From their email



So if you don`t search they will delete you. You also must be active 75%, but he sends only searches.

SCAM!!!

I'm not a member, but is the email talking about clicking on the search links and not then seaching? then you will be deleted or If you never click on a search link you will be deleted?

And he only sends searches? Am glad I've stayed away then.


Daniel

Deleting members who click on a search link but do not perform a search is fair. I think that is what the webmaster is referring to. No one is forced to search. Specially since some don't get paid for traffic from some regions.

Yes it is fair to delete members who click and do not search. I agree with this.

Yes, but what abouth this part


He wants you to be active 75%, well even MikesPaid4email ask only 25% of you.
And with him sending only search emails, you simply must search for him

I think a member have right to skip search link if he don`t have time for it. earch should be only oprional.

BTW I have get fast reply from him:



I am waiting for another reply, I will keep you posted.

Well....I think I will mossy on over and unsub....I do not like being bullied to search....I will only search if the link is at least 1/2 a cent, and that it is optional....and they send many other paying e-mails...he says he has sent many other non searches...lol....I can tell you now, it is not that many!!....there is no way you could even get 50% active with his other links.....I am outta there......Plus, he may think you are the only one not happy......But there are lots of us...so maybe you should send him this link!

Let us know what else he says.

Is it a paid to read or a paid to search program?

Sorry Enchanted but I have to disagree with you on what's fair and what's not. Had the webmaster clearly posted on his site that this GPTREM was a "search only" program - I wouldn't have joined in the first place and promoted his program in good faith that it was indeed what I was signing up for a GPTREM and not a GPTS.

Taken directly from the frontpage:



I'd like to give my account away but I do not have the option to change my email address on this script.

That was kinda' rude of him to say. I'd say unsub and tell him to stick it!

(yes, I'm in a spiteful mood today)

LOL we all have them days

Except when you unsub, the webmaster wins. If he's using scripts that don't shift downline up, he's just gained all of your referrals plus any earnings you and your referrals have incurred.

Oh yeah, that's true. Thanks for pointing that out.

That's the biggest thing holding me back from unsubbing. Personally I'd rather give the account away than unsub after all one man's garbage is another man's treasure - but in this case it's impossible to do because you can't change your email addy. grrr

im not a member of his program, but what if one does search all of the emails but some of the times the searches just dont credit because one has received that same search engine at least 10 times that same day to click on. and the clicks just dont credit anymore? what happens then?

This w/m could get in big trouble with the engines he belongs to. Unless I am wrong, you cannot beg, force, or otherwise make anyone perform a search on your link. The account could be deleted.

I posted earlier under a different thread here:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...025&f=2&t=36570

and mentioned some about the searches, also.

This webmaster NEVER replied to me from any of the 4 times I wrote him. And I can tell you definitely, he doesn't send "MANY" other types of ads at all!!

He has his own search engine from what I can make out, and obviously doesn't care much what we think. Another like Paidemails.net. Yelling at "cheaters" for the searches when neither of these sites are promoted as search paid to's only.

Scam might be harsh, but who's cheating whom here? And with that nasty attitude over a civil email to him, who really would want to stay with that program?

Just my .00000002 cents worth! Yeah the 0's are being added steadily each day

these are the types of webmasters that you feel like dobbing into the search feed supplier they use (normally I would find this un acceptable but grr)

Sorry usdollars, I think you misunderstood.

What I meant was, most sites send search mails. Members are requested to make a search, ONLY IF they feel like searching. If anyone click on such mails, they should perform a valid search. If the WM finds out people who are clicking and not performing valid searches, then deleting them is fair. I was not referring to sites sending search mails only. It was a general comment.

If a webmaster is promoting mostly search links and expect his members to be 75% active, then that is wrong. That means, he is forcing members to search. I for one would quit such a program for two reasons.

1. Because I hate searches and DON'T search at all, even if the link is 2-3 cents or whatever the value is.

2. I have heard that some webmasters don't get paid for traffic from Asia. So it would be unfair for me to click and perform a search when I am not sure whether the webmaster is paid for the search or not.


I don't know how else to clarify my point

<------------- English is not my first language

You're correct, Enchanted. Most search sites only allow certain countries, and it would be unfair to click. I think most of the decent folks out there not cheating the system does a good job and knows this.

Sadly, this webmaster I believe has a certain control on his search engine, and every email we receive is JUST this one search site. Except for his "charity" emails which I don't mind doing.

It's the relative unconcern that he seems to be showing that's disconcerting. If he has a search paid to, he should express that upfront. But he won't do that, it seems.

And the 75% click thru he expects is definitely having to come from the emails he sends out. He does have a decent PTC section mixed, and it's not so cheap. But he sends 3 search links in anywhere from 2 to 4 emails a day, with anywhere from .0025 to .01 cents each link. And they ALL go to the exact same search engine. Well hmmmm how many good searches does he think he can get from however many members he has daily? And how will he keep members if that's the only thing he ever sends?

I joined his site from Dana's Sizzle Clicks as paid to join, and I hate to quit just for that reason alone. I haven't any refs there, and really hesitate to even promote the site in any way. I was going to send it to a couple of friends of mine, but after my questions went unanswered, and all I've been getting time after time is the same links over and over again, I wouldn't even dare to suggest they join.

He's killing his own site.

He has only himself to blame. But he would probably blame it on his members.

Hey, I agree with you 110%... In fact if I were a member (which fortunately I'm not) I'd forwarding that mail to the search engines the WM is promoting in the mails to show them that this webmaster is not only incentivizing people but FORCING people to search. Surely A LOT of them won't like and will *cancel* someone's account

I would just send the email you received from him on to a few of the search engines he uses.
I don't know if I would have done that right away, but after his reply to your email.....well, why not???

You made yourself clearer



I agree with you 110% here.



And that is exactly what this webmaster is doing

Hi

I am the Webmaster of CashViaEmail.com, I am fairly new at PTR

Okay it seems, I have been misunderstood. What I was trying to say was DO NOT click on a search link if your NOT going to do a search and click on a result.

I was only using the searches as means to give members a means to earn some money when trying to CashViaEmail.com up and running. I have been trying to attrached advertisement both PTR and PTC so that members will get paid ASAP. I hope to be able to increase the normal PTR email and reduce the search emails. Currently I have some 17 PTC banners in that section of CashViaEmail.com.

I also offer traditional banner impressions on CashViaEmail.com

I would welcome any suggestions as to how I can make things better, I have also not been recieing some the emails sent to me for some reason. I have always tried to answer questions this best that I can.

Everyone who gets to $10 will be paid. As I am a man of my word. To give you an idea here is my About Me page on eBay where I have currently a +682 rating eBay About Me Page

I have started inserting the following statement on all emails sent from CashViaEmail.com

Searches

If you don't wish to search then please don't click on the search links.

Non Active Members

Deletion will of members who have not clicked on and completed 25% of non search links or been inactive for over 30 days will be deleted.
Any comments please email me at webmaster@cashviaemail.com

Regards

Karl Breeman
CashViaEmail.com

Hi Karl, welcome to GPF.

I think my main problem with what you were doing was you were ONLY sending out search emails. If that was what this program was going to be about you should have posted that on the main page and a lot of those non-searching members wouldn't have joined. Having saved both yours and their time.

That being said, I've noticed that within the last few days, almost uncannily timed with the start of this thread, that you've been sending out regular paid ads. So that is a step in the right direction.

Thanks for dropping in

Glad to see that we aren't being forced to search. If these programs are sending nothing but searches they should re-classify themselves as paid to search...not paid to read!