Some of my programs I have plenty of referrals but not many active ones.

Some are not active at all.

Why do people sign up and then not be active?

Some of these people came from the downline builder and others from referrals swaps and they are still not active.

I don't understand why someone would go to the trouble of signing up and then not click on one link.

What I wouldn't give for just a couple of really active referrals.

Anybody have any suggestions?

I like to see a3member signing up under me and bringing in thousands of referrals to my 2nd tier downline.

Cheers,
Papy

I think some sign up, find out they can't earn alot and fast, so they got bored with it and try and find a new website.

So what do I have to do to get a3member to sign under me??

Okay, but I belong to some really good earning sites where people can make some money if they just stick with it.


People who jump from one site to another thinking somewhere else will earn faster usually don't make any money at all IMHO.

Change your name to Papy?!?!

Hi Papy/

I hear ya! It's frustrating.

Lately though, I have been getting some very active refs that have signed up thru my sig....( THANK YOU!! )

I have made a very strong effort in the last few months to get refs for my favorite programs. It's been extremely difficult.

It seems online advertising is not very productive for me. So, I went to offline advertising, made ads/flyers and taken them all over town and posted them. I haven't had any luck at all. So, my next step is local ads in newspapers. We'll see.

I've tried to learn from Papy ( hi Papy! )....Seeing his nice style of ads. but I'm just not having very much success on my own.

I will say this though, as Papy mentioned, I have 2 programs where I managed to get a great referral, who then exploded my 2nd tier downline. It's very very appreciated!!!

I do this very often... Just sign up and never click... The reason is that I'm looking for good programs. If the program I join doesn't offer good enough earnings I simply forget about it. The problem is that I don't know before I signed up how a program is But within a while inactives will be deleted for inactivity

I hate it too, I have quite a few that are not active, i doubt they have clicked at all.

Warz. Do you not think that is a total waste of time, there's no point in waiting to be deleted when you can delete your own account.

Keep a list of the programmes you joined and put them in order of good to bad, then delete one off the bottom of the list for the newest one you joined. Its simple and effective, and its not wasting PO's time going thru inactives,.

For most of people that PTR, and PTC is just waste of time.

like one site that has PTP paid link that you can make 10 cents a day but do you think it worth of 5 hours of clicking? for Tire 1 and 2 countries.

and besides if you know others job, that can make you more then 10 cents for 5 hours, most likely they are going to do something else.

Hope you understand it.

if its such a waste of time, why waste your time signing up for a site in the first place? (and waste the sites bandwidth sending you a confirm email and your member info and all the emails most sites send thse days?) and waste the program owners time deleting you as an inactive anywhere from 7-45 days later?

why just not sign up in the first place? then nobody's time get wasted

Good point Bugsbunny. It is indeed disappointing when you have a good site you want to recommend and those that sign up do not stay and give the site a chance. I feel alot of members do not take the time to explore the many earnings capabilities on alot of sites they sign up for. Many also look at earnings rather than actual payouts. Many sites offer high earnings but you never get paid. Many members chase the latest thing launched with high expectations and many times are not paid their earnings. Hopefully, given time and experience, these members return to the stable, honest sites.

Shirley

Maybe they advertisers personally I rather have those in my downline then clickers as means you and clickers in downline have more to click on but guess some would rather have clickers.

I notice most advertisers rarely click on stuff.

LOL. I would like that too. I also liked it when I saw you sign up under me at 5Star. Just my luck Lia had to quit. Hope she's doing ok.

Wounder why no one wants me to join under them I been known for promoting sites if want to back in day.

Jeffrey Johnson

As to the original question. Yes, it frustrates me greatly to have a downline (when I actually have one) and the members are not active.

But, I understand some of the probable reasons.

Real life
Other jobs
They find out the payment processor is wrong for them (didn't check it out thoroughly enough first)
Decided they did'nt like the program.

However, unless the PO does something that ticks me off, the program becomes dishonest, sometimes if the PO changes, or makes changes to the TOS that are unacceptable to me, I usually stay in a program and stay active once I've signed up.

I say "no" to very few people, LOL.

Actually, I don't know much about you JJ. Just what I've heard and seen posted.

Feel free to sign under me at any of my programs. I never turn any one down.

I can understand that, up to a point. I know there are times I am a lot more active than I am at other times. Even lately I've been very busy away from my computer helping my daughter with her baby, but I've never just signed up for a site and never clicked a single line. That is just odd. And how do you know if a site is going to be good or bad if you don't even give it a try??

sometimes i am guilty of this but i don't do ref swap because i just become forgetful and then when i remember to login and click i am already deleted.. Sorry

I belong to an site, after I signup the link just 0.0001 cent or less. and unable to delete my account. that might be another problem too.

Even the site said 5 cents min payout. but not many link is avilable. like new PTC sites seems like very good but only have less then 10 links a day. and min payout is too high like $5. if that is case if I am unable to delete my account.

Or sometime I thought on the PTC site status saying top clicker been click like 58 links. after you login, you only find less then 15 links. and site has high min payout. or only points link is avilable, and point is worthless. like maybe a point is worth only 0.001 cent and payout is too high, then what is point to do anything about it.

if above is the case, what is point to worth your time to delete your account.

or any site just have too many ptp links and pay equal or less then 0.01 cent. even owner are honest. but to reach a dollar just impossible. if you don't click for 10 days of your time to get a dollar is just not worth it.

besides, as getting better on forex trading. what is point just to get few dollars within a month if you do not have a referral at all.

I do it on CC site's, as i'm not likely to click, but might be promoting stuff and need the account for stats(somedays tell the owners that, but yet some accounts still get deleted)

I be 100% honest I not clicking much these days why make 5 cents when could easily make $15-25 in that same hour doing my own stuff.

I also stopped as I was spending so much at few was clicking why do it when can just spend same amount at bigger more effective sites.

When they pay 5-25 cents a click I click again otherwise best for me to do my stuff as I know I get paid.

surfing SaS and talking to you... I tend to surd Share ad Space(make like $.15-.30/daily) while waiting on doing other things, or while talking to people. Thats gotta be why I'm in the top 10 alot there.

But I surf a few sites to see what's new in the market place too.

i know some people sign up just for your bonus. otherwise i guess the site that you recommended is not good for them. they can't earn more money. hope it's useful for you.

Might it also be the hype we see in the advertising of a particular site and when we get there we realise it's not quite what we thought it would be?

You see boasts of links of up to 2 cents a click, so you go join, but when you get there the "2 cent" clicks are all gone, and in their place are links worth 0.0001 cents

l don't bother clicking those, either LOL
And if, when l go back and still find rubbish values, l just walk away for good - admittedly, it's only happened a couple of times in my case ....... and now l think about it, l didn't bother deleting my accounts either.

l never worry about inactives from the downline builder here, though, cos usually once the system has removed them, everyone moves up a level, and you end up with an active referral after all


Edited to correct my spelling

Some just join out of curious or hoping they can get rich fast then they become disappointed and left after seeing how the program work. For downline builder it get more frustrated when there's only 1 referral level and your direct referral is inactive while he/she can still get to enjoy the benefit of the next one who sign up next

I was also thinking of the advertiser not telling the whole truth. Then surprise, surprise after you join, it is not that way at all.

Some people are not active because they have built downlines to earn for them.I've signed up for a program and discovered that I dont like the program or its owner so Im inactive till I get paid,then I'll quit.also, a lot of people have so many programs that they forget to click.

At any rate,I dont let ref activity bother because any link that click (other than a cheat link) is a bonus for me.

if you decide to go inactive in order to get paid there is a problem with that idea. 9 out of 10 sites require to get paid you have to be active. So you are only hurting yourself there. As for people forgetting to click that is something that can happen as I know I forgot to many times. I figure it this way ref come and ref go but as long as I am clicking myself i am making money.

I dont go completely inactive,I do the required clicks to get paid....period.

That is why you should always check out any program before you join it. Check it out in the forums and don't take just one persons work for it.

It is a disappointment but I try not to let it get to me because I have ended up not liking a site because it takes way to long just to earn a few cents. I did give the program a good chance before deleting my membership. I've had a couple sign up through the downline builder that didn't click anything. I was getting more irritated when I work my behind off trying to promote and not getting any sign ups at all. Now I'm finally getting a couple of active members in my downline so I feel it's starting to pay off. I guess it's all hit or miss.

Oh I do believe me. I have just seen some whoppers in emails about programs. I am only a member of 1 or 2 email programs. I got tired of it all and quit everything. I am very choosy about what I join.

Yes and no .......

"People" post in forums, "people" have their own opinion of what is good and what is not so good.
What suits "people" might not suit you.


Say, for example, l start a paid to read programme and want lots of members - l would contact a big advertiser and ask him/her to launch the programme on the forums for me.

ln the process, l would expect them to sing the praises of my programme, even though they know nothing about the thing because it is new.

Can you take the word of that big advertiser that my programme is going to be a good one?

Or should you wait a bit to find out what other people think?

lf you read any advertisement for a programme, should you take the advertisers word for it?
And then advertise it yourself, knowing you will find it quite easy to get a downline because it is new and everyone will want to get on the bandwagon and in turn get their own downline.

lf you wait a while before you join, you might miss the opportunity of a "quick" downline.

Sometimes, it's just better to go in and see for yourself.
Don't be afraid to give it a go, and make up your own mind about something.

lf you decide it is a good one (and by that, l mean one which suits YOU personally), you will stick to it as long as it lasts - l've been a member of some programs since the day they started, and years later l'm still there

lf you decide the site is not for you, you will work that one out soon enough and walk away from it.

And that can often be one of the reasons for inactivity directly after sign-up - the member has realised that the programme isn't quite what they had hoped it would be.



Of course there is also the problem of inactivity weeks/months later .....

Unfortunately, there is no crystal ball to tell us which will be good, and which not so good.
Equally, there is no way of knowing what unfortunate circumstances may affect a programme and cause it to falter or go astray.

Sometimes we just have to give it a go, and hope for the best

Oh ok, i thought you meant you stopped all together. I misunderstood sorry.

That is a whole 'nother thread in itself. If you worked at an off-line job, you would expect to get paid for the work you had done. Whether you stay with the job or not. No one expects people to work for nothing - except in PTR.

Once you have done the work, you should be paid even if you haven't clicked in 2 years. What is owed is owed. Period.

If I have a site that is not paying and there is not a really good explanation as to why they are not paying, I go straight into the minimum activity requirement. What is the point of continuing to click in the hopes that you might get paid a buck 3 years from now.

I just joined some sites last week and haven't been too active due to computer problems. There are other reasons why new sign-ups are inactive...trying to keep their computers running after getting hit with all the malware, viruses, and trojans out there. I'm running Norton AV, McAfee firewall, McAfee guardian, a popup stopper and using FireFox browser with Java script disabled, cookies set for original site only, no popups, and no downloads for sites, but yet crap still sneaks onto my computer. I sure would like to know how to stop it, getting real tired of F-disking my computer and taking 3 days to reload all of my programs. Open for suggestions, other than stay offline, LOL. Also have all the windows security updates, I give up.

unless you paid for the referrals it doesn't hurt you when they go inactive. it's up to them if they want to active or not. i think most people join and decide its not for them and they go inactive.

oh, also, compare with real job and ptr.

for ptr you still need to paid hydro bill. therefore if the link is less then 0.25 cent is totally not worth it for your time.

Waste of time? I don't wait to be deleted, I just forget the website and never login again... It would be a waste of time to delete the account. I don't really see any issues with this, the webmaster will be deleting in actives anyway.

The problem is you have to register to so many sites with stuff like this and then you forget about them...

how would you know if it's your downline that's not active, maybe they are but the P-owner cheats you on ref earnings.