Luckyearners about 2 weeks ago supposidly got "hacked" and lost it's database. Well, after a week or 2, they still don't have their act together, and i still haven't received an e-mail from them since the 2nd day this started. My earnings were reset. Did the admin run off?? or does he just not know how to restore his back-ups?? anybody else having this problem??

check general discussion on lucky earners.

so what? at least you have earning showing? last time I checked--a coupla days ago...MY earnings still showed ZERO...so what are you belly aching about? Soon as Lan gets the site resituated, I'm sure she'll get the $18+ back in my account.

Hi everyone,

I am also at zero..........I had $21.6758 and 238 points. I was away and did some email at the library so I don't know how much more I should have. I also have a number of emails still to do......don't know if I should now.

You have directly earned $0.0110
You have earned from your Downline $0.0125
Your account balance after all transactions $0.0235


Hehe that's what i meant by what is in my account. not really sure how i got 1 cent, but o well. I had $16 or so... and i haven't heard from the admin for a long time... but maybe he's working on getting it up??

I feel sad for Lan because each time she puts things right, something goes wrong.

I'm assuming all the LE members got this...but just in case ya didn't .....


Date: 28 Apr 2003 11:21:53 -0000
To: luckyEarners.com@,
Subject: Update from LuckyEarners
From: rewards@luckyEarners.com | This is not spam | Add to Address Book





Dear Members

I would like to apologize you that I have been taken time
to fix all problem

The things that were happened with database is more serious
than I expected. I have been working with a programmer.

I would sincerely appreciate if I can have your generous understanding
to problems that now LuckyEarners.

As always, I will do my best.

Thank you for your patience and understanding

BestRegards
Lan

NOTE:
Below are what you all would have as problem with LuckyEarners

* You may receive email from us even if you have already canceled your
membership
* You may not be able to login your account.
* You may not be able to click paid links
* You may not be able to see your correct earnings

and still holding at zero....

Hello You all

Actually this is very true ...
I just had done the problem links.... then was ready to payout....
Then it was happened ............


I know how you all feel, but at this time the problem is on database
and seems like it is really serious
so I will need to fix it very carefully

Some sites had same kind of problem that effected to only earning stats
However, with LuckyEarners
member stats, and paid links, and etc......

It has been actually 1 week from the day, 22th

I apologize you for all, and delay...

I will update via email to you all

Thank you

Lan


Here are some problem that some members has been experienced

* you may not see right earnings
* you may not be able to click paid links
* you may receive email from LE even if you have already cancel membership
* you may not be able to login your account

Lan, I feel so bad for all your troubles
Hang in there!!!

Hey Lan,

I wish you all the luck with getting LE back up and running again. I have complete faith in you and know everything will be alright. Don't listen to the negative people. If they've been a member of any of your sites then they know you will get everthing back to normal.

Hey Lan,

I wish you all the luck with getting LE back up and running again. I have complete faith in you and know everything will be alright. Don't listen to the negative people. If they've been a member of any of your sites then they know you will get everthing back to normal.

Sherry

I'm still hanging in there with ya too Lan....although now I'm getting the message I'm not in the database

Lan,
I don't know u n u dont no me but i feel very sorry 4 wot happened 2 u

i really have a problem with lucky earners now. i can't even log in at all. what the heck is going on. i know i couldn't have clicked any english test either cause i haven't clicked an email from them and won't til they get it fixed.

scroll some post up and you will know the answer

ok well yesterday i was showing zero today i am not there. wow they really had a major database malfunction. i was at almost $29.00 too. will ride it out and see.

Databases don't just malfunction. Most of these sites are using MySQL and look where it's hosted, www.godaddy.com.

It is highly unlikely they got "hacked". From my experience, when a server gets "hacked" more than just a couple of independent tables get dumped. If you have multiple sites (aren't you also Mailing Heaven?) they would have hit those too if they are on the same server. There are few ways a cracker can just corrupt data in a protected database without running queries on it (and they can't do that without privelages (and you can't get those on a secure server)). Has anyone else from godaddy.com got hacked? Are they related to GoMamma?

It's okay if you accidentally messed up the tables. But please don't lie to us. I'm not saying you are, I'm simply saying that it is highly unlikely you got "hacked".

If it is the case that your data was corrupted through no fault of your own, it's time to switch hosting companies.

I have seen a lot of WMs accuse hackers of corrupting their data, every time there is a problem with their database (it never seems to be their fault). It's real convenient to blame someone else for your own mistakes. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm saying it's highly unlikely.

Those of you that know how databases work (particularly MySQL) will know what I'm talking about.

boy you seem to EVERYTHING about everything (had a brother-in-law just like you...sometimes I still miss him ) when are YOU opening YOUR gptr site

I rode out the last round of trouble at LE and will do the same this time!!

I'm only speaking from fact about what I do know (CS is my edge). Technical expertise. Ask me a question about furniture making or parenting, and I'm lost.

I miss Luckyearners

had $20 already

i cancel the account .

In the first place Lan's sites are not hosted by godaddy.com...get your facts straight.

I agree with you that databases do not just malfunction, however your statement pertaining to independent tables not being able to be dumped is incorrect. If someone breaks the db password, and there are scripts out there targeted to do that very thing, then the database can be accessed. Using multi word combinations such as blank_time or blank_7_time are harder to crack. I'm not saying that the database was hacked or not hacked, what I am saying is that someone who knows the db structure of a particular site could very well get into specific tables if they so chose.

Please don't mislead everyone into believing that Mysql is "hack proof", it's not. Mysql is as vulnerable to hacking as any other database. Maybe you'll remember the credit card hacking previously done? I believe one of the programs used was a button prompting the user to create a credit card pipeline, which went right into the database. Thousands of credit card numbers were stolen as a result. Rather inventive yes?

And I do agree with you about the claims of hacking by some disreputable webmasters concerning their databases getting hacked.....but how about the ones that buy an existing program and say there are too many cheaters so they dump the database.

I think this is a great opportunity to educate the non-technical webmaster on how to keep their database in sync by performing regular maintenance, and how to prevent data from becoming corrupt. How about addressing the use of stored procedures?

I've been reading a lot of your posts in different threads and frankly for one so technical you don't seem to have a lot to offer in the way of how to make things better. Instead you gripe and complain repeatedly about how ignorant webmasters are. I guess you are too caught up in your own self-promotion under the guise of consumer advocacy. More's the pity as you could have been actually have been helpful.

I believe that Lan will get her database up and running. She works hard, runs good programs, and is willing to LEARN how to make things better in the future.