I'm looking forward to 12daily's new sites that should roll out here soon but, does anyone have leads about any program that is as solid & reliable as 12DP?

Here's my criteria:
U.S. based
Servers in US
Funding through PayPal (hopefully)
Forum
Must be paying on a consistent basis
No downtime
Referral commission
Allow more than one account
Surf cycle less than 40 days
1:1 ratio
2% at least; if not, justify less
20 second timer or better
Fewer than 100 sites (think 12 sites)
No IP issues

If you can come up with a site that meets those criteria I will consider becoming a referral to you & typically I fully fund my accounts, none of this $40 dollars thinking I'm a high roller nonsense.

Thanks,

element

Paid Response covers all of those except it only pays 1% daily. And you dont even have to surf at all anymore But they will be putting the autosurf bar back up later, then you have to surf 50 sites.

PS: If you sign under me I will give you half of the referral commission back

It doesn't meet his requirement for a surf cycle less than 40 days either.

oops....what does that mean though?

Like, how long it takes to get your original investment back. For instance, 12dp has a 12 day cycle (well, 19 if you count the turn around on payouts).

12DailyPro's going to launch another site in Oct.

Another autosurf? Similar or different?

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I would assume another site as in an addition to their "network". Sort of like how ST did. Diversifying.

12dailypro said there are going to launch another site by October 1st

At the moment there is no real alternative to 12Daily Pro. Not only are the most solid program they are the most generous. They have contributed to hurricane victims in a real and practical way. Please have a look at this link to see what I mean:
12DP Hurricane Appeal Donation

This program has been well thought out from the start. They have great member support and on-time payments. This is the best program since Studio Traffic was launched!

if they are opening another site. .. they must be going really well, if they were broke no reason why they would open a 2nd site.

Isn't Next-Gen more efficient for a little longer period (30 days + payment) ?

Don't agree, maybe they foresee some cash issues for the coming months and with a new autosurf program they can get extra money fast.

THere is a new program like it :

http://www.fifteensurf.com

Hi Gray
It may become that perhaps, but cannot be compared to 12Daily Pro at the moment. i like the short cycle, ontime payments and huge confidence in 12DP. Any news?

Regards
Ozilinx

Hi Oz

I was only speaking about potential earnings of course, confidence is something to build up on long term, but I see it as the only nearer competitor actually, the only high earner with short cycle that didn't disappeared

Not yet, my siggy will let you know

Cheers,
Gray Eminence

Gray
Do you have any info on history and PO? I also like to make sure that a site has good management. Theres not a lot of stuff online.
Regards
Ozilinx

Not at all lol, you're my source or info most of the time ;-)
I don't know all those autosurfs forum where i should be able to find the info but i only read good feedback so far (always when the site are pretty new lol)

Are you saying that PR uses PE just to get extra money? I'm sure many people would disagree on that.

Anyway, 12DailyPro is not starting another autosurf program.

It is said in the news it would start another new site on Oct, 1. But it didn't indicate it was whether another autosurf program.

er.. open a second site and get a bunch more money invested before you run. open a third site even better.

not saying that will happen of course, just saying your logic is flawed

Idle minds make idle words...

Paid Response did it with paid Exposure and where have they run to? Studio Traffic did it with Studiopay and where have they run to?

There is a hottest one lately which is supa10.com

I am not sure if this will pay but the admin seems good. Let's see on the payday 25 sept.

12DailyPro did state it will not be another autosurf program.

http://mylifeclicks.net/smf/index.php?PHPS...g10706#msg10706

That does not prove your point. All I am saying is there definatly is a reason why a site would open a second one even if they are broke or not going to pay. Pointing out that some sites add a second program because they are doing good does not dispute my argument.

Sorry if I misunderstood you. I wasn't making a point. I doubt if anyone is going to open a second autosurf site if they are broke. Who's going to join?

12DP is not opening a second autosurf site, so the point does not appear to be valid anyway. Happy Surfing!

Cheers

i am too waiting to join like a 12 dailypro
i love 12daily pro too

Regards
suresh

Take a look at MMG, not so many info but some
Looks still stable and normally paydy is approching or passed for the first investors, so we should heard about

Cheers,
Gray Eminence

Nothing better than 12dp for a high % autosurf at the moment

don't waste money in little sites that will fall in a couple of months

how long will 12dp last who can tell?

You might like to investigate and try Rapid Surf Daily.

Very nice, reliable AutoSurf paying 5% daily for 40 days.

Plenty of referral levels.

PM me for my referral link if interested or see my signature.

I think Fast Market is better than 12Daily.

The thing is with 12% sites you never know when they will fall. I would stick with 1% sites like PR.

fast market will give you R.O.I Of Who many %?

autosurf needs everyday committement what if you go for holidays

i've come across this website somewhat similiar to 12dp and i think i'll be the no. 1 competitor of 12dp

http://hotshorturl.com/bg67

12Daily pro has a short cycle where any problems can be quickly determined. 1% sites have a very long wait to break even. In the meantime they could go belly up.

That's why 12DPro is the best...and still paying on time.

Perhaps 12dailypro pays out - I will never join it.

When I look at my firewall's logfile the 12dailypro server tried to attack my pc more than 41.000 times up to now and since the program started. They tried to access every possible port on my pc although I'm no member of this program.

I am always looking for opportunities to make some extra money for my family - but I will never join a program that "lives by" attacking other peoples pcs.

By the way: 12dailypro is related to scamming program "paradisepaid2surf"

are you serious?

@ hanzahar: Yes, I am serious about that.

These are two screenshots of my firewalls' log files only from today:

http://nessaya.ne.funpic.de/12daily.html

Edit: Sorry, the headlines are in german because I am german.

How is it related to paradisepaid2surf?
How did they get attracted to your IP address?

you know what....
the firewall always reported that...
in my firewall...
I always got an attack from my own ISP..
how's that...
it's not really exactly an attack.. it's just ping.... just checking your comp's response...

i'll invest the new site!would u?

Invest in reliable autosurf like paidresponse,ST,12dailypro to have better chance to get payment.

A couple of weeks ago - when paradisepaid2surf admitted to be in financial troubles - there was an admin emal by Marshal (the owner of pp2s) that the admin of 12dailypro joint the pp2s team and the members of pp2s were invited to join 12dailypro, too.

That was the time, the attacks on my pc started - and a short period after that announcement pp2s stopped payouts.

The pings are not from the main server. Maybe they were checking for a hacker on behalf of PP2S.. Perhaps they were going to help them with security problems PP2S had. 12DP has good security.

If it was a security check from pp2s the attacking server was the pp2s server - not the 12dailypro server. And the "verifiying server" would attempt to get access to one port of my pc - instead of attempting access to all ports of my pc.

12dailypro has been attacking my pc for weeks on all possible ports. If they continue doing so I will report them to the police.

Virginia
I think you may have misunderstood me. All autosurf sites are paranoid about security. If someone pings them they want to know who they are and ping back. A month or so ago I was doing a whois to find out more about the 12DP site. Part of that whois does a traceroute which they pick up on their server. I received some pings back that were from them.I don't know what firewall you use but the one I use allows me to do a traceroute or a ping to find out what the server is. If I did this all the time they would be suspecting I am a hacker so they ping or traceroute back to determine who it is. I suspect that this is what has happened to you. If you were getting messages such as user admin, user adam etc in the packets you received then that would mean that someone is trying to break in. Pings are a normal part of net life and extensively used by those who are security consious. Because PP2S was having problems with security I was only suggesting that 12DP may have been doing a security check on their behalf. They are the only site that has not had major problems with DoS and DDoS attacks and I suggest that others would look to them for advice and perhaps get them to do checks on their behalf as well. They may have even thought that you are a hacker. That is why they would be pinging all ports. I suggest you email them or join the forum and PM Charis or one of the mods and explain the situation. In doing this you will have proven that you are not an attacker and the pings should stop.

hmm...

i dont understand abt all this hacker thingy but is it safe?

i mean,so far i've been in 12dp for more then a month nothing happen

I think this is about how 12dailypro ultimately prevenst ddos attacks and hackers and it's not associated with other autosurf like pp2 as mentioned.