This is just a thought kind of anyways my thought is i DON'T think its fair to members of sites to be in a referrel contest with another webmaster. let me explain. say you are in a referrel contest ok and you are out there advertising this certain site well call it boneheadmails ok and you are out there advertising bone headmails on all these other paid to read email sites . well who is to say that one of these other sites let call one paintedpantsmail ok is also in the referral contest right for boneheadmails. well How do we other members of this paintedpantsmail is going to put your ad or banner or link out there for boneheadmails?In the mean time they have theres out there and guess what they win the referrel contest.
I mean think about it they own there own site they can easly lose or misplace your ad intentionaly or unitentionaly so that you wont win the contest. They can easily place there ad on there site and advertise it big time and pay later.where when we want to advertise we eather have to use redemptions or pay for the ad upfront (no credit here) to get our ads out there. What it boils down to is I personally don't think it fair to be in a referrel contest competeing against other ptr/ptc webmaster owners. What are your thougts about this?

Actually as a program owner of many sites and have had many contests......

It has been in my expereince that members tend to do MUCH better than the webmasters in the contests LOL


Out of all the referral contests I have had to date........Only 2 times was a program owner in the top 3......and never was 1st place

Hi,

The webmasters where I advertise never ever put their ads before the ads of their advertisers, they therefore are disadvantaged in ref contest but it is part of the service to their advertisers.

And like Jaz said, generally webmasters aren't doing much better than members these days unless they work very hard ...

What I dislike is when there are two categories, members and webbies ... loads of members entering in one category and only a few webbies in the other competing for the same prizes. Have seen refcontests when 10th member in the winners list had 20+ referrals and number 1 winner in webbies category had only 5 or 6.

Agreed with jazmyni and sophieca. WM may have the advantage of getting more ref if they advertise in their own prog, but members may advertise at many diff prog. It depend mostly the earliest to advertise. I saw/read somewhere even if they combine, WM was not even on the top 5.

And I think this should be in general discussion folder

Hope this doesnt sound stupid but what is a webbie?

Webmaster/mistress. Don't worry You learn few thing everyday

velvettami : sounds like a conspirascy thoery to me. Im sure not all Webbies cheat there advertisers

Yeah, I've kicked a few WMs butts in ref contests

Even right now in the ProPaidEmail contest, I have more than twice as many than none other than Mike

The trouble is, I'm yet to actually win one I keep coming 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc, etc...one day I'll win one, one day

Oh????

Not if I am in it Brian dear

The referral contest at SocialistPaidEmail which ended
earlier this month was won by a member who doesn't
own a paid-to-read or paid-to-click program

Is that a challenge

Do you want me to walk you down memory lane Brian? We did challenge each other in one contest and you know who won

ROFL

Could I challenge you BOTH to build a couple of MY downlines?

We might. If you say please

I agree with you, it isn't fair.

Most of the contests I see are seperate ones with seperate prizes.
Think they are fair,
If I had to compeed against Enchanted or Ironsides (not that he ever wins one)
I wouldn't do it.
I don't think that they are cheating, they value their advertisers verry much!

Marian

Awwwwwwwwww Marian. There you go dashing my hopes I was soooooooo looking forwards to beating you at a ref competition

I joyed a referral contest and can't get a referral to save my life. I guess it is a small pond with lots and lots of fish.

What's the program you are trying to get referrals in?

Pennies By Email A program that probably every one the board is a member of and for good reason.

join ref contest for program that still has few members, you'll get bigger chance to win

I am a member *stops to think* 7 programs right now I don't really want to join anymore programs unless they are proven or at all because I want to be able to be an active member.

WOW... Lucky you. I am a member of over 80 I think it was, lost track. But am active in all of them. Ref contests are hard I think, but thats because I dont have the money to send out ads nor buy the refs, especially since I just got arc79 in one of my programs I'm gonna need all the money I can get, haha.

The amount of emails you must get! Don't you feel like you are reading the same ad over and over? I don't like having to vacation acound and most of my travels are to family members with dial-ups, and I go to send time with them anyway. Why am I justifing myself?

I am a non-webbie about to become webbie so I'll give you my view from the other side soon enough! I;ve won a few referral contests, on LMS paid mail and another program that I have forgotten the name of! If your worried about wm's replacing your link with theirs on an advert you have paid for then when you click it have a look at the bottom taskbar on your browser, it should show the target URL of the page you are viewing, even if only briefly, and you can check its your link. Although doing so makes you excessively paranoid.

There are people out there that haven't joined penniesbyemail...I know it is hard trying to recruit people when the person that is in "charge"(???) of advertising for the goldmember rotation has banners all over the place...But I have heard that that person didn't send out any new banners until a few days ago for the program...

Bird,
You are about to enter the insanity zone??? Gotta watch out, it will lead you to drink...

Lead me to it lead me to it!

More drink

Drink good

Yus yours truly is in the process of site building isn't my banner lovely?

Should be launching sometime September if all goes to plan. IE If I stay sober long enough to get the details done!

Introducing "Get paid to read drunken emails" They might not be typed with fingers on the home keys but if you stare long enought the letters will float into place.

CashAge is a new program from Ironsides with a great referral-contest.
If you join thrue the downlinebuilder I will join your link after you have joined the contest, send it to me in a pm.
Maybe you'l get one in the dowlinebuilder as well.

Marian

I'm just tired of ref contests period lol. They're everywhere lately...something original would be more fun