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ironhazee
hi i am from turkey but all this subject about ptp is very complex pls answer all my questions.


1) in donkey mails it pays 0,75 to 1000 credit.i use sas.
sas avarge cpm 455credit to donkey. i mean if i buy 1000hits i can earn ~500 donkeycredit than if i bought 2000sas hit i can eant 1000donkey credit.but there is a problem i will buy 2000sas hit to 50cent and i sell 1000creditdonkey to 75cent.25cent profit but not guarantee. for example i will accept 20cent profit if i want 100 $ profit tahen i must buy 500.000 sas hit.but in how much time i can ean this money for example i ask you in a full day how much hit you get from sas??? and we earn low from ptp but hits low and this is problem lttle money in a long time.how much hit you get from sas??? in a day?
for example in sas 50,000 credits = $10.95 Paypal or $10.63 Egold it is it equals 25,000 donkeycredit. 25,000/1000=25*0,75=18,75$ or 17 i will buy ~11 a earn 17-18 i mean 6-7 dolar profit but 50,000 hits when finishes?



2)sas is the cheapest site i think for advertise and its credits good.but all other sites advertises very high and hits very low it is very comic.how can i earn money with spending money.give me buying credits credits but it must me good cpm and its hits must be good.in PTP Approved Sites high cpm high site's hit low and advertices high.so give me good sites

3)i didnt enter donkeymails casout page is there any problen in donkeymail?

4)in sas time is importans. time is pm/am EST when should i use usa/uk/ca and when shold i use all country?

5)in SAS this is very comic i dont unterstand this pls reply

1000hit selling 25cent.
but we can ean (surf 2 pages, receive 1 credits back)
site buys 8adcredit = $0,001 but 8adcredit equals 16 page view so site buys 1page view $0,001/16=$0,0000625
we look 2000page viiews = 1000credits = $0,0000625 *2000=$0,125 (12,5cent) so why people surfs? idont understands this site gives $0,125 (12,5cent) to 2000site surf this is very comic.all people can buy credits and prompting.but why people use surfing?

and a person can max surfing 10sec advertises 6ads in a min.360ads in a hour in all days 360*24=8640 equals ~55cent
so no body i think want to surs and wan to buy credit but in 10days sas valid hits 222,383 how can be possible.


thansk for replies



moonlighting
well, there're 2 kinds of surf in SAS, one is PTP surf and the other is comman (including ToNT, match game and conventional). your site can be enrolled in both kinds of surf, and the amount of PTP hits you receive depends on how many sites you surf, i.e. the rank of you in the leader board. and the amount of common hits do not depend on how many pages you surf. another factor that affects how many hits your link gets is whether you target to certain countries. if you only target to US/UK/CA then you'll receive much less hits.

I get about 50 hits everyday (targeted to tie1 and some tie2 countries), if I can surf about 50-60 PTP sites. if i dont surf, i get only about 20-30 hits.

about selling Ad credits, I guess you're totally lost there. No one will sell Ad credits for cash, because the credits worth much more if he use them to promote PTP links. So your question is just meaningless.

about your question 4), you are wrong. time is meaningless, it doesn't matter whether you target to certain countries or not. as I said above, if you want more hits, don't target. if you want to make max output from your credits, then target to Tie1 country. just so simple.

QUOTE (ironhazee @ Mar 10 2008, 12:39 PM) *
hi i am from turkey but all this subject about ptp is very complex pls answer all my questions.


1) in donkey mails it pays 0,75 to 1000 credit.i use sas.
sas avarge cpm 455credit to donkey. i mean if i buy 1000hits i can earn ~500 donkeycredit than if i bought 2000sas hit i can eant 1000donkey credit.but there is a problem i will buy 2000sas hit to 50cent and i sell 1000creditdonkey to 75cent.25cent profit but not guarantee. for example i will accept 20cent profit if i want 100 $ profit tahen i must buy 500.000 sas hit.but in how much time i can ean this money for example i ask you in a full day how much hit you get from sas??? and we earn low from ptp but hits low and this is problem lttle money in a long time.how much hit you get from sas??? in a day?
for example in sas 50,000 credits = $10.95 Paypal or $10.63 Egold it is it equals 25,000 donkeycredit. 25,000/1000=25*0,75=18,75$ or 17 i will buy ~11 a earn 17-18 i mean 6-7 dolar profit but 50,000 hits when finishes?



2)sas is the cheapest site i think for advertise and its credits good.but all other sites advertises very high and hits very low it is very comic.how can i earn money with spending money.give me buying credits credits but it must me good cpm and its hits must be good.in PTP Approved Sites high cpm high site's hit low and advertices high.so give me good sites

3)i didnt enter donkeymails casout page is there any problen in donkeymail?

4)in sas time is importans. time is pm/am EST when should i use usa/uk/ca and when shold i use all country?

5)in SAS this is very comic i dont unterstand this pls reply

1000hit selling 25cent.
but we can ean (surf 2 pages, receive 1 credits back)
site buys 8adcredit = $0,001 but 8adcredit equals 16 page view so site buys 1page view $0,001/16=$0,0000625
we look 2000page viiews = 1000credits = $0,0000625 *2000=$0,125 (12,5cent) so why people surfs? idont understands this site gives $0,125 (12,5cent) to 2000site surf this is very comic.all people can buy credits and prompting.but why people use surfing?

and a person can max surfing 10sec advertises 6ads in a min.360ads in a hour in all days 360*24=8640 equals ~55cent
so no body i think want to surs and wan to buy credit but in 10days sas valid hits 222,383 how can be possible.


thansk for replies
tulp
QUOTE (ironhazee @ Mar 10 2008, 05:39 AM) *
hi i am from turkey but all this subject about ptp is very complex pls answer all my questions.


1) in donkey mails it pays 0,75 to 1000 credit.i use sas.
sas avarge cpm 455credit to donkey. i mean if i buy 1000hits i can earn ~500 donkeycredit than if i bought 2000sas hit i can eant 1000donkey credit.but there is a problem i will buy 2000sas hit to 50cent and i sell 1000creditdonkey to 75cent.25cent profit but not guarantee. for example i will accept 20cent profit if i want 100 $ profit tahen i must buy 500.000 sas hit.but in how much time i can ean this money for example i ask you in a full day how much hit you get from sas??? and we earn low from ptp but hits low and this is problem lttle money in a long time.how much hit you get from sas??? in a day?
for example in sas 50,000 credits = $10.95 Paypal or $10.63 Egold it is it equals 25,000 donkeycredit. 25,000/1000=25*0,75=18,75$ or 17 i will buy ~11 a earn 17-18 i mean 6-7 dolar profit but 50,000 hits when finishes?



2)sas is the cheapest site i think for advertise and its credits good.but all other sites advertises very high and hits very low it is very comic.how can i earn money with spending money.give me buying credits credits but it must me good cpm and its hits must be good.in PTP Approved Sites high cpm high site's hit low and advertices high.so give me good sites

3)i didnt enter donkeymails casout page is there any problen in donkeymail?

4)in sas time is importans. time is pm/am EST when should i use usa/uk/ca and when shold i use all country?

5)in SAS this is very comic i dont unterstand this pls reply

1000hit selling 25cent.
but we can ean (surf 2 pages, receive 1 credits back)
site buys 8adcredit = $0,001 but 8adcredit equals 16 page view so site buys 1page view $0,001/16=$0,0000625
we look 2000page viiews = 1000credits = $0,0000625 *2000=$0,125 (12,5cent) so why people surfs? idont understands this site gives $0,125 (12,5cent) to 2000site surf this is very comic.all people can buy credits and prompting.but why people use surfing?

and a person can max surfing 10sec advertises 6ads in a min.360ads in a hour in all days 360*24=8640 equals ~55cent
so no body i think want to surs and wan to buy credit but in 10days sas valid hits 222,383 how can be possible.


thansk for replies



You really have a lot of questions here and you do sound confused with this whole PTP earning....

People are surfing PTP at SAS in order to get an active ranking, this means that their own PTP sites will be seen too ... I don't think there will be many people that wants to sell their advertising credits to SAS as they will prefer to use it to promote their PTP and other sites.

For Donkey I do promote tier 1/2 countries and get approx. 60/70 credits a day when I am active ... so there is no use to buy too many credits and spend a lot of money as you have to wait a long time before it is paying back....
When you want to learn about the results of advertising a page for cheap prices ... you better read this section: ad results discussion. But when you buy advertising for PTP programs with tiers like donkey ... you do have to take care to buy from a program that have high tier members else you lose money.

There are also programs that have a NoTier PTP ... those pay less per 1000 but for all tiers and then you can calculate your risks better.... Personnally I buy very cheap advertising for my Affiliate pages (cheap rotator ads) and for two no tier programs that are allowed in rotators... you can find nice cheap advertise offers here: advertising offers

I don't understand why you think time is important at SAS? you put a number of credits allocated to your link and you put the countries you want visits from... the program will do the rest ... you only advertise all countries when you have a program with nice earnings from all countries ... of course you will get many more hits per day when you put all countries but for a tiered program a lot of those hits won't earn you money.

So in short .... you have to surf the SAS PTP in order to have your own PTP sites seen, you better not sell your advertising credits but better use them to promote, do read the both links I put above as there you find nice information about advertising prices and results. First get some experience with programs before you invest too much money ...
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