Well I finally went ahead and registered my new domain today BestBux.org! I plan on launching one of these AdBux.org type sites while they are hot! I was going to order the script from GetBux.org who were selling it for $30.00 but it looks like today they have vanished in to thin air!

Anyone know an alternative site where I can get the script?

I definitely want the AdBux script not CashCrusader (or the standard older PTC script) as I will be launching a new PTR/PTC site called Creation Clicks using that in the future!

Don't know where to buy that script, but just one question.
Why does everyone has a domain with bux in the name.

Doesn't sound very original anymore.

lol New bux site is comming...

Yeah and it will be the BEST with cheap advertising and lots to click...

Why not be different and call your site something other than bux? Bux isnt even a word and suddenly its the most overused non word in PTR
According to dictionary.com its an acronym
Acronym Meaning
BUX Budapest Stock Exchange (Hungary)
BUX Bunia, Zaire (airport code)

Bux is where it's at. It's so futuristic and revolutionary that dictionary does not even yet have it listed in its new meaning. It's the word that the new PTC pioneers have chosen to represent this exciting new earning opportunity that is taking the world by storm and I plan to have the BEST site of the lot hence BestBux.org!

I just need that script! If ANYONE knows where to get it please PM immediately! I don't want to pay anymore than about $25 for it though!

Really!! I was just reading your theories in this other thread on sustainability
http://getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=493551
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Not neccessary a scam even though it is charging only $1.50 for 100 x 1 cent clicks with 60% referral earnings because nowhere near 100% of people who join these sites will reach payout!

Ok that is what I ment. Just because a site superficially appears not to be sustainable because its not covering enough to include downline earnings per click doesnt mean it really is unsustainable. Factors like how many people will reach payout MUST be taken into account. Nowhere near 100% of people who join these sites reach payout simply because without a good downline the earning potential is so miserly that most will give up long before they are anywhere near payout level. Not to mention even when you do manage to get a few referrals they are hardly ever active
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So is this new craze something you are taking seriously and intend to pay the members long term or is it something you think is the cool thing to do? How do you know how many will reach payout?
I got a special on 1 cent clicks in my view ads 4 cash section and the special is 100 views for $1.50 and the only reason I can cut it to slightly over cost price from time to time is because that section is an added extra to my site not the main feature and doesnt offer referal earnings.

Do you know how many sites have taken your theories and tried it and failed? Show me a site that has succeeded using your theories and is still here paying its members? Not a site that is 6 months old or less but one thats being doing it for over a year.

Not harping on your for you BUX domain name. To each their own. However, jumping on the bandwagon just because it is the "in" thing is something left to be desired. We you looking for scripts (or did you actually own one) of those HYIP sites last year when they were the "in" thing?

Once again, someone wanting to over saturate a particular thing (whether or not the thing is legit or not). Just because you build one, won't make it a success.

And I just love your concept of "have plenty of cheap advertising". I wonder if you will reward your clicks proportionate to that advertising or will you continue to offer them 1¢ per click whether or not you can afford to? Or, will you one day simply pull the plug once you make your desired profit?

Bux is the new flavor of the month. It will soon pass. All of the crazes pass. It is not a new word. It is a group of sites copying somebody else's idea. What it is is sad, not futuristic and not revolutionary.

One other thing I was wondering about. Are you gonna add all your ads in there before the advertisers come. Do you have money set aside to pay your members and hosting for a year? The advertisers will not just fall in line to buy from you. Adbux had to show their own ads for a long time. When they quit showing them every one got mad because no one had ads to click on. There are tons of the sites around that are sharing the same small group of advertisers. I hope you think long and hard about the site you are going to open up and make sure you have the funds before you do. I hope it is not some quick fly by night site like so many other bux sites. With no advertisers and no money to pay the members.

If you wanted to get in on this while it was "hot", you should have done so a month ago. It's already too old now to capitalize off of it.

And just so the newbies don't get confused, bux isn't new. When I first saw clickbux, I thought it was Evelyn Turner coming back all over again. Years ago, she had a site called clickbuxx (two x's).

The "bux" sites are just like those pixelsites.

The first guy who did it made a million dollars out of it.
Therefor it became so popular, everybody started to do it.
Well, #2, 3, 4 and 5 might have made some succes out of it, but then it get's really hard to make something out of it.

So is it with PTR sites. There are actually to many PTR sites to run a succesfull business these days.
IF 50% would fall of, and no new ones would come, members could earn more, and so those the PO.

And this works for actually everything.
If there is to many of something, all of them will lose.

But ah well, this is totally of topic actually, but I needed to say this.

Cash Delight is an example of a site that has been around a long time and sells some of its ads at what appear unsustainable prices. Sunrise Paid Emails has many of its ad prices set at below cost (lower than the cost per click with total referral earning levels added) and is still around and paying members. Of course these sites have other ads where they do make a profit to compensate and more people are likely to stick with a PTR and reach payout than with these single level downline PTC sites. A few referrals on multiple levels at a PTR can mean a big difference in your monthly earnings and it is a lot easier to buildup a large downline that way as you don't have to do all the work yourself. You may get lucky and have someone who promotes like crazy in your 2nd or 3rd level for example effectively building your downline for you.

Now while these PTRs undercut the price of some ads and are still sustainable because other ads are priced to make a profit, these PTC sites only have the PTC ads to sell but they relie on the fact less than 100% of members will reach payout. Where they go wrong however in my opinion is they offer too high an amount per click and far too high a percentage for referral earnings. The result of course is the advertising has to be so expensive that you are left with very little ads to click each day as few people are prepared to pay it and reaching payout takes forever unless you have a huge downline. The temptation to cut the advertising price to dangerously low, potentially unsustainable levels is ever present in a desperate attempt to attract more advertisers.

BestBux.org will be different! We will not be charging less for advertising than the combined cost of the click and the downline earnings for each click. Advertising will start at a very affordable $1.00. You will earn 1/2 a cent per click and 50% from your direct referral earnings and clicks will be priced at around 1 cent each for the advertisers! this is up to 75% LESS than rival sites doing 1c per click and 1c per downline click! With considerably cheaper advertising which is also fully sustainable there should be far more ads available daily and thus greater earning opportunities for members and at the same time you still earn a fantastic amount per click and still with an excellent referral level of 50%! It is a win win situation for both the advertisers and the members! There will also be a low payout of ONLY $3.00!

What's you site BTW?

Several points to make about your theory above (this is simply playing devil's advocate and its always best to look at ALL aspects of a project before diving in):

There ARE several "bux" sites today that are paying out at the 1/2¢ level and are slowly losing steam (less ads to click).

Stormpay (the rival to Paypal last year before the fiasco that happened with them) started their OWN PTC section using their own members accounts funds (Stormpay had MILLIONS of dollars of cash in member balances) and started the StormClix? site. While that had pretty good success, that, too, lost alot of steam after awhile.

Why? Simple: the viewers were clicking for the MONEY and not supporting the advertiser (signups, product purchase, whatever).

THIS is the problem with ANY incentive site: too many people in it for the money and not enough "window shoppers" (those people who actually DO want to purchase something if it strikes their fancy).

Now, you come up with a concept on how to beat THAT and you will lead the pack.

I don't believe that's true. I believe the Bux revolution is still very much hot and now is the perfect time to get in for a slice of the action! There was none of these bux sites before AdBux which first started using the script. Clicbuxx may have had a similar name but it certainly wasn't using the same script and I doubt if it offered high click values with 1 huge direct referral level either. AdBux has only been around for 3 months and the others starting appearing a month after that. So it is still a very recent phenomenon still.

Would you mind telling me which ads at CashDelight are selling at unsustainable prices or what appears to be unsustainable prices?

Thank you.

Well I hope you don't model your site after Sunrise--I think that was a poor choice of a site to try and say what sites can pull off ad prices at below costs because she got SUPER SUPER behind and she is still late paying. I think right now putting CashDelight and Sunrise in the same category is wrong as well as comparing all these fly by "bux" sites to a site such as CashDelight.

If you can pull it off, good for you. But don't just start off saying how you are going to have cheap advertising. That just means only the people with the biggest downlines will get paid before you crash. And the people who are doing all the clicking, won't see anything because your site will be done just like most of the other "bux" sites.

I'm not modelling my site after Sunrise or selling ads at below cost. The site will be run fully sustianable. You will earn 1/2 a cent for every click and 1/4 cent for every referrals click. 100 clicks will cost $1.00 to advertisers. I will offer referrals for sale, premium membership and as a bonus income stream I will even be offering the script itself for sale for the unbeatable price of only $29.00!

Yes I was thinking that too Srolly. And the theory expounded here is even worse.
http://getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?s...t&p=4756476

$1.00 - PayPal fees = $0.67.

(1/2 c + 1/4 c) * 100 = $0.75.

Then tack on hosting and domain cost.

Does the script you're buying come with reseller rights? You're still trying to find where you can buy it at all, right?

Regards,
Josh

PayPal fees are really that much on a measly $1? That's daylight robbery! People SHOULD be able to purchase using E-Gold who aren't blatant theives like PayPal with their ridiculous, obscene fees. Maybe I will have to charge more per click for 100 clicks and less for like 1000 if the script allows that. Not sure if it comes with reseller rights yet but I will find out and YES! I have a suppler now. I'm getting it for a great price and I should have the script in my posession in a few hours!

Of course the amount i'm offering per click and the referral level percentage could always be revised to take into account PayPal's crippling and outrageously high fee structure. PayPal is a bad choice for businesses that deal with small amounts of change but we are stuck with them and their unreasonable idiotic attitude.

PS I've already purchased the domain.

The Get Paid to Boycott Forum reviewed your site awhile back and pointed out a whole host of ads that were being sold at below cost. That just proves that not all ads have to be sold at cost or above for a site to be sustainable and make a profit. Some people on here seem to think for example if a site has 5 referral levels totalling 25% and sells a 1c ad to 100 for $1.20 then that is unsustainable which is not always the case.

If the ads are priced sustainably, no one will buy them. If all a person had to do was offer ads for sale, every PTR program would flourish. What makes you think that people are going to be willing to buy half cent ads to thousands of people at above cost from you when they won't do it with any other program?

The only reason the other "bux" sites have any ads at all is either because the members are redeeming earnings for ads, or the PO is sending out their own.

I think SOME people will buy ads at a sustainable price otherwise why would ANYONE open a site at all? I find it VERY difficult to believe that NONE of these ads that have popped up at sites offering 1c per click and 1c per referal click (which is 4 TIMES the cost of what i'm offering advertisers) have come from outside advertisers! People WILL buy sustainable ads providing the price is not too high and if I DO have to send out my own I will, it's not something I want to do but if it's something that proves necessary to start the site off well then I will. Who knows I might even get a few referrals out of it! I am also not going into this "pennyless" as I have plenty of reserve funds to use if I need to. Don't forget either that a VERY significant source of revenue is selling unreferred members and premium memberships!

I can see you're new, so I'll try to explain this to you...

It isn't just about charging enough to cover the cost of member clickthroughs. You still have a hosting payment to make every month. Let's say that hosting costs $30 per month (middle of the road cost, which would be a low estimate if the site has lots of members and uses a lot of bandwidth). Unless you intend to pay for it out of your own pocket, the ads will have to pay for that, too (and if a site is truly sustainable, they will). Do you realize how many ads you have to sell at 25 cents above cost in order to pay the hosting? 120. That's 4 ads a day, every day. Good luck with all that. Like I said before, if it was that easy, everyone would do it.

Clearly, you have decided what you want to do and think you have all the answers. That's fine; you're far from being the first to make that mistake. If I were you, however, I'd think long and hard about how you intend to handle the inevitable situation of site collapse and your tarnished reputation. Don't be like so many before you who thought they had everything under control, because you don't. I guarantee it...

One thing Cyber pointed out is there are MANY established sites that are struggling to sell even 1/4¢ ads (or even 1/5¢ ads). It doesn't matter if its a PTC, a PTR or from a traffic exchange. Getting direct purchases is a tough sell (no pun intended ).

By you simply creating a site with the "same ole, same ole" will be, well, just like so many others before you: struggling to get anything going OR at least struggle to survive once they reach their peak. Honestly, you aren't doing anything groundbreaking or cutting edge or even unique (no offense) and many of us have seen someone like you with high hopes suddenly get very discouraged when you realize the reality of the situation.

Premium memberships, if setup correctly, can bring in a nice, steady supply of income.
Selling unreferred memberships are actually a double edged sword. Think about this for a moment.
If you sell say a "50 referral pack" for $25, the people purchasing those "packs" are hoping to pull a profit from that purchase eventually. That means, you could have kept those 50 unreferred members for yourself and SAVED money in the long run.

Instead, you decided to SELL them today for a profit but in a few months, that "50 pack" will cost the site more than the initial $25 you sold it for. Of course, if your plan is to cut and run long before the $25 you made has been earned back, well, THAT would be a profitable venture.

That's what disturbs me about selling referral packs. Short term, it helps the webmaster. Long term (if it lasts long term) it HURTS the site.

Now, as far as Paypal is concerned, you weren't aware of their fees? Are you aware of Egolds fees? They are much less that Paypals but they DO exist.

I totally agree with you cybertongue.... It's a lot harder than you seem to believe.

You failed to add that the review was done in the year 2004 (3 years ago!) and that the ads that appeared to be sold at a loss were ads that were priced to sell to “all members”, eg. 1/2 Cent to ALL, and profit/loss was difficult to ascertain as it was very much dependent on the click-thru rates.

Since acquiring the ad manager plugin almost 3 years ago, ads were no longer sold to “all” members but fixed quantities. This has been the case for a good 3 years now and not a single ad being sold in the last 3 years is unsustainable or appears to be unsustainable, so I think to say that :



is VERY misleading. Note the use of the word “sells” which is present tense. This gives the impression that CashDelight CURRENTLY sells SOME ads unsustainable prices, which is entirely untrue. This has not been the case for 3 years! Misleading and using of very old information from 3 years ago to try and justify your school of thought on sustainability and what not is highly inappropriate.

I just had to post to set the record straight.

In any case, I'm not here to argue whether or not your site will succeed, all I can say is that running a reasonable size program, keeping it afloat, ensuring that there are genuine advertisers (and not merely sending ads belonging to the owner!) etc. over a sustained period of time is very much harder than you seem to think.

Good luck in your endeavours.

My post seems to have been over looked, I am posting it again.

Bux is the new flavor of the month. It will soon pass. All of the crazes pass. It is not a new word. It is a group of sites copying somebody else's idea. What it is is sad, not futuristic and not revolutionary.

One other thing I was wondering about. Are you gonna add all your ads in there before the advertisers come. Do you have money set aside to pay your members and hosting for a year? The advertisers will not just fall in line to buy from you. Adbux had to show their own ads for a long time. When they quit showing them every one got mad because no one had ads to click on. There are tons of the sites around that are sharing the same small group of advertisers. I hope you think long and hard about the site you are going to open up and make sure you have the funds before you do. I hope it is not some quick fly by night site like so many other bux sites. With no advertisers and no money to pay the members.

I see that you have answered some of my questions above. Will you pay for your ads as you put them up? How long do you have reserves for? 1 year? less?

The reason I am asking the questions is because these other Bux sites are going to crash and burn really soon. Especially Adbux, I think. I wonder how much of their debt is from showing their own ads. Some of these bux sites are going to pull runners. It would be great if you have all your ducks in a row before you start your site.

My advice to CreationClicks is to listen to what you are being told. Too many people have started sites and have failed to follow the advice given to them. Those sites usually fail. The advice you are being given comes from people who have been in the industry for a LONG time. While they may be new members to GPF, it's clearly obvious they've seen quite a bit in the industry. You would do well to listen to their advice and take heed of it.

He hasn't bought any script yet? This thread is 1 month old. And BestBux domain is unavailable!

look at this place...

http://www.yourownbux.info/store

http://www.yourownbux.info/store/showcateg...hp?CategoryID=4

Do you have rights to that script as I just sent owner of AuroraGPT link to it.

I have resell rights to AuroraGPT and know for fact you do not.

So how you have right to sell this script?