Hi

does anyone knows if the relaunch of 1stprofit is done with the same webmaster??

If so, this would be the biggest scam of all


Len van Rekom

no, its being done by the new webmaster who PROMISED to pay everyone.

i see i cant log in now.

i have a screenshot. though.

and the saved email to her about my earnings which were supposed to be paid.

1st profit is now owned by Evelyn.. who owns Clickbuxx, FillyMyAccount, ClickingMoney4U, CashKitty and a few other sites I think.

I don't know who owns it but I am furious. My account is gone. I had hundreds of referrals and was really close to cash out.

I had been active all this time since the site first opened and now I have nothing.

The more time goes by and things like this happen the more paid to read email just is not worth it.

My account had best be fixed the way it was. I can't access my old stats either.

it appears that she feels this is the best way to run things...

To just delete everyone? no warning, no payout etc. nothing?
That is not right. If that is the case I won't be supporting her sites anymore.

she did ask people to send in their stats around March 24th ("email me your user name, email address you have register with 1st Profit, your current earnings and number of referrals.")...I don't have the whole email, but I thought that she was going to set the accounts back the way they were, but I was wrong...

I think she will just credit earnings, and not referrals..

she had asked for all the info on our accounts ( which she should have had already) and stated she would give a $5 bonus to anyone who stayed with her.
Here is one of the emails she sent out.


Dear Members,


This is a note to let you know that I am very glad to see that many of you support the decision to start fresh. There does seem to be some confusion though about the member info, I will say this ok - please submit in this format:


user name:

total earnings:

total referrals:

payment option (paypal, check)



I will accept the meails I have received all ready but all future ones WILL BE IN THIS FORMAT or I will not process them.


There also seems to be confusion about what I am doing so I am going to explain this again forthe members who scanned the email found no link then deleted it without reading it.


I need all members (except those who all ready have) to submit the above infomation to me. In researching the database this morning I found numerous CHEATERS. I also found more this evening. These members will be permanently removed from ALL OF MY PROGRAMS.

So, due to the high cheating in this site I have decided to erase all current member data, update the scripts to Cash Crusader scripts and start fresh. I am requesting that you send your member information to me so that I may review your account for fraud. If you are found to be an honest member then you have the choice of the following:

* a payout on Saturday March 29, 2003
* hold your earnings and credit them back when the site is back up
* transfer your earnings from this program to one of the following:
ClickBuxx
ClickingMoney4U
SurForHits
Cash Kitty

These are the other programs I own and I will make the transfer for you no problem. For some of you who have been members of other programs above the transfer could send you into payout in that programs!!!

The cheater I found tonight had 2 separate accounts, both with the same IP the same First Name, Last Name home address the only difference was the email address. After I flagged this persons account, my husband then worked on the database for a while locating 14 other accounts this person had. He attempted to cheat our honest members out of a total of $97.46.

Needless to say this member will be very surprised if he tries to log in - he is history!!!!

Now onto my favorite topic AGAIN!!! I am still receiving email from members concerning referrals they had purchased. Many of you may not have read the email that explained that a new owner was taking over the site - so I have no idea how the previous owner handled the referral purchases nor do I want to know. His program obviously did not work because everyone is ###### off about the referrals. So any promises made by the previous owner are hereby declred null and void. Any previous referral purchases that were made by a member whose account does not reflect the number of referrals purchased will be set to receive free referrals when the site open again, until the purchased amount of referrals has been replaced. Once that has occurred the free referrals stauts will return to normal and you will have to get referrals from promotion or upgrading your membership.

If you are a referral addict though I suggest you visit my auctions. I sell quality ACTIVE referrals through EBay. It is the only way I will be offering referrals as the new owner. This allows me to offer the prime referrals to all of my programs instead of just one. Also, if you have any questions about what ypes of redemptions you can expect, what the upgraded membership prices will be or what payout wil be - please visit
http://www.ClickBuxx.com
the pricing for ALL of my sites will be the same in EVERY program. So if payout is $15 then it is $15 in all of them. If banner impressions are 10,000 for $2.50 then it is that way with ALL of them. Makes bookkeepping easier for me and YOU.

The only members who will be added to the new site with their referrals intact are the ones who send me their member info. Currently we have 1550 members, I have only received about 100 member emails with the requested information. Many have sent me their mailing address, or email and earnings with no other information. Use the little form above to submit this information. I do not have time to sort through paragraph after paragraph trying to find the user name and then the earnings, etc.


I will send an announcement through my other programs that 1st Profit is back up. Please join at least one of the other programs so you will be informed of this information. I cannot email each of you individually about the reopening.


Thank you for your support and I look forward to seeing onst of you when we are back online. I will send one more email this week letting you know that I am purging the system and giving a 24 hour last minute notice to those who like to wait until thelast minute. HOwever I am putting a deadline on this. I must have all member info to me no later than Thursday. Any received after that willl not be accepted because the database will all ready be purged by then.

Webmaster,

Evelyn Turner

submit the info to this email:

webmaster@1stprofit.com

it must come to me from the email you registered with or I will not accept it. If you send it from the question form on the site it will be deleted. If you do not include a reply to address it will be deleted.


Oh, a warning for those who think they can get away with cheating. Read the cheater section of the terms. As our agreement states your member info will be forwarded to every GPTR program with copies of each account showing how much you attempted to cheat the system. This email will be sent on Saturday with all cheaters sent in one package. If you think you may have 2 accounts here for whatever reason you had better email me. I have ran across one married couple I will ask this if you are married and both have an account contact me personally to discuss this. If you do not contact me then you will be tagged as cheaters and removed form the program and forwarded to the other webmasters. I will never release your information to the general public, but other site owners need to know about cheaters and rid them from their programs as well.

I do not penalize married couples as I myslef am married and both husband and myself are members of selected programs that approved the accounts. I have married couples in other programs.I understand that you want to earn together. You must contact me for approval of the second account or it will be deleted.

* a payout on Saturday March 29, 2003

see the above option cut/pasted from the above email? when i sent her my info i received this from her:


You did not understand the email?????

Please submit to me the following:

user name:

total earning:

total referrals:

Paymant options (paypal, check)



Once I have this information I will then be reviewing accounts and honest members have the choice of payout or having their funds taken back in the program when it reopens in about 10 days. CASH OUT NOW WAS NOT AN OPTION given in the email.

Due to the high amount of cheating occurring in this program ALL member accounts will be reviewed before any payout is made. CHEATERS will not be paid as per the terms and agreement of the site. ALL MEMBERS will be deleted and selected non cheating members will be reinstated upon the reopening of the site.

If you fail to send me the requested info then your account will be deleted - you will not be allowed to rejoin and you will forfeit all earnings and referrals. PLease refer to the email I sent earliler detailing the info I want you to send. Send me only that info nothing more I do not need your address or phone number. I need only what I have listed above.

This is a classic case that I mentioned of members not paying close enough attention to the email announcements sent out.

ET

Heather Colley wrote:

Heather Colley
nursecolley
colley@app-net.com

$5.4348


thank you for cashing us out before deleting the database. from the emails you have sent, it sounds like a wise decision.

good luck with the site


CASH OUT NOW WAS NOT AN OPTION ??????????????????????????

If she wanted to start Fresh she should of bought NEW Programs

PAYOUT WAS 3/29

I NEVER RECEIVED MY PAYOUT!!!

I SENT AND SAVED EVERYTHING THAT I SENT AND RECEIVED FROM HER.

SHE SPECIFIED WE COULD GET PAID BY PAYPAL OR EGOLD OR STAY WITH HER.

I SENT ALL INFORMATION AND STATED THAT I WANTED TO GET PAID.

AND NOW I MUST START OVER

TO HECK WITH THAT CHEATING WEBMASTER!!!!!

If that's the same person who now owns FillMyAccount, you should run far, far away and not look back. She's been rude and unhelpful since Day 1.

the message she left on the front page of 1stprofit webpage makes her look like a sour woman and does not make me wanna sign up there at all. Not a member of any of her other programmes but don't think i will be either.

Yes I remember sending her that information and I did sign up again on the advice of a great friend.

However, after the last email she sent me, I deleted both my membership in 1st Profit and also ClickBuxx which she also owns. I am just writing them off as a loss.

i signed up again.

i have the emails
and they clearly stated that on march 29, she would pay out.

and the old webmaster clearly stated also that THE NEW WEBMASTER PROMISED TO PAY EVERYONE!!

and dont even bother emailing her because SHE DELETES ACCOUNTS FOR ASKING QUESTIONS!!

Wow glad I quit that program a long time ago...I had alot of refs 100+ but wasnt worth it

I wish I'd have been so smart, I had the most referrals there then in any other program, as I promoted it ALOT! I lost hundreds of refs, and was very close to payout, too.