On those, the members decided they didn't mind getting ptp links in search ads so long as they were properly targeted so I'll still honor them on the rare occasions that I get to the ads before Karen does. All it takes is a couple 3 mouse clicks to retarget the ads when {insert affliction here} isn't bugging me which is maybe 2% of the day.

Real quick on the account reinstatements. If you use the same email address to request an account reinstatement and use the same email account to request a different account to be reinstated, both requests will be deleted. If you do the same thing for the same account, the earlier request will be deleted.

Not trying to be mean, it's just that huge tasks freak me and I don't see it as one thing at a time, I see it as 101 redemptions and 111 support requests and that's more than I can handle.

PS. Best guess is that your ptp ad didn't get processed yet because it wasn't gotten to yet. More likely it's because I was snagging the easy ones to get out of there and not doing them in the right order.You have an ad coming up either 1st or next so that's probly the reason. I remember the night I was working on them was a couple nights ago when everything got put on hold because the latest nerve block only worked for about 56 hr which would coincide with the time I was working on the ads.

PPS. If it's the one for ValePTR ptp page, it just went out

Sorry to see that things have turned so badly for you; I hadn't visited here in awhile, having to deal with my own family problems.

For these dietary changes you made, who gave you these recommendations? Is it someone who received formal training and has a license, like a registered dietician, or someone non acredited?

Ron didnt almost lose his paypal account due to the number of referral levels at tesasteamails. It was due to he being paid for autosurfs with paypal. Other sites such as donkeymails seem to have no problem making paypal payments and they have multiple referral levels.

that may very well be - but I know of many sites that have lost their paypal for stupider reasons than more than 2 ref levels - I am not taking any chances - I am sticking with their TOS

Karen

If it wasnt a problem for 5+ years dont see how it would be one now but not my decision to make. Whats more upsetting is some of the recent site changes I do not consider to be minor. Some of which were not even posted in the forum nor in an admin message. I dont think Ron approves of some of them but he is no longer any part of admin and is a regular member now.

What site changes are you referring to - any change I have made I have sent an admin - I haven't made any other changes

And Ron can speak for himself - he knows how to contact me

Changes include must log in every 25 days and be 25% as active as referrals to earn from downline, points buy/sell fee raised to 1.5% and limit of 3 listings per member of points for sale (was originally 5 until per member request he raised it to 10).

I prefer that members get a chance to give their input before any changes which affect earnings. Given youd need to sell over 750,000 points at current market rate to earn $5 I dont think there will be many payouts outside of random payouts.

Since your pm is similar to your forum post rather then repeat same things I'll have this post as the answer to that message.

and its 20 clicks - and that is to discourage the members that think they can click once a month and consider themselves active - as for the 25% to earn that has actually been there a while I just put it on the front page - I want active members not people who sit Idly be and let their downline do all the work - and that was in the admin for the term changes

Yes the 25% was in the admin messages. Given the high number of ads available I'd prefer a lower percentage for the membership. I dont blame you at all for wanting active members though. How long has the rule been 25% and not on the front page? Given my activity level is high it likely wont affect my personal earnings.

I honestly don't know - I was surprised when I saw it on the front page - so for a few months at least - I don't remember changing it but I might have but it would have been quite a while ago - and as for the 20 clicks - you have that beat and if for anyone if you normally meet that requirement and are a few short one month it won't count against you - it is a guideline not a cut in stone rule things happen I know that the idea is as I said to prevent those people who think they can click once every month or two and stay active - it doesn't work that way

I kinda have a question about the 20 clicks myself - why all of a sudden start forcing clicks? I might be able to understand it if TTM had ptp which it doesn't - I have no problem with clicking x amount of links to use the ptp....that is a fair trade off to me. But to force clicks on mainly points is nuts - JM2CW on it.

As for the bolded part - I have no downline - and half the time TTM loads extremely slow for me and I have a cable connection - I get tired of waiting for it to load.,,,so doesn't exactly make me want to go click much either.

because - I was hoping to bring back the ptp every once in a while as surprise - you will never know when it will be on or off - lol but I thought it would be good to have a click schedule in place just in case - if anyone thinks they will have trouble meeting the click requirement do to computer or personal issues just let me know and we will work something out

I don't know anything about ptp at Tesa's - but if you say so lol - I haven't known anything about it since I joined.


And ETA - I wasn't talking about click contests (I suck at those myself) - just the sudden change in 20 clicks to be considered active out of the blue.

Its the 25% I was referring to. Since my monthly activity count is usually 1000+ links I doubt I will lose any referral earnings. Only will affect those whose downline is very active if the member who referred them is 75%+ less active.

Would be hard to advertise a sites ptp if it was turned on and off given that ads expire faster at some sites then others. I also dont recall tesas ever having a ptp. Guessing its click contests not a ptp that is coming back? Was an admin message about that and the new plug in is on the site for it.

yes we are having click contests and yes we are set up for ptp - hpwever Ron found that there were too many cheaters to make it financially feasible - no you won't make a lot of money of our ptp - I haven't even decided on a rate yet - lol however if you are advertising the site you will get a nice little bonus as it is the ref link that is used in the ptp here - at least from what I remember it was - it has been a long time since Ron ran it so hard to remember

I am not exactly over the moon about the idea of a PTP on the site. An affliate page would be my choice.

All new WM's will make changes, often no more than a tweak. But some can be quite off putting. I belong to a site that the owner had to give up for health and work reaons. It had a forum, not overly active but it did have fun comps where you got to know other members. The new owner not only stopped the comps but did away with the forum completely. And with the forum went the caughtya's as well.

Compared to that the "new" WM at Tesas has not made any changes I do not feel happy with.

Even though I have a membership at another site that includes ptp but no affiliate ads I believe an affiliate ad would be the better choice for tesas. Ptp has caused problems at other sites even leading to some of them closing as it tends to not be profitable to the site owners.

When something has been stable for so very long change tends to make me nervous. In the long run though as long as we retain our supportive membership we should be able to adjust and continue to give our advertisers the support they seek in advertising.

ok - I am agreeable to affiliate ads - I will put it to a vote from everyone else

I don't care for click quotas!

When there's a click quota enforced, members click, click, click without paying much attention to what's advertised. Most of my sites with click quotas don't have good results from joining other programs, purchasing via my Amazon Store Etc because they're too busy trying to make the quota then move on to the next site.

If you're serious about click quotas, please allow multiple windows.

Also, have a monthly click contest set up only for the click quotas, so we can have up to the minute results, Because I can't get the monthly clicks box to work on my earnings page.

Are all these changes, 25% activity, $5 payout, click quotas, etc. definite? I need to change all my ads and my banners.

the $5 payout is for the first year only - to make sur they are going to stick - the 25% activity is to weed out those that depend only on their downline for earnings and don't click themselves - if I see that this is no longer and issue I will lower it or remove it - I don't like members who click once a month and that's all thre is to that one - just trying to get more members active

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I am confused about the 25% part. 25% of what, and how will I know when I have clicked enough?

you need to click 25% as much as you ref does - so if your ref clicks 100 times you need to click 25 times to earn from them - you can't see what they have clicked so just keep clicking away and you will be fine the only members that will have an issue are those with downline members in the top 10

if you are worried pm me and I will look up your refs clicks for you and let you know where you stand

Karen

Thanks!