Please, I am a newbie and I know from the posts I have read so far that several people are involved with Studio traffic.

I want to know from you how to make money with my Studio Traffic account. What am I really supposed to do? And what is the best tactics to emply for me to make so much from the program.

Your input will be so much appreciated and everybody's opinion is welcome as long as you are involved with them.

Thanks

Open a second account. That way your first account will earn from your second account. I'm planning to do this, I'm just waiting for money to upgrade the second account, because you have to upgrade your second account.

To get the maximum the quickest, upgrade your account to $100 which is the level to be able to cash out. Then the next month you will have made $30 which you can ask for. After a little over 3 months you will have made back your $100 and the rest will be profit.

Advertise for a downline in other programs. You get 10% of what your downline upgrades are (only).

Remember though that your upgrades expire 1 year after you make them so it is also best to keep upgrading.

I have 2 accounts. 1 @ $70 and 1 @ $30

Check out their forum if you want to know more from the "horses mouth" It's a great place to get information also!

Upgrading your account early is a good idea - but it's doesn't have to be $100 right away. If you can afford it then great, it's well worth it.

If not, put $30 in, raising your overall level to $40 (StudioTraffic will give you $10 when you join). This means you'll earn $0.40 a day - which over the course of a month (30 days) = $12.

You'll then be able to upgrade your account using your earnings in the first month , which is very satisfying. Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask any other questions you may have.

Ain't it against ST rules to have two accounts? I thought you can start second account if you your first account is 10k already.

No you can have two accounts for yourself at any amount but they have to be upgraded. Any accounts after that have to be after bi\oth accounts are at 15k.

You can use your earnings to upgrade at ST (or you can compond your earnings).
I agree it's no easy to earn money at ST if you are a free member, You can also upgrade using your own money or refer members to earn more.

Hi guys.

If you haven't $100 to start ST isn't for you. ST is a great choice to make serious money. Slowly but risk is low. 4daily makes money for you significant quicker. You can start from zero investment without constrains. Of course, as a free member you will work for dimes. But it is better than to work for nothing in ST. 4daily has the best admin in auto-surfing business. I don't know what happend with ST last month. I can't withdraw my earnings till today. I understand it is a problem of super fast growth, but 4daily grows up faster and saves order and responsibility.
There are many new programs making money fast.
Put attention on 12daily. 12% a day. Cycle 12 days + 8 days for payment delay. 20 days $100->$144. Not bad.
PaidYou $100->$400 for 60 days + $160 for the next month.
Compare with
4daily $100->$260 for 60 days + $130 for the next month.
5daily (obvious scam) $100->$225 (5% a day)
Choose right for you program.

I took the risk in February and upgraded my member level using a credit card. I have since earned that money back and now earn a nice PROFIT every month!

Yeah it was risky but it was a risk worth taking as now I am getting $1000 in FREE MONEY!

I strongly suggest that you should join other programs similar to Studio Traffic... we can't put our trust in only one program, now can we?
4daily would make a good decission as well as estrix surf if you want to get maximized results

Cheers,
Ubikk

You are not right principally. If one of 2 monsters ST or 4daily falls all autosurf sector of internet business will be destroyed. You will lose your money in all other programs too. So use these 2 as base program and others as more risky but more profitable. From this point of view 4daily is better as more profitable than ST.

There are dozens of AutoSurfs to join. ST and 4Daily are strong ones but there are many others around to get into and ride out. Just because the 2 above fail doesn't mean that the whole industry is going to fail. Not all other programs are investing in ST and 4Daily for profits to give their own programs.

I am a paid member in Paid Response, Top Gun, Paid Surfing, Paid You, DadnDave's and AutoSurf Rescue; all of them paying too- about $1500/month net combined after investment ($2700) is deducted at end of term/reinput to start over. Most of these are totally unrelated to ST and 4Daily and each WM can think for themselves and follow their own business plans without anyone's input.

Use the forums to pick about 5-12 sites that are known payers and show strong membership and growth. If any fail you only have about 10-20% in any one program. It is a game> play the odds and upgrade quickly and push it and spread it around after getting your investment out first. If they fail move over to another program that is proven to be paying and well run. Repeat cycle over and over. DON'T stick to one forever and expect it to be around producing you income.

Regards,

Dean

Please be advised that ST is a scam. See posts in "General Discussion" for more details.. don't invest a penny or you're robbing others.

You're kiddin right...? A scam...? Scam's don't pay other people...and believe me, i'm getting paid...

Yes I am serious. That's the nature of ponzi schemes. Paying to lure people in.. then at the end, taking everyones money. Check the link in my sig and once again look around other sections of this forum like Complaints and General Discussion for more.

I think especially in this newbie section, something needs to be said about ST.

Lets not start the scam thread here. If anyone wants to read other's opinions on it they can go to other ST threads.

That said; If everyone understands the risks, knows going in that things may implode than that is their choice. I choose to play the odds with multiple sites and move things around to diminish the losses. This is better than PTR, PTC etc. More productive use of my time.

People have to be accontable for their own decisions> read and review thoroughly. If you accept the consequences than so be it. You can make money doing this just understand that it is not an investment> it is a game of numbers and calculated risks. Do so as you like but be informed.

Regards,

Dean

Welcome to the forum Lifeminer.

As I am aware, this is a public discussion forum and I don't feel like it's right to have everyone singing the praises of a fraudulent program without ALSO knowing the other side of the story, as is evident from the post before mine.

Think about the basics of ST. Do you really think any legit organization will pay you that much for autosurfing, not even paying ATTENTION to the ads? Okay, but where do they get the money from? From previous investors upgrade money. Knowing this, the only way they can survive is if everyone keeps investing higher and higher amounts and that the member base keeps growing at an incredible rate. However, like all ponzis, the membership base will stop growing, money will not come in as quickly, or (hopefully) the government will step in and shut them down. At the end, guess who runs off with YOUR money? The owners. Think of members as their tools.

And you can say that they have multiple sources of revenue, but they definetely don't bring in enough to keep compensating the members, and never will.

If you would like more information about this ponzi, just go to the other sections of this forum. Lifeminer is right, please be informed before joining/quitting this program.

Thanks for the welcome.

There are definite risks involved in autosurfing. One must do reasearch and review many forums to get a feel for what is comfortable for them or not.

I understand the risks of it all and have decided to play the game knowing full well that I can lose it all. Not likely all as I have many sources, sites, of income but I don't expect some to be around in the next year or 2. The higher % ones, 3+ are even more risky> limited shelf life there, unsustainable for even a year likely.

I have money to spend from my 2 jobs and am producing good money at it, but it is disposable cash. I make good money at work so losing 3K would be a pain but no major loss.

Be prepared to be disappointed on occasion, diversify and remember it is a game, play it that way.

Dean

Hi amoderntragedy.

Thank you for a link to great article about ponzi schemes. I put this link on my site.
We all out there know that any program has his certain lifetime. ST isn't exception fro this rule.
What is the real question when will be collaps of program? When run away from program? It is a technical question.
There is another question. Moral question. Can you participate in ponzi program? Every one have to resolve this problem yourselves before starting to play with auto-surf.
Collaps of ST destroys all ugly autosurf business as was heppend already with doublers. Todays auto-surf moves quickly to HYIPs direction where surfing itself is unpleasent duty only.
Read more about it on my site.

Good luck

Hi:

Interesting reply. You seem to have 2 general opinions. You talk on the forums about how much money you've made and others can make; you promote dozens of these things with your ref links attached on your site. Yet you are a doomsdayer when talking here. This is a huge business, questionable no doubt, but huge, with many many players.

This is a game as we have all mentioned. There are risks involved no doubt but just because ST or 4Daily go down is no indication that the industry is going to sink generally. There will always be a business plan similar to this around as each WM will pursue it with no regards to what happened to ST etc. If ST goes down there will always be someone there to start it over in one form or another.

Each person decides what to do for themselves. I cannot baby sit everyone and guide them thru life. If they choose to play and loose that is unfortunate but they were supposed to be informed on the way in. If they win/earn lots of money like you/I say we do then good for us.

Regards,

Dean

Ponzi scams are NOT games. They're a con.

How do you maximize your earnings in a Ponzi scheme? You put in as much money as you can get your hands on (preferably somebody elses money), then con as many people as you can into doing the same. Then get as much money as you can before the whole thing falls apart.

You can see some fine examples of that going on in this and many other threads.



Cheers,

Wil

I mean Game as in not a real business like entity. I never promote or have referrals or downlines, never promote anyone to the autosurf industry, always tell people of the dangers of implosion when asked and only put disposable money into the various schemes.

I work full time and also do eCurrency trading as my real biz side pursuit. I am paid in eGold/IntGold/PayPay or StormPay from surfing, all of which I use for accounts/transactions in the internet market place.

I agree it is very unpredictable and is unsavoury but many people do make some money. Only those that know the risks and are ready to accept them should enter. People must choose wisely on whether it is a good time to enter into this or at all. I would say find something better to do with your coin; but I don't know if many are willing to give up on what seems to be an easy way to make money or easy way out of thinking for their profits/earnings.

Regards,

Dean

If you never promote or have referrals, how can you go big in the get paid industry. The absolute KEY to almost any program is referrals.

I agree you should warn people of the dangers, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't promote your programs. If you tell them the dangers, then they would know if they want to join or not

I simply use income from about 3 other sources that I have deemed to be risk money. I have about 2.5 thousand in 6 autosurfs that pay: 3 @ 1%, 2 @ 2% and 1 @ 4%. The combined total produces about $1500+/ month presently with another 11 months duration, with more coming after 2 of the 6 are compounding untouched, the others I take payouts in eCurrency that I use in my other business and I take some out for bills.

I use or need no referrals and am independent as far as that goes. The whole thing depends on all players but it can be done without others involvement.

That said you are correct in that the addition of referrals would greatly increase the income and reach of the schemes involved in, but I choose not to go that route.

I work 48-60 hrs a week full time with surf and eCurrency the rest of the days time, with some play time; banking on more success for more future play time with more funds andless employment.

Regards,

Dean

True, you can make money without recruiting new members yourself, but that's not the same as saying others aren't involved. The income you get still has to come from somewhere, and since ST and the other autosurfs are Ponzis, that means it has to come from other members' 'investments.' In a Ponzi, the only way one person makes money is if another loses it.

Cheers,

Wil

I should have probably said that without others immediate involvement in downlines or referrals. Bu that was the onus there but you missed it.

You speak as if you are the only authority on all things here and all others are wrong and only you are correct. You and others have made your points well and I agree with most of them but we all are accountable for our actions. Not my job to stop the guy from blowing $100/month on lottery tickets that won't pay either.

What do you do for income in this "industry"? Do you muddle around making $1-3 a day doing PTR or PTC. They are all borderline scams by people who often don't pay and rip hundreds of people off who have put in many, many hours.

I am not the world's baby sitter. I can not make anyone smarter or more aware. There is lots to be informed about and much info to make decisions with.

Your casino comparison is not really good. I work surveillance in a major casino chain and I watch thru 200+ cameras people who throw their money away everyday. The odds are always against you; the house will always win. We have files on every winner over 10K and their buy ins etc. Most are all losers even if they win 20K at the tables or slots. They are destined to lose if they keep playing that is the reality of the business. Not much different here but likely hood is better to make money here than not. It is not near 50% like in Mini Bacc or a 6 out of 11 chance in 21. By the way where do you think the winners money in a casino comes from> the players losses that are bank rolled into the next days payouts, from profits of about 25 to 85K per day at even a small casino. Most take in 30+% profits of gross take, that is huge!

I will continue to make some money in this for awhile and then stay in eCurrency trading where there is more money and is more legit as you may say compared to surfing.

I am done with this topic. It is once again going around and around.

I am not in ST by the way:) something seems strange or wrong there. Maybe on the ultimate slow decline side of the slope now?

Dean

There is one thing you forget.
ST was not the first. Before ST we had cashits and before cashits we had novalights.
When novalights died most autosurfs died but cashits popped up and took over.
When cashits died most autosurfs collapsed once again but ST didnt. They survived.
When ST dies most autosurfs will again collapse but some will survive..
You can also not compared doublers with autosurfs.
With doublers you can get a couple hundred bucks.
With autosurfs some people are getting paid thousands and thousands.
Those that keep winning and joining early will keep investing and investing.
I dont see it ending that quickly.

No, you're not the world's babysitter. Neither am I. We can't help it if people choose to invest in Ponzi scams, can we? And if we happen to make a nice little profit from the scam, then it's all OK, right?

Actually, I didn't compare Ponzi autosurfs to casinos. You were the one that mentioned gambling. I don't think Ponzi autosurfs are anything like casinos. Casinos are regulated. And the odds may be in the house's favor, but they're the same for everybody. If I win big at a casino, they don't just grab the next 10 people that walk in the door and shake them down to get the money to pay me my winnings.

Cheers,

Wil

Depends Wil.
Slot machines are programmed in such a way that they will always make a profit for the casino. Those machines are manipulated.

Casino --> People loose and give money to casino.
You win some, casino gives you money of other people that lost.
surf for cash/autosurf --> You gamble with your own + some other peoples money.
Now what's the difference? At a casino you know instantly : you won or you loose/
At autosurfs --> You invest and some days or a month later you know if you won or lost. and even if you won you can still loose(collapse of program)

Slot machines are regulated and tested. Yes, they're set up to make a profit, but they're also required to return a certain percentage of the money going in -- in Nevada it's 75%, in Atlantic City it's 83%. Most machines are set to return over 90% of all the money going in. The casinos still make an enviable profit. But those percentages don't affect the random nature of each individual game.

Cheers,

Wil

Hey guys
I seem to enjoy the way things are going with this post. I have gained a lot of insights from you all. I want to show my appreciation to ya all.

Love You.

I and almost every other American are forced every paycheck to pay into a Ponzi scheme from which most will never see payout from.

If you don't think so, then look at your paystub under the Social Security block.

Also, I took this from the link so thankfully provided another:

2. Payment of ?Profits?. In many Ponzi Schemes the investors are paid ?profits?, which usually is the investment money from other investors.

3. Excuses for Non-Performance. After sometime in the investment has passed, the promoter makes excuses for the non-payment of profits. He will often blame it on third parties not performing or on the actions of a government.

5. Term of Ponzi Schemes. Most Ponzi Scheme will last for at least 18 months before the excuses begin to run ?thin? with the investors leading to the eventual acceptance of the reality that there are no funds to pay investors. However, some Ponzi Schemes have been kept afloat for many years before their collapse.

Personally, our govts wonderful program fits all of these...

I for one am not worried about it failing because:

1. Most business' fail. However, with the business plan any business can succeed.
2. I have recouped all I have put into the program....everything from here on out is gravy.

Try traffic-riot.com. I find this site very good and probably gonna be another ST, Just that u will be in at the starting.

Sid