Carey sold all of the what used to be the sugarbearenterprises sites to
Michelekar who in turn sold off one of them already, bestpaidemails4u.
Michele didn't allow the previous owners to pay the members. She also
hasn't as of yet told anyone, Bannerfox went back to its original owner.

List of sites sold first to Michele:
DCG,
Madams,
Bestpaid, (know already sold again)
Jerseydevils,
sugarcents,
destination-mails,
mesmerizing-mails 1,
mesmerizing-mails 2 ,
searchers-haven,
bigdaddys,
vickysclickers

mailearns was already properly sold and announced earlier this week

bannerfox went to the original owner

Was it just the sites/scripts sold? Or members, too? Without being paid under the old owner?

As far as I know the whole thing was sold.

The sites were sold off not just the scripts. Carey sold the sites and michele promptly locked carey and susan out. So the info was passed allready before members could get paid. Susan had started paying, even got though paying all dcgp members, but michele locked her out.

ok question here please

when the sites are all hosted on sues server and she has full site access how did i lock them out?

i paid carey for the sites last night and there was no mention of paying out members any further then a before the sale offer to do so.

if they wish to pay off all members then i will get with them when i see them come online and make arrangements for that as i have no problem with them paying all debt.

all of the sites have extremely low site debt. so i was not worried about that at all.

sites will continue with business as usual
except for 2 very important changes.

number 1 i am allowing all countries as members not limiting it

and number 2 there will be no paypal or egold fees to purchase ads

those are the only changes

I am curious why no one felt inclined to notify members that they were being sold.

It also seems strange why who was going to pay the members and how ....was not a top priority BEFORE the sale.Did you intend to pay them if the old owners did not.

Did you not think members should have been given the option to delete their info before the purchase?

Belle

That you can't demand to take over a site before people are paid out, and then after taking control, expect the old owner to come and make payouts. the site debt is tiny. Susan was trying to do the payouts, but michele was in such a hurry she demanded the sites immediately and did not allow them the time to do the payouts. and you know how people can be locked out

ok this took place late last night

first and foremost shouldn't the current owners have been the ones to say we are going to sell?

no worries on payouts like i stated the debts are tiny and debts do not scare me

i will make good on any and all payouts

if you fell unsafe and not secure with me as your new owner then please
email me let you pay you your full balance and i will be more then happy to delete your account and make sure that you are purged from the system so that no one will have any access to your address and email info

we as site owners do not enforce correct info except for correct countries for targeting of ads as we do not sell your names ever.

excuse me flaco

but sue was in the hospital and not doing anything for these sites
carey has too much on her plate with job and family

and was like please take them and now
so how did i force anyone to do anything?

she could have made all payments to members and notified members
she was in tears last night and asked me to write the goodby notice even

so if she wanted to still have control that was never an issue or a problem she was like pay me step dad wants the money now no echeck had to be instant cash right this minute and then went away.

so please tell me what i have done wrong here?

Sorry, but that is not what I hear from Susan. She told me she was upset that you did not let her finish the payouts.

And you know that since you demanded immediate turn over, Sue had no time to give any notice to the users.

That is what I was told.

well we all know what heresay is

amazing that i am online and am not hearing a word from either sue or carey
huh?


i will glady let her make all payouts

i was even asked to send the goodbye email so if she really cared about her members and wanted to do right by all then why

and if they still needed access why did they not say so and make the deal today, tomorrow, monday i am home for 3 days for the holiday
so please read the writing on the wall

the writing has been on the wall about sugarbear's sites, with claiming that PTP hadn't changed when it had, trying to come up with more reasons to delete members, etc, she was a scam that was getting ready to sell the sites and be rid of the debt she owned. What a joke!

the ptps will not be only for upgraded members

and i am not limiting the countries that are allowed to join

my best members are from non search country countries

and if i was out to scam her sites from her how come they are all still saying her affiliate stuff and forums and stuff all over them?

they would have cleaned all that up when they were ready to sell

i did not twist anyones arm to say give them to me now or i will not buy them
that was not the case

these sites are in poor shape they have cc scripts not current to the newest update
some of the plugins are not currently upgraded to the best and newest

there are other necessary plugins that are not even in the sites at all

and i have yet to hear a word from the old owners as they still have full access to these sites

Well then this should be a great change for us. Having the sites updated and such.

I look forward to your owning the sites Michele.

why aren"t I shocked you are defending another crocked PO???????

who is a crocked po????



i own www.magnoliamails.com

and as you can see by viewing the been paid page i make all payouts as members request it and bought that site with debt from the past owner who fell very ill

Why aren't I shocked you are attacking yet another honest PO?

What's so hard about writing an email to inform the members before giving the site over? First PurringEmail and now this.

Can someone tell me who is the new owner of BestPaidEmail4u? There is no email or admin message there.

Leah

Just wanted to let you all know that i am now the new owner of mesmerizing-mails 1.
All members are going to be now allowed to join. From all countries. If any of the countries become a problem they will be changed to ads only. I am also adding egold as a payout option.

If anyone has any questions feel free to pm me.

Becca

1. I was referring to the PO that sold the programs in the first place, she changed the PTP on at her sites and refused to admit it, when it was obvious when valid hits dropped by about 60%, she claimed she had no idea why it happened and she certainly hadn't changed anything, but it was clear she did and just didn't want to admit it.

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Grrrrr I am not happy. I knew nothing of this and yet I am a member of 3 of these programs. Also shows that I am a bad clicker cos I knew these sites were not like they used to be. Ahh well, I will not jump to any conclusions but it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth when this sort of thing happens. HOw hard is it to notify people before a site get solds. NOT HARD.

She just sent an email for dcg the other day saying how some changes were coming, but nothing about selling it. So I wonder you owns dcg now.

Wow you can sell your sites, why would somebody sell their sites since they are earning from it?

i still remember nonsearch members of bestpaidemails4u being promised by the old owners they were gonna be paid in time even tho they were deleted without good notice, well now we know whats gonna happen regarding that.... hope at least the sites will now be in better hands

Found the answer myself the new owner just sent an admin email and if I am still not very happy with how the sale was done, I am really really happy with the end result. The new owner is Sheri of DragonPaidemail, Cathousemails, Galaxy and PE4U.

Leah (who is feeling much better now)

I think in the future that anyone planning on buying an existing program may want to have "notification of members" as one of the terms of sale. IMO, the new owner of any program not only accepts the debt of a program but also the dissatisfaction of the members who just had their personal information transfer without a choice. (Even if it is an owner with a good reputation)

PTR business isn't stable so you could never know what tomorrow will be..

great news, i might join again myself

you dame right

So how many sites do you own micheleka?

i currently own 9 sites now

i have had 6 before in the past
so i know that i can do this and i will do it well as i have a great rep in here and can always sell ads and keep the sites going and flowing

already people are coming back as i reopened the signups to all countries not just search country only

I agree 100% with you. We take a risk with every site we are a member of. And this is why I do this for fun and entertainment, and If I happen to make a lil "change in my pocket" along the way wonderful!

Same here

I have also reopened up signups to all members international as well at mesmerizing-mails.com.

becca

I am currently moving all the sites off their current server with the exception of the one that went to Sheri, which has already been moved, expect 4-48 hours of spottyness with DNS depending on your ISP

One thing I have noticed with DCG is that there seem to be a lot more e-mails coming through every day since the change-over. Keep 'em coming, that's what I say.

IIRC, there was an admin message which appeared on the clickthrough from the first e-mail I clicked on after the change-over, announcing the change of ownership. I saw that only a few hours after receiving my monthly payout, which had been accompanied by an e-mail saying that there were going to be changes to the site. I remember thinking "Oh, that's what she meant then" and getting on with the clicking. No big deal. YMMV of course.

Ariane

Question for anyone with an account at mesmerizing-mails.net

Is your account still there? My account was there earlier today (with about 15 cents owed to me, plus around 10 referrals). It is gone now!

I am in contact with the new PO, but I was wondering if anyone else has the same problem.

Yes Scott, I noticed today that mine is gone too. I thought oh I must not have clicked links for a while and maybe I didnt as I know my thepaidhelp was not updating. However I thought I was clicking links but today I couldnt log into the site.

I clicked some PTC ads yesterday. I also notice that the "active affiliate" count is at 8. I hope they can recover our accounts.

The sites are being moved to new servers, so I would not worry for a day or two. That is just a guess. I do not have an account there tho.

I hope I'm still a member now that sue and carey are gone not sure if after the arguement with sue if she deleted me or not

Is there still a problem that you can't try to log in to find out? Have the server changes not been complete yet?

Just tried at mez and I'm gone lol

My only thing with that is, how much help do you have? I helped a friend a couple of years ago with her site and she only had one. It's a lot of work, and that was before PTP and such! I can't imagine managing to keep that many sites going smoothly? Not just payments, but ads and such. I'm not trying to be a snot, or mean. I just seriously wanna know how POs keep up with that many sites.

I have over 100 and do it
I have the help of some Great webmasters and Bling my girl does alot of the work while I'm fixing hacker problems

Maybe you haven't been purged yet and if you explain to the new admin they will give you your account back? Depends on what the arguement was about, I imagine?

But WHY have so many? Are these sites you were given or bought or all sites you started yourself? Wouldn't 1 or 2 sites be better? You could put all of your time and energies into a couple really good sites, making them large well running sites, than so many that might end up being small? I have no idea what sites you own and run, just asking in general.

ok not all the sites are ptr some are software cookbooks books school supplies the more sites I have the more I gain from advertising the sites that sell things take care of themselves the ptr sites if no one buys theres no ads so I can use my advertising money to send ads to the members so thay can still earn during the slumps when no one is buying

Some PO's choose to have a life, some choose to make GTP their life, I think Michele falls into the later as she is very dedicated to the sites and members and can do it all within more than reasonable time periods, is in good health, and has it all allotted for time.

Others choose to enjoy more freetime or time with friends/family, and there is absolutly nothing wrong with that either, and most of those do add on some help.

i spend many hours online when i am not at my 8 hour a day job.

i so love having sites and making my members happy clickers and some have nicknamed me the freebie queen.

i bought these 8 sites a few days and already i am giving away free upgrades with free ads.

i am a big time multitasker and so love and enjoy doing this so no worries ever.

this weekend i will be going over every site and seeing what is right and wrong like i noticed on one of the sites the contest ptc is paying 1/2 point that is crazy come on lets give a full point.

so i will get to all when i have my 16 hours a day this weekend to finish up stuff on the sites.

my first top priority was to update the scripts they were not running the latest version and i added the much needed plugins again they were not on the sites either.

i will also be running some great ad sales as the sites are very low in banners and emails at this time and i love full sites