Well I am geting real ###### off by this.... the admin is ignoring my e-mails...and has deleted my account...so far I have lost all my belife that any one of this read e-mails places are going to pay...this is my 6th one who is shuting me off when I have a balance and I have chose to subscribe/buy special membership... is not only a SCAM is a reap offf....and thievery...

As the admin took my money and deleted my account.... 6 e-mails to him and he is not replaying to any one....if this is what he wants I will have to post negative every where on the net I have the ocasion..... maybe negative advertising will do what I cannot do the reasonable way with this ashole....

Sorry to say this but I an realy angry...I think a lot of admins runing this read e-mail sites are fooling every one...and pocket the money....if some admin cannot pay...or his site is not profitable enough ....just shut the darn thing down and stop waisting the bandwith....

Raising the minimum payout is some other way off f...ing us up....with out warning....I will make a personal crusade out of this...and I will start puting every one who is screwing people up...out of business...mark my words....I am more then furious.... and I am fedup with scam bags....unscrupolous admins....no one who is joining any one of this sites is rich...and is just a way to make some extra income.... I am going to do it.... I have hard time...is time to give it back.

All Your Subbmiters = SCAM
Rich Mails = SCAM
Treasure Mail = SCAM
E-Mail Pays You = SCAM
TopDollars = SCAM
PaidBizOpMail = SCAM
MikePaid4Emails = SCAM
and more.....

They deleted me before.. But it was because I didnt check my email for about 6 or 7 days.. and well i was inactive so I got deleted..

Not sure now.. The new terms say 1 link at least in 30 days.. but it might still be a week.

Maybe thats why they deleted you?

Raven I agree with what are you saying...but I have received links from them until the 26th of May...and the links keep giving me an error...so in the mean time I tought that was a problem with the site with all the changes over and so one...but every day was the same thing...until I conntact the admin...unfortunatly he does not give a dam about any one of the users....or members....is not correct to ignore the e-mails...and not responding...if he has some strange explanation for it...I will not be posting here...but he is ignoring me and my e-mails...so there it is...have to do the nasty thing to him......beside...he took my money..also...and that makes him a thief....

All Your Subbmiters = NOT A SCAM
Rich Mails = 100% SCAM
Treasure Mail = DON`T KNOW
E-Mail Pays You = VERY LITTLE EMAILS BUT ...??
TopDollars = HAVE NO CLUE
PaidBizOpMail = SCAM FOR SURE !!!
MikePaid4Emails = NOT A SCAM, PAID ME AND 100S OF OTHERS!!
YOU PROBABLY DIDN`T DO PTC

Mikespaid4mail and AYS is suerly not scam

as I think...It seems that you don't remain active status

AYS is NOT a SCAM!!! Look, their term say about not accapting any members from Poland etc. I AM FROM Poland, and when I cannot retrieve my password (problems with logging), i emailed Linder and get it very soon Besides, i am executive member, so... I don`t know, but the webmaster is responding to emails. Maybe your email is bouncing?

All thanks guys for all of your input... but when some PTR or PTC acts this way is scam to me.... MikePaid4Emails was sending e-mails to me related to other sites... have clicked on over 500 e-mails and my balance was 6 cents... go figure..ok.. and do not tell me that i was not active.... AYS has taken my money for executive membership and I have also a balance for over 10 dollars with him all gone now.. when an admin change the rules in response to some hacker attack and punishes his members he is a SCAMER ......

On the other hand... he has agree to his own terms when he took my membership money.... and he cannot change them in mid air... 50 dollars payout... is a scam.. as for that will take about a year to achieve it... from January 1st to May 1st a total of less then 20 dollars of paid e-mails... you do the math...

I do not mean to ofend you guys but I am sorry.. a honest admin will refund the money... pay out outstanding balances and start from scratch... otherwise he is a scammer....

For as many emails as AYS is sending it won't take long to reach $50.00. If it will take you a year than maybe you aren' active???? Just a question??

I am sorry though that the webmaster has not responded!

ays--------haven't reached payout so not sure but hate when wm up and change their terms!!

rich mails-------was never a member--stay away from high payouts

treasure mail----been paid twice so they haven't scammed me

e-mail pays u--------too few emails to reach payout-----take you 10 years to reach payout------I quit long ago

top dollars-----gave out too much money at first, now those of us without downlines have to wait forever to get paid but I wouldn't call it a scam

paid biz op------was never a member------but many say it is a scam

mikes---------another payout way too high for my liking-----but have heard of a few people getting paid from there



That's my 2 cents on these programs!!

do not know if ays will pay, they got into trouble, raised payout: red flag.

But a little more critical we all can be: not active for a week, lost all earnings, and that is then ok with some!!!. mdG.

When you have earned some money, you should get it eventually. Not an almighty site owner deleting you because of ... what (6 days not active? scammers in your downline?...being polish, indian, chineese?...not searching but clicking a link that says "click here to get paid"?....

This is really weird...I don't understand how you could possibly only have 6 cents from clicking over 500 e.mails, even if some of them were unpaid.
I'm not accusing you of cheating, as I don't know the facts, but something is REALLY strange there

Is very simple, he send out all e-mails from his other dozwen or so programs...and he gives mainly points to pay for advertising on his site, also for all of you...who stil did not figure it out...most of payouts are done for people who are in business of building the down lines...as the web masters rewards them and screw the litle guy for clicking the links....

Trteasure mail has deleted my acount also in the last week...for no reason and I have a gold membership with them also....

I am not on business of recruiting people...but if you are an active clicker you get deleted eventualy....because your payout gets to close.... is a common practice... to have this done by the owners in the PTR and PTC business...

As for me not being an active user is incorect...as this is my only source of income...and I am 24 hours a day at home being disable and not being able to work....

I am from USA and they have very strict rules in this country for admins... like the AYS and MikePaid4Emails... actualy Mike when I ask him about my balance he told me to go and f my self...and actualy asl me to go and delete my account...which I could not do as hes links on the site were not working... if you look at the structure of his website... you cannot go any where to fast...

They are SCAMS... according to me...and if you guys pay attention you will find that out... AYS webmaster has no reason to take it out on users...as his site was screwed up by some one else... he is sour loosser and an ###### acording to my standards....

Good luck to you to achieve the payout on 50 dollars mark.....

now that's weird....MY points have been converted to cash every month I've had points!!

Dunno bout that

the $50 payout won't be that hard to reach, since I know I made $8 just since the site came back online. I have one referral, and have only made $0.74 from them...so I'm earning pretty fast. I also redeemed $5 for banners and the banner was up and running in less than 24 hours.

As to the other programs, I don't know...topdollaremails has had some problems, but I've redeemed a couple of times for ads and it's been very quick. I'm not a member at the other sites, so I couldn't give an opinion anyway.

It's not worth it to get so po'd about this stuff. If you fool around, expect to get dumped. If you're honest, it's all good and you will get somewhere, even if it does take a while.

I'm very sure AYS isn't a scam! I've been paid a total of $22 by this program before they changed scripts.

And as for the height of the payout, with my 52 direct and 14 2nd level referrals I have already reached payout again. And I'm definatley not a big advertiser, this program just advertises itself!

And then a buncha people got that really bizarre e-mail today. Anyone thinkin' what I'm thinkin'?

Yep

AYS is not a scam at all, i have reached payout a few times on this one, once with no downline, twice with 5 in my downline.

Never had trouble. Maby had to wait a bit longer than they initially planned. In the end All is good.

As to the email that was sent....It was not from AYS at all.

You can tell because the email address is not correct as well as many blaring points in the email

And YES, I think the same thing Scamper

I have already taken steps with the AYS ADMIN, Spamcop and their webhost.

There should be no damage from spam reports on this one

John

Now pay attention...have any one of you heard from AYS admin...regarding this e-mail.....

Let me tell you something...I am the one who started this tread...and I have send e-mails to him several times...it sims to me that in a hury to replay he send the e-mail to me and to all the people on his e-mail list....he has...basicaly all USA mail list... as there for some people got it and some did not.... and for you to asume that is just a prank...if you know something about the internet and e-mails servers...this will not work...

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Here is the e-mail and it sounded just like a perfect reply for my original posting in here... go read it.....

----- Original Message -----
From: <admin@allyousubmitters.com>
To: <JOIN>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:00 PM
Subject: PLEASE JOIN!


> JOIN AT MY SITE! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!
>
> IF YOU DON'T JOIN, I WILL KILL MYSELF!
>
> IF YOU WANT, JUST SEND ABUSE COMPLAINT TO SPAMCOP.NET AND TO MY HOST, BUT
> BEFORE THAT JOIN!
>
> JOIN PLEEEEEAAAAASE!
>
> http://www.allyousubmitters.com
>
>
> Linder Nadauld
> Owner
> All You Submitters.com
>
> P.S. I PROMISSE THAT I WILL NEVER PAY YOU, BECAUSE I'M CHEATER/SCAMMER!
>




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Registrant:
Linder Nadauld ays@imperialgraphics.net 310-679-0631
All You Submitters.com
4260 W El Segundo Blvd
Hawthorne,CA,US 90250


Domain Name:allyousubmitters.com
Record last updated at 2002-08-08 08:06:03
Record created on 2002/8/8
Record expired on 2003/8/8


Domain servers in listed order:
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His site is registered in California, as a mailing address...is Hosted in Florida....and his mailserver is in the Nederlands....now go figure.....

Keep reading all the treads and you will know what I mean....

About AYS.

I have earned more than 30 dollars, and have recently paid much money for advertising their site. Two days ago, I clicked all the links in the emails and in the afternoon I tried to log in and I couldn't. I asked to resend the password and got the message THAT MY ADDRESS WAS NOT IN THEIR DATA BASE!!!!!!
THIS IS TERRIBLE! I HAVE WRITTEN 4 OR 5 EMAILS TO THEM, ASKING THEM TO EXPLAIN WHY MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DELETED, I COPIED AND PASTED MY NEWEST 5 ADVERTS FOR WHICH I PAID A LOT OF MONEY..AND RECEIVED N O REPLY.

AND I CLICKED ON ALL THEIR LINKS!!!!

AND HAD A FEW REFERRALS, ALSO CLICKING EVERY DAY (I KNOW THEM)!!!!!!

WHAT TO DO?

I BELIEVED THEY WERE NOT LIERS!! BUT NOW I FEEL ANGRY AND WILL POST THEM ON THE BOYCOTT FORUM, IF THEY DO NOT EMAIL ME AND RETURN MY ACCOUNT BACK.


p.s.

i AM NOT FROM THOSE STATED COUNTRIES WHICH THEY DO NOT ACCEPT.

As of right now as I post this, here are my stats at AYS:

Funds Tansfer $17.6900 (from before the server changes, etc)

You have directly earned: $ 8.8500
You have earned from your Downline: $ 1.5415 (I have 2 direct refs and one second level)

Signup Bonus $10.0000

Your account balance after all transactions: $ 38.0815


This is one of my favorite programs (it's in my signature even!) and IMHO is definitely NOT a scam.

*Editing to add that I just reveived an additional 10 cents to my account from 2 PTC banners!*

Exactly what happen to me too...so you are not alone...

Well it has not happen to you yet...but just wait....before this site was just fine...butt after the shut down the admin has become an SOB....so beaware.....

Have a look at my advert..which was posted on the site when my account has already been deleted:

Paid To Click Ads
Ad Name Views Clicks CTR Expires Last viewed

PTS allyousubmitters **50 left** 3,232 636 212.000 to 1 ... 06/06/2003 12:24
Program : Allyousubmitters.com:

The programs that sends MANY EMAILS WITH 5 CENT LINKS EVERY DAY!!!!!

Even without referrals you can reach the payout fast!!!!

Members

? FREE Membership

? Executive Memberships Available.

? Get Paid for Reading Your eMail

? Refer Others and Get Paid

? $10.00 Sign-up Bonus

? $50.00 Dollar Payout!

? Most International Members are Welcome except for the countries noted above.

? Receive eMail on the best products

? Receive eMail on the best opportunities

? 6 Ref levels of commission under you

PLEASE, sign up using my url and I will never forget you: )

Thanks everyone who signs up.




Signup Here And get 25 cent Bonus
Copy and Paste confirmation email (after deleting your password) FORWARD confirmation email MAIL HERE



Signups left: 50

http://www.allyousubmitters.com/pages/index.php?refid=



LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS REPRESENTING PEOPLE WHO HAD VIEWED AND CLICKED MY LINK!!!

ALL IN VAIN!!!!

I SENT THE SAME AD AND A FEW OTHERS, ALL NEW ONES, TO THE WEBMASTER..SINCE NOW, I HAVE RECEIVED

NO RESPONSE.

I WISH TO SCREAM AND CRY AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE IT IS NOT FAIR!!!!!

As I said before this are not isolated incidents and a patern is emerging from here.... A sistematic deleting of accounts...and no reply from admin....

ok ... maybe they really had server problems .... so I will wait before say about them that are CHEATERS.

I liked them very much, I clicked all the mails from them and almost all the PTC. When I was seeing mails from them I was very happy. SO now, I'm not so happy!

Maybe times will change and server problems will be fixed !

Hmmmmm....is AYS allowing us to PAY people to sign up again?

I know that on the old site, AYS said we were not allowed to PAY ANYONE to sign up under us. We were not allowed to offer any kind of financial incentive to get referrals. (like, join under me and get 50 cents kinda thing, ya know?)
If we got caught doing this, we would get deleted from the program.

The reason was, they don't want all those inactive people who just sign up to get the bonus from the person offering it, and then never click anything.

Does anyone know if this rule is still in effect?

I hope you are not using the same AYS user name here as your account my desapear over night.....

Another AYS victim....

I just realised that my account has been deleted by AYS about 4 days ago. No explanation given and i was a gold member. I was not having too many referral but i have USD25.00 in my account.

Sent an email to the webmaster but no reply at all.....if you are a webmaster of get paid to read program, then i think you should not advertise any paid email to AYS website in order to boycott SCAM program.

If you guys keep on advertising paid email to AYS then SCAM program keeps on ONLINE and ONLINE and ONLINE....and one day, this get paid industry program WILL DIE...same as happened to get paid to surf program couple years ago....,,program die without grave...

My post was in response to monia23 showing she paid people to sign up. She posted her ad above.

I didn't say a word about doing that myself......I don't pay people to sign up under me in any program.....I can't afford to.

Iwas simply reminding monia23 that AYS used to NOT let people do that......possibly that's why monia23 got deleted.

That's all. I am not worried about being deleted.

ays had del my acc to
after i'm request for use my earning to ads
i email but not responde
i'm gold member
why
why
why

Well sorry to hear that ...but wellcome to the club...we all have joined....

[QUOTE=ekelly,Jun 8 2003, 02:46 PM][QUOTE=ungure6689,Jun 7 2003, 11:36 PM][QUOTE=ekelly,Jun 8 2003, 08:00 AM]Hmmmmm....is AYS allowing us to PAY people to sign up again?

I know that on the old site, AYS said we were not allowed to PAY ANYONE to sign up under us. We were not allowed to offer any kind of financial incentive to get referrals. (like, join under me and get 50 cents kinda thing, ya know?)
If we got caught doing this, we would get deleted from the program.

The reason was, they don't want all those inactive people who just sign up to get the bonus from the person offering it, and then never click anything.

Does anyone know if this rule is still in effect?[/QUOTE]
I hope you are not using the same AYS user name here as your account my desapear over night.....[/QUOTE]
My post was in response to monia23 showing she paid people to sign up. She posted her ad above.

I didn't say a word about doing that myself......I don't pay people to sign up under me in any program.....I can't afford to.

Iwas simply reminding monia23 that AYS used to NOT let people do that......possibly that's why monia23 got deleted.

That's all. I am not worried about being deleted.




..............

Hi, monia here.

I copied-pasted the whole adverb for which I paid 22 dollars to
paid-emails.com program.

I have never offerred any bonus, I bought the advertising, and the bonus was offered by paid-emails.com program.


Still no reply from the webmistress (or webmaster, think it was a woman)

AND AGAIN, I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING SHE ASKED, UPDATED MY PROFILE WHEN SHE REQUESTED THAT, DID THE CLICKING, WAITED FOR THE TIMER, AND NEVER MISSED ANY LINK!!

AND EARNED A NICE SUM. AND, WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT, I REALLY LIKED THE PROGRAM AND KEPT ADVERTISING ONLY THEM.

I OFTEN SENT THEM THOSE ADVERTS I HAVE SAVED, BUT THAT IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM.

(


As soon as I find some time to collect everything I have left, I will put the site on boycott forum.

THIS GAME IS UNFAIR, SPOILED.

IF THE OWNER OF THE PROGRAM READS ALL OUR COMPLAINTS, HERE AND IN THE EMAILS, HE OR SHE, IF HONEST, SHOULD RESPOND.

HAVE THEY? WILL THEY?

I HAVE LOST MY HOPE ALREADY.

WHAT to do with those new adverts? To ask the webmasters to delete them?????????

I FEEL HUMILLIATED, ATTACKED, CHEATED.

AND, ABOVE ALL, ANGRY.

(This is not the first site where I lost my money and referrals.)

But there are webmasters like Criton, from GimmeMail.com, who after being attacked by a hacker, tried everything to restore our accounts, even gold membership and referrals. And Gypsy Dad gave a try to restore my referrals.
.

My exact toughts...it is unfair....as if you work for a company if they fire you they give you the pink slip and your last ernings before they get red of you....this guy is an american and we do have laws in this country....he is not protected by some long distance overseas place.