If you are installing a paid program for someone and a file got corrupted and you did not know it and a programmer was called by the hosting company and not by you. Is it right for the host to go and talk to someone else about the issue and this other person had nothing to do with it to begin with ???

The other person went talking to other and now a good name is ruined is this right ??? Let me and everybody else know your opinion here !

Guess what it is illegal, if you do not have a contract with the host and you have no server from the host and the host did not ask you if they could tell someone lese then they have no right to talk about you. This is America and we do have the right to privacy and freedom of speech.

Sorry for your troubles, but you might want to read the Constitution and then rethink your last paragraph

I do not need to read, when I do work for a client don't they expect privacy , yes they do..... I am no different what I do is my business and not the business of others outside my agreement .....

Would you want your information displyed in the open ?? No you would'nt .......

But thanks for the laugh though .. you need to learn I have been online for over 10 years I know what I talk about ....

correct me if im wrong but i dont think the constitution says anything about there being a right to privacy

i know theres freedom of speech though =D

Oh boy!

Matois is an attorney......

I think she knows what is right and what is wrong......

Attorney or not it does not matter, if someone discuss your personal business without your knowledge it is illegal ...... Gee why is there a privacy act ??? Why are they posted all over the Internet ????

Duh !!!!!! Get real ......

Wait a minute! Just because you have a ###### with Richard don't come here and take it out on me!

I was just informing you......

Now I think you need to go and uh......Get Real!

Not a good way to start out your "life" in this forum if you are looking for someone to sympathize with you!

Sorry, But you just lost my vote!

The constitution does not gaurantee privacy.

If you expect privacy you need to make sure you do not breech a contract yourself. This sounds to me like you have an issue with a site that you were supposed to be working on and the site owner has every right to get outside help if you are not fixing the issues in question no matter what the reason.

As far as privacy I don't think it is unreasonable for a site owner to tell a host who designed/fixed or was working on the site prior to accessing outside help.

And furthermore if the site in question is the one I am thinking of then the site owner had every right to seek outside help AND to let the new programmer know who made a mess of it in the first place. This would not be an issue if you had done a fantastic job and the site owner was praising your work and wanted to refer others to you.

After all isn't that what word of mouth advertising is all about?

It goes both ways!

If you have ever eaten at a restaurant and had really poor service you would tell others about it just as you would recommend a really good restaurant to others.

You say you have been online for 10 years well that doesn't carry alot of weight because almost anyone can dabble in things on the internet and be either good or bad at what they do. What does matter is your reputation.

At this point your main concern is just that your reputation.

If you have any valid issues you wish to bring to my attention and air in front of others then this is the place to do so.

For the moment I reserve the right to my opinion because if in deed you are the designer of the site I am referring to I have been behind the scenes seeing the results of your work and seen the results of another person. It was an amazing difference to see what a person who understood the scripts and new how to fix the issues could do in a very short span of time!

If this is not the case then I apologize for my assumptions, but there are too many similarities between the site in question and your posts to believe anything else.

Sorry about this KensLuv. Yes her problem with with Richard and me. Although Richard told me all about their deal, it was Richard and she who were dealing with each other. So I too would have preferred if she kept to that instead of coming here and making these allegations.

Not a problem, Enchanted.....

I can handle the rantings of a psychotic person......Afterall, I am one!

I just want to see how she deals with SF now.....

*getting my popcorn*

This is gonna get good!!

My post was not about no Richard or KensLuv ( who I do not know ).

THis is a seperate issue and you should have not taking it wrong, you should have asked, I never said Richard breached a privacy agreemnt ....

Thank you

Duh! No popcorn here. Hand me over some will you?

Then why ask?

Please, Matios, talk that sweet attorney language that we all love to hear!

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG...YOU carck me up...I can talk about anyone I feel like.....it is not illegal to talk about other people, for goodness sakes......NO way do I believe you are an adult, as there is no way an adult could say those things with a straight face, and believe it!....hehehehe....still laughing!

Privacy is voluntary in most cases except for certain circumstances regarding social security numbers, tax information, veteran status, credit data, HHS HPAA benefits, and if a website actively collects personally identifying information in the normal course of business and cannot conduct business without the collection of such data. The Federal Trade Commission provides guidelines on privacy.

If you willingly supplied personal information to the owner of a website without insisting on seeing if they had a privacy policy, then you have no expectation to a right of privacy. The only minor exceptions are as noted above, and if information displayed was inaccurate -- even if it was bad information, as long as it was accurate and you didn't challenge a posted privacy policy, you have no recourse.

As well, the 1st Amendment does not apply to private entities such as corporations, businesses, including privately owned websites. The 1st Amendment was written to protect people if they chose to speak out about the government, practice a different religion, and for the press to publish accurate information without fear of retribution.

Is this stuff even TAUGHT in the schools anymore? It amazes me at how misinformed folks are, and I don't say that to offend anyone, because folks SHOULD know what their rights are and are not, and feel comfortable knowing what protection they do and don't have.


LOL - I'm quite real. DUH back to you, dear And since you're such a veteran internet user, I'll take it one more -- I've been on this mess since it was ARPANET. Were you even born then?

P.S to KensLuv -- wish granted, and I'm a she

You say you are concerned about breeching privacy yet in another thread you offer to do just that.

Anyone who cares to can go here and read it for themselves.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...=0&#entry475016

firstly, you picked a great alias if your aim was to be as sarcastic as possible

secondly, if your statement is correct, i'm a criminal everyday... i discuss the personal business of heaps of people... there is no intrinsic 'right to privacy'... if privacy is granted it is done within the conditions of the agreement between parties... an agreement between parties in itself does not necessitate a right to privacy

Hoo Yah!!



Double Hoo Yah!!! Me too! You go girl!!!

Actually, the Amendment and US Constitution end when you log onto the internet.

Take this forum for example, I think you will find it is in Hong Kong.

Your connection to the internet isnt your right either, it's a privilege. Just as is using any site a privilege.

Here is a suggestion to sweetthing. Find that thread in this folder called People Who Need A Life. That is what you need. Sorry, attacking Richard and Enchanted, and now privacy issues. What next? The color of our underwear? :ph34r:

here's some more information on her/his upsetness with similiar subject..

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...471&f=2&t=38049

Heres the Right Version ROFLMAO

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...347&f=2&t=38095

People who live in glass houses should NOT throw stones

And now, I get to throw my 2 cents into the ring.....

I've read all of the posts and all I see are contradictions by you sweetthing. You say you worked for free, yet you got upgraded membership and advertising. You post that you took away the scripts, then you say - don't accuse me of doing that without any proof. You defame the name of TKO yet when they defend themselves, you ask that they don't defame your 'business".
What are you doing?

If you thought that by coming here you would incite trouble against Richard and Dil and the TKO Group, then I'm sorry honey, it has backfired big time!!! Everyone is aware that TKO had some trouble, and both Richard and Dil worked very hard to get the sites and the name of TKO back to what it was. And I believe that they did a brilliant job.

Yes there are still people waiting to be paid, but there have also been a few things that have happened that members are not aware of. Richard does not "air out" his problems to his members. I won't go into details as I don't believe Richard would want me to. If he wants to tell people about what is going on then I will let him do that. Needless to say, this whole issue has been one of them.

And from reading another post, it seems you tried to do similar things to both sites. Both webmasters have made their comments here if anyone wants to read -
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...347&f=2&t=38095

I am a moderator at TKO forum and even though I knew that there was a problem with the sites, neither Richard or Dil EVER said anything about you. Not your name, your business, the problems between you, NOTHING. They didn't whinge, moan, backstab or act like spoilt brats. All they said was that there was a problem with the sites and they will try and fix it. Now I don't know anything about the privacy laws. BUT, I do know about integrity and lady, you have none!! Your behaviour here shows that - and you know what, you started this yourself and you only have yourself to blame.


And just so that everyone knows, these are the threads I read and am making references to -
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...448&f=2&t=38043
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...448&f=2&t=38049

Practice what you preach !!!

And as for the underwear thing .... you're just dying to find that sort of information out !!!!

To in2travel: If you would have read the post here you would have seen that nothing in the privacy thing had to do with Richard, TKO Group, Dil , or Tyliapays owner.. assuming that it did just go to show how much people really need to learn before they open there Trap ......

Thanks for the comments though ... read the thread again please ...

Sweetthing the issue is NOT that you made statements regarding richard and privacy.

The issue is that by cross-referencing 2 different posts about 2 different sites you claim that privacy is very important to you, yet you are willing to post private information about richard.

Isn't that saying that it's okay for you to do it, but not for someone else to do it?

You can not come here whining and complaining and say "I want your opinion on this" and not expect some negative responses to it.

You have made alot of contradictory statements and po'ed alot of people here by saying that you expect people to keep your privacy but you won't do the same for anyone else.

If you can't take the heat baby get out of the fire!!!!!

I am beginning to wonder if you seriously need some help to deal with your instability in the emotional department because if so I can recommend some very good and helpful people.

That was not a jab at you in the least and if you choose to take it as an insult then I am sorry to have offended you. I am just trying to offer you some help because I think you need it!

Strange that you come here, start three threads, and they all have NOTHING to do with one another? I don't need to read the thread again. From what I can see, everyone knows who and what you are talking about anyway. You have managed to defame two webmasters, a host, and peeve off a number of members in this forum. Don't blame me if you're not getting any popularity votes here!!

And do not tell me when I should or shouldn't open my "Trap". It has a mind of it's own and does what it likes!!

Ok, since I am the host you are referring to, I feel like I should say something. I told you last night, if you have a problem with me, come to me, you have my AIM contact. I also told you last night that this has nothing to do with me. Period!!

I may talk to whoever I want to about anything to do with my servers so long as I do not give out my client's confidential information. Notice I said MY clients.

If you have something to say to me, come to me.

There you people go again, you say its me you are talking about its me. Get a life I did not mention no webmasters or host in this thread. It has nothing to do with anyone that posted here.......

If you do not like what I say then leave ....... Thata alll I have to say !!

So then apart from the webmasters, host and members that have posted here, you've pi$$ed others off as well??

Impressive!!

I have just caught up with all the posts here, and think that enough is enough, nothing is going to change now and thanks to members that support TKO I will get Paid2Read back to normal and Madams Money fixed.

Sweething I am saying this to be polite, as normaly I do not post alot on forums and keep things to myself and that may not be the best way to deal with them, but this time I think I was right as all you are doing is causing problems for yourslef and you own business.

You are no longer working on any TKO sites, you have the scripts I brought, so instead of cousing more embrassment. Why not just now call it a day. As I said TKO will get its sites fixed and back to normal.

I have learn from this and think your will have to.

Thier is more going on now than to keep posting on here. I have work to do and may not get it right the first time and the second time but will do my best to, and think that you should get on to.

Richard

If you like like what others have to say about you? Then you should be the one to leave, not us. You attacked several honest people in here.