Got this today

You are being sent this email as you are a member
of Harley Babes Paid Email Program, this is not Spam !
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Hello Members,

We hope everybody had a great Easter.



We are looking for 200 - 300 people that are interested in making $50
- $300 a month + free advertising. We have had some participation in
the emails but only a small % of the members take advantage of the email
signups (The past 2 emails were worth $1.50 + free advertising).



If you are willing to signup for offers please email us back at
webmisstress@harleybabes.net the following information will help you
decide if this is for you.



1. You must signup with a address and/or email address, does this mean
you have to use a real one? No you do not. You must signup to get
credit and you must use a email address, you do not have to use the same
email address you use for HarleyBabes ( You can use a junk email ). But
you must forward your confirmation email to the email address you use for
HarleyBabes and then forward the letter onto us for credit.



2. You live outside the US and the offer is only for the US. Just use a
US address when you signup, do not use a company address use a physical
address like:

123 Floral Park

Floral Park NY 10001

It is upto you to find a real US address but do not abuse someone elses
and do not use the one above, make up a fake one but make sure the zip
code matches the state.


We are not telling you to cheat, the companies that run these
promotions pay for leads and we are giving them leads with a real email
address.



If you can do the above thn email us and let us know with the subject
line " Count Me In ".



God Bless



More emails will be sent out soon.



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Thank You,
Staff
HarleyBabes.Net

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To unsubscribe visit
http://www.harleybabes.net/paidmail/site/
and enter you info and click on delete account.

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That doesnt sound good

I sure wouldn't be a happy camper webmaster after reading that!!

LOL, BUSTED!

I totally agree!!! it doesn't sound good at all and i think i'll just sashay over there and un-subscribe. first the (very) adult banner and now this ?? they're giving all us girls who really do ride (meaning drive: not just sit on the back and look cute) harley's a bad name. as if we aren't called biker trash already....

That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen a WM write.

Well, I will NEVER be doing any advertising with that site... Probably 5 members each with hundreds of accounts raking in the cash.

Thats the stupidest disclaimer I've ever seen. They are just SHOWING us how to cheat to give these companies leads.

I'm glad I stayed away from this one since the adult banner fiasico.

I ditto everyone's sentiment here. How silly? And then to add there disclaimer


Like this makes them good honest people. Wait until people/cheaters mess with them too. They won't be singing a happy tune then!

I never joined them either and have no plans to ever do so.

I unsubscribed because of adult content, why cheating now?

I am actually in shock! I am one of the advertisers who pays the company (not that one, I dont belong to it thank god) to put my link on the paid to sign up page. If people do what she says to do, no one will bother buying paid to sign up advertising! I hope that isnt the kind of referals I am going to get for my money! Luckily the sites I have advertised this way with, do not promote that kind of cheating, I just hope people dont sign up the way she is suggesting becuase it is a waste of money for the advertiser and the w/m of the program they are advertising! why would we pay someone to put our link up to get referals that arent clicking and helping us make money??? I dont think she will be around long becuase telling people to cheat (even tho she is saying she isnt telling them to,coughbullgagsh**cough) is not going to win any votes for her except maybe a boycot vote!

If anyone here is still a member, I'd be forwarding that email to any paid-to-signups that he/she sends out... The advertisers will *not* be happy.

I am not a member of this one, but I think what she is meaning is not sign-ups for us, for PTR, but like for e-zine stuff and freebie sites etc etc....I may be wrong, but that is what I am thinking.

She may be talking about that...but still encourging your members to CHEAT any advertisers is morally wrong. She is a big cheater in my mind and I'm staying away from that site.

Guess your right, but a lot of sites these days ask you to go and send a card, which is fine in my books, or sign-up for lists, which they know we wont stay with.....it is just this webowner is spelling it out, instead of leaving it up to everyone...maybe it is her wording.

I totally do not condone cheating in any way, but just trying to give the benifit of the doubt here.......

What is more interesting is this WM is hiding just WHO they are.



I dont believe this person is from the US, nor do I believe the name.

What would we do without you Jack?....You always find the dirt...lol

Jaik, not Jack

Oh...Sorry, I am always shortening peoples names and getting it wrong, please forgive me Jaik!

I noticed that another one of the emails stated that most of the emails will be for signups. Just how much are they making off of these things anyway? Has to be more than a regular ad. Especially if they plan on sending them more than paid links.

*sniff*sniff*

...smells like something, and I don't mean apple pie...

i totally agree. it's why i got out quick...
smells more like what bulls do when nature calls to me!!!

They sent a mail a few days ago, it gave 4 programs to sign up for and said if u signed for all 4 you'd receive a mini gold package. Well, I did that, sent all the info to them and they sent me an email saying that the offer had expired (there was no expiration date in the mail) and that I hadn't signed for all the programs (which I had and I still have all 4 of the welcome letters plus the email I mailed to the webmaster at Harley Babes). It would be one thing if these were sites where you spent 5 minutes or less typing in your email addy and name, but all 4 of them took me like two hours to do combined.

glad i didn't sign up for this one. hey can you say "you sank my battleship" cause you torpedoed them for me ever joining. thanks for posting this.

WOW !! we are so glad that you people have the respect to email the staff of HarleyBabes. We noticed that you did not post the email that was sent out 3 days later explaining that the email should have never been sent out as it was sent out by a staff member and the member was fired.

If anyone would have read the emails or asked about this they would know this.

As far as a junk email address, this is not cheating. You read your junkmail when you have time but you do not want all kinds of junk you never signed up for like most advertisers send you. We did not say all advertisers, we said most.

This site is not ran by the webmaster as you say, this site is ran by a hired staff that get paid. Yes we do mostly signup emails but we also have members that got $4 - $6 in their accounts right now. We have also given away 7 gold membership, over 100,000 banner ads, and over 10,000 clicks in the PTC section.

So thats the 2 cents that this staff member has, take it for what you want to. We have been online for years and we have never cheated anyone.

Are you stating that the only way to earn money with this site, is through paid signups?

When you label an email address of 'junk' it does tend to lead one to believe that 'cheating' this just might be for in all likelyhood, the advertiser's offer was taken, just so that cash could be gained. Rare it is that I ever read my 'junk' inboxes. More likely it is that that I will allow the email therein to accumulate until either the inbox itself becomes full and I have the time to do one big massive delete.

Fail to address the issue regarding the value of each link, you have also done. It is .025 or .0003 as described?

The other question I might have, since venture within here to post you did, is 'bout those adult banners I've heard to exist within your site. Are they still there? What do you do to ensure that your membership base is truly over the age of 18?

Do you really pay up to $.25 per email or is this figure derived only if signup for an offer one does? I am not a member of your site, so these questions I ask, more out of curiosity than anything else.

Public relations, it seems your staff not be well-versed in. Perhaps, this might be an area of focus upon which you might concentrate. Though fire the individual who perhaps sent out the email, you or someone else did, it appears the damage to the credibility of this site has not yet disappeared. It would also appear that by your answers here that heal this wound caused by a member of a staff no longer there, you have not yet been able to accomplish. This is just an observation. Care to venture a comment?

This is what in their E-mail

Not a member anymore

I gave this one the benefit of doubt until I kept receiving these count me in emails and nothing else.
Then I saw this cheating incentive - enough is enough, I've unsubbed.

Despite what you say HarleyBabes, asking members to enter false information when joining other programs so that you can make money IS CHEATING