arho
Mar 5 2003, 01:35 PM
When CashRoad changed script, deleting everybody's downlines and made members resignup, they said that all earnings over 1$ in the old program would be paid before end February.
I must admit, I was a little sceptical and so far I haven't received my earnings.
Do they owe money to any of you as well ??
cwce9
Mar 5 2003, 01:37 PM
They still owe me $1 from last month.
GRL VenCap
Mar 5 2003, 01:40 PM
their latest email sent today said they will be making payments today soon
had some personal and family issues to attend
arho
Mar 5 2003, 01:56 PM
QUOTE (GRL VenCap @ Mar 6 2003, 03:40 AM)
their latest email sent today said they will be making payments today soon
had some personal and family issues to attend
Thanks for your reply.
Looking forward to that.
GRL VenCap
Mar 5 2003, 04:35 PM
QUOTE (arho @ Mar 5 2003, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE (GRL VenCap @ Mar 6 2003, 03:40 AM)
their latest email sent today said they will be making payments today soon
had some personal and family issues to attend
Thanks for your reply.
Looking forward to that.
me too
womanfish
Mar 6 2003, 09:45 AM
Hrm, day after payday. Anybody get paid yet?
moblizer
Mar 6 2003, 09:49 AM
Nope they still owe me $2
womanfish
Mar 6 2003, 09:53 AM
Yup, they owe me $6 and change. According to their message board over half of the old membership has been paid. What's funny is I know a lot of the old members and none of them is part of that half. Really makes me want to keep clicking and searching at the new site.
billiev
Mar 6 2003, 10:42 AM
......still waiting
and guess what?? Paid link doesn't work for me because my ISP
still doesn't recognive the new address DNS (or whatever it's called

)
zhangxuezhi
Mar 6 2003, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (arho @ Mar 6 2003, 03:35 AM)
When CashRoad changed script, deleting everybody's downlines and made members resignup, they said that all earnings over 1$ in the old program would be paid before end February.
I must admit, I was a little sceptical and so far I haven't received my earnings.
Do they owe money to any of you as well ??
I think CashRoad may be a scam
bumprhi
Mar 6 2003, 11:53 PM
Still Waiting.......$15.82
LoriLou
Mar 7 2003, 11:41 AM
still waiting too.....$14.92
edithje
Mar 7 2003, 12:10 PM
We are very busy working on the payouts. As GRL said, there was an email sent to the entire membership, about the payments.
And zhangxuezhi: No! CashRoad is no scam!
For those using the PTC that have providers who haven't updated yet: just use the back-button, that works thesame.
And I was an old member too and have even paid some members personally. So I KNOW FOR A FACT that payments are being made!
Personal problems can occur. Webmasters have a life too. The webmaster was honest about it and informed anyone through an email as soon as he got home. What more do you want?
YOU WILL BE PAID!!!! Just take my word on that one, ok?
moblizer
Mar 7 2003, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (edithje @ Mar 7 2003, 07:10 PM)
YOU WILL BE PAID!!!! Just take my word on that one, ok?
OK,
kglaser
Mar 7 2003, 03:51 PM
Thanks for the update edithje.
Sabrina
Mar 8 2003, 03:37 AM
Haven't received the payment since requested it long time ago.
It seems dead.
Susy
Mar 8 2003, 12:05 PM
Nope, haven't received my payment yet either.
lori15370
Mar 8 2003, 12:18 PM
still waiting on my payment too!!!
hkarl
Mar 8 2003, 12:49 PM
Maybe they will pay us some days.
Susy
Mar 12 2003, 11:57 PM
Almost at the end of March 12 here...anyone been paid yet? I haven't. Just wondering.
kglaser
Mar 13 2003, 12:26 AM
I haven't received my $3.69 yet. I feel that since we were told, over a week ago, that we'd have our earnings at that time, that all members are entitled to an update. I wish they'd send us one and let us know what's going on.
billiev
Mar 13 2003, 12:31 AM
still waiting for my $6.80
Positive_thougths
Mar 13 2003, 06:25 AM
No still waiting for my 6 dollar something

Pos
Mango88
Mar 13 2003, 06:29 AM
I haven't been paid yet either..
womanfish
Mar 13 2003, 08:54 AM
I posted this question on the 7th to their message board:
QUOTE
Earlier in the week the old members received an email stating that we would all be paid within 2 days and we weren't. I know you say that over 50% have been paid, but I know of over 60 members who have not - I guess we're in the other 50%. Will we ever get paid?
And this is the answer I received:
QUOTE
Do you have a life beside PTR?
I suppose so, right?
Then you should accept the a webmaster has a life too!
She just got home, after a long absence which wasn't her fault.
Instead of reading your complaints here time after time, she is busy handling the payments.
You asked if you would get paid? Well, I suggest you take a look at the post above yours and READ IT.
YOU WILL GET PAID!!!
How can I be any more clearer?
Thinks that make you go hmmm
Johns_ssl
Mar 13 2003, 09:00 AM
The worst excuse I ever heard.
Really suck scam that is.
3 months past , and at the same time She is enjoying her life beside PTR........
kglaser
Mar 13 2003, 09:14 AM
QUOTE (womanfish @ Mar 13 2003, 09:54 AM)
QUOTE
Do you have a life beside PTR?
I suppose so, right?
Then you should accept the a webmaster has a life too!
She just got home, after a long absence which wasn't her fault.
Instead of reading your complaints here time after time, she is busy handling the payments.
You asked if you would get paid? Well, I suggest you take a look at the post above yours and READ IT.
YOU WILL GET PAID!!!
How can I be any more clearer?
Thinks that make you go hmmm

Nice.
womanfish
Mar 13 2003, 09:21 AM
Yup, I was pretty freaked out by the answer myself. My favorite part was this:
QUOTE
Instead of reading your complaints here time after time, she is busy handling the payments.
Especially since this was my first post on the subject. I dunno, I thought I posted a valid question, not a complaint.
All I can say is, if it makes her happy and will further her adventures in life, she may have my $6.23.
kglaser
Mar 13 2003, 09:24 AM
Heck, she could have my $3.69, but I don't think that will buy very much Valium.
edithje
Mar 13 2003, 09:26 AM
QUOTE (tianxiner @ Mar 13 2003, 11:00 PM)
The worst excuse I ever heard.
Really suck scam that is.
3 months past , and at the same time She is enjoying her life beside PTR........

SHE has got a job to attend too.
And about this message:
QUOTE
Do you have a life beside PTR?
I suppose so, right?
Then you should accept the a webmaster has a life too!
She just got home, after a long absence which wasn't her fault.
Instead of reading your complaints here time after time, she is busy handling the payments.
You asked if you would get paid? Well, I suggest you take a look at the post above yours and READ IT.
YOU WILL GET PAID!!!
How can I be any more clearer?
I WROTE THAT!!!!
Would you mind also posting the post above that, which already answered the question you asked.
All members received an email from the webmaster, saying what was going on. You really have no idea what's going on at their home. I asked for some sympathy, but obviously that's too much too ask.
There is nothing I can do. I'm sure everything will be alright, but it will take time. If you don't have that, nothing's keeping you from just unsubscribing, is it?
This webmaster really is a very nice girl, who is going through a really hard time now.
QUOTE
The worst excuse I ever heard.
Really suck scam that is.
3 months past , and at the same time She is enjoying her life beside PTR........
I'm sure she would trade with you any day
If you believe it's a scam, please do! I know better, and I will earn money from them....how about you?
womanfish
Mar 13 2003, 09:40 AM
OK, here's the post directly above mine
QUOTE
With the last update I got, 50% was already paid.
I rest assured, thinking you just don't know what you're talking about. If you did, you would never say such a horrible thing.
Promises were made, based on the time she thought she could spend on the site. Too bad you can't understand that people have a life too, besides their website, where things can go unexpectedly wrong some times.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I wish I could help you, but we all just have to wait until the webmaster gets back.
There's nothing more we can do.....
I want to thank all the non-complaining members for their understanding. My thoughts go out to the webmaster in this time of need. I hope yours will too.
As I said before, you will get paid! I know the funds are there, all she has to do is make the payments and I'm sure she will the moment she gets back. No use in complaining to me about it. There's nothing either of us can do about it.
Which was in answer to this:
QUOTE
While we all feel for someone having personal problems, this should never interfere with business. Provisions should have been made, or a date should have never been promised. Here it is March 1st and I don't know one person who has been paid yet, and I know a lot of the original members.
Which was a reply to this:
QUOTE
We are working on it. Some personal problems have occurred, which I won't mention here since I think they are too personal.
The webmaster had to leave town a few days ago. All I know is that she was up on schedule until then with payments.
Pleases bear with us. Don't worry, you will get paid!
Which was an answer to this:
QUOTE
It is now February 28th and payment was promised by the end of February. I cashed out on 1/20 for $4.88 and have not received anything yet. When will this payment be made?
The final post of the thread is this:
QUOTE
Haven't received word from the webmaster yet.
I'm so sorry I have to tell you this....
I too hope this will be solved soon. Many members are waiting for their payments. It takes time, but the longer it takes, the more bad words will go around about this site.
kglaser
Mar 13 2003, 09:43 AM
I was unaware that the webmistress was having personal problems.
edithje
Mar 13 2003, 09:46 AM
If you want to know what's up, feel free to pm me. But I don't want to post it here, since I think it's too personal to tell the world.
kglaser
Mar 13 2003, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (edithje @ Mar 13 2003, 10:46 AM)
If you want to know what's up, feel free to pm me. But I don't want to post it here, since I think it's too personal to tell the world.
No, edithje, that's ok

It is enough to know that there are personal problems.
I was only upset because we were told we would be paid by a certain date, and we were not informed in this thread of the reason for the delay. But now I feel bad because I realize I should have looked elsewhere for the answers.
I should have gone to the forum of which you speak to read the posts there (I didn't know there was one, though).
If there is a personal problem, I will wait as long as it takes. Of course I understand that.
I hope everything will turn out all right with this webmaster. Let me know if I can do any searches to help her or anything like that.
Susy
Mar 13 2003, 01:05 PM
I'm sorry, Edith, but as I seem to continually have trouble even getting onto the site, I came back here to ask my question...since this thread IS here, and you and the webmistress have posted here, also.
Maybe the tone of your answers to people above, while I realize you were helping, might have come across as somewhat flip the first time around. I'm sure a lot of people don't know that she's having troubles, and I bet a few have had the same trouble I've had from time to time getting onto the site.
I'm sure that you could understand a lot of folks being a mite "testy" about lack of communication from a webmaster "personally responding", considering a few that run off and let others do their talking for them lately. It happens, and is pure human nature anymore with this industry for folks to mistrust. Bear that in mind. As I'm sure the members will now bear in mind that folks have personal lives, also, and need time off, and sometimes circumstances prevent immediate information being given.
Please pass on our thoughts of comfort and support, and if at any time help is needed, let her know a lot of us out here DO have good hearts and will gladly throw in a hand or two and help in whatever way we can. We might be tough sometimes, but most of us do care sincerely.
~~Susy
edithje
Mar 13 2003, 02:49 PM
You're a sweetie

I am sorry if my words came across as being a bit harsh, but people kept asking and complaining, even after I posted about the personal problems she is having.
The webmaster is a girl, about my age and has a husband, a job and 4 kids to take care of. She managed all, until these problems occurred, and I'm sure she will again soon.
To give you all an update: the last thing I personally heard of them (on the day they sent the email to their members) is that her husband is busy going over the accounts that need to be paid. I understand they won't be making any single payments anymore, but will check all accounts first and then pay everyone in one time.
Thank you very much for your understanding. I was beginning to believe I was the only one supporting them. I will keep you informed on every update I get!
And of course: feel free to pm me anytime with any questions!
edithje
Mar 13 2003, 07:56 PM
Will someone just shoot me please?
I just read another thread on the CashRoad-forum. I don't think I can take much more.....
This is what it said:
QUOTE
yeah and February has come and gone and still no payment from the old site we also spent alot money OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET ADVERTISING AND GETTING REFERRALS WHICH WE LOST WHEN YOU CHANGED TO A NEW SITE.
The least you could do is pay up what you owe us, we are certainly not getting back enough to cover our losses.
You won't last long doing business like this
And here's my reply:
QUOTE
Not even the nerve to leave your name....
When YOUR father dies, give me a call and I will yell at you too, ok?
Thanks for being a member and not taking the the time to read what's going on. We can miss members who don't care anyday.
Want your money? pm me your paypal and I will pay you personally. The money is there, only the webmistress has got other things on her mind right now.
Guess that's too much for people to understand....
You are really upsetting me, you know.....why don't people care about what happens to someone else on the internet? I know I do! The internet is a real big, anonymous place, but I believe that we can make a difference online as well.
My motto is: what comes around, goes around. I try to always be nice to people, just like I did here, because that's what I am like, and how I would like others to treat me.
Don't get me wrong: I do respect you and your opinion, just as I respect everyone else who voices his/her opinion. It's just the way people put it that I don't understand. Is it so hard to be nice? Or even just a little bit polite? Are a few bucks worth all this?
As I said, just pm me and I will pay you myself.
And as for your lost referrals: sites disappear all the time online. This webmaster showed courage, by sticking around and paying everyone. If you can't deal with losing referrals, accounts and money, I don't think the internet is the place to be....do you?
Sorry if this post sounds harsh, or insulted you in any way. I am here to answer questions and help people, not to answer thesame question over and over and over and over again, nor to defend it. Your post won't change anything. I am proud to help a webmaster, who sticks around while people are talking about her like this.
Remember: what comes around, goes around.....
Does anyone have any suggestions for me what to do? How to solve this constant complaining and asking thesame questions? I really don't know anymore....
HELP ME!!!!

Please? Any ideas are more than welcome!
Positive_thougths
Mar 14 2003, 06:23 AM
Hi Edithje, in this thread you'll also see that I wrote that I did not get my money.
I didn't sign up for the new program and had no idea what was going on. (Since I am not getting any letters) so I didn't know.
Perhaps there are others too who didn't sign up. I myself had over 100 referrals and paid for them (i.e. sent out several paid ads).
Although I do not and never thought that program was spam I felt that it is unfair to me that I spent some 20 dollars promoting the site being as active as possible, to me it felt this program wasn't worth my time.
However once again I want to emphasize I did not and do not think they site is not ok or not reliable, it is just what I do whenever a site loses the entire database and starts again or something else that makes me lose all my referrals I am not going to sign up again. (at least didn't do so far).
Now an answer to your question, don't let it get to you what they say. You know she'll pay. I don't know whether you have to write back to those people. Just make a standard letter saying something like : "due to personal circumstances it will take a bit longer before you will get paid, but you will get paid, thank you have a great day"
Hope this helps
Have a great weekend,
Pos
edithje
Mar 14 2003, 06:33 AM
Thanks pos!
Guess your name suits you!
I thought the email they sent out went to the entire old database. The forum is with the new site, so all people complaining there could read what's going on and received the email from the webmaster explaining something's wrong.
I really hope to see (or speak actually) the webmaster again soon. She is the only one who can solve all this. I just hope it will be in time to have some dedicated members left
Thank you!
Positive_thougths
Mar 14 2003, 06:38 AM
I am glad it helped.
I can understand that you are worried, I do hope the good people stay as well! And if they keep being as good as they were when I was still a member ( the previous site) they should get lot's of new members. Their paid2click section was and probable is ( am not a member anymore so can't say :"> ) one of the best out there!
Great that it helped!
Pos

(putting on sunglasses sun is getting so bright here in the Netherlands.
The spring is coming oh Yeah !!!!)
edithje
Mar 14 2003, 07:10 AM
You are DUTCH
Helemaal vergeten!
De PTC valt een beetje tegen nu, met 8 tot 10 linkjes van 1/4 cent. Maarja, beter dan sommige andere sites....
Mango88
Mar 14 2003, 07:16 AM
QUOTE (edithje @ Mar 14 2003, 08:10 AM)
You are DUTCH
Helemaal vergeten!
De PTC valt een beetje tegen nu, met 8 tot 10 linkjes van 1/4 cent. Maarja, beter dan sommige andere sites....
This is an English Speaking forum
starwood
Mar 14 2003, 08:04 AM
Still no payment here - I'm owed $4.88. Can't even get into the forums to complain.
Susy
Mar 15 2003, 11:43 PM
Starwood, please do everyone a favor and go to the beginning of this thread and properly read. We've been informed of a personal family tragedy, if I'm understanding Edith correctly.
Please wait for a formal email from either the webmistress or someone she has asked to help and all should be cleared up. The people who run the site are now aware, I'm sure, that the site has been unstable and that payments have not been issued yet. But they will be. We have to wait until things are quietened down and our webmistress back on track.
We're all trying to support her by not overposting complaints, but will wait to hear from someone.
womanfish
Mar 16 2003, 08:23 AM
I think I can understand starwoods' concern. In the beginning of March the webmistress did send out an email explaining the reason for the Feb. delay was that her father-in-law died. I think if she had left it at that there wouldn't be a problem, but she continued to say that everyone from the old CashRoad would be paid by the following day and we weren't. This was two weeks ago. I believe this is what has many of us old members confused.
As far as people being cold and unfeeling, we all respond to grief in different ways. Some of us are able to move on rather quickly and some of us aren't. Some people see these programs as businesses and some regard them as social clubs. In most businesses, if they're generous, you get 3 bereavement days and then it's back to work as usual. Perhaps this is why some members are doubtful.
If you're friends with a particular person, of course your heart will go out to them moreso than if you were just an "employee", KWIM. In any event, I am truly sorry that she lost a loved one and hope she's on the road to healing.
Kristin
Mar 16 2003, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (edithje @ Mar 15 2003, 02:10 AM)
You are DUTCH
Helemaal vergeten!
De PTC valt een beetje tegen nu, met 8 tot 10 linkjes van 1/4 cent. Maarja, beter dan sommige andere sites....
hey! vergeten isn't in my dutch/english dictionary (stoppen)......does that mean it's a naughty word?
starwood
Mar 18 2003, 07:55 AM
I can understand a small delay due to personal problems but all I am reading is "I have not been paid" and have not read one response that anyone has been paid.
My father passes away a few years ago - I had a husband and 1 year old child. It was a sudden death and my mother was beyond consolation. I also had a job and was granted 3 days of bereavement at which time I was expected to return to work.
If she cannot handle the site then she should say so. I am not unfeeling but it would be nice to see someone who has been paid. I think we have all been more than patient. It is almost 2 months since we were promised our payment and we are expected to blindly continue without compensation.
Yes I do have a live beyond PTC and I do not want to waste my time (as I have before) with sites that will not pay (or are nasty when people request a little information on their payment).
womanfish
Mar 18 2003, 01:42 PM
Don't take her nasty comments to heart Starwood, they were directed at me and a post I made at both the cashroad forum and here.
Soozie, perhaps you should also do yourself a favor and go back and re-read the thread. We were sent a formal email at the beginning of March, over a week after her father-in-law passed; even edithje will admit to that. In it she explained what happened and that we would all be paid within two days. This was more than 2 weeks ago and we still haven't heard a thing. I would imagine even Bill Gates doesn't get more than 3 weeks bereavement leave... If there are other circumstances preventing the webmistress from paying, then the members should be informed-not left in the dark to surmise what we will.
And, of course, nobody can cash out at the new site until the debts from the old site are paid off, there's a post to that effect at the cashroad forum. So we're all kind of over a barrel here.
edithje
Mar 18 2003, 01:55 PM
I haven't heard from the webmistress ever since. However, thesame goes for WBW and CC.
I supported that webmaster (and still do) and will do thesame with the webmistress of Cashroad until (if ever) I am proven wrong.
And about being nasty: I was not! I posted here what I said and people understood all those posts about thesame thing were driving me nuts.
Maybe this will clear some things up: if there was news, I would post it. If not, I know just as little as you do. Posting there time after time with thesame question is of no use, since the webmistress doesn't read the forum! Only I do, and I contact her for all things that require her attention.
As I promised before (and before and before and before) I will keep you posted. And I will! I always keep my promises. Could you promise me to give it a rest, PLEASE?????
womanfish
Mar 18 2003, 02:11 PM
You know edithje, you were nasty to me, and quite a few other people thought so also. You reply to my 1 question went way overboard, especially since it was the first question I asked on the subject.
Maybe this will refresh your memory:
I posted this question on the 7th to their message board:
QUOTE
Earlier in the week the old members received an email stating that we would all be paid within 2 days and we weren't. I know you say that over 50% have been paid, but I know of over 60 members who have not - I guess we're in the other 50%. Will we ever get paid?
And this is the answer I received:
QUOTE
Do you have a life beside PTR?
I suppose so, right?
Then you should accept the a webmaster has a life too!
She just got home, after a long absence which wasn't her fault.
Instead of reading your complaints here time after time, she is busy handling the payments.
You asked if you would get paid? Well, I suggest you take a look at the post above yours and READ IT.
YOU WILL GET PAID!!!
How can I be any more clearer?
Your reply was totally uncalled for. My question was direct and polite. You, on the other hand, decided to hit below the belt and get personal.
And if the members here want to discuss their disgruntled feelings in the complaints folder, what is it to you? You have no definitive answers for us, so we will continue to discuss the subject amongst ourselves until this reaches its conclusion.
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