Back in early 2007 I begged WIW to remove Ad Jungle and put a banner roator up as it was slowing down my computer since then it gotten worse rederecting me off forum and making it so long post fail.

Now they mad at me for talking about it here thanking I was unbanned here as payment for bashing that forum.

Well guess I be leaving that forum soon as falling in love with this one. Admin here seem to be faster removing bad stuff.

Effective immediately ex admin of this forum and WIW SJ been fired from all my sites as site helper.

I changed admin passwords at the sites.

I like to offciailly say sorry for bad things ever said about this forum and admin of this forum.

Sure I be banned at WIW soon.

Jeffrey Johnson

The problems you claim to have with the Adjungle banners have not been reproducable by anyone and many have spent hours trying to reproduce it. I believe that you have a piece of spyware or greyware on your PC causing your problems. You refused to consider that possibility when we spoke earlier. The browser you use is very vulnerable and if you intend to stick with it you will need to scan thoroughly frequently or you will continue to have issues.

JJ,

I certainly don't dislike you. But...

When you have a problem with one forum, don't bring it to another forum, especially not one, which cannot stand the other one. And you know what I mean: there is no lost love between admins of this forum vs admins of wiw.

Each forum have their good days and low points and, in case you forgot, last week this forum was full of trojans and in denial too for a while.

So, in conclusion, having you as a member (once again) here, is for me a pleasure. But... you should fix that problem you seem to have with wiw by opening a discussion with wiw over at wiw forum.

End of my advice and welcome back.

Ad Jungle is known for redirecting but that does not matter.

I was about to get over the issue until SJ had to challenge my honor to make me more mad then was.

I be making a new site soon to let people know how I feel.

I bet 65% of people online use one type of IE or another so all IE users need to stop using what they know and trust just so WIW doesnt have to stop making money from an affiliate site that has been known to redirect on other PTR sites and forums so its not just WIW and its not just my PC.

I only use IE to go to forums and open Yahoo Mail and work on my sites. Everything else use Firefox or Netscape.

Forums should be free of garbage.

Just to clarify WIW did not refuse to remove any banners, only one member is having problems so we investigated and asked if it may be geo targetted and we may not be seeing it. Other people from the US are reporting they are not having any problems.
If anyone does experience any problems with the forum then please do contact a member of staff for help.

I use IE and I have had alot of issues with Adjungle it seams to be one of the new aff programs PTR has sunk its teeth into. I remember a few sites it would redirect every new ptc you would go to was a huge pain in the hinny.

Its in my host file now but it still doesnt stop all redirects.

I think that forum-bashing and admin of forums bashing is pretty much counter productive. As stated above, all forums have good points and bad points. Hopefully, all responsible parties will constantly work to improve the forums they support.

Internal problems should remain within the forum involved, IMHO.

To notify of problems via another forum is usually ok as long as there is no bashing involved.

SINCE THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT A GET PAID TO PROGRAM, IT IS MOVING TO CHIT CHAT

So we're having the discussion about banners at wiw here? Alllllllright then!

I to use IE and won't change it, not for a forum, not for an admin, not for anybody. When I go to wiw, I have had problems, which now I do understand why, although I blamed my problems on the banners not knowing I was right, which are bigger than necessary, are sometimes in my opinion vulgar..., you get the drift. I understand it's a necessary evil as no forum can subsist on love only. So, I put up with it. That is to say though, that no, JJ is not the only one. FYI: you don't have to be logged in to have problems with some banners.

So, all in all, there's a problem, which might not be affecting the majority of the members of wiw (who to my knowledge don't use IE), but it's no reason to treat a member of that forum like he's the one who caused the problem. Lots of ways to solve a problem, but blaming the member isn't the right way.

Six hours trying to reproduce the problem in an effort to pinpoint it so it could be addressed is hardly blaming the member. I'm sorry if that sounds snarky or unfeeling but while I was looking for the problem I was also being given ultimatums and threats.

We are not blaming the member, I stated that only one member experienced it that we are aware of and we investigated and we are still looking into it. Now I am quite willing to answer any questions over at the forum and so will other admins/mods. I wont post in this thread anymore to save misunderstandings. If anyone has any questions then feel free to PM me or to post in the active thread at WIW or PM a mod or admin at the forum.

Not much different than the discussion that has been going on over there about the trojan stuff here at GPF...

You're right Cyber, not much different.

When I stated that some at wiw have been blaming JJ, I was naturally referring to him being told that it must his infected PC. Might be, mind you, but it's not IMO the way to deal with a member's problem. And may I add that JJ referred to this problem has being happening since the "beginning of 2007". Hardly 6 hours, a day, or even a week ago. So, JJ did show restrain in this case, didn't he?

If some of you are so sure that it's his PC, then maybe a link or two to good trojan detectors (good for IE I mean) would have been of help in JJ's case. How about a question or two about his IE home page? (IE experts will know what I mean). JJ might not be an easy member for any forum (no insult meant JJ), and he usually wants today's problem solved, like yesterday. In his case, if I take his word, this has been going on for months with him contacting Xena (others ?) without any resolve so far.

I know that there are some experts at wiw (2k, wagdoll, strolly to name a few) who can certainly solve this without the "we did what we could (or would) and that's it, now it's your problem" attitude which seems to be of rage all over forums and PTRs for quite a while now.

JJ is being JJ, that's all. He has a problem, he wants it fixed and tomorrow is too late. What's the diff with the JJ of 2 days ago? None, except most of you weren't aware that he had a problem with banners (or so he states) over at wiw.

I too have problems with banners at wiw, so does RR (read her post). Not that I notify wiw admins though. I dealt with it and it's not an infected PC. Doesn't change a thing for JJ though and for how many more who didn't PM Xena or another admin at wiw? You know it's like when there's a problem with this forum, not everyone experiencing the problem will post or PM admins of this forum, not even many. Maybe a few, depends on the problem.

IMO, it's not because only one posted or PMed that he has a problem with the banners, that it automatically means it's his PC (his problem). Might be, might not.

I haven't had any problem with re-directing, personally, but I suspect that it's because I use Firefox and this appears to be an IE issue.

I do, on the other hand, have a problem with some of the content being displayed in the banners at the top of the forum. I frequently have my 4 year old sitting on my lap while I'm online and she doesn't need to be seeing barely-clothed women, and certainly not the occasional full frontal nudity that comes up on those banners.

No, I didn't bring it up to the powers-that-be over there. I just went through and refreshed the page over and over again, adblocking as I went, until nothing new rotated in. Seemed to me to be a much easier solution to the problem.

My problem of few motnhs ago was adult ads that were shown. Happy I am not losing my mind with the probelms as people at WIW would have me beleive. I asked for help in my way and when got none I came here hopping since bigger forum someone would have ideas. In end person get server from telling me to use http://housecall.trendmicro.com

Jeffrey Johnson

Located. A geotargetted filler Adjungle is using in rotation. Will be resolved as soon as possible.

ETA: It's gone now.

You could try blocking it by using aj.adjungle in your restricted sites. That is what AdMuncher blocks with and I see no banners at all on WIW. You might have to play around with it for IE restricted with wildcard/s

I have to say that adjungle has been causing me problems at wiw also. I just never complained about it. I use firefox, and at certain times my browser will completely freeze, and I have been redirected off the forum on several occassions. I just don't complain about hardly anything, so I've never reported it.

I've noticed some bad ads in adjungle in the past, but not only running in the banner rotator at who's who, they were also running on other sites with adjungle. When I reported them to who's who admin, they contacted adjungle and it seemed to be fixed from what I could tell.

Just like PTP pages can have bad things put into their rotators, the ad networks are no different. It happens sometimes and all you can do is try to let them know and see how willing they are to deal with it. Adjungle seemed quite willing to deal with it, and it wasn't a case of things they were coding in the banners themselves like some bad networks will do.

The people at WIW still blaming me for my problems. They did not like me threating them yesterday but after waiting 3 months for them to follow my nice ways of getting changes I just could not be nice any more. Old me would of been mean from start but now I try to be nice when ask first few times.

They accusing me of liking Sophie so I go ahead and say I liking her more more. She super nice and wish did not listen to all the bad stories from few ex-admins here and all the people they brainwashed at there forum.

I never fault I say I love GPF but admit I do now. I never thought I say I like Sophie but I do now.

I am looking for parential control software as we speak so I can block all forums but my own so I can stay out of them and work on my sites and my clients sites.

If have to go to other computers to see forums figure I do it less often.

And yes today is my birthday. I am 28 (about my 26th time being 2 maybe this time I will grow up).

Jeffrey Johnson

You are the one who is responsible for the vast majority of your problems, you just have fun blaming everyone else for them. I am not talking about bad ads, but about your attitude and behaviour, which is what you are being blamed for.

If today is your birthday, why not go round trying to make people happy and then you can share in that with them? You would find that is a nicer, more long-term way to make 'you' happy than being vindictive and stirring up trouble and getting temporary kicks from that.

I tried going about it the nice way but saw repated post about Ad Jungle being ignored so figured I had to be mean to get anything done. At first it happened very rarely but for past few days it been driving me nuts.

Did not help when I thought the admins were removing most my posts so I probably little on mean side for that too.

Jeffrey Johnson

If we get reports we take these things seriously and we took your posts seriously yesterday and looked into it and removed the redirects that were found and we are still checking for anymore. You have my IM but not once have you ever mentioned to me that you had problems with the forum.
You accused us of removing your posts I explained to you twice that none of your posts were removed and one other mod explained your posts werent removed and we asked for more details of what you was experiencing to try to find out what the problem was. If that is not taking you seriously and trying to solve the problem then I dont know what else you expect us to do.
When interptr experienced problems with steal artois I Pm ed you to let you know so that you was aware of the problem.
I guess we got to learn this is PTR and people will turn on you in an instance if it means they get more members and make more sales for their sites.

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. The virus that has affected people's minds is far worse than any that has affected a computer...

Off Topic:

Happy Birthday, JJ

Back to your regularly scheduled conversation.

I deceded to open my mind on everyone judged in pass if they or me wrong about Sophie who knows who else wrong about. I started talking to Clay few days ago and he seems nice. I did have a bad opinion of him due to por experence with sites he used to host being slow. Super nice person though. His wife is super nice too.

I will not mention all the others done this with too. But been a good experence. I also re thought my friends list and starting to notice some my friends are not true friends they spread things tell them in private to others.

Guess I have to stop gossiping to people even thought love doing it.

While some viewed this as bad experence I viewed it as a great learning experence to open my mind.

I even starting to find I liking Canadians and Europeans. Opening mind can be a good thing.

Guess I never get to hear SJ sing in his awsome Scotish accent again or hear them nice ladies with there British accent. Oh well.

I also miss Rod talking and bashing me. I had some the best laughts trying to give him fresh material to use against me.

Too bad Rod maried he used to get the ladies going with his humor.

Maybe I meet new and better friends here to bad I not have as much time to chat as used too.