It seems that many PTR programs also have PTP pages. Is this a good thing to add to my site, or is it an expensive proposition? I know I can add a lot of banners onto the page, but enough to pay members anywhere from .20 - .80 CPM?

And where is a good place to get this plug-in, and how hard will it be to install?


edited to add - um, is this the 'start page' function? if not, what is the start page - just a referral page?

Amanda - learning, learning, learning.

I just think if you dont know what you are doing already then adding ptp would not be a good thing.

From what I know of historicalwanderings, it did not have a good name, so that could be some of your problem. You need to go and advertise your site like crazy to get members. Are you having a referral contest?

I am in about 30 ptr sites and I dont think I have seen your site advertised anywhere.

Here is one paid to promote plugin

http://scripts-r-us.com/shop/product_info....e19ca9978be448b

Good luck!

Take it from someone who used to own 3 paid to reads with ptp only thing ptp does is make you a poor poor men. I spent $1500-2000 on plugins for those sites after spent $500-700 on the sites and come selling time I probably made $300.

One thing I love about ptc script I will always get almost if not more money then spend on them. Which might be why I have so many I treat them as investments paying monthly income as I have in past sold them as needed instant money.

Do not do it much now usually I sell when someone asks me at weak moment then I regret selling later on.

Jeffrey Johnson

You already are stating you don't want to run the site because of the work involved and because you don't really know what you are doing

Adding PTP will probably double the amount of work (checking for cheaters, site approvals, making sure there isn't any offensive material on the third party pages you run in the ptp rotator, etc). If you don't understand a plugin or the functions of the plugin its best not to add it to your site unless you have someone to help you understand the plugin

the plugin itself is 150.00 plus installation.

If you don't know how to get advertisers NOW how do you expect to get advertisers for the ptp pages? Just putting your own banners on the page doesn't bring in any cash from outside advertisers.

and no historical wanderings did not have a good reputation (former owners linked to both steve allen and tanya hiltz, former owner did a runner on another site) in the past so you are fighting that also.

I think I will not run the PTP at the moment, until I learn the other functions.

And I do know how to get advertisers; I run 3 other websites, 2 of them make most of their income from showing CPM ads. I will put them on this site as well. What I don't want to do is sell 2000 PTC ads when I only have 50 members; it would take too long for them to be used. It's not fair to the advertisers. But my membership base is growing daily, so I'll start selling 100 - 200 ads to people, and increase that number as I grow.

I was under the impressions that HistoricalWanderings had not operated as a PTR site. I thought that members had signed up but the site had never been run. I checked out the boycott forums, etc, and found no mention of it. Ah well, one more thing I've learned. But with new people coming onto the web all the time, I'm sure I'll manage to find some more members. And with a $1 payout, I'll just have to prove I'm paying, and sustainable.

Amanda - off to redesign the start page.

Your impressions regarding the history of Historical Wanderings are totally and completely incorrect. I personally signed up for Historical Wanderings as a PTR site. I personally clicked on emails that were sent from Historical Wanderings and got credit for those clicks. I personally clicked on PTC at the Historical Wanderings PTR site.

So the site was DEFINITELY launched and run.

I left Historical Wanderings because of the owner's relationship to (and defense of) Steve Allen

Even if NONE of that were true--her sites were hosted by Steve Allen. She was an admin on another site for Tanya Hiltz. She did a runner on Northern Nanuk. You will find that there are many many members of lots of sites that have VERY VERY long memories especially when it comes to runner po's or po's that ever had anything to do with Steve Allen or Tanya Hiltz.

I can certainly understand the long memory bit, I have found that on a lot of PTR programs. I have been burned myself several times.

I'm just saying that I looked around a bit before I bought the program, and found nothing about it. I didn't know that it had been running, especially since I got it completely cleaned up - all the databases, etc are empty, except the members one. I did, in fact, buy the site from Steve Allen, who I had never heard of before; I talked to him in 2 eMails, and haven't heard from him since. If I had known the members were not active, I probably would have bought a new script, rather than this one.

I'm obviously going to have to work harder to overcome some of these details. The only thing I can do now is make the best of what I have, and prove myself to be a reliable, paying webmaster.

Amanda