a fee for my time.

Thank you

John

Tatu you real nick would not have happend to been MORON would it i just find it funny that moron gets band and now all of a sudden you create your account. I also notice you never answered the question in another thread about the line of work you were in but you said service for 18 years. HUM just the length of time moron told me on the phone that he has been in the computer industery. If you are moron give it up already. will you. Will some mod check this guys ip and see where they come from.

mcf
no not every update is better however i fixed them instantly on my server on all sites

moron what on earh woudl i gain by intentionly losing all the data on my servers except lossing hosting customers and possably slwoing down script sales. now i know its tatu is moron just becuase only you would say somthign that stupid, like the identiy theft crap think about it COMEONE who needs to write scripts to get your username phone numebr and address just go to qwestdex.com you need SS numbers, you cant stell someones idenityg and start getting credit cards in their name just by knoing there address.

You just ###### becuase no one is dumb enought to waste time with your scripts so you start this tread in hopes to get some business. You also made a comment on the phone to me that you got some of my customer that were afread to deal withh me with i KNOW is a buch off bull and i notices in the other thead they you are SPEAKING UP for others afriad of me. Come what there to be afread off i dont care if they contiuse to use my scripts i already got ther money. I dont care if they swithc to CYGP ist not like i will probably sell them any more scripts anyway. I dont care what they do, and as i said i KNOW how many paying customers i have toold to take a hick and guss what only one that bought my scripts and that person i told to get of my hosting becoure of other reasons. and guess what the whent back to create a click (show how smart she is)


So i am no convinced that tatu must be moron and frknaly as far as i am concered anyone that hide behind a nick is nothing but a coward.

you will now post how no your not moron or you dont know who moronr is but face the facts when you started that cryptic quote on the other thead it pretty much gave you away.

tatu=MORON.....possibly....

Moron never had anything nice to say when he posted in GPF and I notice that every thread I have read where tatu has posted tatu has nothing nice to say either


Just my thoughts

okay, I'm clueless--who is (was) Moron and what did they do? scammer?

Moron is the owner of Tennputers, sugarcent's host.

And not a scammer, more a troublemaker who thinks John's scripts are security risks.

I really don't know who is that MORON! Was he banned? Why? It seems that some people here don't like others to state their opinion.

I don't have to agree with all of you, and I don't expect you to agree with me!
This is a forum, it is normal that everybody has it's own opinion. Lets respect each other and not start to take "guesses".

I am gonna be here until somebidy says I won't. One thing you can be sure: None of my posts have (or will ever have) bad words or lost of respect. (You can find my posts and see I'm right).

Now lets stop talking about me. We are here to discuss PTR related problems an issues, but it seems that some of you are more worried about me...

Why?!...

So, once again: I AM NOT that Moron!

But if you want to check my IP, fine to me!

I'm from Portugal!

eh eh!

Sorry to disapoint you guys!

I don't understand what your complaint is.. I have only one site that I have to sign in more than once a sestion and it's not even a cc script site... I would say about 70% of the 200 emails a day I get are cc scripts... Personally I like them.

johncorley=Jorjias !

Isn't it illegal in this forum to have more than one username?

johncorley says "he" is the "John", but "Jorjias" is the one who answers questions when people ask things to "John"...

huumm...