Welk, do you not move UP the downlines when you delete? I joined from the downline builder and had the levels filled up, now I'm only showing one referral. Are you not on Mec scripts that move up the downlines? This is so sad to see one lonely ref when I checked the downline builder area and see quite a lot of folks who joined after I did.

perhaps your downlines was deleted!

It also says

? 10 Ref levels of commission under you

So why does the stats page only show 6?

i lose all my downlines after the 5th level!!!!!

hi all,

ill try to answer all these questions at once...

today easter sunday i deleted over 300 china members and many other cheats....plus we had over 100 that havent ever clicked a link since launch...many of these was from the first week in april..

i deleted the user name no, null, anyone, goldmember, i believe these was all the same person taking referrals from gold members when they fill in the referral blank with no etc etc...

im not sure if the referrals move up when i level is deleted i have to look into that....

my end i see 10 levels, your end you see 6....i use to much bandwidth to let ya see that even and might move it down to where you only see your first level... to try to reduce bandwidth useage...Ive already had to upgrade 1 level our 2nd week online...

i might suggest to restart the downline builder since ive cleaned house...

remember im learning all this by trial and error so hang in there good times are comming to ya with goodcheer

welk1

You can't restart the downline builder unless a program has lost its complete member base... it would also mean that people would get confused and possibly signup for multiple accounts

Also if you are running the scripts that don't move people up a level I suggest you upgrade...

new sites will take up alot of bandwidth anyway and its not going to save you much by not showing all levels of refs..

thats just MTCW...

I think it as a cheater.
Goodcheerclickin deleted many members without report.
he said they are all cheaters but in fact he deleted them just dont want to pay them!!!!!!!!!!

never trust in his words anymore.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is absolutly not true as all english reading members know for 2 weeks this has been posted that was gonna happen...yes they was paid unless they clicked a withdraw icon...

I did not delete any china gold members or members from china that ran ads,,,,hummm wait a minute there wasnt any???

Im no minimum cashout but i didnt expect to payout everyday at 1-2 cents....and most china members were doint this filling up my mail with redeem requests...

i dont cheat....im just fair , tring to build a good ptr site for all

welk1 is fair and not a cheater he payed me without any problems and very quickly

Yes, Chinese didn't and wouldn't be your goldmember--------because you are cheating!!!
Why you don't want to delete gold members?-------because they would give you money
AND, you don't want to pay out.

If you not a cheat
Then please pay to the honest members you deleted !!!!
you deleted all the chinese, are all the chinese members cheating?????
If you never accept Chinese, We understand very well.
But you should payout first~~~!!!!!!!!!!!

Mybe a cheater thinks all others a cheater

All i know is that welk is a nice person. I have talked to him a many times on webewebin, and i know that he doesnt lie. I dont know why you are trying to lower his reputation, but i really want proof behind your words... To me it seems like you are pulling false accusations out of your b*tt. So before you have anything to say, plz give us proof!!

Well , Welk1 should honest first.

------He didn't deleted cheaters at a normal way
-------He just shut down all chinese's IP
-------are all chineses cheaters?
--------We all received the paid emails but when we go through the links
--------it says: "your IP isnt allowed to access......."

This is a cheaters way to delete members, isn't it????!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Well I'm sorry to bring this to your attention, most gptr programs are banning chinese ip's because it is widely known that is where most cheating is coming from. Most programs delete you right on the spot when they see a chinese ip. You may be one of the good ones, but lots have been cheating and has basically ruined it for you.

It is no good being mad at Welk...just about every webmaster is doing it, and the people you should show your anger to is your own country men and women!

You may be honest, and if you had written welk and asked him personally he may have let you stay a member, but not when you come here, and call people cheaters!

If you can do it oh so better, go and open your own paid to read, and see what happens, you will be cheated and robbed by your own people....then see how it feels.

These cheaters not only cheat and steal from the owner, but off of honest members, like myself, so I and a lot of other members stand behind welk 100%

I completely agree with moonie!

We cant access this page,
how could we see this??
Wo====

I just talk about the fact on goodcheerclickin
not means anything els-----------please kindly understand!!

You can call welk1 a cheater all you want to, but he's been around quite a while, established a reputation, and folks know him.

Yes, I understand that you're talking about goodcheerclickin...but what YOU need to understand, is MANY, MANY webmasters are not allowing folks from China and India anymore. Too many cheaters from those countries.

It's all the cheaters from those countries you should be angry with. Webmasters HAD to take a stand, and they did. I know you may not like it, but calling any webmaster - including the one from goodcheerclickin - a cheat, is completely inaccurate.

~ Ambrie ~

No, Welk is not a scammer, or dishonest. I am sure when he deletes accounts, he's doing it as per TOS agreement only. And he's amenable to suggestions, and constructive criticism. Try a nice approach first.

Welk, as for restarting downline builder, that just can't be done. You have to have been wiped out by server error to re-launch. I suggest you upgrade your scripts as soon as possible. Talk to the webmasters who are decent on here...Dana (CashWage, ZCash, etc.), Cathy (FreeandEasy), Cynthia (LetterWealth), someone like that. They're great, responsive, and have a wealth of knowledge.

Good luck!

how do i let the downline builders know who was deleted and who wasnt..otherwise they go to no upline

im sory all im out of my knowledge league here

Wait a minute! Welk is not only honest, but a great guy on top of it. I don't think what you guys are saying is right at all.

All the webmasters are deleting members from certain countries. China and a few others are known cheaters. Why single out and degrade someone for doing what is best for not only their business but for you the user of that business.

If you would read the emails sent by Welk, instead of just clicking and making the cent, you might have read all this in the email that Welk sent. I know I read about it.

You guys? From what I read in this thread, it's just sweetsmile that has a problem with him. The rest of us understand what's going on.

I didn't know if you took it to mean all these responses were AGAINST him. Just the one person, as far as I can tell.




~ Ambrie ~

Welk, hon, it's not the in downline builder that your problem lies, it's your scripts. And as I posted above, I don't know how to fix it, except you need to upgrade scripts. That's why I posted those ladies. They've done upgrading, etc. And they're quite helpful, and nice.

Please don't think I was fussin' I just am upset that people cheat, making us lose out, and when a webmaster doesn't have upgraded scripts, we lose all our downlines. I got upset because after having several, now I only have one. I can't afford ads, gold memberships, I refuse to BUY a referral on Ebay (I still think it's wrong to sell refs on Ebay).

Anyway, ask some webmasters who've been around a long time how to get these script changes made. Your host can tell you, also. She's a very intelligent lady. And from what I've heard, quite nice.

its not the script.... if all was deleted under you nothing will move up

I stand corrected Ambrie and my post has been edited

sry but im here for the members if they run a ad to 1000... i want the 1000 to be real 1000 that might be able to join or buy what the ad is for

Hmmmm Welk are you saying you deleted the entire downline from under me on down? Every last single person? I am the last on the list? That's what it sounds like. So if that is the case, no, nothing WOULD move up.

Oh well. Like I said, I can't afford to buy, so I'll just keep clicking. I don't go in for redeeming for less than a dollar anyway. So I'll just work harder.

wink fixed

goodcheerclickin will be the best on the net or i will sell it to the member with the less downline for 1 dollar

im out to be the most user friendly advertising site....send me a ad with what ya can afford to spend and i will work with ya


welk1

LOL!!! accepted with appreciation

Sigh
I am a Chinese, I can not login now.
I have wrote to the Webmaster, but no reply.
I am a GPTR owner, I can understand why you ban the China IP.
But, at first you allow Chinese join, now I think you should pay us at least. Because it was our should earnings.
Yes, there was some cheater in China, but all of us are honest.
Without notice, without payment, without anything you ban all of us, IS IT NOT CHEAT?

up

Sorry sweet, you can't bump up here. Not allowed. Per forum rules.

Absolutely agree.

I did not find any word in Program Terms that chinese member are not accepted. And NO WARNING on the sign up page before while i signed it in downline builder.
Before he delete the account, he shall pay first, the money is mine, not WELK's

he is a thief!!
cheater at all.

To others:
DO NOT SAY CHINESE ARE CHEATER!!!

sorry,
Thank you for your remind.

it is posted on the join page

No, you didn't before!

Hello, Even though I cannot stand welk I can understand why chinese are banned. Many cannot read an english page. and all pages are in english. So all chinese are not reading the pages and you will have no chance to get referals from these chinese members. Its not that your cheating. They just can't understand what is written there!

With so many webmasters saying folks from China and India are cheating, I'd think it would have to do with more than just not being able to read English.

But let's focus on that for a minute. Ads are in English. Let's say for the sake of argument, you don't understand English.

You're looking at ads you don't understand? Is that fair to the advertiser? You're clicking on the link, you're getting paid...but you can't understand the ad? So advertisers are paying you, for something you can't read? You look at the words, but you have no clue what they mean. But you want to be paid anyway. You want your money no matter what. Too bad for the advertiser if you can't read what he paid you to look at?

C'mon. How can that NOT be cheating? That would be just as bad as ME joining a Chinese program. I can't read Chinese! How in the world can I participate fairly? Sure, I can just click on any link and be paid, but I wouldn't have a clue what I'm looking at, and really wouldn't ever be able to support the advertiser.


~ Ambrie ~

. Many cannot read an english page????

how can you say so? you are very very very smart!!!

m....haha

it is posted on the join page, but it is posted after shut down all chinese's Ip.
Isn't it?
Welk1?
Please answer it based on the fact.
Be honest, ok??

im not from china, india or bangladesh and im not a member of goodcheerclickin.
i was planning to join goodcheerclickin before i read this thread.



what if u able to read chinese? and when u joined the program, the program accepting all international members (with no exception) then suddenly your account deleted after u have earned some money from your honest activity?



how bout the china goldmember? why u still keep them? can they read english? how do u know if they can or cant read english?
and bout no min payout, u said it yourself that there's no min payout.
if u expect to payout ..lets say...at least 50 cents, u can set the min payout to 50 cents.
for me min payout means min pay out.



lets say someone bought ads to 1000, from 10% of 1000 is cheater, did u refund 10% of the money to the
advertiser?

GoodCheerClickin.com may, at any time, choose to edit, add and/or delete portions of this agreement and impose changes without prior notification of its members.

That is in their terms.
So, really you cannot go by the terms section.



What if an advertisor bought 400 paid emails? Then 350 members were from China/India/Bangeledesh(spellcheck) that clicked the link. That means that possibly 50 people read that ad(maybe a few more). I personally would be p****d. It is too bad for Chinese people. Many others had to ruin it for the good hard working folks out there. I suggest you open a PTR for Chinese.

It's not only that they cannot understand English. I have a friend that owns a PTR and she tells me that she deletes members from China and India constantly for signing up numerous accounts per household. That is cheating.

Good thing there is wonderful new anti-cheat software nowadays!

Welk, I definately suggest upgrading your scripts.

There are scripts that will move downlines up when cheaters and inactives are removed from the program.

People...this really could've happened to any new webmaster that was not aware of the huge cheating problem from these countries. I personally was not until my friend brought it to my attention. The cheating from these countries needs to be stopped somehow!

This thread and my friend definately helped me out a little. Glad I am aware of the situation now before I open my new site!