I'm from china,I jioned maifest and greenletter one months ago,and I work hard and advertise for it,now I had 68 referers and 6.7$ total earnings in mailfest and 22 referers and 6.9$ in greenletter.Now it all lose,Wm can change the term when he want,it's unfair,I'm so sad,everyone should know who is the biggest cheater!

Have you contacted him in reguards to staying within his sites. Because as far as I know it isnt affecting those that are currently within the site, but those that plan to sign up. Speak with him and see what can be done. He might cash you out if he is asking you to leave.

But unfortuantly there are those from China that spoil it for all...

The biggest cheaters are those who spoil it for everyone else.

Hello from GreenLetter,
I would NEVER remove accounts that close to cashout unless cheating was involved. This person most likely still has accounts with us. By the way, GreenLetter has NEVER accepted members from China, it is only new policy at MailFest (where I have received death threats from people from China LOL!) I am only doing what must be done to ensure the success of MailFest for the majority of it's members.

Will,
Webmaster
GREENLETTER

You say what you want like you change the term,one months ago,after I jioned greenletter,I email to you and ask wheather accept chinese member,you say everyone will be paid if he not cheat,now,I got so much referers for you and nearly reach min payout,you say you do not accept,abjection

Sunset: Considering that I have a massive downline I havent been deleted. You have probably been caught cheating so live with it.

I cheat?show me the evidence.I put the thead only to let chinese people know that never do for them and let other people know the fact.there is so much scammer I can live with it,

The same thing also happened to Censimilia at MailFest. Last time I checked with her, she had 270 referrals. Her account was deleted.

I can tell you now he is far from a scammer.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...573&f=2&t=44989

Note my post in that thread.

Not only that, this thread looks very similar to that one. Two Chinese members complaining the same day about the same WM run sites?!?

Where is Censimilia from?

jaikula:you must be the son of the greenletter,or you may not say that ,two chinese people conplain,I think it's too little,if you understand chinese,you go our forum, there is hundreds of chinese people complain of it

I am in no relation to Will, the owner of Greenletter and Mailfest.


Look, if you dont like it because you have been deleted from his programs because you are from China, then why not look at those WITHIN your own country that are dishonest. And dont say there arent anyone from China that isnt dishonest, now you might think I am having a go at your country, but there are a few others other than just China. India, Pakistan, Malaysia. Even the US and UK have their own cheaters.

WM's have to take action against the countries that show where the most cheaters are coming from. Are they racist, no, they have to do it to keep in business.

It seems so good reson,like US attact Iraq, "I am not a cheater,I'm only to keep in business".It seems so nice.Yes,our country has cheaters,but where not?Who is the biggest cheater,cheat hundreds of people and in out country can put in prison?

If you are not a cheater,if you are honest,you will not say that.you might pay all member from china that never cheated,and apologized to all honest chinese member,then,you can change your term,If you not think so,you not have the right to put the thread,I think getpaidforum only accept honest people

Spain.

Anyway Censimilia had two accounts at AYS (I know it because she told me), she told she doesn't have Paypal but she opened an Orangiez account, when I asked her about that, she didn't say a word. And on the other hand Censimilia used to write in this forum with nick "Zyrion" or "Zirion" (or something like that), I know because she resigned up at GPF but she never told me why, she just told me she wasn't new here but rejoined with the nick Censimilia, now I wonder why did she stop using her other GPF account.

Tsk Tsk Tsk Notty Notty Notty.

*sighs and just shakes his head*

I dont htink I need to say more since the rules are quite clear on this forum for having two accounts.

But if they have also admitted for cheating at another site, then what's to say they havent cheated at another?

Well, the second AYS account was her brother's account and she closed it when AYS wrote about deleting people with multiple accounts, anyway why would they have two accounts if they live in the same house?, I can't find any sense on that except trying to get double earnings.

And now that I remember she told me a few weeks ago she wasn't member of CosmicWealth, then after a few days she told she was member but CosmicWealth blocked her account because "a friend of her" signed up in her house (before she did) and then when she signed they (CosmicWealth) blocked her account account. Aparently accounts weren't cross referenced (anyway it's a very "strange" history, to say the least) so they (CosmicWealth) unblocked her account. That was her explanation when I ask her why she told she wasn't a member and then when I asked again told me she was.

Quite a history, eh???

hey Censimilia

i have a shovel if you need to borrow one


lol

1- AYS was with 2 accounts. Deleted one.
2- Orangiez pay by egold and I have PayPal.
3- Zirion was a old account registered but I don't like the name, stoped using it whn I created Censimilia. Anyone can have a mistake writting a name. (don't used ref. exchange or something with Zirion account)
4- I have CosmicWealth account with no problems.
5- I got no problems with no people and I help all I can.
6- Mailfest was with 150referrals and they deleted me because I can't change terms cause I was in vacations.

Thanks

1.- Yep, you deleted one, I already you closed one when AYS Admin told they were gonna delete people with multiple accounts. The point is why to have two accounts in the same house, excepting the fact you can earn double?
2.- Extracted from Orangiez

http://www.orangiez.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi?referrer=
And you told me several times you didn't have a Paypal, so, were you lying then or are you lying now?
3.- Ok, I guess there's no problem about since you stopped using the other account. Anyway the user (Zirion) should be deleted.
4.- You told me about two-three weeks ago you weren't member from CosmicWealth, then told me all that incredible history, didn't you?. I didn't say a single word that wasn't true.
5.- ??
6.- I didn't say about your Mailfest account.

Finally, of you're wondering why I'm doing this it's because you know I hate e-gold games and you wanted my to invest in your game at the point that you asked me to invest in your rishibucks game and you were going to put my investment in the spot number two. How do you call that?, honesty?. Sorry, now I hate even more those hyip/e-gold games.

1- AYS is now with problems so I have 30$ pending (not payed) I recieved nothing from my brother account (I wasn't executive).
2- censimilia@hotmail.com ( unverified account)
3- I will ask a mod if they can delete this account cause I can't.
4- CosmicWealth can't signup 2 times from same PC. I was signed up and then deleted account. Wanted to rejoin I emailed webmaster and created a new account.
5- Nothing 2 say.
6- Nothing 2 say.

About RishiBucks.com I offer to "good" friends the oportunity to invest In RishiBucks first if they are in msn. Because they helped. RishiBoy or TheHaque4Ever are friends and they advertise for me. So I say it to them I have restarted and they advertise as followings.

Thanks

I can't find any threads related to this issue in the b5/gb forum(s)...
Can someone post the url's here? Thanks!











a little bit 8 <- hongkie

I've been aching to post here about the Webmaster of Greenletter, I wanted to make sure I had enough proof to shut his mouth first! This Person is a Cheater in the worst sense of the word!!!

I just started my program about 1 month ago and I was very new to hosting a PTR program. I had the usual problems that most have when just starting out.

Will offered helpful suggestions and tips that would make my job easier and more profitable. I appreciated his help and offered him free banner impressions, a free text link and even free email advertising.

Shortly after this, he requested payment. It had already been stated that payment requests would not be accepted until May 15, 2003. So I first told him no. he pleaded with me to give him an early payout and so I did. I ran a promotion during pre-launch where I paid 25 cents per referral. He had racked up $15.81 in referrals and a $2 referral bonus within the first 2-3 days. I paid him via PayPal close to $18.

Next I received a very similar email from another webmaster that was very helpful to me. His name is Mark and his userid is TCC, He claimed to be the webmaster of TheCashClub. I too had given him free banner advertising, a text link and ran his ad via email to my members as well.
He too requested to be paid early. He said "please, I will do whatever I can to help promote your site". I went ahead and paid him too via PayPal 8.27 cents plus a $2 signup bonus.

I didn't think much else of until I did a search by IP address and both of these accounts had several members with the same IP address they had. I removed TCC and MysticalSeller from my database. I later found out that it was common for several members with various ISPs to show up with the same IP address so I put them back in and reinstated their earnings and referrals.

I really did not want to think that I couldn't trust these people. but red flags kept coming up. I have been receiving angry emails from people threatening to report me for spam because they did not opt in to receive emails. when I checked these accounts they were referred by TCC. I sent out an email to everyone on TCC's referral list to verify the accounts. I received a box full of undeliverable mail and 2 very nasty emails from members claiming not to have signed up. One woman didn't even have a clue as to what a PTR program was.

I'm not saying that none of the accounts were valid because many were.

After doing an audit of MysticalSeller's account I found numerous invalid referrals and so I deleted his account again. He emailed me and threatened to call me a cheater in th forums and spread bad word about my site. He repeatedly said the words "Do the right thing and pay me what you owe me"

I remembered the wording that was used when TCC asked me to re-instate his account and it was almost identical to what MysticalSeller Said. Almost as if it were scripted or something.

I just found out yesterday that the Cash Club and Greenletter are the same site
http://www.TheCashClub.com

I decided to do a test so I had my husband email Mark Dean (TCC) and ask him if he is the owner of Greenletter and if so could he have some information about the program. This is the response he got.

Yes, I am the owner, yes you can make money with my program, if you are a dedicated user, you can cash out in 5-8 months I run a very giving site that I take care of my members, Thanks for asking, You are welcome to ask me anything at anytime

Thanks, Mark Dean
Webmaster

How can Mark Dean and Will be the webmaster of Greenletter?

So you see, not only did he have many bogus referrals, he also had 2 separate identities.

Stay away from his site, he is dishonest. It's just unfortunate that I didn't find out until after I parted with so much of my money.

LV Jones
Webmaster
Paymerightnow Paid2REad