Jsh
Apr 20 2007, 05:54 PM
Sorry, posting is not worth the repercussion.
I sincerely hope adbux works well for all of you.
MenaC
Apr 20 2007, 06:02 PM
With all due respect, Josh... there is no conclusive evidence that it's the same people as Netbux. Wouldn't it be wiser to ask them who they are before jumping to conclusions?
I agree with you that members should proceed with caution though as the programme seems fragile. If I were them, I wouldn't be spending money promoting it until I felt certain it was stable.
Btw, I am a member but I do not promote it because it doesn't seem stable to me. I also didn't feel comfortable being in a programme without knowing who owned it. I did ask the question though but evidently they aren't ready to give a reply to it just yet. The only thing I did get is an email with the name Tyler as a signature
Jsh
Apr 20 2007, 06:26 PM
Sorry, posting is not worth the repercussion.
I sincerely hope adbux works well for all of you.
jjohnson777
Apr 20 2007, 06:50 PM
There enough here to let me know to not click. I lost by buying refs from him in netbux.
Good thing for me I am too buy now a days to buy much or join many sites.
themom1955
Apr 20 2007, 06:58 PM
Well I am already sick of all the ads I've seen for this site....and here's why....
Just curious, didn't anyone read the TOS page before they joined??
QUOTE
iii. We have the right to suspend or terminate your account at any time, for any reason and without warning or notice. If we decide to give a notice, we will notify you by e-mail.
No way, no how will I ever join this site....when they can terminate your account so easily - and nothing you can do to protest it either - since you agree to the TOS of a site when you sign up.
MenaC
Apr 20 2007, 07:21 PM
QUOTE(Jsh @ Apr 20 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]4679512[/snapback]
Thanks for responding, MenaC.

One thing, though, is that I never said there was conclusive evidence regarding who the owner is. I said there is "a fair amount of information pointing" to him or someone with a relationship with him, but whether it is the same person or not, what matters more is how the program is run.
I don't think it's fair to simply ask the owner to say who he is. The reason I use "Chad French" in quotes is because it was determined afterward that he had actually stolen someone else's identity (I think it was a local pastor). Not
only was he lying about who he was, but he had (to the best of our knowledge) pinned the blame on someone else. That's just one of the more severe reminders that simply asking someone isn't going to necessarily give you the answer.
Had whoever this is, "Chad" or otherwise, built the program in a better way, claims about his indentity might not be taken as seriously. That doesn't mean it wouldn't have been "Chad" or a buddy, but even if it were, perhaps no one would have known. With the program being what it is, though, the possible ownership problem is only one of the issues at hand, IMO.
Josh
I'm sorry if my post sounded like you were saying there was conclusive evidence. I just meant we should have conclusive evidence before entering the Netbux connection in the equation. But ... you are right to make the comparisons and wonder if there is a connection. I was hoping more people would investigate further before investing money in AdBux as no one should go into something blind. Your post at least opens the discussion and perhaps makes people realize that danger may lie ahead. Hopefully the awareness factor will make people proceed with extreme caution. I certainly hope people that read this don't go spending money on buying the refs they are selling at AdBux. Just the fact that they are selling them so cheap seems to send smoke signals.
swtgrl4321
Apr 20 2007, 07:32 PM
I have been looking for more PTR and/or PTP to join, and when I read about Adbux I was intrigued. It does seem a tad too good to be true. I am sooooo at a loss about where to join. I did want to pay for an upgrade somewhere, too, but I don't think I'll do that at Adbux. Makes me nervous.
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 20 2007, 08:13 PM
I joined this site under ssink the other day and there were hardly no ads to click by the time I got there today.
make_a_move
Apr 20 2007, 08:31 PM
It's to obvious how the site is setup to fail but in the beginning members get paid and i'm gonna click until I get to $5 then quit because I already knew how the site was designed.
Sakuragi
Apr 20 2007, 10:37 PM
Who can forget the infamous netbux?
cubster
Apr 20 2007, 10:45 PM
There are also at least two threads at this forum where members have stated the top players in adbux are the people from netbux. Ik I better clarify that it is actually the same member in two threads. Perhaps I am just adding fuel to the fire but members should be aware that this site will probably crash very soon.
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 21 2007, 07:53 AM
Thanks Cubster and Josh for the warning. Am going to unsub from this one as I am not going to waste my time on a possible scam especially if it is associated with the netbux crew.
Sorry Shirley.
jjohnson777
Apr 21 2007, 07:57 AM
Question is should site owners allow ads for this site? Should we send admin to our members warning them that this site is almost guarnteed to become a scam in few months unless they make needed changes?
maarie
Apr 21 2007, 08:01 AM
who cares who the owner is. if you have a decent amount of refs you can get payout every day so you never have more than $5 or 1 days clicking to loose.
I request payout almost every day and as I have already had 23,72 paid i am making a big profit for as long as they exist.
themom1955
Apr 21 2007, 08:09 AM
QUOTE(jjohnson777 @ Apr 21 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]4679765[/snapback]
Question is should site owners allow ads for this site? Should we send admin to our members warning them that this site is almost guarnteed to become a scam in few months unless they make needed changes?
Some already have sent out admin messages with links to threads here as well as GPTB
priestes
Apr 21 2007, 08:13 AM
QUOTE(maarie @ Apr 21 2007, 07:01 AM) [snapback]4679767[/snapback]
who cares who the owner is. if you have a decent amount of refs you can get payout every day so you never have more than $5 or 1 days clicking to loose.
I request payout almost every day and as I have already had 23,72 paid i am making a big profit for as long as they exist.
You should care or doesn't it matter as long as you earn? who cares about the rest who might be dupped as long as you get paid?
Honest sites care. Sites like this hurt the whole industry. Everyone should care. But I see it to many times it is about how much one can make and me me me with some.. Sad but one should care cause in the long run it hurts everyone.
jjohnson777
Apr 21 2007, 08:24 AM
I care as signs are clear to me and others that this is a potential scam in the making. So people need to be warned so they do not send them money. I am lucky in that I rarely have time to click so I not lose anything when they do close.
cybertongue
Apr 21 2007, 01:06 PM
QUOTE(priestes @ Apr 21 2007, 07:13 AM) [snapback]4679773[/snapback]
You should care or doesn't it matter as long as you earn? who cares about the rest who might be dupped as long as you get paid?
Honest sites care. Sites like this hurt the whole industry. Everyone should care. But I see it to many times it is about how much one can make and me me me with some.. Sad but one should care cause in the long run it hurts everyone.
That's exactly what I was going to say... It's all well and good when a program is paying, but it hurts the non-builders who get roped in thinking that they can make an easy buck, just to have the program fall apart before they can get theirs.
Debby369
Apr 22 2007, 06:38 AM
QUOTE(maarie @ Apr 21 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]4679767[/snapback]
who cares who the owner is. if you have a decent amount of refs you can get payout every day so you never have more than $5 or 1 days clicking to loose.
I request payout almost every day and as I have already had 23,72 paid i am making a big profit for as long as they exist.
WOW!!! Are you serious? We all should care because if this is true they are stealing from every member and bringing down the industry with this crap.
So you make $5 a day while the owner is stealing $100 a day and ruining it for those who are running honest sites.
Maybe you weren't thinking of the downside to this ...
I hope you understand now why you should not support a site that is taking people for a ride where at the end of that ride you are beaten and robbed.
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 22 2007, 09:50 AM
I sent Admin a message to cancel my account because of the warnings here and elsewhere and got a reply stating they are not a scam and have paid well over $3,000.00 , with payouts to continue.
One day I had 26 cents after clicking and then the next it was down to 21 cents.

I had received all $$$ signs too after each click so I would be careful of this site. Sooooo glad I left.
cubster
Apr 22 2007, 01:39 PM
Ok I just clicked on an ad at adbux The global domains international ad that shows at the moment that shows under business and money as the sixth ad and the referers name is Chad French
Im too dumb to do a screen shot so I will just post this
Contact your sponsor and introduce yourself! The person who referred you to GDI is Chad French. Email Chad after you have signed up for free, and ask how to get started right away!
I believe that Chad French was the owner of Netbux.
Jsh
Apr 22 2007, 02:06 PM
Sorry, posting is not worth the repercussion.
I sincerely hope adbux works well for all of you.
kmitch84
Apr 22 2007, 02:19 PM
Why do you all bash new sites? So what if this guy scammed once? Maybe he has had a change of heart and is operating honestly now. You all seem to think because a site offers 1c a click it is unsustainable and therefore must be a fraud. If a site has 18,000+ members already, I would think that is pretty sustainable. So quit your bashing and give it a chance.
jjohnson777
Apr 22 2007, 02:21 PM
That is enough proof for me. I already had enough to know not to waste time clicking, promoting, or buying. Soon people be complaining when they pull a runner when they failed to listen to us pros who been scammed so many times that we know the bad signs to look for.
cybertongue
Apr 22 2007, 02:26 PM
QUOTE(kmitch84 @ Apr 22 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]4680478[/snapback]
Why do you all bash new sites? So what if this guy scammed once? Maybe he has had a change of heart and is operating honestly now. You all seem to think because a site offers 1c a click it is unsustainable and therefore must be a fraud. If a site has 18,000+ members already, I would think that is pretty sustainable. So quit your bashing and give it a chance.
So because a program can attract 18,000 greedy people, that somehow means it's sustainable?

Sustainability has to do with the financial aspects of a program - incoming revenue vs. outgoing expenses. If anything, more members means more unsustainability for the program. It certainly doesn't work the opposite way, though.
Jsh
Apr 22 2007, 02:29 PM
Sorry, posting is not worth the repercussion.
I sincerely hope adbux works well for all of you.
crankypants
Apr 22 2007, 02:30 PM
QUOTE(kmitch84 @ Apr 22 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]4680478[/snapback]
Why do you all bash new sites? So what if this guy scammed once? Maybe he has had a change of heart and is operating honestly now. You all seem to think because a site offers 1c a click it is unsustainable and therefore must be a fraud. If a site has 18,000+ members already, I would think that is pretty sustainable. So quit your bashing and give it a chance.
Just because a site has a large member count doesn't mean it is sustainable. Everyone knows how hard it is to get advertisers...and if it was as easy to offer sustainable 1 cent links don't you think more sites would be doing it? I don't believe anyone is bashing this site...some are trying to be cautiously optimistic while others don't want to take that chance. Its a personal preference on what each member wants to do. But if Chad French is behind Ad Bux then before he is given another chance he should pay all the members from his previous site that he scammed out of earnings.
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 22 2007, 02:45 PM
I am lost.
Was Chad French the owner of Netbux who did a runner and scammed people or am I confused again?
jjohnson777
Apr 22 2007, 02:47 PM
He is the owner of that site.
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 22 2007, 02:57 PM
Was he also the owner of Netbux?
priestes
Apr 22 2007, 03:07 PM
QUOTE(RBNLOVESPOH @ Apr 22 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]4680509[/snapback]
Was he also the owner of Netbux?
Yes Rbn he was the owner of netbux.
Jsh
Apr 22 2007, 03:08 PM
Sorry, posting is not worth the repercussion.
I sincerely hope adbux works well for all of you.
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 22 2007, 07:32 PM
cajunlady
Apr 22 2007, 07:49 PM
If all of this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, then I am truly shocked at some of the prominent members of this forum who are promoting this program.
priestes
Apr 22 2007, 07:53 PM
QUOTE(cajunlady @ Apr 22 2007, 06:49 PM) [snapback]4680622[/snapback]
If all of this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, then I am truly shocked at some of the prominent members of this forum who are promoting this program.

Most folks had no idea who owned this program till Josh posted relevant info. So really not so shocked that folks would be promoting it?
cajunlady
Apr 22 2007, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(priestes @ Apr 22 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]4680624[/snapback]
Most folks had no idea who owned this program till Josh posted relevant info. So really not so shocked that folks would be promoting it?
That may be true but let's see what happens in the next couple of days. Will they still be promoting it? It will be interesting to see wouldn't you say?
jjohnson777
Apr 22 2007, 08:01 PM
I never promoted it as I had doubts if would be good program. I only promote sites I thank are good and honest. Might be why I do not promote many. Tired of joining scams so only promote my own sites.
priestes
Apr 22 2007, 08:19 PM
QUOTE(cajunlady @ Apr 22 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]4680626[/snapback]
That may be true but let's see what happens in the next couple of days. Will they still be promoting it? It will be interesting to see wouldn't you say?
Yes it will be interesting but some just plain don't seem to care anymore. Sadly
liadin
Apr 22 2007, 09:54 PM
QUOTE(priestes @ Apr 22 2007, 10:19 PM) [snapback]4680634[/snapback]
Yes it will be interesting but some just plain don't seem to care anymore. Sadly

Priestes from what I have been reading lately, they care. It is what they care about that baffles me. They care about what they can get no matter who else gets hurt. Too many people forget that there are real people involved.
It gets so old seeing the usual tripe. "but he/she/they pay", "the link values are worth the time", "I will wait and see if they pay", "why are [acronym="meant in the general sense not a specific person"]you[/acronym] so negative", "maybe they have learned their lesson", etc. etc. etc.
How anyone could promote this program is beyond my comprehension. As soon as it became common knowledge people should have stopped promoting and clicking at the site. I often wonder if the people who promote these sites would lean down and pick up a penny from the ground. They seem to be willing to do anything for the almighty penny.
When someone asks me if the paid to industry is dying, I usually respond with only the honest part. Look at how many members the site in question has gotten in the last few days. Why don't the honest hardworking program owners get that kind of response?
This thread has left me wondering when it came to be that morals and ethics could be bought for pennies.
For those of you working to expose scammers and bad sites keep up the good work!
Lia
starplanet
Apr 22 2007, 10:25 PM
QUOTE(kmitch84 @ Apr 22 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]4680478[/snapback]
Why do you all bash new sites? So what if this guy scammed once? Maybe he has had a change of heart and is operating honestly now. You all seem to think because a site offers 1c a click it is unsustainable and therefore must be a fraud. If a site has 18,000+ members already, I would think that is pretty sustainable. So quit your bashing and give it a chance.
I think too many have been there, done that, seen it, and don't want to do it again.
If he has to hide his identity, he knows he did something wrong.
jjohnson777
Apr 22 2007, 10:37 PM
We will give him a chance when he pays all the people he scammed in past. If he did not know better first time he deffently should know that this can not work for anyone but him and lucky first big downline builders. I could of promoted it and enjoyed few hundred dollars but I only promote sites I beleive will be around in 6 months to year and this site will be lucky to make 3 months.
CreationClicks
Apr 22 2007, 10:45 PM
One interesting (and quite clever) thing i've noticed about this site is the countdown timer doesn't start until AFTER the advertisement's page has finished loading. Now if you are on dialup like me, that can sometimes mean you are hanging around for ages waiting for the site to load! BUT, if you've been waiting around for awhile and you don't want to wait any longer, pressing stop on your browser will 'force' the timer to start counting down immediately!
cybertongue
Apr 23 2007, 01:14 AM
QUOTE(cajunlady @ Apr 22 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]4680626[/snapback]
That may be true but let's see what happens in the next couple of days. Will they still be promoting it? It will be interesting to see wouldn't you say?
Of course they will... The argument here is going to be that a site is paying higher without the use of search ads, so it must be okay. And then they'll all want our sympathy when it all falls apart leaving them unpaid.
davidbugs
Apr 23 2007, 07:04 AM
Davidbugs will join the sites for fun. So far I got 1.33
5.00 dollars Countdown is coming soon.
3.67 to go Until I get paid. davidbugs will take the money and run as soon possible.
If I didn't get paid that ok because I'm really bored.
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 23 2007, 08:41 AM
QUOTE(davidbugs @ Apr 23 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]4680833[/snapback]
Davidbugs will join the sites for fun. So far I got 1.33
5.00 dollars Countdown is coming soon.
3.67 to go Until I get paid. davidbugs will take the money and run as soon possible.
If I didn't get paid that ok because I'm really bored.

David imo that is not a good reason to support a site/owner that has scammed in the past.

eta: I know I have done this in the past but I have learned to check out sites alot better now before joining.
disneypluto
Apr 23 2007, 08:50 AM
I emailed the owner of AdBux yesterday asking the owner's name and where he was from. I got an email reply this morning that said, " My name is Tyler and I'm from the US."
priestes
Apr 23 2007, 08:53 AM
QUOTE(disneypluto @ Apr 23 2007, 07:50 AM) [snapback]4680870[/snapback]
I emailed the owner of AdBux yesterday asking the owner's name and where he was from. I got an email reply this morning that said, " My name is Tyler and I'm from the US."

Yeah I sent an email once to new owner of PTbid auction and he told me he was someone else too but ended up someone who has scammed a lot of people too.
MenaC
Apr 23 2007, 09:01 AM
QUOTE(RBNLOVESPOH @ Apr 23 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]4680861[/snapback]
David imo that is not a good reason to support a site/owner that has scammed in the past.

eta: I know I have done this in the past
but I have learned to check out sites alot better now before joining.Have you checked out FaeriesAndFantasy before joining?
http://getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?s...antasy&st=0
sheridans
Apr 23 2007, 09:04 AM
only time will tell!
RBNLOVESPOH
Apr 23 2007, 09:09 AM
QUOTE(MenaC @ Apr 23 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]4680879[/snapback]
Yes, I have checked that thread. I was one of the ones who alerted Kim to the thread. Also it was not her program anymore when it disappeared.

eta: this thread is about adbux not faeriesandfantasy or me
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