I received an email from All you submitters saying that the site is now up and we should go ahead and check it out.

I did . Found out that my referral link had XXXX in the box .

So I used the contact form and send a note to the webmaster letting him know that.

He wrote me back saying that when the site is up everything will be ok.

No problem there


Then I get a second email stating this:

Hello,

Please go back and read the email as I am tired of repeating exactly
what was in that email regarding your question for the 50th time.
This is a Paid To Read Program, start earning your money.

Admin
AYS PTR Program


Not sure what happened but I emailed only once and as to start earning my money??? What does that mean?

He must of not deleted your mail and re-read it thinking you sent another? My only guess.

I am a webmaster and I would never say that to any of my members that is RUDE and if i were u I would send another email stating that there wasnt a second email that only 1 was sent and that that the comments wasn't necessary, and that u do try and earn your money and if it was fixed then thank u if not then rudiness isn't the way to be when someone needs help. I have a couple of members that their accounts for whatever reason does get all discobobulated and I have to go in and fix it atleast 1 a week, and i have yet to be rude when they notifiy me about it. Just my two cents..... Thanks

It's bad enough reading some of the negative
e-mail sent by web site owners to all members,
let alone what some of them send to individual
members sometimes.

If they aren't able to politely answer polite
questions, they shouldn't own a paid-to-read
program. Many paid-to-read owners like to send
impolite messages telling members that they
should have read a previous message - I don't
expect that, as the member may have signed
up after the message was sent, or might have
forgotten. Most members are subscribed to
many paid-to-read programs, and must focus
on much more important aspects of their lives
than remembering every e-mail message I
send to them.

I did. I said I do not know what you are talking about but you answered me on this already and I had only sent in one mail.

I'd estimate atleast 25% of the programs that I'm in have ***hole webmasters.

I've unsubscribed from most programs like that,
and may unsubscribe from another program too,
now that their recent messages were very
negative (especially to Indian and Chinese
members) and they have raised the minimum
payment again.

omg, you're not in the good programmes ... but I suppose the 75 % other webmasters are great .. hope for you

Welp I can say that I welcome all for mine... I just delete cheaters or better yet I don't let them earn from their referrals if they were cought cheating like making downlines with bogus email addresses/memberships things like that... I try to be fair but I never try to single out countries for what some of the nationals do... if this makes sense/...lol

when i have a problem with an email link or a search link, i ALWAYS send an email to the webmaster telling them to debit my account. if i get a smart-a** reply back, i'm out of that program !! that's my acid-test for webmaster's. most appreciate my honesty and i've made many good friends this way. as for the others, i said 'goodbye' long ago.....

Is anyone receiving any e-mails? My earnings went up by 9 cents (plus the $10.00 "sign up bonus"), but I haven't gotten any e-mails from them since the one that told us to login and check our accounts a few days ago. Also, I'm guessing we're basically screwed if we upgraded our membership to executive?

gosh knows your title is right.. 90% of the time members are the advertisers without them we would not have nothing.. I get cursed out/threatened and I have yet to say one ugly word to any member. I think that's horrible that a webmaster would treat you that way. I remember once a member fussed me out cause her account somehow got deleted still not sure how it happened.. but it was close to the beginning so it was probably a glitch and she told me don't even respond cause I have no intentions on coming back. Well I was dumbfounded of course cause I had no knowledge that she was having problems so I did email her back and we talked and she ended up resigning and is still a happy member.. My philosphy on life is do unto others as you will have them do unto you. I feel if your nice to people they get some of that nice energy and can't help but to be nice back.. Plus he has to remember that we have a job to do, we are serving the needs of this industry.. We are not the industry.. the members are.. Without them there would be no ptrp sites or forums etc.. One thing you might tell him is you get more bees with honey than vinegar..

in fact he states that he has had to answer that question 50 times well then obviously he needs to look at the site to see if he was not clear on the information whether than going off on someone for it..

rjm, I'm a bit concerned, too. Haven't received but the one paid link from him to go to the account and make sure it's correctly filled in. Which I did and I'm down to 3 of 6 refs, too

As far as the rudeness, I'm thinking he still is stressing over all the upsets and the time spent "righting" everything after all the cheaters had fun with the proggie. Doesn't excuse the rudeness, but might help those folks understand a bit more. I'm a bit off on it, also. But I'm seeing the webmaster trying to make a go of a good proggie and keeping it going.

Y'all are just seeing the effects of very likely extremely long hours and many screams of scam, etc. showing through. And, too, there are some webmasters who don't have full people skills I'll take this one over those who've run off with the money.

LOL Maybe we should send some happy dance ecards to him

I will not waste my time criticizing or insulting some webmasters as 1) it is unlikely to change, and 2) some webmasters probably revels in the letters of shock and repulsion that it regularly receives. Instead, I will focus on its reprehensible belief systems, which, after all, are the things that intensify or perpetuate jujuism. I would like to start by discussing its morals, mainly because they scare me. The thing I'm the most frightened about is that it can fool some of the people all of the time. It can fool all of the people some of the time. But some webmasters can't fool all of the people all of the time. Anyone who hasn't been living in a cave with his eyes shut and his ears plugged knows that I have to laugh when some webmasters says that the most valuable skill one can have is to be able to lie convincingly. Where in the world did it get that idea? Not only does that idea contain absolutely no substance whatsoever, but I find that I am embarrassed. Embarrassed that some people just don't realize that it is always prating about how it has its moral compass in tact. (It used to say that cannibalism, wife-swapping, and the murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior, but the evidence is too contrary, so it's given up on that score.) As reluctant as I am to admit it, I do not have the time, in one sitting, to go into the long answer as to why short-sighted degenerates are deeply impressed by some webmasters's guff. But the short answer is that it is trying to brainwash us. It wants us to believe that it's fatuitous to chastise it for not doing any research before spouting off; that's boring; that's not cool. You know what I think of that, don't you? I think that if the past is any indication of the future, some webmasters will once again attempt to make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks. Even if our society had no social problems at all, we could still say that if some webmasters gets its way, I might very well crawl under a rock and die.

I suspect that some webmasters will unequivocally set up dissident groups and individuals for conspiracy charges and then carry out searches and seizures on flimsy pretexts sometime soon. I base this confident prediction on, among other things, the fact that outrage pounded in my temples when I first realized that it wants to stigmatize any and all attempts to establish democracy and equality. More than that, many people respond to its stolid witticisms in the same way that they respond to television dramas. They watch them; they talk about them; but they feel no overwhelming compulsion to do anything about them. That's why I insist we perform noble deeds. Some webmasters's hired goons are brainwashed automatons programmed to spout line after line of pro-some webmasters propaganda. Think I'm exaggerating? Just ask any of the most valuable members of our community, and they'll all tell you how some webmasters has been known to say that slimy marauders are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. That notion is so huffy, I hardly know where to begin refuting it.

Some webmasters contends that the Earth is flat. Excuse me, but where exactly did this little factoid come from? Some webmasters truly believes that its opinions represent the opinions of the majority -- or even a plurality. It is just such irresponsible megalomania, apolaustic egoism, and intellectual aberrancy that stirs some webmasters to develop a credible pretext to forcibly silence its opponents.

Some webmasters wants us to believe that we can solve all of our problems by giving it lots of money. We might as well toss that money down a well, because we'll never see it again. What we will see, however, is that there is something grievously wrong with those sullen fanatics who burn books. Shame on the lot of them! Given some webmasters's current mind-set, I myself do not find protests that are ill-bred, clumsy, and peremptory to be "funny". Maybe I lack a sense of humor, but maybe the antithesis of bestial cannibalism is moral, religious, and cultural solidarity among the people of a nation. Or, to express that sentiment without all of the emotionally charged lingo, some webmasters keeps saying that this is the best of all possible worlds and that it is the best of all possible organizations. Isn't that claim getting a little shopworn? I mean, I am certain that if I asked the next person I meet if he would want some webmasters to pit people against each other, he would say no. Yet we all stand idly by while some webmasters claims that we should abandon the institutionalized and revered concept of democracy. I'm not writing this letter for your entertainment. I'm not even writing it for your education. I'm writing it for our very survival.

We are at a crossroads. One road leads into the light of a bright, shining future in which insufferable clods like some webmasters are entirely absent. The other road leads into the darkness of chauvinism. The question, therefore, is: Who's driving the bus? After days of agonized pondering and reflection, I finally came to the conclusion that some webmasters's claim that profits come before people is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind. If you agree, read on. Some webmasters can't possibly believe that it has the mandate of Heaven to outrage the very sensibilities of those who value freedom and fairness. It's stupid, but it's not that stupid.

Did it ever occur to some webmasters that maybe the destructive power of its canards is their appeal to the immature, the brazen, the viperine, and the intellectually stultified? Dream on. To say anything else would be a lie.

Who is some webmasters to decide what is morally acceptable for us and what is not? What I just wrote is not based on merely a single experience or anecdote. Rather, it is based upon the wisdom of accumulated years, spanning two continents, and proven by the fact that some webmasters revels in its putrid campaign to exercise control through indirect coercion or through psychological pressure or manipulation. Let's remember that. So long as the devastating inequities that characterize our society persist, some webmasters's subalterns will be unable to deny that I believe I have found my calling. My calling is to lend a helping hand. And just let it try and stop me. In that respect, we can say that some webmasters is capable of only two things, namely whining and underhanded tricks. Some webmasters maliciously defames and damagingly misrepresents everyone and everything around it. There's a word for that: libel.

There can be no doubt that some webmasters is trying to hold itself up as a cultural icon. I put that observation into this letter just to let you see that I indubitably insist that I will dedicate the rest of my life to my efforts to break the spell of great expectations that now binds ethically bankrupt scatterbrains to some webmasters. My views, of course, are not the issue here. The issue is that if this letter did nothing else but serve as a beacon of truth, it would be worthy of reading by all right-thinking people. However, this letter's role is much greater than just to appeal not to the contented and satisfied, but embrace those tormented by suffering, those without peace, the unhappy and the discontented. What I mean to say is that some webmasters's surrogates do not accept the fact that some webmasters's policies just don't stand up. That conclusion is not based on some sort of feral philosophy or on some webmasters-style mental masturbation, but on widely known and proven principles of science. These principles explain that by allowing some webmasters to toss sops to the egos of the vulgar, we are allowing it to play puppet master. So what if some webmasters hates me for pointing out that its jibes, while ideologically grounded in a rhetoric and practice of conformism, are surrounded by a cloak of secrecy and "plausible denial"? Let it hate me. I consider such hatred a mark of honor, a mark of distinction.

Even some webmasters's vicegerents are afraid that some webmasters will encourage superstitious idiots to see themselves as victims and, therefore, live by alibis rather than by honest effort when you least expect it. I have seen their fear manifested over and over again, and it is further evidence that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Of course, if some webmasters had learned anything from history, it'd know that to say that we're supposed to shut up and smile when it says bleeding-heart things is headlong nonsense and untrue to boot. The bulk of asinine masters of deceit are at least marginally tolerable, but not some webmasters. I am quite certain that some webmasters's greed will be its undoing. Now that's a rather crude and simplistic statement, and, in many cases, it may not even be literally true. But there is a sense in which it is generally true, a sense in which it indeed expresses how some webmasters believes that courtesy and manners don't count for anything only because it has a need to believe that. Think about it, and I'm sure you'll agree with me. Although it has been a long-standing observation of mine that lewd Luddites ought to be worshipping at a higher altar than the bottom line of a balance sheet, prudence is no vice. Cowardice -- especially some webmasters's grotty form of it -- is. What I take much more seriously than primitive, impetuous control freaks are unprofessional, crude drug addicts. Even more remarkable, there are those who are informed and educated about the evils of quislingism, and there are those who are not. Some webmasters is one of the uninformed, naturally, and that's why I correctly predicted that it would feed us ever-larger doses of its lies and crackpot assumptions. Alas, I didn't think it'd do that so effectively -- or so soon.

Some organizations are responsible and others are not. Some webmasters falls into the category of "not". It may seem senseless to say that exclusionism is the last refuge of the worthless. Nevertheless, the position can be defended. Maybe it's not fair to call some webmasters's acolytes "careless" just because they perpetuate misguided and questionable notions of other disgusting fomenters of revolution's intentions, but remember that I must ask that some webmasters's flunkies begin the debate about some webmasters's hijinks. I know they'll never do that, so here's an alternate proposal: They should, at the very least, back off and quit trying to introduce disease, ignorance, squalor, idleness, and want into affluent neighborhoods. That's our situation today, in very rough outline. Of course, I've left out a thousand details and refinements and qualifications. I've not mentioned that I myself experienced quite an epiphany when I first realized that some webmasters's opinions are somewhere between a scam and a sham. And I've ignored metagrobolism altogether. I've simply pointed out one key fact: Some webmasters's activities are a mixture of nasty self-righteousness and hate-filled duplicity.

Um....who, or what is the "it" you keep referring to in your post?

"It"="They"
English is not my mother tongue.

Well, in reading your post, it seems to me that you carry quite a heavy load.
It is also obvious that you are greatly concerned about many societal issues.
I really hope it helped you to pour it all out here, although I believe that your anguish runs far deeper than your distaste for the webmasters of the Get-Paid-To-Read industry.

I sincerely hope that you find peace in your life.

Very enjoyable read michmaj. I agree with your views (although I wouldn't single out WMs) but personally have pretty much given up on society saving itself. Humans are what they are and for most that means emotions, not facts, is what they use to govern themselves - I don't see that changing anytime soon so my best advice is to stay off the bus.