surfingtoearn
Mar 31 2003, 07:59 PM
I received an email today from Jay concerning the database loss at SherryGirls-PaidMail saying that they had lost their entire database and the backup was corrupted. I had paid for a gold membership there during the original pre-launch. So when I received this email asking me to rejoin since they had lost their database, I requested a refund on the money I had spent for gold membership.
Here is "Jay's" response:
"NO way u received your ADVERTISING !!
and u were a GOLD if you don't want 2 rejoin to bad then !!!
Your Losss Not Our ! ! "
Great customer service don't you all think? Never did receive that advertising he said I received either...oh well...I plan on staying away from his programs...
gotta add this on...i emailed him back saying:
Wow...GREAT customer service you have...and by the way I did not receive my ads....
Thanks Jay...you're proven yourself to be the unprofessional person that I've heard you are.
....his response:
yes u did ~
and since you want 2 be a jack off about u can have your lousy 15 bucks and u are banned from any and all of my programs so .
feel free 2 post this where ever u like !!!
Wow...I don't know bout you all, but i think this guy has a problem
lucyfer
Mar 31 2003, 08:09 PM
it wasnt fancy-cash........
and ive talked to quite a few gold members, who are already re-signed, and ready to go back to business as usual...
surfingtoearn
Mar 31 2003, 08:16 PM
QUOTE (lucyfer @ Mar 31 2003, 06:09 PM)
it wasnt fancy-cash........
and ive talked to quite a few gold members, who are already re-signed, and ready to go back to business as usual...
oops..u are right...it was SherryGirls-PaidMail...lol..i received the email from FancyCash...sorry
Juliette
Mar 31 2003, 08:18 PM
I must say.. there is NO excuse for rudeness.. Jay has proven over and over again that if hes having a bad day he has no problem acting like a "jackoff" when it comes to customer/user support
seems he can dish it out but can't take it
thats just MTCW..
bomberman
Mar 31 2003, 08:35 PM
What does MTCW stand for?
Juliette
Mar 31 2003, 08:37 PM
my two cents worth (opinion..)
bomberman
Mar 31 2003, 08:38 PM
Oh ok thanks I never could figure that one out
ruhappytoseeme
Mar 31 2003, 08:47 PM
omg

I didnt get the email from fancy cash and had no idea

and I am a gold member from prelaunch, sighs, I think we need a no crash internet LOL well time to sign up again, wonder why I didnt get that email> I have barely gotten any email from fancy cash and I just checked and my account is still there (fancy cash not sherrys paidmail)
jostda
Mar 31 2003, 09:31 PM

This is good to know. This is not the first bad customer or member support issue I have seen and heard about this guy.

I think I will just stay clear of this one.
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 09:43 PM
http://www.jaydillar.com/forums/showthread...&threadid=13192Here's My RESPONSE 2 This SCAMMER !
surfing2earn = SCAMMER
she gave here ads 2 Angela she used them and then this SCAMMER wants a refund and she was issued one !!!
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 09:44 PM
----- Original Message -----
From: Angela
To: webmaster@Fancy-CashEmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Gold at sherrygirls-paidmail.com
ok Sherry! I'm in!! YAY!!
akhurley
and surfingtoearn (Pam) said I can have her Gold ads...is that ok? And can I just send you my ads in a bit?
~~Angela
==================
I don't have a Problem I just hate SCAMMERS trying 2 beat ME when she gave her ads 2 akhurley and akhurley used them !!!
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 09:54 PM
Transaction Details
Payment Sent (ID #6HJ99338E6719983M)
Name:
NAME EDITED FOR PRIVACY ISSUE (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Email:
EMAIL EDITED FOR PRIVACY ISSUE Amount:
-15.00
Date:
Mar 31, 2003
Time:
19:05:44
Status:
Completed
Subject:
thanks
Note:
Jay
hope u enjoyed your free ads
Shipping Address
(Status: Confirmed)
Jaydillar Online LLC
Box 96 Washington Street
Durand, WI 54736
USA
Funding Type:
PayPal Funds
Funding Source:
$15.00 - PayPal Account
Look at the Time Stamp she was issued a refund prior to her post and was made aware who used her ads
bomberman
Mar 31 2003, 10:01 PM
But how come you said go-mamas-hosting are scammers? Are they run by surfingtoearn?
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:03 PM
QUOTE (bomberman @ Mar 31 2003, 10:01 PM)
But how come you said go-mamas-hosting are scammers? Are they run by surfingtoearn?
you bet you ~ she was going 2 lease one of our dedicated machines .
But she's NOT welcome 2 anything here NOW !
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:05 PM
what 2 read the full story there will be NO edits at my site and they will remain on all my programs as our new public service announcements listed as Scammers
tipsy
Mar 31 2003, 10:05 PM
They are not scammers... No one believe that.. I have been with them for almost six months and i will tell you that when I have a problem that are right there 24/7 and furthermore no matter what your problem is with her jay you shouldn't say that gomama is a scam your site and her gold membership has absolutely nothing to do with their hosting site.. because then you are not only talking about my hosting you are also talking about my site and I haven't done a thing to u
surfingtoearn
Mar 31 2003, 10:07 PM
come on jay....try to stay civil...I asked you to supply me with the advertisement you gave to Angela...I also asked you to let me know how much I owed you for that and I would send the money for it....so can we all stop this now...Personally I have work to do.....
And like I said in my last email to you...there was no need for this. I asked you a simple question which you responded to very rudely.....If you had replied reasonably with No, I'm sorry but no refund can be issued because of the fact we sent out an ad for you via Angela (without confirmation by me btw), I would have accepted that...even though my understanding that payment for gold membership is paying for much more than a paid ad.....
Like I requested, send me how much I owe.......
so can we all stop this now...Personally I have work to do.....
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:09 PM
tipsy Posted on Mar 31 2003, 10:05 PM
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They are not scammers... No one believe that.. I have been with them for almost six months and i will tell you that when I have a problem that are right there 24/7 and furthermore no matter what your problem is with her jay you shouldn't say that gomama is a scam your site and her gold membership has absolutely nothing to do with their hosting site.. because then you are not only talking about my hosting you are also talking about my site and I haven't done a thing to u
I can Only see this when I click edit ?
and we are currently offering 2 free jays solo free site transfer and free paidmail site conversion 2 cash crusader scripts
plus 2 free months hosting 2 move away from these SCAMMERS
jostda
Mar 31 2003, 10:09 PM

I am a program owner with this person as a gold member from day one.
I have no problems with her, she is acutally one of the most honest and reliable people I know. You know better than putting people's personal info up. Gosh that just burns me to no end.
You on the other hand, I have seen how you treat people and have my own opinions and will not voice them. I have manners!
And as far as time stamps that can be forged just as quickly as anything..
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:11 PM
I refuse 2 lay off a dedicated scammer
and your my new Scammer at 6pm Live Show !
So set back and enjoy .
I reach 30,000 + people right now more then all your peoples sites combined :ph34r:
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:12 PM
any way I'm Outta here got scammers 2 expose
and surf my happy self back home 2 JOF
Home Sweet Home Sweet Home
jostda
Mar 31 2003, 10:14 PM
I just had to say one last thing.
You think that you can lure people away from a family enviroment, where people make you feel at home? Make you feel as though your problems no matter how large or small will be taken care of.
You can' believe that people would rather go to a host that offers "i dunno, it's your problem" as the response to a problem?
Get for Real!
tipsy
Mar 31 2003, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:09 PM)
tipsy Posted on Mar 31 2003, 10:05 PM
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They are not scammers... No one believe that.. I have been with them for almost six months and i will tell you that when I have a problem that are right there 24/7 and furthermore no matter what your problem is with her jay you shouldn't say that gomama is a scam your site and her gold membership has absolutely nothing to do with their hosting site.. because then you are not only talking about my hosting you are also talking about my site and I haven't done a thing to u
I can Only see this when I click edit ?
and we are currently offering 2 free jays solo free site transfer and free paidmail site conversion 2 cash crusader scripts
plus 2 free months hosting 2 move away from these SCAMMERS
you couldn't offer me enough to make me move.. I know they are not scammers and I think it's horrible that you would come up here and state this without any proof just because you want to get her for posting a complaint about one of your sites... or is it just a ploy to try to hurt the reputation of your competition?
freeandeasy
Mar 31 2003, 10:23 PM
Jay is SO juvenile.
Making false accusations is just like him, though, when he feels threatened.
DGE1754
Mar 31 2003, 10:24 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 10:12 PM)
any way I'm Outta here got scammers 2 expose
and surf my happy self back home 2 JOF
Home Sweet Home Sweet Home
hhmmm well glad you have a forum to go to...always good to have a place to call home...just strange how the downline builder is here is quite popular with your wife(NO offense to Sherry actually I like her) ...not a good enough downline builder at JOF?
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:24 PM
It Boils down
2 the plain and simple TRUTH this person tried 2 cheat me out of duplicate ads and Money .
She gave her ads 2 akhurley they were issued .
Then she tell me I'm full of Sh*T she never got her ads and basically demands a refund ...
That is plain and Simply an Attempt to SCAM me and my members from Cash.
Kristin
Mar 31 2003, 10:25 PM
...
mthrelk
Mar 31 2003, 10:26 PM
I have been with go-mama-hosting for a little while and I have absolutely no complaints at all. They answer your questions in a hurry and deal with any problems that may arise with the sites. They are very reliable and I am not leaving them, ever. I could say how many things I have seen and heard but I won't because I won't stoop to that level Some people are just threatened by people who actually care about the people they work with.
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:27 PM
QUOTE (freeandeasy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:23 PM)
Jay is SO juvenile.
Making false accusations is just like him, though, when he feels threatened.
By you and your Joke Programs
I host over 400 domains and I don't see GoMamma as an Option
at MEC either u host with MEC or Jays ...
So NO no one threats me
SPAM REMOVED
lol that's what 25 new hosting accounts this week alone
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:29 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 10:27 PM)
QUOTE (freeandeasy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:23 PM)
Jay is SO juvenile.
Making false accusations is just like him, though, when he feels threatened.
By you and your Joke Programs
I host over 400 domains and I don't see GoMamma as an Option
at MEC either u host with MEC or Jays ...
So NO no one threats me
SPAM REMOVED
lol that's what 25 new hosting accounts this week alone

So keep On Promoting My Hosting every time you people send a Cash Crusader Ad
SherryGirl
Mar 31 2003, 10:29 PM
QUOTE (DGE1754 @ Mar 31 2003, 11:24 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 10:12 PM)
any way I'm Outta here got scammers 2 expose
and surf my happy self back home 2 JOF
Home Sweet Home Sweet Home
hhmmm well glad you have a forum to go to...always good to have a place to call home...just strange how the downline builder is here is quite popular with your wife(NO offense to Sherry actually I like her) ...not a good enough downline builder at JOF?
Do you promote in mopre than one place DGE1754??
Like your avatar btw
freeandeasy
Mar 31 2003, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 10:27 PM)
QUOTE (freeandeasy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:23 PM)
Jay is SO juvenile.
Making false accusations is just like him, though, when he feels threatened.
By you and your Joke Programs
What joke program?
Is something wrong with freeandeasy?
tipsy
Mar 31 2003, 10:33 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:27 PM)
By you and your Joke Programs
excuse me but last i checked her JOKE program received the seal of approval.. I wonder how many of your sites has the seal of approval??? hmmmmmmmmmmm
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:35 PM
One Last thing quite a few people I see here are in fact running Jays-QualityHosting dedicated servers they just don't even know it.
and quite a few people spouting off are on my servers and just don't know it as well :ph34r:
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:35 PM
QUOTE (tipsy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:33 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:27 PM)
By ?you ?and ?your ? Joke ? Programs ?
excuse me but last i checked her JOKE program received the seal of approval.. I wonder how many of your sites has the seal of approval??? hmmmmmmmmmmm
well 2 so Far

what does sparkless mail have ?
moonieb
Mar 31 2003, 10:40 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Apr 1 2003, 02:54 PM)
It Boils down
2 the plain and simple TRUTH this person tried 2 cheat me out of duplicate ads and Money .
She gave her ads 2 akhurley they were issued .
Then she tell me I'm full of Sh*T she never got her ads and basically demands a refund ...
That is plain and Simply an Attempt to SCAM me and my members from Cash.
Jay...The initial complaint was about the way you spoke in your e-mail response to her........and it was rude....You had no idea what was about to unfold, so you can not justify the way you responded back to her.
A goldmembership is more than an ad....It also gives you free referals, which she would have had.....and there is no gaurantee she would get as many this time around as a LOT of people dont sign back up for sites that lose all data( I certainly dont)....so it was a valid question by this person in the first instant.
So what I am focused on was your rudeness, yet again, at a simple question.
tipsy
Mar 31 2003, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:35 PM)
QUOTE (tipsy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:33 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:27 PM)
By ?you ?and ?your ? Joke ? Programs ?
excuse me but last i checked her JOKE program received the seal of approval.. I wonder how many of your sites has the seal of approval??? hmmmmmmmmmmm
well 2 so Far

what does sparkless mail have ?
Look here bud... I didn't start this.. MY members know that I treat them right and I don't care what you want to start trying to do... Why do this jay.. that's horrible to try to make me look bad when you are bashing my hosting site all over a gold membership complaint... My members are the most important people to me in the world and they know I would never do them wrong and it doesn't matter that I don't (which my site does not qualify yet cause it hasn't been opened long enough and they are redoing their rules but if you must know I was awarded the diamondweb award thank you very much.. my members must think I do pretty good... start don't start in on my site you are horrible...
lachlanm
Mar 31 2003, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Apr 1 2003, 02:05 PM)
QUOTE (tipsy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:33 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:27 PM)
By ?you ?and ?your ? Joke ? Programs ?
excuse me but last i checked her JOKE program received the seal of approval.. I wonder how many of your sites has the seal of approval??? hmmmmmmmmmmm
well 2 so Far

what does sparkless mail have ?
Sparky-mail has respect, something you have lost.
I respected you until i just read this thread.
Sorry Jay
Jays-PaidMail
Mar 31 2003, 10:44 PM
QUOTE (tipsy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:42 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:35 PM)
QUOTE (tipsy @ Mar 31 2003, 10:33 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:27 PM)
By ?you ?and ?your ? Joke ? Programs ?
excuse me but last i checked her JOKE program received the seal of approval.. I wonder how many of your sites has the seal of approval??? hmmmmmmmmmmm
well 2 so Far

what does sparkless mail have ?
Look here bud... I didn't start this.. MY members know that I treat them right and I don't care what you want to start trying to do... Why do this jay.. that's horrible to try to make me look bad when you are bashing my hosting site all over a gold membership complaint... My members are the most important people to me in the world and they know I would never do them wrong and it doesn't matter that I don't (which my site does not qualify yet cause it hasn't been opened long enough and they are redoing their rules but if you must know I was awarded the diamondweb award thank you very much.. my members must think I do pretty good... start don't start in on my site you are horrible...
I like ya anyhow ~
and now you made me fee bad
So Long live SparkyMail
moonieb
Mar 31 2003, 10:46 PM
I have actually heard a lot of complaints about your hosting Jay....about your lack of answering e-mails and taking too long to get to things etc etc......
So dont be too cocky ol chap
wonderdirndel
Mar 31 2003, 10:47 PM
This is getting out of hand can we all take a breather and relax?? Most of us know pam and ang at Go-Mama and KNOW they aren't here to scam anybody. Most of us know Jay or Sherry and know they are having a tough time and perhaps it is getting to Jay right now.
Just walk away from the computer for an hour.... have a coffee and a smoke....... and slow down.
Then rationally sort this out. No one wants anyone to lose face and slinging mud isn't going to help.
Just my two cents.
danimal3d
Mar 31 2003, 11:03 PM
I'll give a dillar for a sucker? or a Srock...we have all been scamed by both they seem the same.
This kind of attitude is pathetic.
You want people in you business you provide what you promise,,,no questions...no excuses....
No Jay I'm will never be in your programs...couldn't care less...and your posts show why,
(this part edited)
behappy
Mar 31 2003, 11:03 PM
I am amazed, by the posts - I am reading! I agree with wonderdirndel. Sit back and breathe.
I belong to a lot of programs and there is some I still don't. And after reading the behavior of some webmasters who are supposed to be adults - I sure don't want to join some of them either. There is no time and place to be rude to customers, regardless if you interpret them to be rude to you!
Enchanted
Mar 31 2003, 11:19 PM
QUOTE (behappy @ Apr 1 2003, 05:03 AM)
I am amazed, by the posts - I am reading! I agree with wonderdirndel. Sit back and breathe.
I belong to a lot of programs and there is some I still don't. And after reading the behavior of some webmasters who are supposed to be adults
The other webmasters are defending their programs in an adult like manner. SOME is not the correct word here. I'd rather use "ONE".
DGE1754
Mar 31 2003, 11:21 PM
QUOTE (SherryGirl @ Mar 31 2003, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE (DGE1754 @ Mar 31 2003, 11:24 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 10:12 PM)
any ?way ?I'm ?Outta ?here ?got ?scammers ? 2 ?expose
and ? surf ?my ?happy ?self ?back ? home ?2 ?JOF
Home ?Sweet ?Home ?Sweet Home
hhmmm well glad you have a forum to go to...always good to have a place to call home...just strange how the downline builder is here is quite popular with your wife(NO offense to Sherry actually I like her) ...not a good enough downline builder at JOF?
Do you promote in mopre than one place DGE1754??
Like your avatar btw
Thanks about the avatar...had to show my support for the USA

Anyways yes Sherry I do promote in alot of places of course thats true....what I was responding to was Jays comment about JOF being Home Sweet Home if thats the case and he feels more at home there and it seems he doesnt like it here then why just use the downline builder here?
Meaning I am sure it benefits you both when you yourself start threads in the downline builder.
Anyways I guess this is off subject and I shouldnt have commented but I wanted to reply to your post
I have no beef with you Sherry never have
behappy
Mar 31 2003, 11:27 PM
QUOTE (Enchanted @ Apr 1 2003, 01:19 PM)
QUOTE (behappy @ Apr 1 2003, 05:03 AM)
I am amazed, by the posts - I am reading! I agree with wonderdirndel. Sit back and breathe.
I belong to a lot of programs and there is some I still don't. And after reading the behavior of some webmasters who are supposed to be adults
The other webmasters are defending their programs in an adult like manner. SOME is not the correct word here. I'd rather use "ONE".
Sorry Enchanted! I guess I figured that "SOME" would no who he was! And I wouldn't have to point fingers. I do believe the other webmasters are defending there program and doing it very Professionally.
Since " I don't have any first hand dealings with"Some"

, what I am seeing in here isn't impressing me!
Sorry , if others took offense! No intention to do so!
Enchanted
Mar 31 2003, 11:33 PM
amysrewards4mail
Apr 1 2003, 03:35 AM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:05 PM)
what 2 read the full story there will be NO edits at my site and they will remain on all my programs as our new public service announcements listed as Scammers
Jay hun , please don't do that
amysrewards4mail
Apr 1 2003, 03:35 AM
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 11:11 PM)
I refuse 2 lay off a dedicated scammer
and your my new Scammer at 6pm Live Show !
So set back and enjoy .
I reach 30,000 + people right now more then all your peoples sites combined :ph34r:
Jay..........
amysrewards4mail
Apr 1 2003, 03:37 AM
QUOTE (DGE1754 @ Mar 31 2003, 11:24 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Mar 31 2003, 10:12 PM)
any way I'm Outta here got scammers 2 expose
and surf my happy self back home 2 JOF
Home Sweet Home Sweet Home
hhmmm well glad you have a forum to go to...always good to have a place to call home...just strange how the downline builder is here is quite popular with your wife(NO offense to Sherry actually I like her) ...not a good enough downline builder at JOF?
That's not cool to make a crack at Sherry.
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