FastCashEmail have upgraded to the new CashCrusader scripts.
Members now have a new referral link and must tupdate personal information.

Hmmmm, how nice to give us such a big delay to change everything and to click on the links before the changes !

I thought there was a possibility for an average programmer to make a redirect from the old link to the new one so 1000s of people don't have to go and change their link on every place they're promoting the site.....guess I must be mistaking :-(


Did you receive that in a mail Rob , Here it's the 20th of july and I didn't receive this one......


Sophie

Yup I received it in an e-mail...

Grabbing Chris to make a reply now.

Our mail is going out kind of slow but you should have received it yesterday.

I would have given time for people to click the links, but this simply is not possible as John, our programmer, is very busy and I've been waiting for a while for the site to be upgraded. I did not know when it would be upgraded, so I couldn't have predicted anything.

As far as I know, John does not have a script or a way redirect the older links.

Don't see why you would be upset about this...
It has been no different than any other software change over on sites changing from CAC to MEC.

I received the email and I like the script.

Well, I still didn't receive the mail Chris !

And yes, it upsets me every time a CACsite change into MECsite without warning and all the members' ads sent out are worthless because of the change of link ....

I posted it here because I happened to see it, went checking and I lost some referrals in the script transfer, I had to remove the site from the traffic exchangers because it loads too slowly and the timer of 90 % of the TE runs out before the site is even seen by the surfers.

And of course, no redemption page anymore, we don't know what we can do with the money/points we've earned...guess you'll answer me "be patient" like all webmasters do ;-)

And with the money system, for some site I was close to cashing-out but now they only sent point emails anymore without telling clearly on their site what we can do with those points, we've got to struggle thru support forums, mails etc to know it.

And I've got more if you want but I suspect it'll be enough to be yelled at ;-)

Sophie

1. We gave a warning after we changed scripts.
2. There are no paid advertisements that have been bought by real advertisers that are still openly running, so no one lost any money or advertising.
3. There IS a redemption page...
4. The script is running as fast or faster than the other ones, I have had no problems and neither has anyone I've talked to about it.
5. We don't/are not going to send points emails, what other webmasters do is there own business.

Chris, I have noticed that all the GPTR sites who changed over to the MEC program of John's is very slow to upload when people click on links to get to it. Some take like 3 to 5 minutes before you get to the page of the click link and another 2 minutes before the timer kicks in. It seems there are still a lot of bugs in the MEC programs beofre it can be run smoothly. These are the sites I have problems with uploading lately.

PenniesByEmail
95PaidEmail
MonsterEmail
Cashdogg
and Mec-Co-Op

It takes me forever to get though with these sites.

1. True
2. I meant paid advertisments for members to promote fastcashemail
3. My redemption page says this :
When you qualify, you will have the option to order:
Paid E-Mail Ad sent to the membership
Banner Advertising
Paid2Click Banner Advertising
The type of advertising that you qualify for will be displayed below.
So, knowing when and what I will qualify for is still a big mystery to me, I don't know if it is worse clicking on the ads because unles I'll cash out for money, I have no idea what other options I will have !
4. It is slow 80 % of the time for me when all non MECsites are quicker and it is like that for lots of other people I've talked to.....we probably don't talk to the same persons or they didn't care to tell you ;-)
5. Thanks for the information.

Don't take it personally, seems nobody dares to tell what members feel about this MECscript.
It will probably be the best but for the members it is not the most userfriendly yet and if nobody tells you, you're not supposed to know it ;-)
And I reacted when this one changed script because I happen to like the site !

Sophie

Err.. pennies is not on the cash crusader scripts yet, we send the link to the timer when we can to bypass the site, it is slow because of my love of graphics, not Johns scripts. We are on the modified cac mailer, the same one as emaillionairesemail everyone says loads so quickly.
2 or 3 newsflashes..
1) within the next few days emailpaysonline, emaillionairesemail, and penniesbyemail are going to be converted fully to MEC cash crusader.
2) PBE and emailpaysonline are both getting facelifts, Pennies so it will load faster, with fewer graphics, and emailpaysonline because it is godawful boring.
3) Emailismoney was already converted to MEC (and I did one heck of a job redoing that site if I do say so myself
No, I don't own EPO and EIM, or manage the daily running. I just mother hen them. The decision to change to MEC scripts was mostly based on my time limits, the security of the scripts for member info, saving the downlines and the support. I no longer have time to find and fix glitches in the CAC scripting, and I am very grateful to myecom for converting these for me. EIM had been transfered to the server and was showing on the name server for no more than 2 hours before it was fully converted and up and running again after almost 2 months of downtime due to cac scripts. John did a fantastic job with it.

I will not say John or my ecom is perfect, and without hitches at times, nothing is truth to tell. But having dealt with 5-6 different hosting companies, and 3 different affiliate scripts, I am very happy with MEC. I won't host elsewhere, and I love the scripts. John is a perfectionist. anything that is wrong gets fixed, no questions.
I know changing the referral links is a pain, and it was possible with the "fixes" or partially converted sites, but it really isn't as yet with the fully converted ones.

Please remember, every layer of security brings a little less user ease. Honestly the few frustrations of changing the ref link and occasionally logging in are not that bad considering the long term rewards.
I think that was a "bit" more than 2 cents worth
Mary

Hi :-)

I think MECscript is great for webmasters but I have found a lot of problems with it myself as a member and know lots of people unsubscribing from those sites...that's what I want to prevent by posting the problems I had, so some webmaster(s) would pass it on to John, webmasters are the ones who have to tell him about the problems, can't imagine 1000s of members mailing him !

I mailed one of the new Cashcrusaders thru his contact us form...he received it 2 days later !

It seems that when you send out a paidmail thru Cashcrusaders, it can take up to 24 hours to come out....I read that from Venomx somewhere...if I order a NPA from one of those sites it will be out among the latest to come out compared to other GPTREMs...not very attractive for advertisers.

The referrals you have don't show on real time, very annoying when building chains like lots of us do.

And it's really slow most of the time, I really have a lot of troubles clicking on the links..... lot of us members do and webmasters don't....duh :-)

And I still think that CashCrusaders will be great sites for webmasters AND members but now.....

Feel free to show me I am wrong, I would be very pleased to admit I am and if some things I say are right, feel also free to tell John to try to fix it :-)

Sophie

I don't have nothing against PenniesByEmail. I like the program. I just have trouble getting through when I click on the paid links.

Hey Soph
John I believe has the worst server luck in the world. ALL sites mail was horrible for 3 days, not just the converted ones, that was the servers not the scripts. Actually the mass mail at the time was going out fine, it was webmaster mail that was bad, incoming and out going running 36 hours behind.
Today my mass mailings were taking about 10 minutes to send, and the fastest was Key-email, the only one that is fully MEC. My incoming is also fixed
(John does have 1000's of members btw, lots and lots emailing him
On the downline threads I know those are a bear, after so long with cac scripts, people are kinda trained to A) insert email address wait for sign up link (or bypass it completely with the old cacs, which caused massive cheating and spamming issues) C) fill out form, hit enter, close window and D) wait for link and welcome mail (or just edit the link)
The problem with this is they are bypassing an extra step (Hey good idea, will edit the site to say "You must log into your account so the system will see you and to get your referral link" rather than you can log in now)
that step is logging in.
I will fix downline threads, and have even went and logged in for a few so the gaps were filled.
John has went so far as to make your referrer editable at sign up just for downline builders.
Basically if everyone were to follow instructions and pay attention to what the site says it wouldn't be the problem it is. Most are typing as fast as they can to get their ref link out there. Understandable

They are not CAC, the process is slightly different. I think that is most of the problem, but it would be nice if the system saw them when they completed the form rather than having to log in, I agree.
People are also trained to enter their user name as an email address when logging in, "I" was doing it on the new ones and I knew better.

The only sites I have a problem with are mec-co-op and coppercoins, they load SOOO slow, that sometimes I just give up clicking the rest of the 100s of links in their emails

I'm on cable so I don't usually have many problems with sites not loading, I find the script very efficient, but not sure about dial up users.

Uh oh, another thread about MyEcom, how long til this one gets closed?

Hi Mary,

The 4 things I generally ask as being the basics for a GPTREM are those :
1. Finding before I sign up and certainly after I've signed-up what I am clicking for, what I am saving those cents for
Most of the CashCrusaders' sites redemption pages tell me : When you'll qualify for redemptions we'll tell you....... ahem...so, it's all a mystery, I am not allowed to plan it and know it in advance ?
2. Referrals showing as soon as possible and without additional steps.
We often don't know our referrals, so if webmasters don't tell them what to do, we don't see them and can't tell them.
I very seldomly use chains to join companies but for chainbuilders it would make things easier and give some incentives to join.
3. Links that works and load quickly
Well, I am a member of Meccoop, Coppers, Pocket and Golden.....can tell you, clicking on all those links is a nightmare because they very often don't work (Zeus, expired links, already seen links, keeping on asking me to login over and over again, just don't load etc...)!
4. Site that loads quickly for promotions of it.
I've seen several ads for CashCrusaders sites and I was paid for the ads before the site even loaded...so I didn't even see it in the 15/20/30 seconds waiting time...and I'm on cable and generally see the ads showing in the required time.
Same for promoting sites thruTraffic Exchangers.....they don't load quickly enough most of the time.

All additional features are welcome but for me those 4 are the basics for a nice site :-)

So, if something could be done, with the new tools, vacation button, inactives deleted without loosing their referrals, numbers of members showed, cheaters found easier etc...... then, CashCrusaders will really be great :-)

Mary, I trust you'll do something :-)))))

Chris,
> Uh oh, another thread about MyEcom, how long til this one gets closed?
Are you trying to make some troubles in this thread or ..... ?
I still am looking for the redemption possibilities at FastCashEmail...could you please show me where I can find it ? :-)

Thanks

Sophie

ok just 2 questions

1) will fastcashemail still have 1000 levels referral

2) will referrals be restored to accounts

Don't worry, sophieca.
This matter is actually already brought in the MyECom members forum, and John has answered that he will add another server end of this month. This means that the hosting will become faster. ---> So, problems 3 + 4 is solved, right?

About problem no 1, it is actually already answered in the FAQ of every sites, you will ready to cashout when you have reached your minimum payout. You can also see it in your "earning stats", see this statement:
"Ready to cash out?
Visit your Redemption page."

For problem no 2, maybe someone can answer it for me.
Thanks.

Hi,

Thanks Cloud but for question 3 + 4, I still have a problem...every time John adds new capacity, new servers and stuff, he immediately accept new orders, he can't refuse when people ask him...so every time we're stuck with the same problem......but well, I am patient, I'll wait and see :-(

For question 1 : I didn't mean minimum cash-out, you probably imagined I saw this also on FAQ ;-)
Lots of GPTREMsites also offer redeeming for ads, banner impressions, click banners etc..... suddenly it shows, I have it on some CashCrusaders, you can redeem so many points/US$ for 1000 banner impressions for example.....then you begin to wonder what else might show up if you don't redeem right away, see what I mean ?
Lots of GPTREMsites from CashCrusaders use the point system provided by CashCrusader....Chris answered he wouldn't use it but for other sites, I keep on clicking on point sites and can't find on site what I can do with those points, I have to struggle thru support forums, mails etc. to find out, wouldn't it be easier for everybody if we had a page on site saying something like this for example :
So many US$= so many banner impressions
So many US$= so many clicks
So many US$= cash-out thru Paypal, e-Gold etc...
So many points= so many banners
So many points= so many paidads worth 1 point
etc......
At least we would know what we're clicking for even before joining :-)
And if it is not standard format from CashCrusader, 90 % of the webmasters won't add it to their site.

For question 2 : The answer I had lately was : I don't understand why you need to see your referral showing directly.... so ? :-)

Thanks for your help tho ;-)

Sophie

No Sophie, I'm not trying to cause trouble, I'm just stating facts. Almost every thread about MyEcom has ended in posts being edited and the thread being closed by a certain mod.

The link to the redemption area is right underneath the "Point Debits" section and in the "Account Transactions" table.
Or you can just visit it here:
http://www.FastCashEmail.com/pages/redeem.php

Regarding what it says on in the redemption area:
1. It doesn't list the payout because thats what the terms of service and FAQ are for, you shouldn't have to look in the redemption area to find the minimum payout.
2. I am editing that page to give more information, it is only like that because that is the way it is when MyEcom put in on, I'm busy customizing everything to my specifications, but it'll be finished eventually.

And this is what is said in the news section for MyEcom webmasters:
Coming soon: New ways to utilize the "Redemption" feature. Check back later.
So not sure, what's going on.

Regarding points, on almost every site that has started sending points emails I have seen emails or news sections explaining how their points system works.

lisa0967:
1. Yes we still have 1000 levels
2. Not sure what you're talking about... Some account have missing referrals, those that are gone were either duplicate accounts, cheaters, pending accounts, or inactive. I did a purge shortly before the changeover. Unfortunately a minimal number of account were lost in the conversion process but this was only about 10 or 20 and most of them have been put back.

I haven't heard or seen anyone else complain about the loading times for the MEC sites, other than on CopperCoins and MEC.

I'm sure there would be others saying something somewhere if this was a wide spread occurance...
Anyone having similar problems?

you did a "purge" before change over ie you deleted inactive and cheating accounts while still cac script

this means to me that a lot of people using this forum's downline builder are either cheaters or inactive because before this change i had 1000's of referals and now i only have 10

all my referals came from 1 direct referral which i got in the downline builder

On what level(s) were the bulk of your 1,000 referrals located?

Sohpie, on the redeem pages
Mostly this is a case of the webmasters not editing the page for their own programs. Actually I am guilty of that on Key, I DO have 3 redemption options in that will show when you have the earning, (one is 1/10000th of a cent on any advertising, so should be showing for everyone) But I should edit the top part telling member the current redemptions. Basically a matter of the webmaster getting around to editing those besides learning the new admin.

link not found, link expired, is again the webmaster settings or mistakes, not the scripting,
Key links do not expire, nor I believe do Chris's site. The last, with Zeuss, is usually the server, already discussed Johns server luck

A referral will show once they log in or click a link. Now.. if they haven't done either of those things, chances are they are not earning you anything. Even to check stats and see who they referred will get them in the system. (Although I appreciate the need to know, not brushing it off honestly)

MOST of the complaints that are truly valid with MEC scripts are linked to the server problems john is having, not the actual scripting. Slow to load, the zeus error, these are the server, (unless a site is graphics heavy *whine, but I like my pretty key!*)
That has been a problem, and one that is being addressed by John, though I am sure we all wish it would be addressed stamped and delivered.
Most of us webmasters are learning the new admin as we go along as well, we do have to go through and redo things like redemptions. I am going to be doing the html and settings on 3 sites in the next few days, that will take me a while, and I am sure I will miss some things along the way (our members are fantastic at letting us know we have oopsed in a nice way)

Sophie, how often on each site do you have to log in? For me it is very very rare, perhaps once a week or less, but my setting about cookies etc may differ from other users. Wondering why some people have to do that more often than others.

Mary,

You are asking me something here :-)

How on earth could I know how many times they ask me to login, I don't keep track of anything :-)
Just made a copper mail to be able to answer something here : had nine links in it, asked me to login for the first and not the following ones.

Sometimes it asks to login when I go from member section to paid to click section.

Sometimes, when I click on a link it says login, I do login, the next page opening is the same one asking me to login and so on and so on and so on :-))))

Realized also that for the accounts coming on hotmail, clicking on the links thru hotmailsite asked me to login more often than when doing it thru outlook !

It asks me to login more often in ex-CACsites in comparison with GoldenTools...... I still have to join another real CashCrusader that seems to be a key to success, it is somewhere on my to do list ;-)

So, you see, there's no pattern...I have no clue why this all was so difficult !
But even Coppers opened without any problem tonight, so, I guess I'll just wait and see :-)
It's often the case, you struggle for weeks about something and the moment you bring your problem in the open, oooops, most of it is solved by itself making you, well me in this case, look ridiculous !!! :-)

Thanks for your help Mary !

Besides that I'll wait the new ways to utilize the "redemption" feature for webmasters, hope they'll make the best out of it !

And Chris, I don't see why this thread should be closed unless you continue stating facts :-)

Sophie

On the log in page that reloads, again we are looking at "training" Trained to enter an email adress when it is a user name, basically it wants a correct log in when it does that, and it caught me more than once as well till I figured out it was my brain :X
I have heard others with hotmail have the same problem, and that is curious to me, why where you get email would make a difference. No clue, computers are odd critters at times.

Now then... that list of things to do.. you know, joining a site that was built MEC and not converted, the "key"? Err, I DO have a suggestion there that ties in PERFECTLY
just look at the signature :X
Mary

Hi,

I keep the same emailaddy as username very often even when the mails are sent to another mailaccount.......just because I have to login every time again and habits are very hard to remove, so always the same emailaddress as username :-)

About the Hotmail thingy, your partner in crime always told me you were the techie one....I was hoping you could explain me the hotmail problem :-(

Thanks for the hint with that key to success site but allow me to join where I generally do join, sorry for the Gold member who won't have me as a ref ;-)

Sophie

hmm, see I prefer a user name rather than an email addy just to cut out the spam, so use one when I have a choice.
My partner thinks I am far better than I am, and years and years still has not convinced her otherwise. Really I do not know what hotmail could possibly do to cookies on your computer. Your internet and security settings, yes, but a mailbox? Unless hotmail deletes your cookies each time you log in to read mail, it doesn't make sense.
See, I know just enough to confuse myself.
(about key, you left an opening I just "had" to fill
Mary

the bulk of them were on levels 14 thru 17 with 100 to 300 per level, there were a few around 20 in levels 8 thru 13 and 18 thru 21 but not much over 5 in levels 1 thru 8

from what i can see in the "fastcashemail support folder" a few others are having the same problems

I am a dial up user. Here in Arkansas, we have technology way behind for our phone compaies.

Mary, this is what is happening to me with MEC-Co-Op and and 95PaidMail. My e-mail is Yahoo. Maybe it is a link script that is not correct with them. The MEC program might be for scripted for the e-mail address as the login to time script, which takes us to the login page which says that username does not exsist. Mec-Co-Op and 95PaidMail does not use the e-mail address as the username to login.

David, on the fully converted sites, like MEC-Co-Op and and 95PaidMail, you can change your user name. It doesn't HAVE to be your email address. You may want to try it and see if it makes a difference :0)
Mary

Have you seen pocketjingle's last email titled : DANG IT! Links aren't working! .....see it's not just me and not webmaster......unless you tell Brenda doesn't know what she's talking about...ahem..I wouldn't do that :-)!

Sophie

Mine are working fine. Nothing against her but maybe when she was messing around with them she screwed something up?

Did you see the tombmailer email saying she is now charging for support on sites she makes because Brenda keeps messing stuff up? ;p

OK, I give up !

I don't see why I would try to help by showing where the problems for lots of members and/or webmasters are if some obviously don't want to hear it.

For those who helped, thanks :-)

Sophie

If there are so many problems why are only 2 people complaing??

only 2 people well there is Ty Why, eksel, allbigmoney, TheHague4Ever, xgn, and me and who knows how many who have not posted in here and not to mention the people who are not members of this forum. we are just the ones who speak up

look i still really like your program and wish to continue being a member but it is not helpful if you only reply with a . if it is lost well just say so, if it is a problem of just getting people to login for their 1st time since the change, or if it is that there is cheaters in the downline just let us know

anyway i know you are a nice guy and i enjoy seeing all your other posts around the forum so here's a big smilie just for you

Ohhh yeah...
That's probably it, sheesh I can't believe I didn't think of that.
Yeah, so once your downline members login for the first time it should all be good, but there will most likely be some who were deleted.