At least once everyday I am doing my email and end up opening an unmarked search! It's driving me nuts. They are in the cheap links, quick links, and various other names. Mostly they are just a link with no text.

I don't open searches unless I am in the mood and have the time to do them. I want to make sure to do them right!

So here's my question, could I get deleted for opening an unmarked search and closing it with no search? Can I close the window before I get credit and be ok?

Sorry guys, this has been bugging me, and I would like to hear others points of view.

I believe if you close tem before getting credit you wont get in trouble (correct me if I am wrong anyone) I too dont have time to do searches all the time and have closed a couple before getting credit for them.

I agree - searches should be marked. It is simply not always possible to do them, especially considering that at most search sites it takes a veeeeerrrrryyyy loooonnnngggg time before finally any results come up.

And with Dutch Search no results come up at all no matter which word I search for.

Quite a few programs with cheap links, quick links etc.....the links are untimed, so no timer to close out of! I am at the point now where I don't click on unmarked links as I HATE being surprised by search links! I just think it's sneaky. It's not hard to mark something.

And now, when you mark it's a search, say also how much you'll pay for it ... if I don't know how much I'll have for it .. I won't search .. tried once or twice and generally ended up with 0.25 cent or less .. not worth it

Thanks

Sophie

0.25 cents isn't even that bad, I've seen searches for 0.0005!!!!!!!!! I don't click on them, no way.

if we all just stop clicking on unmarked links, the advertisers will complain and then the WMs will get the message.

Hopefully they will do something about it.

If the search is unmarked and is a quicklink you are guarenteed that the link is from someone advertising the search site and not the WM. If it's the WM's search link, then yes it should be marked. If not, well that person advertising it have no one else but themselves to blame if they dont get many people searching.

Paid-to-search links should always be
labelled in the e-mail message, and the
pay rate should be included as well.

It is inappropriate to send paid-to-search
links which pay any less than $0.005,
as less than $0.005 does not properly
compensate members for the increased
time and effort required, nor is it a fair
amount of the profit from most search
engines, especially if banners and/or
pop-ups are included.

When I send out search links,I mark that they are search links,but don't like to mark the pay rate.
It seems some search sites don't like texts like "0.5 cent","1 cent",etc.. or consider them incentive texts...

I agree,search require more time and effort..

The only problem is that WMs should pay more than they make from the search email when they send out 0.5+ cent search link.

I am GUILTY as charged.

I send out quick links sometimes they are searches if thats what the adveritser sends me as they buy them as a LINK only for a very cheap price and Know that there is NO guarantee with them. If members dont so searches on them nothing I can do about it.. Adveritisers take that risk when they get links that cheap.

I would never penalize a member for an Unlabled search link.


Now if its clearly maked thats a whole new ballgame

I would've appreciate if you would've write with your complaint to us @ Dutchsearch instead of posting off topic here.

Anyway, we are working on that problem.

I don't think it's off topic. Wm's are sending out warnings about clicking the link and not searching. When I click an unmarked link that takes me to DutchSearch and I have trouble fullfilling the search request, then that's a problem.
I didn't know that the program is yours, otherwise I would have contacted you about the problem. I am a dutchy too

I consider unmarked search like a paid link not a search link, so sometime I will do the search and sometime I will not.

Perhaps it could be marked "Optional
Search" for clarification. As for the pay
rates of regular incentivised searches,
less than $0.005 may be acceptable if
referral levels are high and/or the
minimum payment is very low. It is
more acceptable for programs to pay
lower amounts in paid-to-click and
paid-to-search sections on their
web sites, although cash links of
less than $0.001 (which I have seen
a few of recently) shouldn't be used.

I am with Jazzy guilty as charged.

We try not to send many but will do a better job of marking them in the future.

Andrea

This may be a very unpopular view with WM, but if a search isn't marked as such, and I click on it thinking it's a PAID TO READ link, then I consider it a gift with no obligation to search. Except for those programs I know are search based, I choose for whom I search and when. There are only so many search engines, and I hate getting the "too many clicks" messages.

Maybe as WM you're getting a few extra cents from those people who go "Oh shucks a search link and I didn't know it so I better search or else......" but I think it would go so much further in the way of member loyalty and VALID searches to mark the darn things

M

I totally agree they should be marked...

Some days I have limited time to go through my mail and searches take 2-3 times as long on average as non search links, I still go through with it, but if there is a glitch (page not found or whatever) I just forget it...

I'm sure unmarked searches bring lower clickthroughs as many people just take the money & run, Then the WM complains...

In fact I would relegate searches to a P2S section within the website...then if anyone wants to search, they can go there...

Exactly!
All links in all emails should be marked with their value especially those that automatically re-direct without a timer. We need to know what we are earning and shouldn't have to log in and find out after we have supported the advertiser.

Yesterday I tried one program - the searches were marked paid searches but had no value stated in the email.
I checked my stats after the searches and ....................... i was not credited anything both times.

I won't name the site but after that I'm no longer a member, as far as I'm concerned that program owner is scamming members and keeping all the search money without paying anything to members.

Cath

Hi

I understand that too but some sites succeed in always telling me what I'll earn for the search and some never .. me just wondering, why can some do that and others not ... I generally search only if I know how much I'll earn ... have been searching too many times for zilch and then webmaster say they have great results on searchengines ... of course, we all search for free or almost for free .... $ 0.001 is considered as for free imho

Sophie

Stil struggling with the searches.
When i click a link, most of the times i see a signup screen for another paid mail i am already in: everybody agrees: i do not have to sign up.

However, when i click a link and it is a searcher, i HAVE to search, otherwise i MIGHT be deleted as a member for cheating? You never know, but the gptr is again a bit less fun again for me.

Apart from that, a paid ad might be interesting, there are some interesting things out there, but the searchers... nothing really (valium, debt consolidation, etc, nothing really interesting: when i want to know something i go to a www search engine, not a collection of ads on some obscure server).

Then very annoying is that sometimes it is not clear there is a search and if i get compensated for at least the electricity my computer uses.

So for now, a clearly marked search giving me 1 cent, i might give it a try when i feel like it. However, when the thing is so slow that after 30 seconds i am still looking at my screen waiting for the search results, i move on.

Unmarked searches, and in particular where also no value is indicated, i might click on by accident, but i won't do a search.

Hi Cath,

With some search engines you can't mark a search link with a value because it's then considered an incentivised (sp?) search...and a lot of engines will delete your account if you're caught doing it. It just happed to Carole at Mec-Co-Op.

There are some programs that I do most of the searches for out of loyalty but I do pick and choose which programs because you can only do so many searches per day per engine. I also get TIRED of searches lol

It would be nice if all search links were labelled as searches though.

I think an even better solution would be for the WMs not to accept search ads for less than a specified amount...say $.05 seeing as how so many people have an aversion to searches. This might also increase the click through rate...just a suggestion.

I think most of these search sites will not delete us for marking 0.5 cent or 1cent,but I don't want to run any risk... because I have to pay the earnings to my members..

When I redeem my points or earning for search link at other sites,WMs mark the pay rate.Didn't have any problem yet,but just to be careful

Now then it is finally clear to me.

People offering me a search link, and offering me to pay for it, might be cheating on the advertiser, they want real searches and not these incentivized ones: they sell nothing this way.

So wm, be carefull to attack members for cheating, because they did click on a search link and got credit for it (so incentivized?), but did somehow not manage to do a valid search.

I don't mind doing a search. During the last couple of months I never closed a link that turned out to be a search without searching. But so what? Some engines don't pay for my traffic. So I would also be happy if they would write what engine is it. I would then only click if I know they pay for my traffic (shoot, I really need to create that list on a piece of paper of what engine pays for what traffic).

P.S. I just got a link for Engine911 here. I have no idea if it pays for traffic from Poland so I won't click. Shrugs.