Hi Everyone,
I have a very bad new and I am really in deep deep trouble now because for this scammer "Egold User" his ICQ Nickname, who is also known as Jack Kareus contacted me for exchange of Paypal to Egold and Evocash.
"Electroshock" ICQ who is also known as thierry Kouda helped me to exchange from Paypal to Evocash and he agreed that I will send him Paypal and he will send me back Evocash immediately after I transfer to him. I trusted him and I send the Paypal $783.88. From then on, once I send the Paypal money to him, I asked him to make the transfer right away, and you guess what he say? This is the ICQ conversation log I talk to him for the exchange:
Han 4/4/2003 1:37 AM I have only $816 for transfer now
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:38 AM ?? !!
Han 4/4/2003 1:38 AM so can i send it to you now and i will get my
evocash right?
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:38 AM yes, you a right !
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:39 AM pelase, fast
Han 4/4/2003 1:39 AM what is your paypal email again?
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:39 AM koudathierry@hotmail.com
Han 4/4/2003 1:40 AM Evocash: 121732
Han 4/4/2003 1:41 AM send evocash to me now
Han 4/4/2003 1:41 AM I am sending the paypal to you now
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:41 AM you send me money?
Han 4/4/2003 1:41 AM yes
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:41 AM ok, im checking
Han 4/4/2003 1:41 AM International Verified Premier Member (new)
Han 4/4/2003 1:41 AM Pay To:
koudathierry@hotmail.com
Han 4/4/2003 1:42 AM correct??
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:42 AM YES
Han 4/4/2003 1:42 AM sent
Han 4/4/2003 1:43 AM can you check your paypal now?
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:43 AM ??
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:43 AM yes
Han 4/4/2003 1:43 AM send evocash to me at : 121732
Han 4/4/2003 1:45 AM r u there ??
Han 4/4/2003 1:52 AM Hello ...
Han 4/4/2003 1:52 AM can u send the fund to my evocash now?
Han 4/4/2003 1:53 AM what happen man?
Han 4/4/2003 1:53 AM send it to here now: 121732
Han 4/4/2003 1:53 AM I need it urgently pls
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 1:53 AM you got money trought 7 days. sorry.
its say now my prartner
Han 4/4/2003 1:54 AM what?????
Han 4/4/2003 1:54 AM you tell me instantly now you tell me 7 days?
Han 4/4/2003 2:15 AM Hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Han 4/4/2003 2:15 AM R u there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 2:15 AM hi
Han 4/4/2003 2:16 AM Send me egold now !!!!
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 2:16 AM Please waiting 7 days
Han 4/4/2003 2:16 AM No!!!!!!
Han 4/4/2003 2:16 AM Send me back my paypal now
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 2:16 AM ?
Han 4/4/2003 2:17 AM do you want me to make a report case on you?
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 2:17 AM OK! please wait.
I'm got you money back tomorow.
Han 4/4/2003 2:17 AM I can do that easily
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 2:17 AM please. not !!!
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 2:17 AM please. not !!!
-Electr0Sh 4/4/2003 2:17 AM my parnetr is gon offline
Han 4/4/2003 2:17 AM No... Send me back to my paypal now
And Jack Kareus who is the one who asked me to help him on the exchange from Paypal to egold and evocash and I have done all the transaction for him for exchanging PayPal to egold and evocash. Then he reversed all the payment that caused my Paypal account to have a negative balance of -$3,112.95 now.
Jack Kareus and thierry Kouda must have worked together to scam me all out and cheated all my money.. I am really got into trouble and my paypal account is in Negative balance all because of these scammers, I received email from Paypal and they required me to fund my paypal account back to positive status. I really got really stress out of this and I really hope you guys can give me advice on how I can recover back my Paypal back to Positive balance.... Deep in my Heart I would really very appreciated for those who are willing give their hand to me and help me out in this real problem....
Rgds,
Han
Full Version: ATTN, Scammer Stolen All my money.. Pls HELP!
you need to contact paypal imediatly!!!!!! send them a copy of your exchange and if you dont get a answer right away call them! you also need to contact whoever funds your paypal (bank, credit card ect) and tell them what happened . I am so sorry you got ripped off I hope you get this resolved
I did send all the scammers conversation logs and filed a complaint on this fraud cases to Paypal already and I am still waiting for the paypal pending reversal fund to recover by paypal. I did call paypal immediately and paypal tell me they will be looking into this matter. But I received the email from paypal that they required me to fund my paypal account back to positive balance. I really don't know what I can do.. I hope someone could really help me out on this problem.. I am really very appreciated for all your kind help.
I am so sorry, I hopesomeone with more experience posts, I do not know what else to do, I hope this gets resolved with you getting your money back 
I am so sorry this happened to you.
I am so sorry this happened to you.
I received the email from paypal that they required me to fund my paypal account back to positive balance.
---> Does that mean you didn't paid the money yet to paypal?
You have a bankaccount or creditcard attached to your paypal account?
---> Does that mean you didn't paid the money yet to paypal?
You have a bankaccount or creditcard attached to your paypal account?
my debit card is added to my paypal account, I don't have any money to fund to paypal to restore to positive now.. That's what my current problem are.. Looking for solution of this matter and hope those you have experience being scammed by someone could be able to help. I would be really grateful about it...
Can't you reverse your paypal payment to them?
I did the reversal too, but now those funds are still in pending reversal mode. And I receive email from paypal asking me to fund to paypal to restore to positive balance. How am I going to solve this prob? I felt very down now.
i feel really sorry for you but i have no idea what you should do
Maybe call paypal up on the phone and talk to them?
Maybe call paypal up on the phone and talk to them?
Absolutely call them on the phone. They are total ###### via email.
You have to be polite to them, but they are in the WRONG for sitting on this.
You may have to keep calling.
You have to be polite to them, but they are in the WRONG for sitting on this.
You may have to keep calling.
I Feel So Sorry To Haer About This...
Electroshock is one of the Mods in e-goldforum.
And he tried to scam b4.
Electroshock is one of the Mods in e-goldforum.
And he tried to scam b4.
how come your paypal is in such a large deficit (>$3000) when you only gave out ~700?
electr0sh0ck is a BANNED member on this forum
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...sult_type=posts
looking above its easy to see why
all his posts were trying to exchange money.. hes a known scammer.. I'm sorry for you DO contact paypal through PHONE straight away.. and if they won't help take it to the police/FBI
Sometimes doing to the top is the only way to teach these people a lesson
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...sult_type=posts
looking above its easy to see why
all his posts were trying to exchange money.. hes a known scammer.. I'm sorry for you DO contact paypal through PHONE straight away.. and if they won't help take it to the police/FBI
Sometimes doing to the top is the only way to teach these people a lesson
Someone made a payment to him and then reversed it after he withdrawled it
I did a check on this email address through paypal:
koudathierry@hotmail.com
It's locked down, you cant send anything to it.
koudathierry@hotmail.com
It's locked down, you cant send anything to it.
QUOTE (eauctionstreet @ May 12 2003, 01:39 PM)
Someone made a payment to him and then reversed it after he withdrawled it
but he sent the paypal... not the other way around
Jack Kareus who is the one who asked me to help him on the exchange from Paypal to egold and evocash and I have done all the transaction for him for exchanging PayPal to egold and evocash. Then he reversed all the payment that caused my Paypal account to have a negative balance of -$3,112.95.
Jack Kareus is also from egoldforum.com he reversed all the paypal that he sent to me after I make the exchange for him from paypal to egold and evocash... That is what happen.. Jack Kareus Paypal money come to me and I exchanged them with egold and evocash for him, after that, my egold and evocash sent are all sent to him. Then he reversed all his payment he sent to me and all goes back to him. That is how he try to scam me.. I really got shocked that he do that to me.. I felt very badly hurt over this.. I really hope someone could really help me out of this... Really hope.....
Jack Kareus is also from egoldforum.com he reversed all the paypal that he sent to me after I make the exchange for him from paypal to egold and evocash... That is what happen.. Jack Kareus Paypal money come to me and I exchanged them with egold and evocash for him, after that, my egold and evocash sent are all sent to him. Then he reversed all his payment he sent to me and all goes back to him. That is how he try to scam me.. I really got shocked that he do that to me.. I felt very badly hurt over this.. I really hope someone could really help me out of this... Really hope.....
Hi Everyone,
Good News! I got my Paypal recover back to normal now.. Now my Negative balance is about -$90.95. Paypal is actually investigating this fraud issue and got my account back to normal. That's great and glad Paypal really help me on the investigation of this matter to get it resolved for me.
Now my problem is my Negative balance is about -$90.95. Those are all the Cancel fee from the reversal payment. I have no money now to actually come out with $90.95. Anyone that willing to donate some to me to get my paypal back to normal, that would be really great and I would be very grateful for all the help you guys have been giving me. I can send you some of the useful scripts in return for helping me.... any amount will do..
This is all the useful scripts that you can use for your website:
PM me which script you want and I can sent it to you after your donation, I would be very grateful for all your kind deed really appreciated !
http://www.superscripts.com/documentation/index.shtml
Rgds,
Han
Good News! I got my Paypal recover back to normal now.. Now my Negative balance is about -$90.95. Paypal is actually investigating this fraud issue and got my account back to normal. That's great and glad Paypal really help me on the investigation of this matter to get it resolved for me.
Now my problem is my Negative balance is about -$90.95. Those are all the Cancel fee from the reversal payment. I have no money now to actually come out with $90.95. Anyone that willing to donate some to me to get my paypal back to normal, that would be really great and I would be very grateful for all the help you guys have been giving me. I can send you some of the useful scripts in return for helping me.... any amount will do..
This is all the useful scripts that you can use for your website:
PM me which script you want and I can sent it to you after your donation, I would be very grateful for all your kind deed really appreciated !
http://www.superscripts.com/documentation/index.shtml
Rgds,
Han
Anyone who could help me out on this issue would be very much appreicated and truly grateful for your kindness and great help....
This is all the useful scripts that you can use for your website:
PM me which script you want and I will pm you my paypal account number to you. I have really learn a very very painful lesson not to give your paypal account to untrusted person. I will be in big risk.
Then I can sent the script you want after your donation, I would be very grateful for all your kind deed really appreciated !
http://www.superscripts.com/documentation/index.shtml
Rgds,
Han
This is all the useful scripts that you can use for your website:
PM me which script you want and I will pm you my paypal account number to you. I have really learn a very very painful lesson not to give your paypal account to untrusted person. I will be in big risk.
Then I can sent the script you want after your donation, I would be very grateful for all your kind deed really appreciated !
http://www.superscripts.com/documentation/index.shtml
Rgds,
Han
hmmm, I think you would get a better responce if you maybe got some search pages up and asked people if they could do a search or 2? I understand your delema but rember we are all here earning pennies for our time and to do a search or 2 would be much easier to do. just a thought 
good luck.
good luck.
Because you contacted paypal very quickly they probably managed to get the money back from the scammers before they could deposit it to their bankaccount.
Feel lucky the scammers could be stopped in time.
The -90$ your account has right now because of fees ... yeah well how ya think paypal becomes rich?
Just be glad it didn't stayed at -3000$.
Feel lucky the scammers could be stopped in time.
The -90$ your account has right now because of fees ... yeah well how ya think paypal becomes rich?
Just be glad it didn't stayed at -3000$.
never send that much money in one go.
send $10 and then wait for a payment in return the send another ten or you could do it in 50s or even hundreds but don't send it all at once.
send $10 and then wait for a payment in return the send another ten or you could do it in 50s or even hundreds but don't send it all at once.
Glad you got this taken care of, but my gosh pp charge YOU for getting your $$ back from a scammer? That's rediculous. scammer should be charged not you.
btw-do you have any search sites? I'm poor myself, and may be homeless shortly but I can search for you. I know it's not much $$ from searches, but over time perhaps can restore that 90 in your account.
btw-do you have any search sites? I'm poor myself, and may be homeless shortly but I can search for you. I know it's not much $$ from searches, but over time perhaps can restore that 90 in your account.
listen bud you should be happy you got the deal covered like you did. that is one of the older scams out there, getting people to send gold for other other payment system
i would even send copy of everyuthing to egold , even if they aint gona help out they have info on scammers and who knows if enough keep complsaining something may get done
so you are $90 out? its not as bad as it once wasyou should be happier than you where b4.
its an expensive leason I ersonlally wouldnt trade with anyone i havnrt known online for over 6 months
and become good freinds with not on icwq at all
also im paranoid about key loggers, ghackers, and trojans and wouldnt be using any other shareing services
like msnm icq, chats, webpages anything while loggong into bankingtype websites
go to a trojan scanning website and check your pc out for comms every so often.
jeez chatting on icq ewhile doing egold! my pc is stipped bare of programs running while i do anything like that
i would even send copy of everyuthing to egold , even if they aint gona help out they have info on scammers and who knows if enough keep complsaining something may get done
so you are $90 out? its not as bad as it once wasyou should be happier than you where b4.
its an expensive leason I ersonlally wouldnt trade with anyone i havnrt known online for over 6 months
and become good freinds with not on icwq at all
also im paranoid about key loggers, ghackers, and trojans and wouldnt be using any other shareing services
like msnm icq, chats, webpages anything while loggong into bankingtype websites
go to a trojan scanning website and check your pc out for comms every so often.
jeez chatting on icq ewhile doing egold! my pc is stipped bare of programs running while i do anything like that
Did you know this guy personally before this "transaction" or was he just an "online acquaintence?"
Didn't you charge a good premium for exchanging $3000? hmm let me think most charge atleast 5 or 10% - so surely that 90 is covered in your 'premium' lol.
I wish I could help with cash, but I never keep any in my paypal. like others here I can do a search for you
I wish I could help with cash, but I never keep any in my paypal. like others here I can do a search for you
people to eager 
to make a very fast buck attract scammers :ph34r:
to make a very fast buck attract scammers :ph34r:
Hiyas, if you would like to do a search for wingoldweekly please use these 2 search engines
http://www.instant-ecash.com/search/
http://www.hyperaff.20m.com
we have another post about this that he keeps everyone informed as to how much money has been raised and thanks to so many caring people he is up to 8.664! that is ao wodnerful thank you all for being so kind.
If you would like to see the other psot and keep updated go here:
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...30&#entry651514
thanks a ton hugssssssssss
http://www.instant-ecash.com/search/
http://www.hyperaff.20m.com
we have another post about this that he keeps everyone informed as to how much money has been raised and thanks to so many caring people he is up to 8.664! that is ao wodnerful
thank you all for being so kind.If you would like to see the other psot and keep updated go here:
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...30&#entry651514
thanks a ton hugssssssssss
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