This is where I will be posting the reasons why a site's ads cannot be run here or special ways they have to be run.

Link Bucks

Page is a frame breaker and can only be advertised with a 0s timer. As such, cannot be advertised in the surf bar

Bonniemails

has Activex exploits on the PTP page so the PTP page cannot be run here

Cosplaymails

41 0 iframes so the PTP page cannot be advertised here

PaidCPM

6 0 iframes

Orangebizs

0 iframe on the PTP page

There is an orangebizs banner in the tier 1 & 2 section, script runner 8013.

Edited to add: 6621, 6661, 6914, 7026, 7044, 7779, 7781, 7784, 8340 and in the PTC section 8325.

7779 is et-mails, 7784 is vistaclicker, the others have been suspended pending replacement or purge by 27 Aug

I added a little thank you to one of your ads and thanks again for watching out for all of us.

Thank you for keeping us all safe from bad advertising sites!

Couldn't catch em all without attentive widdle bears.

Here's a couple more from email ads:

says ammfy but opens in orange:

http://tesasteamails.com/scripts/runner.ph...710310328086660



http://tesasteamails.com/scripts/runner.ph...807071449017654

Need the Subject for the top email so I can find it. Says orange in the email ad admin and is supposed to be paused. Only way to find who's clicking them still is to make them cheat links. That'll get the hoarders to stop playing by their own rules.

Bottom one goes to the index page which is OK

I am a little confused here. The top ad mentioned was in my inbox for today and the link is working. I did not get any 0iframe from it, but I do have a number of those in my blocksite. So it is not paused???

Here is more complete info for that ad:

genho's allmymoneyforyou 29p ptp to 20k

Revisit: http://www.orangebizs.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=ss959

http://tesasteamails.com/scripts/runner.ph...710310328086660

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I hope that working from whatever is in my onsite inbox even though it might be a couple of days old is not considered hoarding. If I get behind, I usually just start from the oldest and work through 1 full day's worth of ads. I did not think that clicking on emails in the onsite inbox could be hoarding since the older ones are automatically removed. Am I wrong on this?

Lydia

A lot of times, just take what I say and say, "Oh, yeah. OK, sure" and figure I'm out of my head again as was the case this time.

I found the ad you're referring to, labeled it properly and paused the ad. Thank you

I can see where it might have been a little tricky to find.

Kind of hard for me to know when you are thinking straight and when you're not. Guess that's the problem with the printed word. Anyhoo, it got me to clear out all the old mails from my inbox. All are within 24 hours again, at least until I miss my target schedule for working the inbox, which changes according to what life dishes up each day.

If you think you have it tough, try being on this end for a little while. For me, sanity is a distant relative a rarely see.

I do all my emails that are dated yesterday, on the rare occasions I do not finish them they get deleted. What I mean is if it is the 29th July today I only open the ones dated 28th July. I do this because the 29th July are still coming in as I do my emails. This way I get all the emails done without opening one I have already done today.

Hoarding emails is different. For example I get one for cash and keep that email and click on it every day but if the advertiser has asked for it to be halted for a few days they get mad when they find it is still getting clicks.

Though Site Policy forbids me from telling how hoarding is done, I can say that so long as the only place you click emails from is the Site Inbox and regardless of wheter or not you delete after read and clicked, there's no way anyone can rightfully be accused of hoarding emails as the system has provisions in place to prevent that from happening.

It's not the clicks within 48 hours of an ad being paused that is a problem, it's the way in which some do it who think they're above the rules. The last time someone was caught doing it, s/he forfeited a top upgraded membership just to get a dollar a month for a few months. While there are times that I look the other way when extenuating circumstances present themselves, there are other times when I will not. Members know when they are scamming and those are the ones who are unwelcome here whereas the ones who make an occasional fox paws, err, faux pas, are not knowingly breaking rules, are not a problem and have nothing to fear.

Ah, I see we are somehow related as sanity is also a distant relative of mine. We try to stay in touch via medication, but sometimes communication is completely cut off. When that happens, I am off to the world of Anunnaki, Nephilim, and Planet X. Lydia

and I go off to the realms of Oceananis, Teridia Anomaly or Braskin Plains

http://coolwavemail.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=

Inasmuch as Jutaky's checker won't produce results after a 5 minute wait, we're not going to take the chance with our members and coolwavemail's PTP link cannot be promoted here.

http://www.bonniemails.com/pages/ptp.php?refid= is showing no 0 iframes and ads are being resumed.

I just got a 0iframe on the bonniemails link in the contest ptc section. I am just not going to click on them anymore. It's obvious that this site cannot be trusted to use ethical advertising methods.

Just checked it again and no 0 iframes. Plenty of iframes but none are 0 by 0 pixels. Are you sure it's not scripts loading other sites? I see nothing when I click the link but have the HOSTS fix in place so it's pretty unlikely that I would see anything.

I don't know what a pixel is, nor do I understand the difference between an iframe and a 0iframe. Here's where I landed when I hit the bonniemails banner:

http://www3.aisleno7.com/default.aspx?cid=...00-000000000000

So, is that an iframe or a 0iframe?

I stuck the dang thing in blocksite so it won't load, problem is, those links change all the time. I guess I could just put bonniemails in my blocksite and it just won't let any crap in from them.

Lydia

No, I think thats opened by a script, just not sure which. Any time I open a page and it starts loading those things, I close the page as those pages or whatevers keep executing and I never get to the page I wanted.

still confused here. Is the one I got an iframe or a 0iframe?

Don't think so

Main Entry: pix·el
Pronunciation: \ˈpik-səl, -ˌsel\
Function: noun
Etymology: pix + element
Date: 1969
1 : any of the small discrete elements that together constitute an image (as on a television or computer screen)
2 : any of the detecting elements of a charge-coupled device used as an optical sensor

IOW, a 0 iframe ad is 0 by 0 pixels or has no size but still loads so the page owner gets paid for the promoters showing the page all over the net. Unfortunately, the original advertiser who is paying for views is getting ripped off which is why no self respecting PO will run ads for any page that uses them. Granted, it's no skin off our noses but it's the right thing to do to thwart evildoers throughout the galaxy, err, industry.

I hope you don't mind me butting in here..

A zero iframe is kind of a misnomer in some ways as it doesn't have to be 0 pixels by 0 pixels to be a bad or cheating iframe. An invisible iframe or an inappropriate iframe is probably a better way to think of it.

An iframe that is 0 x 0 pixels is invisible. But if you make it 100 x 0 it's still going to be invisible. The ones on Bonniemails are in a banner iframe and are 1 pixel by 1 pixel, which is still too small to see what is inside the iframe - that's only the size of a full stop/period on a page, you can't see a full website stuck in an iframe that size! It's also a problem if the iframe is larger, say banner sized and it's loading full sized webpages in there (this would be the inappropriate iframe rather than the invisible iframe).

On bonniemails PTP there is a banner sized iframe


And that contains the invisible iframes that are set at 1 pixel by 1 pixel



The first one is an ebay page. It's cheating to put an ebay page inside an invisible iframe.

I left that loading for some time and after a few minutes something has actually started doing autosearches for me.

The more 0 iframes or invisible or inappropriate iframes there are on a webpage, the harder it is for a PO who is sending the ad to check it for viruses and autosearches.

Additionally the more webpages you stick in iframes on a webpage, the heavier it will be to load up on my PC, so my PC gets locked up constantly from so many webpages trying to load at one time.

Then another problem with 0 iframes is that they can be used to hide viruses.

Also a lot of the inappropriate iframes, mostly coming from the 3rd party networks, loading webpages in banner sized iframes have a tendency to break out of the frames, because the sites they are loading in the frame don't want people cheating to get clicks to their sites that they have to pay for as if they were genuine clicks, so they break frames and then what happens? Does the member promoting the PTP get credit? What about the person who paid for the spot in one of the rotators on the page, once that page breaks, no one will be able to see their website and if you hit the back button you'll be shown a different page in the rotator.

As I've been typing, the bonniemails has had something break the frame on that coincidentally and I'm now viewing a webpage with 4 webpages stuck in iframes.

Anyway the main thing is it's not just 0 x 0 pixel iframes that are the problem. The main thing is does the iframe size fit what is inside it, can you see everything clearly, and is it cheating or is it carrying a virus. Those are the things most of the decent POs (like Ron) are trying to avoid having on their sites or sending in ads on their sites.

wagdoll you are welcome to butt in anytime when you have such a helpful post. Many thanks for the info.

Yes, thanks for your input. It is greatly appreciated

BTW, Bonniemails is back on the banned list.

Fast-Dollar.info

They claim to pay 1000% in 24 hours. I made a test spend and they did not live up to their end of the bargain. Proof available upon request.

http://www.starptp.com/ptp.php?usr=

Zeroiframes detected: 60
Check took 172.71 seconds

I see they are back in the tier 1 & 2 section. Have they cleaned up their act? Haven't clicked them, not sure if I want to.. Lydia

Yes, I checked the link this morning and there were no zeroiframes on it so I resumed the ads.

Due to their site closing we will take no more ads for edayz.net but will continue running ads in the system until the end of the month when their ptp page is taken down. Any/All advertisers with ads for edayz.net are encouraged to replace the links as soon as you can with an alternate site's link.

BonnieMailsPTP has never been clean.

Now it contains this iframe: mfhelper.com/ad.php

which runs this java script: mfhelper.com/stat.js

which opens these invisible 1x1=pixel iframes:

Thanks for the info.

Anyone know of any problems with wheatmails' ptp page? I have an advertiser who wants to buy 10 ads for them.

there are not a list of banned sites ?

I want to advertise and I was send here to see banned sites, I read all the posts and I still don´t know which sites are banned.
Can anybody help me, please?

There are here a post about click ADS sent on the day before. I don´t know when the ADS are sent, my time (hour) is not the same of the time of the site and my inbox refer alwase may time (hour and day).



carmomaria

Which site(s) were you thinking of advertising here?

add vistaclicker.com/pages/ptp.php to the list due to it having an Active x exploit on it.

Effective immediately, we will no longer allow advertisers to waste their money advertising scam (unsustainable ad prices or refusal to honor their agreements) sites at TTM. Any currently running ads will be stopped and no further ads will be taken for those sites until the POs from those sites decide to stop stealing from the members by refusing to pay their members after said members reach the minimum amount to request payment.

Bux.to never pays their members and i personally have been waiting 21 months.

xray-cash does not answer forum posts, does not answer email queries, refuses to pay its members and ptp page promoters for me personally for close to a year.

If the 2 above named sites want to delete my mebership because of this policy change

By the time you read this, the ads will be paused and the unused clicks were refunded back to the advertisers' accounts.

Thought you might want to know, I found an ad for xray-cash in the Tier 1 & 2 ptc section:

http://tesasteamails.com/scripts/runner.php?PA=8138

The text just says paidtopromote, so I can see where it was easy to miss. Lydia

Not no more, thank you for bringing this to my attention.

np Glad to see them off the site. :-)

Ron, please check again. It's still there.

http://tesasteamails.com/scripts/runner.php?PA=8138

???

Only thing I can think of is that someone must have done a restore at the server level which restored all that I'd deleted. I'm not doing any chemicals so my memory of deleting it the 1st time must be accurate and nothing else makes sense.

antmails.com

splash page breaks frames

indax.php (spelling intentional) popups get past strict computer security and crashes computer

Forgot what i was doing while checking out a new ptp page.

http://chipsmail.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=

Zeroiframes detected: 51
Check took 342.54 seconds

What's a fair price to keep you on the site for 342s and have 51 0 iframes on it possibly exploiting advertisers? Then again, i know most of you and there's none who'd trade a paltry sum of cash for their honor just to exploit the advertisers so chipsmail ptp page is banned.