delvax101
Aug 13 2003, 07:44 PM
I have been reading paid emails before kayspaidmeial was even thought of and anyone who knows me know I never-ever bounce an email. I am online 15-18 hours a day earning a living and I RARELY, IF EVER, HAVE PROBLEMS WITH WEBMASTERS BECAUSE i AM SO VERY ACTIVE.
WELL- I logged in to my account with KAYS after a 3 day vacation--where NONE of my emails were missed or bounced because of my huge mailbox and guess what--THE ACCOUNT IS GONE!
No problem, I think, this stuff happens.
So I write the webmaster asking for her to look into the matter as I had good money and points built up.
Almost A WEEK later-KAY sends me a rude little email saying that my account must have been deleted because I was bouncing inactive etc.
I wrtote back saying that is quite impossible and she replies back --basically-TOUGH LUCK. tHATS THE WAY IT GOES AND OF COURSE. YOU ARE WELCOME TO SIGN UP AGAIN.
RUDE, UNCARING.
Other decent webmasters would go to their backup files and clearly see that I am not a bouncer nor an inactive!
But this webmaster would DO NOTHING but tell me my account was deleted and it MUST be my fault!
BEWARE this program.
She took my earnings and their is nothing at all I can do about it!
PHOOOOOOOOOOOOOEY!
mcf
Aug 13 2003, 10:25 PM
I got mysteriously lost by her too and I heard other complaints just this morning about the same thing
usdollars
Aug 13 2003, 10:35 PM
Well at least you got a reply - I'm still waiting and in fact have given up
There are other complaints posted about this too.
brela101201
Aug 13 2003, 11:13 PM
WTG Kays!! Yet another quality PTR....
What I joke. Gettin' sick of some of these WM's.....
Think they're God or something...
arho
Aug 13 2003, 11:21 PM
Same problem.
Came back from vacation and my account is gone. Actually this was a program I had great expectations about - was going to join gold. LOL.
Now I even cant get a reply why account is gone.
Think it's a mistake. I usually don't loose accounts, but missing answers from WM makes me happy I didn't pay anything.
Had clicked over 500 mails before my vacation.
Enchanted
Aug 14 2003, 05:50 AM
CMI
I had over 60 refs and had enough to cash out twice (almost). I wrote to hear but never heard from her. Had over 20,000 points too.
delvax101
Aug 14 2003, 05:54 AM
I reported this site to the gpt boycott yesterday. I think everyone who has been robbed by a webmaster should try to do something about it!
I really do not understand why people open up a get paid site and then they do not want to pay you!!!!
Yet it happens all the time! We work hard for this money and some webmaster just deletes our account!
Thank God for the good webmasters!
Enchanted
Aug 14 2003, 05:57 AM
nesearch
Aug 14 2003, 06:09 AM
delvax101
Aug 14 2003, 06:14 AM
ENCHANTED--You got the shaft worse then I did!!!
That is terrible and criminal!
Have you lodged a complain with gptboycott?
These crooks should have to pay for this!
If I steal money off someone on the street--I am going to JAIL!
a webmaster steals or does people wrong and nothing happens at all!
AND SOME PEOPLE STILL SUPPORT THEM!
stein1214
Aug 14 2003, 07:41 AM
I got deleted too. As a matter of fact I posted here the other day about it and people were doubting what I said because it was the first time I've posted here.
Anyways, I actually got a pretty quick response from them, maybe I was one of the first to complain about it. But I got same explanation that I was deleted because my clickthru rate was under 50%.
The person who was answering Kays email even said they thought it was unfair how accounts were being deleted. I wish I would have kept that email so I could post it here, but I was so mad at the time Ijust deleted everything in my mailbox that came from Kays.
I thought about rejoining and just trying to stay more active, but now that I see so many more people having issues, I think my is better spent elsewhere.
usdollars
Aug 14 2003, 07:45 AM
arho
Aug 14 2003, 07:58 AM
QUOTE (Enchanted @ Aug 14 2003, 01:50 PM)
CMI
I had over 60 refs and had enough to cash out twice (almost). I wrote to hear but never heard from her. Had over 20,000 points too.
WOW,
What a waste.
Sorry for you.
usdollars
Aug 14 2003, 02:00 PM
Just wanted to add that I don't really think it's fair to be deleting accounts for inactivity now. For heaven's sakes it is summer time in most parts of the world and with that brings vacation and warm weather meaning for most people less time online.
If your site runs on scripts that doesn't have a vacation setting seems extremely unfair to punish people because of it.
I was just at her forum someone posted here
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...=ST&f=1&t=73827 and noticed that a couple of people are awaiting payments for some time.
usdollars
Aug 14 2003, 02:02 PM
QUOTE (arho @ Aug 14 2003, 08:58 AM)
QUOTE (Enchanted @ Aug 14 2003, 01:50 PM)
CMI
I had over 60 refs and had enough to cash out twice (almost). I wrote to hear but never heard from her. Had over 20,000 points too.
WOW,
What a waste.
Sorry for you.
Especially because Enchanted worked very hard at brining in members to this one
tiffany
Aug 14 2003, 03:13 PM
QUOTE (usdollars @ Aug 15 2003, 04:02 AM)
QUOTE (arho @ Aug 14 2003, 08:58 AM)
QUOTE (Enchanted @ Aug 14 2003, 01:50 PM)
CMI?
I had over 60 refs and had enough to cash out twice (almost).? I wrote to hear but never heard from her.? Had over 20,000 points too.
WOW,
What a waste.
Sorry for you.
Especially because Enchanted worked very hard at brining in members to this one
Enchanted
Aug 14 2003, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (stein1214 @ Aug 14 2003, 01:41 PM)
But I got same explanation that I was deleted because my clickthru rate was under 50%.
That is silly. I never click on any search link because I am from a country where most search sites do not pay for traffic from Asia. So I do not click on these links at all and I am sure members know that they send search links also. I stay as active as possible and this is the first program I have come across to be deleting members under 50% click thru.
This is in their TOS:
QUOTE
All members must agree to receive email sent from KaysPaidEmails.
Each individual may only have one account.
We have an absolute Zero Tolerance to Spam! Any spam complaints will be investigated, if a member is proven to be using Spam or UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email) to promote their KaysPaidEmails referral link they will have their KaysPaidEmails membership terminated and may face legal action. Act responsibly and only promote using acceptable spam free methods.
All Members are required to provide a current valid email address. No autoresponders, no bouncing emails. Also you must read your emails or your account will be deleted.
All Services at this website are offered "as is" you are welcome to use these services and products at your own risk.
Your information will not be shared, sold or otherwise used inappropriately.
We reserve the right to cancel/refuse or suspend membership to anyone proven to have cheated or to have attempted to cheat.
These Terms are subject to change as necessary to protect the best interests of KaysPaidEmails as well as the best interests of the members of our programs.
This site will not be responsible for any monies lost due to hackers.
Payouts will be made within 30 days from the date of request with the exception of payouts through e-gold and stormpay and those will be made as funds become available.
***
Have I missed something here? Where does it say members are deleted if the clickthru rate is under 50%?
usdollars
Aug 14 2003, 08:16 PM
Enchanted, have you had an replies to your email to Kay?
Enchanted
Aug 14 2003, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (usdollars @ Aug 15 2003, 02:16 AM)
Enchanted, have you had an replies to your email to Kay?
No mails until yesterday and non today either (I just checked). I am going to post in her support folder at
http://webmadeasy.com
SpendingTheCheese
Aug 14 2003, 08:29 PM
I smell fish!!! :ph34r:
Or Is it Kay that just farted again

.
This one might be going to the slammer (GPT Boycott).
usdollars
Aug 14 2003, 08:30 PM
I'm really surprised by that. I know that you and Lisayi promoted her program like crazy and that if anyone should have received a reply it should have been you.
Enchanted
Aug 14 2003, 08:33 PM
Yes we did. I think I joined Kays using lisayi's link (not very sure). I posted in her support folder:
http://webmadeasy.com/index.php?act=ST&f=58&t=854I hope I get an answer
usdollars
Aug 14 2003, 08:40 PM
I also joined under Lisayi 'cause it was her post about the program that convinced me to take another look. I'm really not a big fan of the scripts she's on and that was why I didn't join in the first place.
But at the rate she's deleting accounts at, she won't have too many members left because I rarely do search engine links too so if that clause about member activity is true, that would have been the reason why my account is MIA.
Anyhow hope you get a reply soon.
matois
Aug 14 2003, 10:57 PM
That 50% stuff is horse doody. I delete over 50% of Kay's mail because it's search junk and my account is still there. Not a valid reason on KPM as far as I'm concerned. But then again, my account may be gone tomorrow, and in this case, will be no big loss with what I'm reading here.
Enchanted
Aug 20 2003, 01:51 AM
Well she has now changed terms and included the 50% thing. I have copy/ pasted her terms as of 15th August in one of my posts above. The 50% click thru was not there before.
http://webmadeasy.com/index.php?act=ST&f=5...&st=0#entry2299Also, by the looks of it, the 50% thing was added in a hurry.
wagdoll
Aug 20 2003, 02:04 AM
I'm pretty sure that before the last week only around 20% of the mails were for searches, and early in the program she sent a mail saying she understood if people didnt want to do the search mails as long as people clicked on the point and paid mails. As far as I know I have clicked on very close to 100 percent of the non search mails, I have not bounced, spammed or used an autoresponder.
I'm about to post on the thread you started on Kays forum Enchanted, maybe more posts there will encourage some kind of response from Kay.
Enchanted
Aug 20 2003, 02:09 AM
My point is, that 50% was added AFTER our accounts were deleted.
If personal click thru % was a problem, she should have included that in the TOS, informed her members regarding it and deleted members AFTER that, not BEFORE that.
wagdoll
Aug 20 2003, 02:14 AM
I agree with you Enchanted. If I had any idea that there was a 50% rule and that I was below that level I would have done what it says on her forum and upgraded using my earnings. But I never got that chance.
angelbaby
Aug 20 2003, 04:27 AM
I am sorry for all of you I wrote the webmistress of this site and she seemed ok wrote back and said that there was 19 people in front of me to get paid so hopefully will get it then maybe another one to say goodbye to
anrkyuk
Aug 20 2003, 04:33 AM
If this is the way she is going to run the program people should have the option to opt out of search mails and have the 50% activity based on the mails that they are sent other wise all she is doing is influencing those that can not search to click on links to stay active. Which for would be advertisers is bad.
mummyinfeb01
Aug 20 2003, 04:44 AM
anrkyuk
Aug 20 2003, 05:05 AM
QUOTE (mummyinfeb01 @ Aug 20 2003, 06:44 PM)
Well this is gonna start anoter riot with the asians
QUOTE
.....as for the members from China or India....my best advice to you is if you want to keep your account I suggest that you upgrade......
delvax101
Aug 20 2003, 06:02 AM
I think we are getting away from the point of why I started this topic.
This woman HAS STOLEN my money and many others. She will surely do it to you too-if not sooner then later!
I cannot believe that people just turn a blind eye to this fact and just sit there doing there ptcs and reading emails that chances are YOU WILL NEVER get paid for!
Naturally-she HAS to pay some select people-or else she would have zero members!
BUT why take that chance?? It is mind-boggling when there are proven payers out there-- such as MEC-CO-OP, MAILING HEAVEN, MANIAC MAIL, Z-CASH, ETC!
Why patronize a crook??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
wagdoll
Aug 20 2003, 12:21 PM
Also people seem to be missing the point that a lot of people seem to have been deleted before the 50% rule came into effect, and others have been deleted who have had an over 50% clickthru rate.
I am hoping that there is a bug in her system that is deleting people and that she is not doing it herself?
If Kay wants to keep her site going she should write to all the deleted people individually explaining with proof why they have been deleted. This may need her to take the site offline, restore a backup and go through all those accounts individually, but it would be worthwhile if she is as honest as she claims to be.
brela101201
Aug 20 2003, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (anrkyuk @ Aug 20 2003, 05:05 AM)
QUOTE
.....as for the members from China or India....my best advice to you is if you want to keep your account I suggest that you upgrade......
Well, THAT'S a crock of s**t
vardar15
Aug 20 2003, 04:55 PM
Ok people, i recently got hired to help her with her site, so soon i will be setting up a support folder to help everyone get there earnings and referrals back.
stanne312
Aug 20 2003, 05:08 PM
var, hope you can get it straight. Thank goodness I listened to my gut on this one and didn't join. Luck to you Var. Sounds like you've got quite a job ahead of you from the sound of these posts!
vardar15
Aug 20 2003, 05:22 PM
Never mind.
brela101201
Aug 20 2003, 05:55 PM
QUOTE (vardar15 @ Aug 20 2003, 05:22 PM)
Never mind.
Great customer service skills
vardar15
Aug 20 2003, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (brela101201 @ Aug 21 2003, 07:55 AM)
QUOTE (vardar15 @ Aug 20 2003, 05:22 PM)
Never mind.
Great customer service skills
Wasn't sure about something, then found out and it was wrong.
delvax101
Aug 20 2003, 09:59 PM
What are you talking about?
What does NEVER MIND mean?
HAH?
vardar15
Aug 20 2003, 10:06 PM
I said that if they sign up they would get there downline back if they used the same name i though, but then i figured out that we have to re ad it in, but don't worry, we'll do it.
shannelle1
Aug 20 2003, 10:25 PM
Hmmmmmmm, deleting people and then changing their terms to justify it.............sounds familiar!! Same owner as AYS?
Mystical2000
Aug 20 2003, 10:59 PM
Well vardar15 that is a start but it still does not answer why inquiries into account deletion were not answered or answered rudely.
QUOTE
var, hope you can get it straight. Thank goodness I listened to my gut on this one and didn't join. Luck to you Var. Sounds like you've got quite a job ahead of you from the sound of these posts!
That is an understatement...........
so goes another page in the Days of our lives
angelbaby
Aug 20 2003, 11:28 PM
well as long as we are all paid I for one am well over the payout amount and have been for quite a while have a great day all
Enchanted
Aug 21 2003, 01:47 AM
It's not a question of payment for me. She can take 2 months to pay me if my account was there. All I want is my 60+ refs back, the money I had in my account and the 20,000+ points back. Is that too much to ask? I do not think so. I worked hard to get them.
matois
Aug 21 2003, 01:48 AM
odd thing....the majority of mails I get from Kays are search mails....I sort and delete most search mails except for my fave programs, so I KNOW I'm less than 50% but yet I keep getting allllllllllllllllllllll the mails
kayspaidemails
Aug 21 2003, 03:09 AM
Ok I've listened to enough so now it is time for me to comment....enchanted pasted the terms before I added the 50% to it and the terms stated this
All Members are required to provide a current valid email address. No autoresponders, no bouncing emails. Also you must read your emails or your account will be deleted.
that left the door wide open......people could have been behind 5 emails and if I had wanted to I would have been within my rights to delete them. There was a time when I had 3500 members and the emails I sent only got 1000 clicks tops...that left 2500 people doing nothing.....this is a get paid to read your email...it is not a get paid to do the ptc section...that is a bonus...also it is not a get paid only for what your referrals read as what was mostly done in enchanteds case. People that do not read their emails are worthless to the website and to the advertisers that advertise there and they are not wanted at Kays.
poneyby
Aug 21 2003, 03:37 AM
I dont really care for paid to search for me so I make money sites..10-15 e-mails a day only searches is a bit to much in my opinion

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angelbaby
Aug 21 2003, 03:42 AM
I hope we arent deleted for being behind 5 mails the site is down and already have 10 emails waiting to be done not a good situation at all with all the refferals lost takes time and money to build them up
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