Well before I would have been in defense of dragone team because I have been paid by them before but with the email that I received today specifying their new changes in terms it looks like I will be cancelling all my accounts with them because I don't have a single referral in any of their sites and was using them for the fact that it is possible to reach the payout without any referrals, they claim it's a means of cheat prevention, to me it seems more like a means of harming the honest members that don't have any downline and click honestly because of the simple fact that with all the ads being funded by payments from other paid to read companies and not having many real advertisers they can't afford to legitimately pay the honest members, anyway here's the email for those that never received it





Hi Grant,



Some changes have been made in the Terms of Service of all Dragone Team Group Websites today.

I?ll copy them to you here so you don?t have to log in at the site:

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All the money earned by your referrals will not be recovered in cash. It can only be used to redeem (with no minimum and whenever you want) in announcements in all Dragone Team Group webs or to buy different products in our web of auctions (Auctionemails) or in our Store (Dragone-Store).



E-gold is not an option for payment anymore. All the members that have E-gold as payment option must redeem their direct and referrals earnings at AuctionEmails.com or Dragone-Store.com.



All the members that want to cash out their direct earnings and have Paypal as payment option MUST have at least 1 active 1st level referral in their downline (must be active for at least 30 days). Gold and Silver members can redeem their direct earnings with no minimum even if they don?t have any referral in their downline.

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I?ll explain why we have made this decision:



1) Only 1% of our revenues came from E-gold and 50% of the members want to be paid by E-gold. We had found very difficult to fund our E-gold account and things went worst last week when our E-gold account was hacked and all the money we had there was stolen. We really got tired, so the decision is: we will only pay using PayPal from now on. I know that many of you will be upset about it because Paypal is not international and many people can?t use it. We will look for another international method of payment to replace E-Gold, that must be easy to fund using Paypal, so that everyone should be able to be paid from us.

So, if you have E-Gold as payment method and you can use Paypal please change it. If you can?t use Paypal we invite you to stay with Us and redeem your earnings for advertising or product of our Store (Dragone-Store that will be soon launched).



2) If you want to cash out you must have at least 1st level Active referral in your downline. Why that? Well, there have been lots of attempts of cheating in all of our sites in the past months. We don?t want to ban any country like other sites did...We want active members... Members that not only click on paid links, but that support us too promoting the sites. Come on!! It?s not that difficult to get 1 referral! You can refer a friend or relative. If you find it impossible to refer 1 person you will be able to purchase it in future auctions.



Well, this were the changes and the explanations...

We prefer to write to you before you read about it in different forums...

It is important to tell you too that all the cashouts that where requested before the change of Terms will be paid.



We will continue paying our members...as we have always done (even though with delate sometimes, specially because of E-gold funding problems).



This change of Terms was something we need to do. Let?s hope most of you will understand them.



Best regards,

Dragone Team Group



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Dragone Team



http://www.AuctionEmails.com



http://www.BondJamesBond.net



http://www.EmailPayAll.com



http://www.EmailsPayU.com



http://www.EmailPremium.com



http://www.GetPaidByEmail.com



http://www.PaidMail4All.com



http://www.ReferralPremium.com



http://www.SpiderManEmails.com



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, You are receiving this email because you joined emailpremium.com

& agreed to receive emails. If you no longer wish to be rewarded for reading emails

from us, then you must log into your members area & click the link there to quit the

program. Thanks!

This makes no sense to me. I have to have at least 1 active referral because "there have been lots of attempts at cheating..."? What difference is me having an active referral going to make in the course of cheating? What if my ONE active referral IS A CHEATER!?!?

*I* think this is an attempt to get folks to promote the sites, or buy referrals from them. I haven't seen Dragone Teams sites promoted in banners, emails, boards, for quite a while now. Me having to have at least one active referral because of cheating at their sites is completely nonsensical. Neither thing has anything to do with the other.

Nuts to that.

~ Ambrie ~

THEY DON'T WANT PAY! THEY ONLY PAY SOMETAIMS TO KEEP GOING. THEY ARE WORST CAIND OF CHATER WHO PAYS SOME BUT DON'T PAY LOT OFF (GRRRRRRRR).
THEY ARE STEALLING YOUR REFERALS.

HOW THEY DARE - DEMAND ACTIVE REFERAL - I SEE ONLY ONE EXPLANATION THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY.

ANYONE KNOW THE OWNERS OF THIS SITE'S

IT'S UNFAIR TO OTHER WEBMASTERS WHO PAYS IN DAYS(EVERY ONE) NOT MONTHS (TO SOME).
ANYONE WANT TO DEFEND THEM?
By the way i am searching for complains about dragon team firms

1. http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...537&f=2&t=54390
3.http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&track=8537&f=2&t=53898
4. http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...537&f=2&t=53805
5. http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...537&f=2&t=53876
6.http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&track=8537&f=2&t=39096

I THINK ITS DISGUSTING.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSES WHO DONT HAVE A BANK OR CC TO BE ABEL TO HAVE A PAYPAL?
IV JUST STARTED TO GET REFERALS BUT IM QUITING ALL DRAGON TEAM SITES COS THIS CHANGE OF TERM IS WRONG
BOYCOT,BOYCOT.

Ive been waiting 32 days to be paid by bondjamesbond ( $0.57 ) with no refs I guess i'm never going to get paid, before I read this I had my doubts about being paid anyways


an-r-ky-uk

This is ridiculous! And they think this going to keep people from cheating! I only belong to one of their program. Why because of all the things I have read here on the forum! I have no referrals and I am not going to promote a site that I have heard very questionable things about!

they arent the sharpest tool in the shed huh.

They had to do something so it was legal to not pay members ..lol they rely on their income from other sites but harsh reality hit them when they get deleted for inactivity ..

They pay but only when they wanna.

Their emailpayall program paid me . I was waiting to get paid and then to quit after payment and I did . I just stayed active enough to keep them from deleting me while I waited , but I have been disenchanted with their programs for a good while .

I have a good dl in spidermanemails and will just stay active enough to stay in the proggy and use those funds for ads . As soon as my dl dies off ( and I believe it will ) I'll take whats owed me and quit there too .

Since reading so many bad reviews about selective payouts , it's possible that they paid me knowing I am a program owner and can reach many ppl with a less than flattering report on other programs . Of course I'm not sure that was their reason for paying me , but it's reasonable to think so since so many aren't getting paid .

WHAT A CROCK!!!!!

I can't believe this! How am I supposed to get an active refferal? My only relative that does GPTR reffered me, and I don't have money to spend on advertising!!!

I'm in this industry to make money, not spend it!!!

Is this legal? Don't they have to give you 30 days notice or something?

I wish they'd pay out their members before they change this (whether you've reached min. payout or not) so I could quit without losing my hard earned money when I quit.

Oh well! I guess I should have seen something coming! With all the complaints about them, it was only a matter of time before they did something to p*** off their members.

Even if you do get an active referral the next thing they will do is change the terms to you maynot cash out till your referral has reached payout...then they would have to have a referral also. I quit the dragon team a few months ago...never did get my MONEY from bond, but they can keep it. The way I see it is they have no members regardless of what they say the member count is. Sorry you had to go through this.

Grrrr....Initializing...Debugging.... Scams detected....Identify in progress....Identify succesfull.....This is The Dragon Team...
no surprise
LOL
Well i have another problem. When i'm trying to access their sites to close my accounts i see this big INSCRIPTION:
"Your current IP or host is not allowed to access this site!"
I can't close my accounts!!!!!
What should I do with this????
And the send me emails from their programs!!!
GRRRRRRRRR

this is so disgusting

I've any referrals at Dragon Team programs and don't intend to grab some just for DT benefit...
My mailbox is full of emails from Dragon Team - unreaded... till I delete it!
We should begin consider a massive go out

Hey people what is the websites for the government. We could report them for Internet fraud since a lots of people are complaining this websites. I think we should report them on e-bay and government of the United States. I wish all dragon team websites will be shut down.

Don't they realize that this will actually increase the cheating?
People will start signing up under themselves just to have an active referral in a desperate attempt to get paid for the work they have already done.

These guys are some of the dumbest I have seen in quite some time!

It is a disgrace, and it is theft. DT are thieves and, to my experience of some sites, liars (Bond) when it comes to payout.

Dragone Team are theives - they have stolen your hard earned money. I will never be prommoting them, ever.

With my retarded luck, if I promoted the site the first person that would sign up would be a cheater!!

Nyuck nyuck nyuck.


~ Ambrie ~

well im only in 2 of the dragone team,, bond and emailpaysu

i'll aslo quit

cya losers

This is a load of crap!

I have you beat. I have been waiting 2 months. lol

I was a member of bondjamesbond, emailpayall, and getpaidbymail. I received one payment of $1 several month ago from bondjamesbond.net. Since that payment, all cashout requests have been ignored on all three programs, and it's been over 2 months on bondjamesbond. I was gonna trying to just hang on do the least I had to do to stay active, then cancel when I finally got my payment, but forget it! I cancelled all three this morning when I found out about the referral requirement.

Dragon team is full of ######.
never paid,been waiting and requested 4 payouts during 3 months period.
Either egold or PyaPal ,never been paid and if the first time they bought time
by sending some line to confirm they have "passed" request to adming,
they didn't bother doing so later on.
They don't care about their members,i have cancelled all my accounts with them
and they can shove the earnings up their ######.
Bunch of liars and scammers using us for their own needs,they blong in the trash
and if you have nothing better to do in your life stick to those ######s.

I think I should quit their programmes too.

I am quit their programs.

I think if anyone without referral quit the program, their upline will quit soon.

So, why not we all quit the programs.

I don't think they join programs to click on emails and make money. As far as I know they sell their accounts from the ptr's that they join to make money. Always wondered how they were allowed and noone else is.

I'm not a wm and I have been paid by 3 out of the 4 sites I am a member of.

Get paid by email being the one I haven't got paid for.

I don't know how many members they have but I usually do pretty well when promoting at Bond James Bond. Over 3000 clicks and usually about 10-20 referrals.

Get paid by email, only get about 600-700 clicks there and only a couple referrals.

Although I think their prices for ads are a little ridiculous.

$42+ for 1/4 cent to all or something like that.

I am quit from they program, stup..

well thats them gone, now i just goota unsub from EPU's advertisers news letters and no more junk form this party of clowns!

This program could be even worst than Spedia and Nitroclicks. All Dragon Teams will go down the worst Get pay to read Email in the history book. I already cancel two dragon teams. I will cancel my bondjamesbond.net account later this afternoon. This Program need to report for Internet Fraud and also contact e-bay and paypal.

If you are e-bay member Please post negative comment in their auction.

You cannot just post a negative comment about them on ebay because you feel like it. That's called slander if you don't have the proof to back it up.

[QUOTE]This program could be even worst than Spedia and Nitroclicks. All Dragon Teams will go down the worst Get pay to read Email in the history book. I already cancel two dragon teams. I will cancel my bondjamesbond.net account later this afternoon. This Program need to report for Internet Fraud and also contact e-bay and paypal.

If you are e-bay member Please post negative comment in their auction.


Yes You have a lot of Proof. All you have to do post The Thread of Get paid Forum. I know they are a lot of people make a huge complait. All you have to post this link in there and other thread links.

And Ebay take a look at it they will see a lot of complait are complaing. Plus People bid their auction also get rif off since they are not paying all the members.

As far as I know in order to post feedback you have to be involved in a transaction with them, aka buy stuff.

[QUOTE] This program could be even worst than Spedia and Nitroclicks. All Dragon Teams will go down the worst Get pay to read Email in the history book. I already cancel two dragon teams. I will cancel my bondjamesbond.net account later this afternoon. This Program need to report for Internet Fraud and also contact e-bay and paypal.

If you are e-bay member Please post negative comment in their auction.


Yes You have a lot of Proof. All you have to do post The Thread of Get paid Forum. I know they are a lot of people make a huge complait. All you have to post this link in there and other thread links.

You could always email ebay support staff.

They are a lot of people are victim of this program is a scam. I see a lot of people are bidding their auction then they pay all the member. I saw a lot of auction selling referrals. Plus your referrals earning does not count your overall earning. Plus they don't pay at all.

This program need to be stop all dragon teams. It way out of control. Im sick tired hearing Dragon Teams on complait section.

where to delete the spidermanemails account i can't find it ,

Okay here is the url to report FRAUD this man investigates along with other investigators wrongful businesses and persons on the internet.....Clickity Cash and 1 Heluva are just a few under investigations now.

http://www.fraudsandscams.com

You can check out where their spotlight is right now, might give a headsup to you all for now.....

http://www.fraudsandscams.com/spotlight.htm

[quote=davidbugs,Jun 4 2003, 12:00 AM][QUOTE] This program could be even worst than Spedia and Nitroclicks. All Dragon Teams will go down the worst Get pay to read Email in the history book. I already cancel two dragon teams. I will cancel my bondjamesbond.net account later this afternoon. This Program need to report for Internet Fraud and also contact e-bay and paypal.

If you are e-bay member Please post negative comment in their auction.


Yes You have a lot of Proof. All you have to do post The Thread of Get paid Forum. I know they are a lot of people make a huge complait. All you have to post this link in there and other thread links.

You could always email ebay support staff.

They are a lot of people are victim of this program is a scam. I see a lot of people are bidding their auction then they pay all the member. I saw a lot of auction selling referrals. Plus your referrals earning does not count your overall earning. Plus they don't pay at all.

This program need to be stop all dragon teams. It way out of control. Im sick tired hearing Dragon Teams on complait section.[/quote]
i have an ebay account where to post the comment?thanks

AS I stated in a prev post I requested cashout at bond on the 1st of may, recived an email about 3 weeks laster saying I would be paid between the 1st and 15th of june.

Well they paid



my account balance was $0.57 and I was hopeing to get allof it but hey cant argue, mind you this sint going to stop me deleting as I have no refs


an-r-ky-uk

what the **** ,dragon team ****!!

i delete account ready and it came out this message
Sorry to see you go.
? Copyright 2003 SpiderMan Emails. Member of Dragone Team. All Rights Reserved

[QUOTE]i have an ebay account where to post the comment?thanks

Hey tephons If you still a member of any dragonteams. They will be a link their auction. You can post your complait. Tephons you could also email ebay technical support or you can chat with them about This program is a internet fraud.

If you have paypal you could also email them too.

Ok the people from GPF are unsubscribing. But they still have many members wchich aren't members of GPF. I think some of webmasters should make a litle "bad campain" for BJB ofcours if it is in thier interest. They have big potencial to do the same to other site. But meby you can show this thred then pepole will have no daubt about thise programs.
It's only sugestion.

your right i just quitted as well because of this.

not only do we have to have a ref to cashout (not that many ppl have ever reached payout anyway) but we don't even earn from that ref.

i always hated their sites but i do not like to quit programs but now i feel i have no choice.

by the way they are number 2 on the list of webmasters/mistresses i most hate. (evelyn turner 1st).

oh and whoever posted about contacting ebay end paypal 2 things:

A: paypal is owned by ebay

B: paypal don't care about complaints about their own site let alone anyone elses.

[QUOTE] oh and whoever posted about contacting ebay end paypal 2 things:

A: paypal is owned by ebay

B: paypal don't care about complaints about their own site let alone anyone elses.


You don't know unless you try to make a complait to paypal and ebay.

When I clicked on one of his paid2clicks i get this message ----

As a result of abuse, we cannot directly accept visitors referred by affiliate: spider.

Instead, please visit us at SearchBotz.com

Ha Ha - and he calls us cheats!

WOW! Isn't that against the rules...You are not aloud to put SearchBotz in the paid to click or use as an incentive, I hope the owner reads this and deletes there account for cheating.

Remember what goes around comes around and i am sure they will get what they deserve.

I see those on different programs I do sometimes. Couple different search engines have seem to cancelled some accounts.

But how do you know if it's the account of the program owner, or just a regular advertiser?

~ Ambrie ~

Me too

I have no referals at bondjamesbond and spideman
(I only do two of them)
And i requested payout monthes ago but no reply.
I think I wouldn't get paid by them any more



No one would join such a programe.
Where can i get a referal?
Maybe I should refer myself?

really a bad news

the best is to delete myself without been paid?

if they are redirecting, it's there account, thats why there are redirecting cause they are not allowed to put that in there paid to click, so they tried to figure a way around it.

See what it reads.

As a result of abuse, we cannot directly accept visitors referred by affiliate: spider.

Instead, please visit us at SearchBotz.com

[quote=davidbugs,Jun 3 2003, 11:03 PM][QUOTE]This program could be even worst than Spedia and Nitroclicks. All Dragon Teams will go down the worst Get pay to read Email in the history book. I already cancel two dragon teams. I will cancel my bondjamesbond.net account later this afternoon. This Program need to report for Internet Fraud and also contact e-bay and paypal.

If you are e-bay member Please post negative comment in their auction.


Yes You have a lot of Proof. All you have to do post The Thread of Get paid Forum. I know they are a lot of people make a huge complait. All you have to post this link in there and other thread links.

And Ebay take a look at it they will see a lot of complait are complaing. Plus People bid their auction also get rif off since they are not paying all the members.[/quote]
Will you for heaven sakes think before opening your mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can only make valid complaints at e-bay concerning e-bay auction transaction with them.

What in the heck is wrong with you?