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bulldog10
Is it "right" for program owners to offer incentives (cash, referrals, gold memberships) to members who post favorably about their programs?


This is a direct quote by fryskys2001:

"to FILLMYTACCOUNT MEMBER
This is what the owner of fillmyaccount has ask me ot post to you all and now I told you all she was fair to poeple who knew how to be patient and give her a chance 2 person in fma were rewarded for having stand by her and receive 2 referal plus a gold memebrship for life now you all eat your toast
quote from evelyn turner:
turner28: TO ALL FILL MY ACCOUNT MEMBERS WHO QUIT THE PROGRAM
turner28: and WHO DEMANDED that I drop EVERYTHING and correct the problem
turner28: I think YOU OWE the members of 1st Profit a serious apology since I had to stop working on their accounts to correct yours
.turner28: I have not yet decided what that reward will be - however - I am considering giving EACH member 4 FREE REFERRALS in addition to their $2.00 bonus
turner28: I think the members of 1st profit have been very patient and not jumped down my throat they way fma did and so they shall be rewarded for it"

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http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread...10323#post10323
bulldog10
41 people viewed, 6 voted.. it's 3 to 3.. c'mon, say how you feel aa.gif
Just Me
I voted YES! It's perfectly fine to receive 'payola' for speaking highly of a website or webmaster/mistress. It's their site to do with as they want and if they want to delete people because of cheating, add referrals to downlines for clicking contests or extra cash as an incentive for anything else they choose, then that is okay with me. It's their site and they make the rules.

Now, where is my 'payola'? ad.gif
lexiekinz
I voted no , because if I understand what you're trying to show here ..... it's never right to falsify information or to encourage such -- just to be in some way compensated . Or to "punish" other members because they had a managable program "need" that wasn't being met . I can think of some not so flattering names for these folks , both giver and receiver , but I'll refrain from sharing those :c)

Now , if one gives a truthful report in order to share their good experence(s) they had with a program and is rewarded by the wm for that , then that's just a nice happenstance and I would have voted yes .

Which did you mean bulldog ? The 1st , 2nd or just any way period ?
lelliott69
Voted yes. Its their site they can offer whatever they want. Doesn't mean I'll go for it though. Would have to be real good payola. LOL
Lilithsong
Absolutely not!



It is not right to award the few that stand to gain the most anyway...the ones that can be paid now from my and others earnings that she kept.
bulldog10
QUOTE (lexiekinz @ May 3 2003, 11:49 PM)
I voted no , because if I understand what you're trying to show here ..... it's never right to falsify information just to be in some way compensated . Or to "punish" other members because they had a managable program "need" that wasn't being met . I can think of some not so flattering names for these folks , both giver and receiver , but I'll refrain from sharing those :c)

Now , if one gives a truthful report in order to share their good experence(s) they had with a program and is rewarded by the wm for that , then that's just a nice happenstance and I would have voted yes .

Which did you mean bulldog ? The 1st , 2nd or just any way period ?


I meant the first, lexie, I agree, it's not right to be compensated for falsifying info, or to be rewarded for posting what you would not have except for that "carrot" that was dangled in your face.

Sorry if I worded this poorly, was not my intent aa.gif In spite of my ineptitude, you understood the point I was trying to make, thank you.. aa.gif
bulldog10
QUOTE (lelliott69 @ May 3 2003, 11:59 PM)
Voted yes.? Its their site they can offer whatever they want.? Doesn't mean I'll go for it though.? Would have to be real good payola.? LOL



I have a feeling it would have to be really, really, really good for you to go for it, lol .. not this bs ET is offering aa.gif
Just Me
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Is it "right" for program owners to offer incentives (cash, referrals, gold memberships) to members who post favorably about their programs?


bulldog10 asked if it is "right" for program owners... and then goes on to post about one owner. I took the question as it stands when asked if 'program owners' offer incentives and my opinion stands. YES, it is okay for program owners to offer incentives to their members if they so desire. It's still their site and they can do what they want.

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BLACKFROG9 Posted on May 3 2003, 09:00 PM
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Absolutely not!

Since it would cost her so much to "pay" people like me the few cents that she owed us and couldn't even do that.

It is not right to award the few that stand to gain the most anyway...the ones that can be paid now from my and others earnings that she kept.

Considering the average earnings for the site at that time,it wouldn't have killed her.


You are just picking on one WM when the question was 'program owners', plural, as in many owners. aa.gif
bulldog10
QUOTE (BLACKFROG9 @ May 4 2003, 12:00 AM)
Absolutely not!

Since it would cost her so much to "pay" people like me the few cents that she owed us and couldn't even do that.

It is not right to award the few that stand to gain the most anyway...the ones that can be paid now from my and others earnings that she kept.

Considering the average earnings for the site at that time,it wouldn't have killed her.

hey hey hey blackfrog !! I hadn't thought of that .. between you and I and about a bazillion others who quit her program after that unbelievably nasty email to womanfish she has lots of our dollars to offer, lol.. unscrupulous sob aa.gif
bulldog10
QUOTE (Just Me @ May 4 2003, 12:54 AM)
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Is it "right" for program owners to offer incentives (cash, referrals, gold memberships) to members who post favorably about their programs?


bulldog10 asked if it is "right" for program owners... and then goes on to post about one owner. I took the question as it stands when asked if 'program owners' offer incentives and my opinion stands. YES, it is okay for program owners to offer incentives to their members if they so desire. It's still their site and they can do what they want.

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BLACKFROG9 Posted on May 3 2003, 09:00 PM
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Absolutely not!

Since it would cost her so much to "pay" people like me the few cents that she owed us and couldn't even do that.

It is not right to award the few that stand to gain the most anyway...the ones that can be paid now from my and others earnings that she kept.

Considering the average earnings for the site at that time,it wouldn't have killed her.


You are just picking on one WM when the question was 'program owners', plural, as in many owners. aa.gif

Well, if you're going to take the question as it stands .. lol, why not put it right up front ??

Terms of joining a program:

Additional Member Benefit:

<< post favorably at gptboycott or any other forum and receive a gold membership >>
ppprk
QUOTE (bulldog10 @ May 3 2003, 03:35 PM)
Is it "right" for program owners to offer incentives (cash, referrals, gold memberships) to members who post favorably about their programs?

NO
SuperFly
She didn't pay them to get them to defend her - she rewarded for having stood by her during the whole problem. ac.gif

Voted YES.
bulldog10
QUOTE (SuperFly @ May 4 2003, 01:44 AM)
She didn't pay them to get them to defend her - she rewarded for having stood by her during the whole problem. ac.gif

Voted YES.

semantics aa.gif The end result is the same. She publicized that members were rewarded and why .. that speaks to support she is now trying to garner, YMMV, however:)
astrangemix
I voted "no". In my opinion to post a favourable comment about a program simply because you are being compensated in some way doesn't say much for your character not to mention you are being totally unfair to others who sign up because of your recommendation. I also would have no respect for a webmaster/webmistress who has to resort to such tactics. If their program is that bad that they have to pay members to praise it they should think about fixing things instead of asking members to lie.

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Just a little edit. It appears after reading all posts the question "posed" wasn't exactly as clear as the author intended so I would like to add that I see nothing wrong with webmasters/webmistresses rewarding members if they feel that member deserved a little extra for being an active clicker, advertising the program, writing a nice review, etc......... For me it all comes down to what the intentions are of the people involved. As for the specific case some in this thread have mentioned (of which I know little - never was a member of FMA) it does seem to have a tone of vindictiveness to in effect penalize all members who dared ask questions.
SuperFly
QUOTE (bulldog10 @ May 4 2003, 06:25 PM)
QUOTE (SuperFly @ May 4 2003, 01:44 AM)
She didn't pay them to get them to defend her - she rewarded for having stood by her during the whole problem. ac.gif

Voted YES.

semantics aa.gif The end result is the same. She publicized that members were rewarded and why .. that speaks to support she is now trying to garner, YMMV, however:)

I don't even know what that word means, LOL. ad.gif
ruby34
I voted no, because the whole point of this forum is to find the TRUTH about programs.

If someone posts favorably and then they are awarded AFTERWARDS (randomly), then thats different. sort of.

But the whole problem is determining if they posted from free will or knew they would rewarded for it.
Susy
I voted no, and most of my thoughts on this are reflected by astrangemix. Except I once belonged to FillHerPockets.

Rewarding active members randomly for various things is perfectly fine. Rewarding members for illicit purposes never results in anything good.

Who knows, maybe her guilt is overcoming her, or she's just lost her last stand on sanity. ae.gif

At any rate, she's going to do what she's going to do, right or wrong. As stated above, it's her site. I just wouldn't want to be a member in any of her programs. If my eyes crossed at her, she'd call me a cheat or whiner, and delete me...then spam me to death. ao.gif
astrangemix
QUOTE (sooozie @ May 4 2003, 02:37 AM)
Except I once belonged to FillHerPockets.

ROFL

Love that wit - glad I wasn't drinking when I read it

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bulldog10
QUOTE (ruby34 @ May 4 2003, 03:22 AM)
I voted no, because the whole point of this forum is to find the TRUTH about programs.

If someone posts favorably and then they are awarded AFTERWARDS (randomly), then thats different. sort of.

But the whole problem is determining if they posted from free will or knew they would rewarded for it.

I think you're right about motives aa.gif

One of ET's hired hands posted that people who were loyal to her would be rewared. Then came the email from ET asking/begging people to post on the gpt forum, complete with URL .. it stunk to high heaven
Calliope
I voted no

we have cheaters and scammers
hackers and spammers so lets add a bit of bribery to the pot huh?

I like to hear the truth about programs and if a program is genuinely a good program then people will write good things without the need for payment. Just take a wander through the Praise folder......

I agree that if a WM wishes to reward someone for their support then it is up to that WM but the question was "Is it "right" for program owners to offer incentives to members who post favorably about their programs?
bulldog10
You brought up a great point, calliope, actually, quite a few, lol

If I happen to meander over to a thread and sing the praises of a certain program and that program owner rewards me, wow, great aa.gif

But if I post good things because I know I'm going to get something from it, it sours the whole thing. We can then no longer read other's opinions and experiences in the same light. We'll have to ask, "Did they post that because they knew they were going to be rewarded, or because it was the truth as they knew it?"

*offer* is they key word, thanks for making that much more clear aa.gif
karlata
The first thing I think when I see a program try and bribe people to say nice things about them is "What's wrong with this program?"

Let's face it, if the program were good, there'd be plenty of people defending it when necessary, and extolling its virtues to newbies.

If the owner has to stoop to bribery to get this attention, then there's something seriously wrong with the program.

That's my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
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