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Posted: Mar 31 2003, 10:16 PM
Bill E. Branscum
OracleIntl@aol.com


I haven't read all the posts, I simply haven't the time, but I do want to comment on a couple of issues.

First, while those who promote pyramid schemes may have some exposure to criminal culpability, that is only an issue in most cases for those "at the top." Criminality hinges upon "criminal intent," often referred to as a culpable mental state.

Second, Grand Juries may or may not indict but that is getting the cart before the horse. Before we push for indictment, we move for cease and desist orders and other administrative sanctions related to the registration of securities and the licensure of those who promote them. We also file complaints with the IRS (fraud promoters are invariably tax cheats).

It is only after the entire package is put together that we send it to the Office of the United States Attorney.

If anyone has a specific complaint about 1 heluva program they wish to share, I would like to hear it BUT I should be clear that it will not be confidential. We need the individual complaints to pursue the C&D Orders - you cannot use them and maintain confidentiality but I cannot imagine why anyone victimized in a scam would be reluctant to complain.

If you wish to have your complaint considered, I will need an e-mail telling me:

Who you are
What you invested
Who you dealt with
What you received in return
The dates involved
Methods of payments tendered and received
And so forth.

OracleIntl@aol.com

If anyone is inclined to post this in other places where this program is discussed, please feel free to do so.

Thanks,

Bill E. Branscum, Investigator
Oracle International
www.OracleInternational.com
www.FraudsAndScams.com
PO Box 10728
Naples, FL 34101
(239) 304-1639
(239) 304-1640 Fax
ILostMyTrueLove
quoting above:

but I cannot imagine why anyone victimized in a scam would be reluctant to complain.






there is no scam involved aa.gif everyone gets paid every month.
JanWillem
An investing program which is pay less than you invest is a scam in my opinion ad.gif

But I don`t complain. I have nice profits with 1heluva and I`m just surfing every month now for about 4% of my investment
Watcher
QUOTE (ILostMyTrueLove @ Apr 3 2003, 03:23 AM)
quoting above:

but I cannot imagine why anyone victimized in a scam would be reluctant to complain.






there is no scam involved aa.gif everyone gets paid every month.

I beg to differ....This is ONE BIG SCAM, there is one member with amost 20 grand in their account personal and downline, his projected return 8 (EIGHT) DOLLARS, not a scam, what do you consider a scam?
twelfth
i have $100 in account my rebate for march only 65cents? oh my god how the rebate work? it really ###### me off after clicking 7000 pages am.gif
Watcher
QUOTE (twelfth @ Apr 6 2003, 03:28 PM)
i have $100 in account my rebate for march only 65cents? oh my god how the rebate work? it really ###### me off after clicking 7000 pages am.gif

Welcome to the world of 1heluva. What would you say if next month the return probably will be less than that. They are promoting their site as a way to make money, but they refuse to say who would be making it. Is it you, is it me? No, want to venture a guess who is making it. You invested 100 dollars, in 12 months that equates to 8.00 return. Now tell me is this not a scam? It amazes me that some people are stlll buying these people's lies. And the ring leader Fred is always talking about have faith, blind faith in his program. I tend to agree with a post I saw on another forum that said this man's rhetoric reminds him of a couple of people form the past who encouraged people to have blind faith in them and those people were Jim Jones and David Koresch. And we all know what happened to those people, now don't we.
jonpin
QUOTE (Watcher @ Apr 6 2003, 04:59 AM)
those people were Jim Jones and David Koresch. And we all know what happened to those people, now don't we.

Umm... I don't. Enlighten me
DarkElf
QUOTE (jonpin @ Apr 6 2003, 10:47 PM)
QUOTE (Watcher @ Apr 6 2003, 04:59 AM)
those people were Jim Jones and David Koresch. And we all know what happened to those people, now don't we.

Umm... I don't. Enlighten me

Run an internet search-lmao-was big news for awhile
kglaser
They were cult leaders; they and their followers ended up dead.
Watcher
QUOTE (jonpin @ Apr 6 2003, 10:47 PM)
QUOTE (Watcher @ Apr 6 2003, 04:59 AM)
those people were Jim Jones and David Koresch. And we all know what happened to those people, now don't we.

Umm... I don't. Enlighten me

Not knowing the past could increases the chance of a repeat in the future.
Watcher
Taken from edsphome site:

The following is an exerpt from the 1heluva chat from Fred.


Fred : You all need to call this Branscam guy and let him know you want the program to continue.

That is so sad. Sounds like a desperate man to me. He has too much gall to be believed. He steals their money, berates them for not providing more for him to steal, and then turn around and tells the members to call this "BranSCAM" (subliminal message here?) guy etc.....! In my opinion this guy is a real moron with no morally redeeming quality and is making is existence possible on the backs of other people. BTW anyone notice on the top 200 on of the hosts of this chat is up near the top of the list, no names but she no who she is, is this a coincidence?
rts234
mmmmmm!!
imajagfan
Thankfully, I have really only lost time as opposed to real cash on 1heluva, as I was paid to join under someone for actively clicking. Still, time is money, lol. Anyways, I'll never pay a dime to make a dime in any gpt program, myself! I made the mistake of earning enough at tasias for paid membership, and then earned $30 which I requested payment for last October, and still no payment! You really do learn some vauable lessons in the gpt world!!!
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