Hi folks,

To date I have only found one paid to read email program that offers all of the following and I am looking for more. I was wondering if you had to choose a PTR email program that fits ALL of the criteria below, which one would you tell me to look into?:

- consistant monthly payout
- no payment holdback
- no minimum monthly payout
- payout to e-gold
- email delivered to users email address
- no login required to read
- no quizes, no searches, no signups to get paid [in others words read to get paid only]
- minimum 5 cents paid per email
- no points email or other non-paying mail
- unlimited referral levels
- minimum 50% of level 1 referral's earnings, less % on lower levels
- affiiliate advertiser program, minimum 10% of ads purchased
- automated payments, no manual payment processing

I am very serious about this - if the program you're thinking of doesn't fit all of the above criteria, please do not recommend it to me. I won't be interested. It might be a great program but it won't fit what I am looking for, nor will it be of interest to my web site members.

I have been working one program now for about 6 months which has been very consistent in paying me without the "sorry I didn't get the time to process your payments", or "gee there's a script problem", or "we didn't get paid so you don't paid", or of course the dreaded "page not available" announcement, etc. What I'm looking for is a "I work - it pays" program.

With the one I'm involved in right now I've built a level 1 downline of 110 and a level 2 downline of 20 and I promote and advertise the site as often as I can.

In the past 3 years I have gone through a pile of programs. Why? Not for the reasons that you think. You see, all proceeds that I earn are donated to a writing resource website, so the revenue is not even for my own pocket. I'm just tired of wasting time on all the hype and listening to program masters sniping, yelling, blaming others and b####ing about their problems.

The concept of paid to read email is really very simple - I click, read and refer - they pay.
Finding a system like that is a whole other animal so I thought I would try this forum and see what you have to say.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks,
Rowdy Rhodes
Site Manager
Freelance Writing Organization - Int'l
Home To One Of The World's Largest Free Writing Resource Links Databases
http://www.fwointl.com

lol.. thats one hella program you're searching here..
i must say i've never seen a program that suits your creterias.

good luck searching though

Such program doesn't exist.

But Opt-in-Pays comes close - apart from the 5 cents per mail and unlimited referral limits, I think all criterias are ok.

except for the Egold part...if ya find it let ME know LOL

I don't think any would fit, maybe if you took off the 5 cent per email......

What program is it that you do now?

was wondering THAT myself

min 5ct and no min payout don't go together. That's like water and oil.

OK
Let's knock the 5 cents per email off.
I'm averaging the earnings I'm making off the existing PTR anyway and it all works out to about 5 cents/email. It was just easier to say it that way here, but I get the point about being paid hard 5 cents/email. Someone mentioned here that it sounds like Opt-In-Pays, which is the program we've been running. It's a points program, but when all is said and done it works out to around that.

With that said though, and assuming that everyone here already knows about Opt-In-Pays, what programs do you folks know about that fit that above criteria?

{As you can assume by my long winded question I am trying to find clones of Opt-In-Pays - it's the best program, bar none, that I have found to date.}

Thanks,
Rowdy Rhodes
Site Manager
Freelance Writing Organization - Int'l
Home To One Of The World's Largest Free Writing Resource Links Databases
http://www.fwointl.com

Linkburst is a program owned by Gilbys (Owner of Opt-In-Pays)

and it has just about every feature that Opt-in-Pays has, except for no paid emails, just TONS of links!

Hi

Thanks for the info. I'm familiar with LinkBurst.

Have you ever heard of AYS? What about their system?

I am personally not a member of AYS (member of 400+ other programs though).. but I have heard nothing but great things about it. Although they did ban a few countries, and they only pay by money order I believe.

The others are right, that's a tough criteria list. If you're narrowing it down to 5-cents an email right there you've eliminated about 98-99% of the programs.

2-opt pays 5-cents per email but they have a $10 minimum via check.
AllYouSubmitters also pays 5-cents per email and have a $10 signup bonus but a $50 minimum via money order.
HTMail pays between 12-24 cents per email depending on what type of account you select, personal or referring, and pays out at $10 via check but emails are few.

Good luck!

Opt-In pays is a great program. Although you need a lot of referrals to make a decent monthly earning.
Also I'm not sure about monthly anymore.

It is more than one month ago that I received my last payment.

In any case, while it is true that I always get paid in the end, and never to ask for it, there are certainly better programs than opt-in-pays, with regards to the earning potential.

Yes, I had posted about this somewhere else. I signed up with AYS two days ago, and noticed the only payment option was 'money order'. Is this correct?

I joined mainly because I read so many praises about them in this Forum. But I have not received even one paid email so far (it's only two days, but still, this would mean they do not send daily mails).

Naama,

You may wish to double check your account status. I joined AYS sometime yesterday and have recieved several emails (around 12) all worth $.05. Seems like a good program if it continues to sustain itself and make payouts.

They used to also have the E-Gold payment option but that has been removed. So it seems money order is the only way right now. It works the same way as a check except that it can't bounce. Just takes so long for the process not sure why they went this way

And as far as not receiving emails, you should check your email account or try another address because I received at least 5 today, including hristo7777's ad for Fantasy-Email

Hmmm that is strange. There is nothing wrong with my email address, as I received their sign-up confirmation email. I am also getting other mails.

The only reason could be that my mailwasher program put them onto my blacklist and I did not pay attention.

USdollars, could you do me a big favor and let me the email address they are sending their paid mails from? I can then check if they are on my blacklist (the list is far too long to long for any speficic email address without knowing it.) I have checked rewards@ ... (which is what many programs use), but this one was not on my blacklist.

Thank you so much

paidemail@allyousubmitters.com

my bill is in the mail

Bingo - it was right there on the blacklist.

Thanks so much USdollars. I'll be awaiting the bill.

Actually I joined EzWeblife under you the other day. And didn't regret it.

With AYS though I hear now from some other posts that people are wondering how they make money as their advertising rates are quite low and their memberbase relatively high PLUS they pay 5 cents per email

I have no idea how they can afford to send 5-cent emails at a cost to the advertiser of $10 either. Time will tell if they will pay again I guess.

Thanks for your support.

Speaking of AYS, I joined one week ago and here are my stats:

You have directly earned: $ 2.8500
You have earned from your Downline: $ 0.7955
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 13.6455

Downline Count
#1 3
#2 4
#3 1
#4 0
#5 0
#6 0
Total: 8

I sure hope they pay!

Haven't they just raised the minimum payout to $50?

Hi

Thanks for taking the time to write.
OK - So we have 2-opt, plus AYS.
{AYS I'm a member of - I'm also waiting for the changes to happen over there. They had a tough go of it and are re-building. My balance is around $30 - I'll shoot for the $50 and then see what happens - normally I never work to a $50 level to see if I get paid. It's too high, but I was already committed to them back when they were offering electronic payment and no minimum in the beginning. Then some a######s, according to admin, smashed them up and now they have very stringent rules - we'll see soon enough}

About 2-opt. They also have minimums - so the next question would be - do they pay? I'm always hesitant to get involved with minimums. Why? They are not logical - the advertisers do not get 30 days to pay the bill - why should I wait 30 days to get paid - is the way I think. I've bought ads from some of these systems so I know how the payment end goes - I've never gotten 30-60 day terms, which means the cash is there. If the systems are trying to minimize transaction fees, they should just pass them along to the members and have the fee deducted from the earnings so the system is self-sufficient. Anyway, I digress.

I'm assuming that you're a member of 2-opt?
If so, and you're backing them with your reputation, send me your link and I'll be happy to sign up under you for helping me out here and give them a try. I'll let you know how it turns out, if and when I ever hit the $10 minimum and they pay me.

Take care,
Rowdy Rhodes
Freelance Writing Organization - Int'l
Home To One Of The World's Largest Free Writing Resource Links Databases
http://www.fwointl.com

Well I can verify that 2-opt pays - paid twice once for $10.05 on 10/3/2001 and another for $10.00 on 12/3/2002 and I'm about halfway to third payment. I tried uploading a scanned check for you but couldn't get it to work.

They've been around since April 2001 and besides the 5? for every email, they also pay 10? for every referral and you get automatic entry into their monthly sweepstakes giveaways.

I wouldn't consider this a big earner but if you're specifically looking for 5? emails this one fits. You can find the full info on my site (link in signature).

My latest AYS stats, and I've only been a member for a week!!!

You have directly earned: $ 3.9000
You have earned from your Downline: $ 0.7955
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 14.6955

I'm going to be mighty disappointed if these people don't pay.

here's my earnings so far since they started back up...no ref's yet and have a ton of emails to catch up on (worked 11+ hours today) and btw, I clicked the link to speed up getting my $9.00+ transferred about 4-5 days ago...and it still isn't there yet....should I click it again? when is the $10 signup bonus supposed to show up? when my balance transfers? lost on THAT one lol. will check back later cul


You have directly earned: $ 1.8000
You have earned from your Downline: $ 0.0000
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 1.8000

Ummmm
Hi folks
I don't mean to appear rude or anything, and I'm sure the information about your daily activities is interesting to some, however, I'm just trying to find new PTR email systems in this post. Do they have some other place on this forum site that you could move this conversation to so that this stays on topic? The topic being that I'm looking for new programs that fit the following criteria:

- consistant monthly payout
- no payment holdback
- no minimum monthly payout
- payout to e-gold
- email delivered to users email address
- no login required to read
- no quizes, no searches, no signups to get paid [in others words read to get paid only]
- minimum 5 cents paid per email {flexible on this number}
- no non-paying mail {except admin system notices}
- unlimited referral levels
- minimum 50% of level 1 referral's earnings, less % on lower levels
- affiiliate advertiser program, minimum 10% of ads purchased
- automated payments, no manual payment processing

If you had to choose a program that fits the above, which program would you recommend?

Thanks,
Rowdy Rhodes
Freelance Writing Organization - Int'l
Home To One Of The World's Largest Free Writing Resource Links Databases
http://www.fwointl.com

Thanks us$!
Much appreciated.
While I'm typing this I'm stopping by your site to sign up.....

Nice system you have there. Very comprehensive.

OK - I'm all signed up and I'll follow through on the system confirmation.

Thanks again. Like I mentioned the money goes toward our free writing resource site and so even if it's an extra $10/month - every little bit helps to keep the system afloat for the writing community and if I can get a hundred or so into my downline then I'm sure it'll be worthwhile.

Take care,
Rowdy Rhodes
Freelance Writing Organization - Int'l
Home To One Of The World's Largest Free Writing Resource Links Databases
http://www.fwointl.com

Thanks for your support Rowdy much appreciated.