Hello Members...

This Letter Goes to ALL Members of EVERY SITE I OWN!!

You all know what I think of cheaters......and I do my best to be fair
however..This is notice to every member and no one in particular....so
that every member has all the information and thier are no suprise or
no crying when your account gets deleted.


1. ANYONE caught using ANY TYPE of  Paid 2 Read Optimizer or Software
Will be Terminated....NO Exceptions.

You signed up to READ ADS not to have some software skim for links for you.


2. If you get caught cheating in ONE of my sites.....you get deleted from
ALL of them.

This Includes: Z-Cash, Explorer.Z-Cash, CashWage, E-mail Value, SizzleClicks,
TyliaPays, and Infinity-Search.


3. Effective Immediately At the VERY bottom of random emails will be a clearly
marked Link

DO NOT CLICK BELOW THIS LINE>>>>>>DO NOT CLICK BELOW THIS LINE>>>>>>>

Anyone clicks 3 times is Deleted.



For those of you who dont know about it....there are many new programs
out there that pulls all the paid links from a mail....thus they are not reading
them.


4. Anyone caught clicking on paid links NOT send to you..will also
be deleted. Some ads are send to specific countries/Interest Only.
I have click logs and can see What Links EVERY Member Clicks, along with
all thier info.

5. Any Member From China, India or Bangledesh who is caught KNOWLING
clicking on CLEARLY Labled Search Links INCLUDING Paid to CLICK Sections
; which is violations of terms....WILL be Deleted!!


6. Payments for Payouts MUST be Sent to YOUR OWN Account..I cant be sending
payments all over the place....If you cant use one of our 3 payment options
you will need to redeem for Ads... This is too hard to keep track of who is
who. If you have a serious issue with this email me with your issue and we
can work something out to help you.

7. IF prior arrangements are made in regards to #6 and I have paid you
for example at Paypal and it shows the Name as completely different than whats in
your account....well....we have an issue. I will email you for a explaination
and well....if you chose to ignore the email....well I will make sure
I follow your lead at next payout request.

8. As far as payment Options.....If at all Possible Please chose Paypal if you
have it.....The majority of payments in I get are Paypal. I have business
account so I pay a fee On each payment I get....I have been eating fees, thats
not an issue as I said 90% of money in comes threw Paypal. Moneybookers
and E-gold (the sites that have that option) are VERY Costly to buy and
I dont want to have to charge fees....but when I have 80% of you requesting
it...it becomes very costly to keep buying. I have those options mainly
for those people who live in those countries who Paypal does not support.


9. Cant belive I need to add this one....but ANYONE who makes threats
to hack ANY of the sites or anything on that lines will BE deleted.

10. Please remember it is your responsibility to Know the terms of the sites
you Join.


At most of my sites I have made changes to most of the Interest Options
in the members are...however to those of you who are using sofware
to automatically check ALL the options that are in the Standard Sites
and have check those that well....dont exsist really  you will be deleted too.


TO ALL the HONEST ACTIVE MEMBERS......Thank You soooo Much.
This is to make the program better for you....
More money in your pocket less in the cheaters.

Isnt it amazing how lazy some people got....when they cant even
read 8 lines of text in a ad....??

Heres to a Long relationship  and I look forward to paying you Each
MANY MANY TIMES


Dana

1. ANYONE caught using ANY TYPE of  Paid 2 Read Optimizer or Software
Will be Terminated....NO Exceptions.

You signed up to READ ADS not to have some software skim for links for you.

Anyone seen the last email from Dana, if not here it is below:



I'm going to quote the part of it here and make my comments to it.



And Dana is ABSOLUTELY correct. You are here to READ emails, not just have a program click the links. So Snazzy, you are very much completely wrong. Your software is CHEATING software. Same goes to anyone else who thinks it is alright to use that software, yes it might make it easier, but it isnt far to the advertising is you are NOT reading the ad that they have paid to send. That clearly makes you cheating, not just the WM, but the advertiser.

At most of my sites I have made changes to most of the Interest Options
in the members are...however to those of you who are using sofware
to automatically check ALL the options that are in the Standard Sites
and have check those that well....dont exsist really  you will be deleted too.

i don't understand this one?
I always check everything anyways....how can you check something that doesn't exsist?

I always check everything anyways....

me too...in hopes of getting more emails

me too...in hopes of getting more emails

I think what Dana's saying is that she's changed some of the names used to identify the interests. So the cheat software will try to check boxes that no longer exist, which she should be able to see in her site logs.

Make sense?

actually that thing on tylias doesn't work...when i tried to check the get bonus emails box and clicked save changes it said that i must choose 3 interests so i still haven't got any boxes checked

I'd like to say that when I tested this "cheater software" (not Snazzy's), because the user has the option to do everything manually, these cheater links will become obsolete. Unless of course the person using the software is in fact attempting to cheat, and not being observant at all, they will be able to remove cheater links from the queue and avoid clicking them just as easily as a person doing their emails manually.

Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

So the fact that an honest member can't use this software honestly without being labelled a cheater?

The fact of the matter is, the software I tested is alot like Outlook Express, in many ways. I'm sure that MANY people use Outlook and they aren't cheating, apparently... So how is it different? In order to be consistent, an email would also have to be sent out to address Outlook users and let them know that software isn't okay to use either.

So the fact that an honest member can't use this software honestly without being labelled a cheater?

The fact of the matter is, the software I tested is alot like Outlook Express, in many ways. I'm sure that MANY people use Outlook and they aren't cheating, apparently... So how is it different? In order to be consistent, an email would also have to be sent out to address Outlook users and let them know that software isn't okay to use either.

Yes, the software does pull out all the links in the emails.  But similarly to Outlook, the software downloads all your messages (has to be a pop email account in order to work) and enables you to view them without going to the email account website/page.  I found that using my PowersurfBrowser was still more preferred than the software, but because of all the controversy behind it, I had to test it for myself. 

There are good points and bad points, and relating to this particular thread, I can't see how the use of the software alone can render someone a cheater.  Because of it's similarity to Outlook Express (and Outlook Express can also be configured to pull links out of emails), just the use of it alone cannot be considered cheating.  We have to look at the people using it, not the use of it in general.

Besides which, like I said before, even if a person is intending to cheat, they can delete cheater links and therefore aren't caught in the trap...  I'm just not sure how the cheater links catch anyone but non-english speaking people.

I just went and checked too.. my receive bonus email box was unchecked. I checked it, saved changes, went back to see if it stayed checked and it didn't. In fact, tried it twice, must be some little glitch

So the fact that an honest member can't use this software honestly without being labelled a cheater?

The fact of the matter is, the software I tested is alot like Outlook Express, in many ways. I'm sure that MANY people use Outlook and they aren't cheating, apparently... So how is it different? In order to be consistent, an email would also have to be sent out to address Outlook users and let them know that software isn't okay to use either.

Well, I know anti-cheating action is required (I hate cheating as well) but sending DO NOT CLICK link to ENTIRE members is very annoying.
It's like saying "I'm suspecting all of my members might be cheating" or giving medicine with very strong side effect.

Most people who do not use GetPaidForum (and other forums related to online reward programs) will avoid programs sending DO NOT CLICK link (if they are aware before joining, but unfortunately most people do not read terms before joining).

If some member clicked DO NOT CLICK link 3 times out of one thousand DO NOT CLICK links (0.3% failure)...do you still think she/he is a cheater?

Isn't there another anti-cheating action without annoying honest members?

Well, I know anti-cheating action is required (I hate cheating as well) but sending DO NOT CLICK link to ENTIRE members is very annoying.

I dont really care.....what excuses people want to use for what...
Members OPT in to READ EMAILS , not link here and text over there...
The EMAILS in the WAY in which I send them
If I or any of my mangers of my sites CATCH anyone using ANY TYPE Of SOFTWARE..........
becasue they are TOO LAZY to READ! (this is sad when people are that lazy)
They will be deleted from ALL MY SITES!!
Anyone I catch CHEATING......get the same destiny!

I DON'T mind the cheater links at all

some of the links have limited clicks

its a small glitch and for those of you who thought you clicked it are you getting the bonus emails???


I have contacted john on the glitch


but its no glitch for the options that arent even there

This is in the top 10 of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever seen.
Blaming SOFTWARE for cheating. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

What's the point of all this? What is SOOO damned important about your emails that I need to read them. You don't pay me to read your emails. The day I collect money for popping my mail, you can say that I am paid to read it. My account only gets credited for visiting sites, that means paid to click.

And to every GPTR out there, I have been using optimizing software for well over 2 months now and still use it. (Add on 100+ sites!)
So catch me if you can can.
I still read the emails, and I still visit the advertisers. What I do with my time is my business, not yours.

Stay out of my computer. It's mine. I'll stay out of your site admin. Deal?

Cybertongue is right. There is no reason using optimizing software should be illegal. We don't cry foul when you send MASS email automatically. That's your business, not ours. How you get the job done is your business.


Careful you don't get way to Gistapo, lest you meet your own demise.
That is one of the most hypocritical statements I have ever seen someone use. You have no problem automating your side, but as soon as a member finds an easy way to accomplish their goal honestly, you cry foul. What, are you mad you didn't think of it first and capitalize on it? This is just plain hypocritical. And your statement is also threatening. What's good for the goose...

This is in the top 10 of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever seen.
Blaming SOFTWARE for cheating. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

What's the point of all this? What is SOOO damned important about your emails that I need to read them. You don't pay me to read your emails. The day I collect money for popping my mail, you can say that I am paid to read it. My account only gets credited for visiting sites, that means paid to click.

And to every GPTR out there, I have been using optimizing software for well over 2 months now and still use it. (Add on 100+ sites!)
So catch me if you can can.
I still read the emails, and I still visit the advertisers. What I do with my time is my business, not yours.

Stay out of my computer. It's mine. I'll stay out of your site admin. Deal?

Cybertongue is right. There is no reason using optimizing software should be illegal. We don't cry foul when you send MASS email automatically. That's your business, not ours. How you get the job done is your business.


Careful you don't get way to Gistapo, lest you meet your own demise.
That is one of the most hypocritical statements I have ever seen someone use. You have no problem automating your side, but as soon as a member finds an easy way to accomplish their goal honestly, you cry foul. What, are you mad you didn't think of it first and capitalize on it? This is just plain hypocritical. And your statement is also threatening. What's good for the goose...

Fine then theengineer, who since coming onto this forum has started up so much trouble it isnt funny.

I advise you delete yourself from EVERY site you are CHEATING on. It is obvious that you are a developer of this software.

You get PAID TO READ. NOT PAID TO CLICK

theengineer is a cheat, he has openly admitted it. IF you just do emails to get money WITHOUT reading as you have said on here, then you arent doing as the site suggests.

You openly admit to using this CHEATING software, it doesnt optimize anything BUT the money you earn. I am currently going over all the posts you have made, as well as the email addresses you use and am compiling an email to send to the WM's of the sites you are with. I certainly hope you also get banned from this forum.

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Spare me the drama.
As in my quote, I do read the emails, and I do read the advertisements. The fact that they have to warn anyone, tells me that there is no means of detection. You know why? It's not cheating. Nothing about it is cheating.
Might as call Windows95 cheating, since you're not using command line.
Careful about how you Gistapo everything. You are going to start giving people the impression that you are self serving and only care about yourself.
Calling me a cheat is a personal attack (and not true). The only one that's going to get banned is you for calling me such. You are accusing me of something you are wrong about. Make sure you are sure. Don't just quote me on something. I'm well within the TOS of every site I'm a member of. LOL. Careful.
Since you have never used the plug-in to outlook I use, then you have no way of knowing what it does or how it does it. Your accusation is unfounded, and insulting.

Hey theengineer I just read your profile.

That is where you are completely wrong hacker. I have viewed ALL cheat programs that are out and gone over them. They are cheat programs.

As to what I Care about, I care about WM's that get ripped off by people like you hackers.

A little history for you folks.

The term "hacker" came about as a way to honor programmers that could come up with a good fix for a progarm, or a "hack".

"Cracker" was a term that applies to people that "crack" or break into systems. By using "Hacking", i am reclaiming something that is rightfully OURS, yes that is programmer lingo. Because of the media, that term has become something less than honorable. I am a "hacker" could be a "cracker" but choose not to, unless I'm under contract to do so.

Just thought I'd clarify that.

You are a cheat, a fraud, and a hacker. Personal attack or not, which it wasnt,

as well as the email addresses you use and am compiling an email to send to the WM's of the sites you are with

its a small glitch and for those of you who thought you clicked it are you getting the bonus emails???


I have contacted john on the glitch


but its no glitch for the options that arent even there

Besides, I have already identified him more.

As to cybertongue's post reguarding it not being detectable, you read Dana's post further up, you might see it can be detected.

I hate to tell you I hate CHEATERS.

But ever since theengineer has come to this forum he has caused trouble

Besides, I have already identified him more.

You're a hostile little cuss aren't you?

Look, just because you're in bed with one of the mods doesn't make you immune to having a BAD rep with other members. Your accusations are unfounded, unproven, and simple minded conjecture.

What are you babbling about? I've been around much longer than that. With a different username and password. OH!


You just don't get it do you? The software is undetectable! You cannot detect the software. Only people that use it for cheating. Hey, if you can find a way to tell me when I'm using Winword while visiting your site (save an ActiveX control) let me know.
Note to WMs, the ActiveX solution has already been tried. And guess by whom? (You are the ones who shot it down!)
Go that route, people are sure to call you Gestapo. Might as well be paid to surf.
Not many people are willing to download nuclear bombs to their computer. How much control do you want over my life? I (and several others) give as much attention to GPTR as it deserves.

You need a break mang. You seem to have some deep rooted hate issues.
"but ever since theengineer", would you stop pointing fingers? And for goodness sakes, get over yourself.
Your words sound to me, insecure, overdramatic, and self-riteous.
Are you a Taurus or something?
If encouraging people to think for themselves is causing trouble, then I'm guilty as charged.

What are you stalking me now? Go for it. See you in ######! "I'm your huckleberry. Play for blood? That's just my game." -- Doc Holliday, Tombstone.

So admitting you have had another account on the forum before, who's the fraudster now.
As to stalling you, I dont need to do that.
*laughs at the Taurus remark*
That's obvious if you have looked at my profile.
As to a website, you will never get to my websites.

nataliejones@ihug.com.au

I am trying to work out how I have your email address in my address book, have you ever emailed me before?

Strange message to get almost directly after you post. Kind of a coincidence don't you think? Especially from Adelaide.
That's the message I got from a hotmail account from you. Do you really need to resort to trickery to find out who I am? I'll give you all the info you need. Just PM me. You are obviously making this a personal vendetta.
Now folks, this guy is trying to be a mod on this forum. Do you really want this person moding anything?

If you really want to damage me. Try tracking my IP. Continue this, and personal information won't be the only thing I post on this forum, since you seem so daft *snicker* at digging up peoples info.

This is kind of fun. You know, this was really the first Multi-Player Online Game.

That's the message I got from a hotmail account from you

Interesting, I've never seen that email account in my life, and I havent. So it shows how much you know

These are TWO seperate emails I received from evolocityllc.com

You seem to have a serious problem with quoting, but not reading the quote.



I have the hotmail account. It is pretty plain that @ihug.com.au is not hotmail.

Was it you? Who's to say. It's just circumstantial. You know, you being from Austrailia, Adelaide of all places. Which is where this email originated.

The fact that it came not even 5 minutes after your last post would have anyone suspicious. LOL. But hey, that's not your style right? That sounds suspicious in itself. Kind of like a kid who got caught and is trying to snake his way out of it by lying. That's cute. And the "So it shows how much you know... " classic!

That's the message I got from a hotmail account from you

Fine then theengineer, who since coming onto this forum has started up so much trouble it isnt funny.

I advise you delete yourself from EVERY site you are CHEATING on. It is obvious that you are a developer of this software.

You get PAID TO READ. NOT PAID TO CLICK

theengineer is a cheat, he has openly admitted it. IF you just do emails to get money WITHOUT reading as you have said on here, then you arent doing as the site suggests.

You openly admit to using this CHEATING software, it doesnt optimize anything BUT the money you earn. I am currently going over all the posts you have made, as well as the email addresses you use and am compiling an email to send to the WM's of the sites you are with. I certainly hope you also get banned from this forum.

You get PAID TO READ. NOT PAID TO CLICK