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rhart
Looks like they deleted my account ! Haven't cheated or anything had a nice downline not spectacular but I was reaching the $3,--. Now since today I'm not able to loggin anymore am.gif

Has anyone else had this problem....this makes me angry !!

Oh..and no I didn't press a remove my account in a e-mail or something. I read my mails and I'm very carefull with this!

######...I hate this kind of things...have contacted them and lets see what they have to say. arghhhhhhhh
rhart
Just had a reply...

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As per our terms and the welcome email you received from us your account was
deleted for not logging in with user name and password for 30+ days. This was
also posted at the top of all paid emails for over 2 weeks! Setting a bookmark
to the PTC's or Account Balance is not logging in with user name and password
as the email and terms stated that you MUST do at least once every 14 days.
After 14 days your account was frozen. If you would have even tried to log in
you would have received an error message to contact me... you did not. At 30
days you account was automatically deleted.

I am sorry but there is nothing that I can do now to recover this account.


Ok..indeed I didn't login, but I visited the site every day, clicked all links, did read all my e-mails so I was active. I thought that would be enough to keep my account active !! But seems they think different about that....I find this unbelievable ! I thought it was a nice program...hmm

Just be warned everybody that this could happen to you aswell !! Bye bye all bucks I've earned, bye bye downline, bye bye all the money on advertising I spend to get people joined under me, it was all for nothing... am.gif
acarose
rhart

How quick you are to jump all over me as Webmistress of Ways Of The Rose. It took you less then 10 min. to post your complaint here... it is to bad that you where not as quick at typing your user name and password.

Since you are posting emails here PLEASE do not forget your last email to me.

[QUOTE]
Unbelievable this.....I thought that going to the site everyday would be
enough ?? Why should I log out and login again ? I'm the only user on my PC.
I'm as active as I can...I thought that should be enough ?
[END QUOTE]

You act as if it is my fault that you can not type your user name and password at least once in 30 days.

It was you who agreed to the terms and conditions of Ways Of The Rose. So why are you complaining when your account was deleted for breaking them?

It was you who could not read the top of EVERY PAID EMAIL for over 2 weeks where it stated you MUST log in with user name and password at least once every 14 days. If you do not log in for 30 days you account is automatically deleted.

So much for reading the emails huh!

So please do not rip me apart in a pubic forum because you are to LAZY to type in your user name and passord at least once in 30 days as is required by ALL members!

Thank you
Deb
flashcash1
Ways of the Rose webmaster is really right in this situation...
It is not hard to login atleast once in this period of time.


The PTC section is always full. SO, it only benefits you to login anyways.
rhart
How can you call me LAZY ?? I visited the PTC page every day, and clicked all 'smilies' ! And most important how can you visit this if your not logged in ??

The only thing I didn't do is that I didn't log out in this 30 days, and log back in again. Well I didn't see in the terms that you need to do that...

So if in my eyes I'm logged in (and I can't believe that I'm the only one that thinks like that) it just isn't right to delete my account. I've done nothing wrong, was active clicked all the smilies every day, etc...

If they (Wayoftherose) want you to login every day (or within every 14 days) they could set the cookie in such a way that it will expire after let's say 14days and that you always would need to log in. But they haven't done that...

How many people don't have direct links to the PTC pages ?? And are not logging in ?? Come on I'm not the only one...if being active is only about logging out and logging back in again I find that strange.

PS. and I didn't try to rip you apart...just trying to get a discussion here.
cashjob
I actually agree with rhart. Thats a weird way of doing things.
How ever if that is the way the Wm wants to run it then so be it. i am afraid that is going to create some awful angry members in the long run though, especially those that belong to a lot of ptr's and click a large ammount of links each day. I mean how many are actually going to go back to the site after the timer window is done and make sure they log out? I bet not many wil. If you want them to log in so bad why not either include a logoff link in the timer window (if possible), set the cookie to expire within a few days or send the odd link out that forces the member to login? ( as far as i know some of the scripts include the last option)
I find it a weird way of doing things...but hey, its your program aa.gif

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It was you who agreed to the terms and conditions of Ways Of The Rose. So why are you complaining when your account was deleted for breaking them?


Yup, he agreed to it then so be it...but i am sure you are going to lose more people like that...and they wil be awfully unhappy.
rhart
Thx for agreeing with me Cashjob (or at least partly) !

QUOTE
QUOTE

It was you who agreed to the terms and conditions of Ways Of The Rose. So why are you complaining when your account was deleted for breaking them?




Yup, he agreed to it then so be it...but i am sure you are going to lose more people like that...and they wil be awfully unhappy.


This is exactly in their terms

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You MUST log in to your account at least once every 14 days to be considered an active member of WaysOfTheRose.


Above isn't very clear. It is not telling you to logout and login afain every 14 days with your username and password. In my eyes logging in is visiting their site and visit the PTC section clicked on the smilies etc....
sierra36
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.) It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites
rhart
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 10:50 PM)
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.)  It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites

Uhm...please read the story again...

I went to the site every day ! I visited the PTC section their, clicked on all the links etc....every single day since I joined.
cashjob
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 05:50 PM)
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.) It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites

most sites that i participate in actually have a direct link to the stats on the ptc page...no need to even log in for that.
ppprk
My account is gone too
what happened to my account?

I requested payment IN MY LOGIN AREA & got my first payment 12 days ago(May,1)
and I think when I checked yesterday I had more than $4
ppprk
QUOTE (cashjob @ May 12 2003, 05:32 PM)
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 05:50 PM)
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.)?It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites

most sites that i participate in actually have a direct link to the stats on the ptc page...no need to even log in for that.

Me too
see above
I requested & got my payment 12 days ago & my account doesn't exist anymore?

I check my stats almost every day
ppprk
This was my stats when I checked yesterday

usdollars
QUOTE (rhart @ May 12 2003, 01:15 PM)
Setting a bookmark to the PTC's or Account Balance is not logging in with user name and password

Learn something new everyday aj.gif .... logging in now
tom.mie
webmasters - don't use script that has direct link to account stats
members - don't bookmark such urls

this is only solution I think.
mdenison
Another program I won't join it looks like. ad.gif
mguiddy
Same thing happened to me with the other program WotR's wm has (ways to wealth).

The thing is I know for a fact I logged in a week before I got deleted.
How do I know you ask, because I heard a story of someone's account at drivingcash had gotten deleted because they didn't physically log in for a certain amount of time so I decided to do that at all my ptc's.
And when I did I found that my account was frozen at drivingcash and waystowealth so I had to email the wm's to reactivate my account and I logged in right after I got the email from each wm saying they unfroze my account.
sierra36
QUOTE (rhart @ May 12 2003, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 10:50 PM)
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.)? It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites

Uhm...please read the story again...

I went to the site every day ! I visited the PTC section their, clicked on all the links etc....every single day since I joined.

um... i did read the story.. duhhh how else would i have responded ao.gif
Im not picking a fight here but it states right in terms i think, that u must log in every 30 days.. and IF you had tried to log in anytime within the month you would have seen that your account was locked and you had to email her..

Mine was locked awhile back and all i did was email her and ask her to unlock it.. It was unlocked within 30 mins.

So i figure you have to type in the url in the bar and log in that way.. Not through an email or what not.. Even though i do it just fine from the emails..

PPPK did u by chance log in before yesterday.. Just my observations

Dont take it out on me im just the happy internet person who loves her corner of happiness...lol

Its a insane world afterall
ppprk
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 08:23 PM)
QUOTE (rhart @ May 12 2003, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 10:50 PM)
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.)?It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites

Uhm...please read the story again...

I went to the site every day ! I visited the PTC section their, clicked on all the links etc....every single day since I joined.

um... i did read the story.. duhhh how else would i have responded ao.gif
Im not picking a fight here but it states right in terms i think, that u must log in every 30 days.. and IF you had tried to log in anytime within the month you would have seen that your account was locked and you had to email her..

Mine was locked awhile back and all i did was email her and ask her to unlock it.. It was unlocked within 30 mins.

So i figure you have to type in the url in the bar and log in that way.. Not through an email or what not.. Even though i do it just fine from the emails..

PPPK did u by chance log in before yesterday.. Just my observations

Dont take it out on me im just the happy internet person who loves her corner of happiness...lol

Its a insane world afterall

hey
We are not the script creator & have no way of knowing exactly how the script is working.
I am one of the persons who are using bookmark
I check my stats almost every day (because I have been paid & promoting the site using top sponsor ad of my program),but it was by using my bookmark
When I was in the LOGIN area,I assumed I was logged in.
(I am sure that it is the same thing that happend to rhart)

If you read this thread,I requested my payment in my login area 12~14 days ago and I am saving my stats page whenever I check my stats.

I think this is another stupid feature of CAC script(not of Ways of the Rose)
When ppl are really active(I mean that they are reading & clicking paid emails),why should they get deleted for inactivity.
seeseawolf
I bookmark too...I belong to so many its just easier to do all of them that way...start at the top and go down...lost my waysoftherose account too. oh well theres plenty more ptr out there.
qking0
Just find my account was deleted too!

Same like most of other peoples, I make bookmark of the page of PTC or earnings, so I don't need to enter username and password every time. I think I do log in by this way, if not, why can I see my stats? And also can make clicks in PTC?
So, I think it the problem with the script. If you cant accept members to log in by this way, we should be asked to fill username and password.
rhart
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 13 2003, 02:23 AM)
QUOTE (rhart @ May 12 2003, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 10:50 PM)
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.)? It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites

Uhm...please read the story again...

I went to the site every day ! I visited the PTC section their, clicked on all the links etc....every single day since I joined.

um... i did read the story.. duhhh how else would i have responded ao.gif
Im not picking a fight here but it states right in terms i think, that u must log in every 30 days.. and IF you had tried to log in anytime within the month you would have seen that your account was locked and you had to email her..

Mine was locked awhile back and all i did was email her and ask her to unlock it.. It was unlocked within 30 mins.

So i figure you have to type in the url in the bar and log in that way.. Not through an email or what not.. Even though i do it just fine from the emails..

PPPK did u by chance log in before yesterday.. Just my observations

Dont take it out on me im just the happy internet person who loves her corner of happiness...lol

Its a insane world afterall

The only thing why I said read the story again is that you wrote

QUOTE
I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......


And I've done that, each and every day. Only with a bookmark in my browser favourites to the PTC section. And I assumed, as I already sad before, just like PPRK that I then was logged in and this should be enough.
ppprk
QUOTE (rhart @ May 13 2003, 12:48 AM)
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 13 2003, 02:23 AM)
QUOTE (rhart @ May 12 2003, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 12 2003, 10:50 PM)
I have to agree with the webmistress on this one.. Its not that hard to log in the site every 29 days( 30 i think would be cutting it to close to get deleted.)?It is to the members benefit to log in.. I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......

Well anyways i love both her sites

Uhm...please read the story again...

I went to the site every day ! I visited the PTC section their, clicked on all the links etc....every single day since I joined.

um... i did read the story.. duhhh how else would i have responded ao.gif
Im not picking a fight here but it states right in terms i think, that u must log in every 30 days.. and IF you had tried to log in anytime within the month you would have seen that your account was locked and you had to email her..

Mine was locked awhile back and all i did was email her and ask her to unlock it.. It was unlocked within 30 mins.

So i figure you have to type in the url in the bar and log in that way.. Not through an email or what not.. Even though i do it just fine from the emails..

PPPK did u by chance log in before yesterday.. Just my observations

Dont take it out on me im just the happy internet person who loves her corner of happiness...lol

Its a insane world afterall

The only thing why I said read the story again is that you wrote

QUOTE
I mean come on how many ppl go 30 days without looking at their stats...lol I know i check mine once a week at most of the sites...

Arent ppl just alittle curious on how much they are earning what their downline looks like.. Ect......


And I've done that, each and every day. Only with a bookmark in my browser favourites to the PTC section. And I assumed, as I already sad before, just like PPRK that I then was logged in and this should be enough.

sierra36 - i am not PPPK ak.gif
rhart - I am not PPRK ak.gif ao.gif
earners
I had the same thing happen last week, my account was frozen because of not logging in

I had my account unfrozen and credit goes to the webmaster for a speedy reply but then decided to cancel my account because I supported the program by clicking, readinge emails etc etc only to find I was listed for deletion through inactivity.

How many more are going to support this program, remain active and so on only to be deleted????????

I have enough to do and don't need to have to remember to log in every 15 days to keep active.

There are a few more that I'll be canceling soon as they too demand that you log in every 15 days.

Suggestion - change your scripts so you can stop accusing members of being inactive when in fact they are supporting your program!

(Webmaster - I do understand the reasons behind it and understand it's the only way you can track inactives)
rhart
QUOTE (ppprk @ May 13 2003, 06:57 AM)
sierra36 - i am not PPPK ak.gif
rhart - I am not PPRK ak.gif ao.gif

Sorry....PPPPRK

added now one addidional P to make it up...ae.gif
rhart
QUOTE (earners @ May 13 2003, 07:51 AM)
(Webmaster - I do understand the reasons behind it and understand it's the only way you can track inactives)

This is not the only way to track that..there are lots of ways to do this. And also if they want to track it in this way they could set the cookie to expire after 14 days so that you always would need to login again.
ppprk
QUOTE (rhart @ May 13 2003, 03:27 AM)
QUOTE (earners @ May 13 2003, 07:51 AM)
(Webmaster - I do understand the reasons behind it and understand it's the only way you can track inactives)

This is not the only way to track that..there are lots of ways to do this. And also if they want to track it in this way they could set the cookie to expire after 14 days so that you always would need to login again.

I think he means " with that script"
sierra36
sorry PPPkR darn fingers forgot the other P aj.gif

I For one have both CC scripts and paidmail scripts.. On cc they dont have the 14 day option.
It is nice in a way to see who hasnt logged in but when members on that site dont log in for a period of time im going to send them an email asking them to log in..

I think this is another way to weed out the members who dont even click on emails also (not saying you guys dont of course)

I have quite a few members who just recruit and dont log in or click links. I use the inactive log(which on paidmail is the same area as the log in) to watch members i look at accounts and what not to see if they click at all..
The ones that dont click anything i will put on hold just like ways

Maybe its an error that you are logging in but not registering in the admin that you are.. Im not sure..

Have you all tried to email her and ask?? She always seemed so helpful when ive emailed and fast..

Other then that i dunno what to say.
rhart
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 13 2003, 02:41 PM)
sorry PPPkR  darn fingers forgot the other P  aj.gif

hehe...you had enough P's only missed the R ac.gif
And this time the r and k are the wrong way around ae.gif

But to stay on topic.

QUOTE
Have you all tried to email her and ask??  She always seemed so helpful when ive emailed and fast..


I've emailed her a couple of times now (one of the responses was in the beginning of his thread), and am waiting now for her next response...
Novisol
I have a bad experience with this program to!

I got deleted for clicking a "do not click link" ONCE!!! I am not using cheat software and i believe that i read my email realtively good... But this webmaster is speculating in ways to delete members so that she wont have to pay...

Thats just sad... I mean she points to the TOS and stuff but hey the logging in thing is just a way of cheating people!!

Avoid this program ao.gif
badkitty
Is there a way with those kind of scripts to set it at manual log in every so often?

That would save all these problems and make everyone happy, right?
a3member
Today, I was soo surprised that see my account! av.gif av.gif
Most of my downline gone, even 2-5 level downline was "ZERO"!!! ah.gif

I can't understand this matter... ah.gif

Here is my earning stats :
rhart
I was in your downline...so that could explain it a part of it...
mmamamel
Well I have to say, I have been paid with the program. In evey single email it does read you must log in every 14 days, It is in caps so you Can't miss it. I do book mark my sites just like everyone, but clean out my cookies once a week so it forces you to have to log in and speeds up your comp too.
ppprk
QUOTE (sierra36 @ May 13 2003, 08:41 AM)
Have you all tried to email her and ask?? She always seemed so helpful when ive emailed and fast..

Other then that i dunno what to say.

Yes...
From what I heard from them & read in this thread,it seems they have no way or intention to fix this situtation.
SpendingTheCheese
This program has very very strict rules ah.gif .

My downline is zero because someone my downline didnt log in thier account. ah.gif

I wouldnt try promoting this one. What if your downline is inactive...?
ppprk
QUOTE (promoballer86zx @ May 13 2003, 08:47 PM)
This program has very very strict rules ah.gif .

My downline is zero because someone my downline didnt log in thier account. ah.gif

I wouldnt try promoting this one. What if your downline is inactive...?

The problem is not that they delete members for inactivity,but that we get deleted when we are active & when we are supporting them
rhart
QUOTE (promoballer86zx @ May 14 2003, 02:47 AM)
This program has very very strict rules ah.gif .

My downline is zero because someone my downline didnt log in thier account. ah.gif

I wouldnt try promoting this one. What if your downline is inactive...?

That was me, I joined after you in the downline builder and a3member before that...sorry....
freeandeasy
This is a FreeAndEasy sister site and I am not a happy camper.

It is not smart for her to delete active members.

She is deleting other sister site managers, which is not smart.

I was clicking most of the links, and she deleted me. This is VERY not smart. am.gif

ah.gif
akvancleave
Morning everyone! Bright smiling faces here ab.gif

The views reflected by this site manager are in no way the views of Go-Mama-Hosting and any of our sister sites. As a matter of fact she is no longer a site manager and has chose to purchase the sites and become an independant owner.

I know that you all are very upset with the webmaster and her TOS and so forth and are especially upset that your accounts have been set to inactive and or deleted. If there were something I could do to help I would but I am unable to. Maybe if you emailed her directly and explained your side and ask to be reinstated....?? Just an idea and please don't jump on me for making a suggesstion....LOL! I am only trying to help you members.

Everyone try to remember every webmaster is different; webby #1 may allow inactives to go 45 days and then give them a chance while webby #2 allows 30 days period, no chances, you are outta here. Some are leniate (SP?), some are not. Some will do everything in thier power to assist a rational member, some will not. Everyone is different and runs thier programs thier way. As we (at go-mama-hosting and sister sites) do not agree with the webmaster here it is her program now and we can not change how she runs it.


Ok, I think I better shut up now as I think everyone is fueled enough. Just remember that if you do not agree with a webmasters views it is so not worth getting your blood pressure all worked up over.....


SMILLING FACES!! ab.gif ab.gif ab.gif
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