they made pretty good changes:



and have done a really DUMB thing of allowing only one visit per ip address a day!

i logged in for the first time today and got:

"Sorry, Your IP address has been already in use today by another user. "

Using AOL.

Or anything that uses a public proxy. OR on dial up.

Either way I would be contacting them and informing them that their IP detector is broken. You cant go on IP alone like that due to the reason above.




From their site when I went to sign in. Take note that that IP is my ISP's proxy IP.

I too ran into this problem. I have cable and my IP is supposed to be exclusive to me (not that it suprises me I'm being charged for something the cable company is sharing with others). I have not been impressed by this program for a long time and considering how little my referrals were making I don't think they were either. I can't see how their method of blocking IP's is going to increase membership - more likely it will decrease it.

Have the same problem and am on cable .... made regularly a cent or two from them ... would like it to continue .....

Sophie

CMI -- getting nowhere fast here either !!!

I'm on AOL and have this problem..have emailed them b/c I have been paid before and the changes seem good..would hate to have to quit b/c of this.

If anyone finds out a way to fix this let me know!!

Liz

I emailed him and said what are you sending me this crap for I haven't been able to get into Gold Salary for over a month..All I get is page cannot be displayed

Me too..maybe if the dudes realized that half the membership couldnt even access the site that they wouldnt have had to change the TOS to get more people to use them....we cant use them if they offered a gold brick a day..

I use compuserve and I haven't been able to get into goldsalary for months but my husband uses msn and I can work my account for his computer. I have no idea how they track ISPs but I do know it's not always the perfect solution since my husband bought a gold membership at matrix mails and when I was notified that I had a gold member under me they also stated that is was a high risk purchase and that it might not be legit so I e-mailed them to find out what they meant and they sent me the info on his ISP showing that he was in England and that didn't match his credit card billing address. I guess ISPs just seem to bounce around and there's no telling where someone is from. Maybe it depends on your server.

Yeah I get that every time I try to access the site with Internet Explorer but then it works when I use the AOL browser, I've no idea why that happens

I get in fine with Explorer
Atleast no one has been using my IP addy today to log in, actually no one should be able to use it since it's exclusively ours.......propably tomorrow I can't get in

Here is the reply I had, I suggest people simply mail them to say they can't login, without complaining but just to show them that maybe more than 5 % of us are 'hit' by this anticheating method ....

Dear Sir/Madam
We regret that we had to take such strict measure. We know that IP address is allocated dynamically and difficulties can cause proxy servers as well. According to our statistics, this change will involve approximately 5 percent of GoldSalary members. Since there are some cheaters who cause us big problems with their multiple accounts and we don?t know another solution, we have to defend GoldSalary this way (it is temporary). We of course welcome any good ideas how to solve it. GoldSalary is developing and getting better (we hope you feel it so :-). Please don?t send us complaints, this is only answer we can give you at present. Thank you for understanding. GoldSalary team.

yep, i received the same email. *sigh* another one bites the dust. and i bet it affects a lot more than 5% of their members!!

What they're saying is that 5% of the GPTR population use dialup, or are forced through a proxy server, or both.

BS.

In Australia, even most residential DSL and Cable connections are allocated dynamically. All non-permanent dialup ones are.

And a lot of the DSL/cable people who let you use a static IP will still force web access through a proxy of theirs.

Yes, it is hard to uniquely identify a user on the internet. Identifying solely by IP is *never* a solution though.



I've never once had a difficulty cause a proxy server

I also received the same e-mail reply.

Everyone who reads this thread and has problems because of the new IP rule should email GoldSalary or post here. I will send a link to this thread to GoldSalary after we get several more posts, so they can see that it is a more prevalent problem than they originally estimated.

I get problems with the ip thingy too

I guess I should feel fortunate that I am not having any trouble with accessing the site. I use Earthlink DSL and my connection is always on, so my IP doesn't change, that is probably why.

I realize there are a lot of sites that use IP addys for idenfitication purposes, if someone came up with a better solution and e-mailed it to them you might get a more responsive answer than complaining.

well if you have an idea, i'd gladly email it to them.

the only better idea i have is to take away that ridiculous ip restriction. which is what i suggested to them anyway.

my ip address doesn't change either. as i learnt not so long ago, there is an isp in new zealand called paradise.net which has the same ip numbers for all it's users. i put this forward to goldsalary and received that standard reply. i bet there are more isp's in the world like this.

I had the same problem with the IP earlier today to. I went back a few hours later and it let me in.

LOL, we are the members, not the webmasters ... we're not supposed to know how to write scripts to be able to use our accounts, do we ?

And seemed funny they asked us who can't access our account anymore if we think the changes are making the site better

A lot of search engines for example know very well when I have searched 3, 12 or 30 times in a day and if I do too many a message shows saying I have to wait 24 hours .... I am no techie and don't know how they do that, but if they can, goldsalary should be able to do the same, not ?

I just hope they will, didn't like their answer but do like the site tho ...

I am another New Zealander who cannot use the GOLDSALARY site anymore. This guy seems to have something against users that can prove they are legit. If one person in a room full of people commited a murder, he'd hang everyone!!!!
I will be changing all my rotating advertising sites to delete the GOLDSALARY referral page as soon as I can.

I guess now their new crappy IP detecting system has stopped many legitimate users, there are more links & more cents for some who want it all for themselves. (Have read the earlier posts.)

How about Goldsalary becomes fair for all honest users???

Well, maybe they should try better then because now, they caused more problems than what they solved but I see that as long as you can login and earn, it doesn't affect you and you don't have to care for the others ... you're entitled to do that of course ... ;-)

Sophie

I don't think you understood me, sorry for my english, let me rephrase this : I mean when I search for a search engine even when I don't have an account there ...

I search 1 for friend xyz, search 2 for friend abc and search 3 from somewhere, don't even know who I search for...then it says, STOP, you have searched 3 times from this IP or computer or whatever, today, please don't search until tomorrow ...


So, they know if I have been there or not and act according to that ...goldsalary doesn't seem to be able to do that and check if I really went there or not ....

Sophie

I just logged in and got "Sorry, Your IP address has been already in use today by another user. "
The problem is that I have a semi-static IP and itr changes rarely and it did not change since couple of weeks and no one else could have been using it, especially that I don't even think anyone from my ISP even heard about earning online.
So it's not true. My IP couldn't have been already used today by another user.

I just tried from my work's IP address - I finally got in

LOL, right, you're allowed to be selfish

But what if half of your refs can't login and click anymore, you'd have waisted time and money promoting the thing for .... zilch, nada, rien, niets .... nothing

i have noticed that my indicated IP address on Goldsalary (which has never changed) is different than what another site (secure banking site) says my IP address is. Something fishy here. cookies????

& i still cant get in. I wonder what my referrer thinks?

LOL, maybe people take this way too seriously .. but see it the other way, some webmasters, not saying goldsalary webmaster thinks like that, know no one will ever really sue or do anything really bad, so they just continue without caring and ripp off people .... just because peopel don't take it seriously, some can do what they want ;-)

And btw, some people make a decent living from this industry .... for them, it's serious ... even if for you it's not

Hi all:

I got the "too bad, so sad" email from them too. I would think that not only the members would be upset, but also the advertisers...it really limits the people that can see a campaign. Seems like now it will be a few lucky people without IP problems viewing day after day. Not something I'd want to advertise on.

Someone posted about sending a link to this thread telling GoldSalary just how many people had the problem. I am going to start a poll, and let's all take it and see how many people do have problems. We could get a percentage at least. Not very scientific, but the best we can do.


Liz

Well, some webmasters and members really do live from this ... doing gpt or search engines or web design or script writing or helpdesks or safelists or whatever, or all of it .... and those I know do it honestly and effeiciently, it's not because some do it just for fun that they're allowed to ruin it for everyone else ...

And if those you call a minority were not doing their job, we wouldn't all be here having fun when we take a break ;-)

Btw, while typing this, new mail entering :
We apologize for difficulties we may caused you. As we informed you, we had to block members who logged from same IP address. This does not mean that we denounce anyone from cheating. One of basic rules is, that GoldSalary target unique visitors to advertisers sites. Since there were lots of problems with some cheaters it was only available solution at the moment. We promised that we will solve it anyway, and it is so. We are starting new monitor within 6 hours, which will enable all legally surfing members to log in and surf. Thank you for your patience. GoldSalary team,Michal

LOL, Thanatos,

All those deserving no more attention than that and .... you keep on coming back talking about them
And am not going to enter into an argument about how people earn their living on the internet ....

Just wanted to mention that I could login again and think Goldsalary has done a great job fixing it, I hope everyone can login and surf again and I probably misunderstood the mail thinking they said : 'too bad, so sad' without paying any attention ..... am sorry and happy I did misinterpretate it ;-)

Sophie

Ok this is probably a little off topic, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen this

I went to the member area to see if I gained any referrals from recent ad promotions I've done for Gold Salary and I see this





2 Frown faces included.....

I've written them to ask what it means....

Beckie

ROFLMAO ..... just as well yes

Somebody else has senn it and reported it here

Dunno what it means tho ;-)

Sophie

I finally received a response to my email to Gold Salary



From:
To: hotnews@goldsalary.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: NEWS2 : New rewards system WITHOUT non-paid visits !


I don't know why you sent me this.I cannot access Gold Salary....and haven't been able to for a month or more
All I get is page cannot be displayed

-------Original Message-------

His Response



From: GoldSalary
Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:23:20
To:
Subject: Re: NEWS2 : New rewards system WITHOUT non-paid visits !


Hi, this error indicates that the Domain Name System (DNS) can't translate
the URL into a valid Internet address. Please try changing your DNS server
or contact your provider. Make sure you clear the cache every time you
change DNS servers. Michal, GS


to which I responded:

Why would I do that for one program?....I belong to many others and I don't have a problem with them.

earlier I had

FIVE SMILEYS MEMBER'S MONITOR (recorded): with 2 sad smileys

now i have 3 happy smileys

but don't know what it means either

I have 3 of those smileys too

what is the number of the website? someone must know what i'm talking about, lol. the not-so-friendly url......

i remember one time when i couldn't access a url, i was given the http://75401574.5427534.5749 whatever

maybe that would work?

I got all 5 "frowns" when I logged in - but it still let me in? Maybe part of the IP address thing? If anyone figures it out please post here. After all this it would really be uncool to have your account deleted for "cheating" when all you're doing is trying to use the site.


Liz

my account works perfect and i'm getting paid everyday

The problem here is that there are a couple of server variables that can be used to get your IP address. The first gives them the IP that is connecting to the proxy server. The second (if set) gives your actual IP, if you're going through a proxy server that provides that information.

The issue is that many script writers don't even know about the second variable, so they don't check for it, and assume that the direct connect IP is the only one.

As you'll notice, the ones with decent programmers behind them (the banking site) can get the actual IP, whereas GS and others will give the proxy IP. Shoddy programming.


That being said, checking for the second variable won't fix all these problems, as not all proxy servers provide the proxied-for IP, but it would certainly help.

Well... The smilelys (or grumpies) seem to work, I am earning now, but I am worried that I have 2 grumpies, not sure if that means I'm walking along a cliff even though I am as honest as they come (dont laugh, its true).

I joined goldsalary, some time ago
and never ever had a problem.

I noticed however that pay is very very low. For every cent earned my computer uses 2 cents of electricity, I guess.

So I really do not understand the fuss, just quit, it will not make you money anyway and the sites they show are not that special.