Full Version: PTC/PTR rates
Lately i've noticed that a lot of sites have been sending out mail and listing sites at ridiculous rates. Some are even as low as 0.01 cents ($0.0001).
Decide what's a fair rate for you, and stick with that. Don't click or support anything below that rate.
QUOTE (bL0 @ Feb 24 2003, 03:32 PM)
Lately i've noticed that a lot of sites have been sending out mail and listing sites at ridiculous rates. Some are even as low as 0.01 cents ($0.0001).
If they send one or two links like that a week I wouldnt be bothering much with the site. But when they send them enmass they tend to be worth clicking... But if the site had a high rate to payout I wouldnt bother either...
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Feb 24 2003, 01:50 PM)
QUOTE (bL0 @ Feb 24 2003, 03:32 PM)
Lately i've noticed that a lot of sites have been sending out mail and listing sites at ridiculous rates. Some are even as low as 0.01 cents ($0.0001). ;)
If they send one or two links like that a week I wouldnt be bothering much with the site. But when they send them enmass they tend to be worth clicking... But if the site had a high rate to payout I wouldnt bother either...
HI,
yes very low earnings, its better join no minimum payment sites.
egold1
I?m running a $1 minimum payout program
Most of those low paying links come's out the pocket of the webmaster him selfs.
If there are no advertisers links to send out.
I depends also how much the minimum payout is.
When I put banners or send ads out of my own pocket it will be 1/10 cent clicks.
That is fair enough for a $1 program I think.
Most of the people don't understand why I send out those low rates sometimes.
But I'll do that only to have my members someting to click on.
I would love to send out 1 cent links but there must be advertisers to purchase them.
I can't pay that out of my own pocket.
Most of those low paying links come's out the pocket of the webmaster him selfs.
If there are no advertisers links to send out.
I depends also how much the minimum payout is.
When I put banners or send ads out of my own pocket it will be 1/10 cent clicks.
That is fair enough for a $1 program I think.
Most of the people don't understand why I send out those low rates sometimes.
But I'll do that only to have my members someting to click on.
I would love to send out 1 cent links but there must be advertisers to purchase them.
I can't pay that out of my own pocket.
QUOTE (dutchmails @ Mar 6 2003, 05:57 PM)
I?m running a $1 minimum payout program
Most of those low paying links come's out the pocket of the webmaster him selfs.
If there are no advertisers links to send out.
I depends also how much the minimum payout is.
When I put banners or send ads out of my own pocket it will be 1/10 cent clicks.
That is fair enough for a $1 program I think.
Most of the people don't understand why I send out those low rates sometimes.
But I'll do that only to have my members someting to click on.
I would love to send out 1 cent links but there must be advertisers to purchase them.
I can't pay that out of my own pocket.
Most of those low paying links come's out the pocket of the webmaster him selfs.
If there are no advertisers links to send out.
I depends also how much the minimum payout is.
When I put banners or send ads out of my own pocket it will be 1/10 cent clicks.
That is fair enough for a $1 program I think.
Most of the people don't understand why I send out those low rates sometimes.
But I'll do that only to have my members someting to click on.
I would love to send out 1 cent links but there must be advertisers to purchase them.
I can't pay that out of my own pocket.
wow that is really low... do you require people to be your slaves i mean honestly. That would mean they would have to click 1000 links to cash out holy cow 1000 links just for a dollar now thats pathetic if you ask me... lol i would pay someone a dollar to not click 1000 links for that measly payout
That's NOT true!
He sends out 1/10 cent links, but only accompanied by higher paying links.
Most members reach payout in 1 month without referrals!!!
Beat that!
He sends out 1/10 cent links, but only accompanied by higher paying links.
Most members reach payout in 1 month without referrals!!!
Beat that!
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 11:26 AM)
QUOTE (dutchmails @ Mar 6 2003, 05:57 PM)
I?m running a $1 minimum payout program
Most of those low paying links come's out the pocket of the webmaster him selfs.
If there are no advertisers links to send out.
I depends also how much the minimum payout is.
When I put banners or send ads out of my own pocket it will be 1/10 cent clicks.
That is fair enough for a $1 program I think.
Most of the people don't understand why I send out those low rates sometimes.
But I'll do that only to have my members someting to click on.
I would love to send out 1 cent links but there must be advertisers to purchase them.
I can't pay that out of my own pocket.
Most of those low paying links come's out the pocket of the webmaster him selfs.
If there are no advertisers links to send out.
I depends also how much the minimum payout is.
When I put banners or send ads out of my own pocket it will be 1/10 cent clicks.
That is fair enough for a $1 program I think.
Most of the people don't understand why I send out those low rates sometimes.
But I'll do that only to have my members someting to click on.
I would love to send out 1 cent links but there must be advertisers to purchase them.
I can't pay that out of my own pocket.
wow that is really low... do you require people to be your slaves i mean honestly. That would mean they would have to click 1000 links to cash out holy cow 1000 links just for a dollar now thats pathetic if you ask me... lol i would pay someone a dollar to not click 1000 links for that measly payout
bjrosen2 I think you are missing one point here. The number of members within the site. 1/10 cent link to well over 2000 people can be a lot of money out of the WM's pocket. Take Paidmailinc.com payouts been risen from $1 recently, but you could also but at that time a cheap link (1/10 cent) for $1, that's been put to $1.50. These links are being paid for by people, not the WM, you going to say everyone that clicked my search link is my slave with me paying that to sent out that link, which got over 1500 clicks on it.
Of course, they could be my slaves, they earnt me over $2
dutchmails is good
It sends a wide value range of links
It's funny and costs to me the same work to click
on all than select wich ones to click.
Of course the advertisement is consistent with
the value of the links and you also have a full
value range to use.
It sends a wide value range of links
It's funny and costs to me the same work to click
on all than select wich ones to click.
Of course the advertisement is consistent with
the value of the links and you also have a full
value range to use.
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
it does itit sends 1/10, 1/5, 1/4, 1/2 and 1/1
at least 2 emails daily
plus ptclick section
It's a nice program
I hope they'll going
getting more advertisers day to day to
pull up the links they send.
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 10:03 AM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
There is not such a big difference between .01cent links and .02 cent clicks. Is there Aron. I firmly belive that if you dont have any advertisers then dont send out any links, send quality links like .4 or .5 cents when you have them. By sending out cheep links you are degrading your program from the members point of veiw. Any way this is my opinion.
Good luck to you Aron
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
1/10 of a cent is uncalled for... you guys can click it if you want but wow if i see a penny on the ground i usually don't pick it up*** PTR's really have misconstrued the value of money. one dollar i mean honestly you'd click 1000 links for a dollar?
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
Aaron isn't enforcing anything... 1/10 cent links is what is going to make this so called business die... Why hate on aaron when he's only trying to make this last and make it better? And by the way, even if you sell a "cheap link" worth 1/10 cent to 4000 members for $1.50 you wouldn't be losing money figuring that you'd have to figure in click thru rate which is probably under 40 percent probably even less for a 1/10 cent link... And then you figure in how many people will actually get paid from that link. Lets remember the WM is not giving $4.00 away but rather 1/10 of a cent to each member... Will every member who receives that link cash out? I think not. Theoretically, the WM will be making a good $1.40.
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
Aaron isn't enforcing anything... 1/10 cent links is what is going to make this so called business die... Why hate on aaron when he's only trying to make this last and make it better? And by the way, even if you sell a "cheap link" worth 1/10 cent to 4000 members for $1.50 you wouldn't be losing money figuring that you'd have to figure in click thru rate which is probably under 40 percent probably even less for a 1/10 cent link... And then you figure in how many people will actually get paid from that link. Lets remember the WM is not giving $4.00 away but rather 1/10 of a cent to each member... Will every member who receives that link cash out? I think not. Theoretically, the WM will be making a good $1.40.
Theoretically, yes. Reality NO!
BTW, what program do you run for someone that is so young to this forum to be judging 1/10 cent links?
And if you read my post you will see that the links are BOUGHT by MEMBERS, NOT WM's.
If a WM's constantly sending out their OWN links, that sort of site I wouldnt stay long with, why, because it shows that the members of that program dont use it for advertising...
1/10 cent links arent uncalled for either, they keep the sites alive, and they do, sites dont have over 4000 members if people didnt think the program was good. NOW, if you get a site that sends one out now and then and nothing else but point mails, you wouldnt really see it worth it. But when you have sites that send them out enmass like PMI, it's worth it.
Besides, that's what a downline is for, so you can make money of them
high paid links makes advertisement unreachable formost of the people's pocket interested in (average member).
That could kill a new program
Or sending one email each two months
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
Aaron isn't enforcing anything... 1/10 cent links is what is going to make this so called business die... Why hate on aaron when he's only trying to make this last and make it better? And by the way, even if you sell a "cheap link" worth 1/10 cent to 4000 members for $1.50 you wouldn't be losing money figuring that you'd have to figure in click thru rate which is probably under 40 percent probably even less for a 1/10 cent link... And then you figure in how many people will actually get paid from that link. Lets remember the WM is not giving $4.00 away but rather 1/10 of a cent to each member... Will every member who receives that link cash out? I think not. Theoretically, the WM will be making a good $1.40.
Theoretically, yes. Reality NO!
BTW, what program do you run for someone that is so young to this forum to be judging 1/10 cent links?
And if you read my post you will see that the links are BOUGHT by MEMBERS, NOT WM's.
If a WM's constantly sending out their OWN links, that sort of site I wouldnt stay long with, why, because it shows that the members of that program dont use it for advertising...
1/10 cent links arent uncalled for either, they keep the sites alive, and they do, sites dont have over 4000 members if people didnt think the program was good. NOW, if you get a site that sends one out now and then and nothing else but point mails, you wouldnt really see it worth it. But when you have sites that send them out enmass like PMI, it's worth it.
Besides, that's what a downline is for, so you can make money of them
OK well you obviously don't get what i'm saying... How much is $1 worth to you? How long will it take you to click 1,000 links? please let's keep the debating to the subject at hand not attacking other members for their opinion other thann clicking for months to get $1 out of it? You can go ahead... but its pretty pathetic if you ask me... THe webmaster is obviously making a killing off of these cheap links (1/10 cent)... obviously you don't know how much WM will have to pay out compared to how much their links are worth - especially on something like a 1/10 cent link. Its sites like these that make advertising from a 1 cent link no different than advertising from a 1/10 cent link, and that is worthless. I say any site like that you should avoid, but if you are going to be ignorant and defend it for your measly buck then go right ahead... I'm sorry but i have better things to do than click a bunch of 1/10 cent links... what next... 1/100 cent links??? and BTW, thats what you are making when your referral clicks on one of these links if the ref % is 10%. IMPRESSIVE.
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
Aaron isn't enforcing anything... 1/10 cent links is what is going to make this so called business die... Why hate on aaron when he's only trying to make this last and make it better? And by the way, even if you sell a "cheap link" worth 1/10 cent to 4000 members for $1.50 you wouldn't be losing money figuring that you'd have to figure in click thru rate which is probably under 40 percent probably even less for a 1/10 cent link... And then you figure in how many people will actually get paid from that link. Lets remember the WM is not giving $4.00 away but rather 1/10 of a cent to each member... Will every member who receives that link cash out? I think not. Theoretically, the WM will be making a good $1.40.
Theoretically, yes. Reality NO!
BTW, what program do you run for someone that is so young to this forum to be judging 1/10 cent links?
And if you read my post you will see that the links are BOUGHT by MEMBERS, NOT WM's.
If a WM's constantly sending out their OWN links, that sort of site I wouldnt stay long with, why, because it shows that the members of that program dont use it for advertising...
1/10 cent links arent uncalled for either, they keep the sites alive, and they do, sites dont have over 4000 members if people didnt think the program was good. NOW, if you get a site that sends one out now and then and nothing else but point mails, you wouldnt really see it worth it. But when you have sites that send them out enmass like PMI, it's worth it.
Besides, that's what a downline is for, so you can make money of them
thats interesting, and i joined this forum a day after you...
btw i have been in ptrs hyips etc etc etc for over 3 years
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:47 PM)
OK well you obviously don't get what i'm saying... How much is $1 worth to you? How long will it take you to click 1,000 links? please let's keep the debating to the subject at hand not attacking other members for their opinion other than clicking for months to get $1 out of it? You can go ahead... but its pretty pathetic if you ask me... THe webmaster is obviously making a killing off of these cheap links (1/10 cent)... obviously you don't know how much WM will have to pay out compared to how much their links are worth - especially on something like a 1/10 cent link. Its sites like these that make advertising from a 1 cent link no different than advertising from a 1/10 cent link, and that is worthless. I say any site like that you should avoid, but if you are going to be ignorant and defend it for your measly buck then go right ahead... I'm sorry but i have better things to do than click a bunch of 1/10 cent links... what next... 1/100 cent links??? and BTW, thats what you are making when your referral clicks on one of these links if the ref % is 10%. IMPRESSIVE.
It's obviously that money is all you are looking at...
As to WM's making money, that is where you are a bit out of the loop. I pay $1.50 for quick links with PMI, I know how many people click on that link.
As to 1/100th links, I have seen a few out there, there was the previous owner of PMI doing that, I am sure there are a few old members of Paid Mail Inc that were with the site before Colleen took it over.
They all add up when you have referrals, and many of them.
As to that get a job comment, I find that rather offensive. NOT everyone can work. I infact look after an 83 year old woman, infact she is MY grandmother. So before you tell people to get a job, I advise you to watch your words.
As to 1000 links, I believe in the past month to two months I have earned more with PMI than ANY other site.
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:48 PM)
thats interesting, and i joined this forum a day after you...
btw i have been in ptrs hyips etc etc etc for over 3 years
btw i have been in ptrs hyips etc etc etc for over 3 years
You still didnt answer me. What program do you run, what GPTR site.
And so what if you joined after me, did you get pointed in the direction of this forum, most probably. I stumbled onto this forum...
And BTW, I have been in GPTRs for well over 5 years, I know the tricks of the trade. HYIP's are 99% of the time run by scammers since HYIPs only work if you have a lot of money backing you to make the payouts.
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:47 PM)
OK well you obviously don't get what i'm saying... How much is $1 worth to you? ?How long will it take you to click 1,000 links? ? please let's keep the debating to the subject at hand not attacking other members for their opinion other than clicking for months to get $1 out of it? ?You can go ahead... but its pretty pathetic if you ask me... ?THe webmaster is obviously making a killing off of these cheap links (1/10 cent)... obviously you don't know how much WM will have to pay out compared to how much their links are worth - especially on something like a 1/10 cent link. ?Its sites like these that make advertising from a 1 cent link no different than advertising from a 1/10 cent link, and that is worthless. ?I say any site like that you should avoid, but if you are going to be ignorant and defend it for your measly buck then go right ahead... I'm sorry but i have better things to do than click a bunch of 1/10 cent links... what next... 1/100 cent links??? and BTW, thats what you are making when your referral clicks on one of these links if the ref % is 10%. ?IMPRESSIVE.
It's obviously that money is all you are looking at...
As to WM's making money, that is where you are a bit out of the loop. I pay $1.50 for quick links with PMI, I know how many people click on that link.
As to 1/100th links, I have seen a few out there, there was the previous owner of PMI doing that, I am sure there are a few old members of Paid Mail Inc that were with the site before Colleen took it over.
They all add up when you have referrals, and many of them.
As to that get a job comment, I find that rather offensive. NOT everyone can work. I infact look after an 83 year old woman, infact she is MY grandmother. So before you tell people to get a job, I advise you to watch your words.
As to 1000 links, I believe in the past month to two months I have earned more with PMI than ANY other site.
How much have you earned?
please let's keep the debating to the subject at hand not attacking other members for their opinion
So you're telling me after a little under 1500 posts and acting like a big shot saying you've been in this for 5 years that your biggest money maker is a $1 minimum payout program? OKAY...
Well I read this post....and well.....now I will yap
When you start a program...the first few weeks sets your impression whether you like it or not....once you start something its almost impossible to change it.....without a lot of fuss.
I have 4 Get Paid Sites
The one with the lowest Payout is quite new
It has only a $3.00 Payout
I have paid out over $350 since it opened
No link is below 1/4 cent
Let me tell you something...
You can not just open a site and expect all the members to do all the work.
Pay them nothing at all IF you are making a huge profit.
I have seen quite a few webmasters lately sending out even search links for .15 knowing fair well they are making 4-5 Cents....Is that right ..NO
You need to spend money to make money
As a webmaster you need to go look for advertisers and other ways to make money.
I have sold TONS of Ads on auctions to people who are not members of this get paid world.....there is a whole world out there that has no idea about us.
A whole market of products. websites. services and more that needs advertising.
Sit and think for One second on where you live.....how many places have services or business that they service world wide?????
How many affiliate programs are out there????
Searches......Let me tell you.....Most Members will do Valid Searches for anyone to make money...If you treat them fair....
.10 and .15 is NOT acceptable when some are pocketing 1 Cent or more
If you know you only get 1 cent per search.....tell your members that and offer them 1/4 Cent......then a portion goes to their downline..so covers the non valid clickers..some to the program ......Thats fair
However If you know you are getting ....say 9 cents a click...Be Honest.....If you pay your members say even 2 Cents......I bet you would find your click rate would go up....your members would be more active....and happy....
How about instead of sending your own links....for 1/10 of a cent.......give some free advertising to a member....say even a paid ad to 100
Let me tell you......If that member got even 1 referral....not even that......just for you doing it so they could try your service.....I bet atleast 50% of them would BUY adveritsing.
If you are only willing to give you members 1/10 of a cent......to check out your ad.....at COST to you........and you your self are unwiling to INVEST 1/4 Cent or more per...member....what kind of message does that send your member.....If you advertisered else where......you wouldnt get it at cost......So why should your members be willing to do something your are not.
When you start a program...the first few weeks sets your impression whether you like it or not....once you start something its almost impossible to change it.....without a lot of fuss.
I have 4 Get Paid Sites
The one with the lowest Payout is quite new
It has only a $3.00 Payout
I have paid out over $350 since it opened
No link is below 1/4 cent
Let me tell you something...
You can not just open a site and expect all the members to do all the work.
Pay them nothing at all IF you are making a huge profit.
I have seen quite a few webmasters lately sending out even search links for .15 knowing fair well they are making 4-5 Cents....Is that right ..NO
You need to spend money to make money
As a webmaster you need to go look for advertisers and other ways to make money.
I have sold TONS of Ads on auctions to people who are not members of this get paid world.....there is a whole world out there that has no idea about us.
A whole market of products. websites. services and more that needs advertising.
Sit and think for One second on where you live.....how many places have services or business that they service world wide?????
How many affiliate programs are out there????
Searches......Let me tell you.....Most Members will do Valid Searches for anyone to make money...If you treat them fair....
.10 and .15 is NOT acceptable when some are pocketing 1 Cent or more
If you know you only get 1 cent per search.....tell your members that and offer them 1/4 Cent......then a portion goes to their downline..so covers the non valid clickers..some to the program ......Thats fair
However If you know you are getting ....say 9 cents a click...Be Honest.....If you pay your members say even 2 Cents......I bet you would find your click rate would go up....your members would be more active....and happy....
How about instead of sending your own links....for 1/10 of a cent.......give some free advertising to a member....say even a paid ad to 100
Let me tell you......If that member got even 1 referral....not even that......just for you doing it so they could try your service.....I bet atleast 50% of them would BUY adveritsing.
If you are only willing to give you members 1/10 of a cent......to check out your ad.....at COST to you........and you your self are unwiling to INVEST 1/4 Cent or more per...member....what kind of message does that send your member.....If you advertisered else where......you wouldnt get it at cost......So why should your members be willing to do something your are not.
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:47 PM)
OK well you obviously don't get what i'm saying... How much is $1 worth to you? ?How long will it take you to click 1,000 links? ? please let's keep the debating to the subject at hand not attacking other members for their opinion other than clicking for months to get $1 out of it? ?You can go ahead... but its pretty pathetic if you ask me... ?THe webmaster is obviously making a killing off of these cheap links (1/10 cent)... obviously you don't know how much WM will have to pay out compared to how much their links are worth - especially on something like a 1/10 cent link. ?Its sites like these that make advertising from a 1 cent link no different than advertising from a 1/10 cent link, and that is worthless. ?I say any site like that you should avoid, but if you are going to be ignorant and defend it for your measly buck then go right ahead... I'm sorry but i have better things to do than click a bunch of 1/10 cent links... what next... 1/100 cent links??? and BTW, thats what you are making when your referral clicks on one of these links if the ref % is 10%. ?IMPRESSIVE.
It's obviously that money is all you are looking at...
As to WM's making money, that is where you are a bit out of the loop. I pay $1.50 for quick links with PMI, I know how many people click on that link.
As to 1/100th links, I have seen a few out there, there was the previous owner of PMI doing that, I am sure there are a few old members of Paid Mail Inc that were with the site before Colleen took it over.
They all add up when you have referrals, and many of them.
As to that get a job comment, I find that rather offensive. NOT everyone can work. I infact look after an 83 year old woman, infact she is MY grandmother. So before you tell people to get a job, I advise you to watch your words.
As to 1000 links, I believe in the past month to two months I have earned more with PMI than ANY other site.
I'm talking about the webmaster's Return on the ad. Not what the members paying for the ad are getting
QUOTE (jazmyni @ Mar 6 2003, 09:36 PM)
Well I read this post....and well.....now I will yap
When you start a program...the first few weeks sets your impression whether you like it or not....once you start something its almost impossible to change it.....without a lot of fuss.
I have 4 Get Paid Sites
The one with the lowest Payout is quite new
It has only a $3.00 Payout
I have paid out over $350 since it opened
No link is below 1/4 cent
Let me tell you something...
You can not just open a site and expect all the members to do all the work.
Pay them nothing at all IF you are making a huge profit.
I have seen quite a few webmasters lately sending out even search links for .15 knowing fair well they are making 4-5 Cents....Is that right ..NO
You need to spend money to make money
As a webmaster you need to go look for advertisers and other ways to make money.
I have sold TONS of Ads on auctions to people who are not members of this get paid world.....there is a whole world out there that has no idea about us.
A whole market of products. websites. services and more that needs advertising.
Sit and think for One second on where you live.....how many places have services or business that they service world wide?????
How many affiliate programs are out there????
Searches......Let me tell you.....Most Members will do Valid Searches for anyone to make money...If you treat them fair....
.10 and .15 is NOT acceptable when some are pocketing 1 Cent or more
If you know you only get 1 cent per search.....tell your members that and offer them 1/4 Cent......then a portion goes to their downline..so covers the non valid clickers..some to the program ......Thats fair
However If you know you are getting ....say 9 cents a click...Be Honest.....If you pay your members say even 2 Cents......I bet you would find your click rate would go up....your members would be more active....and happy....
How about instead of sending your own links....for 1/10 of a cent.......give some free advertising to a member....say even a paid ad to 100
Let me tell you......If that member got even 1 referral....not even that......just for you doing it so they could try your service.....I bet atleast 50% of them would BUY adveritsing.
If you are only willing to give you members 1/10 of a cent......to check out your ad.....at COST to you........and you your self are unwiling to INVEST 1/4 Cent or more per...member....what kind of message does that send your member.....If you advertisered else where......you wouldnt get it at cost......So why should your members be willing to do something your are not.
When you start a program...the first few weeks sets your impression whether you like it or not....once you start something its almost impossible to change it.....without a lot of fuss.
I have 4 Get Paid Sites
The one with the lowest Payout is quite new
It has only a $3.00 Payout
I have paid out over $350 since it opened
No link is below 1/4 cent
Let me tell you something...
You can not just open a site and expect all the members to do all the work.
Pay them nothing at all IF you are making a huge profit.
I have seen quite a few webmasters lately sending out even search links for .15 knowing fair well they are making 4-5 Cents....Is that right ..NO
You need to spend money to make money
As a webmaster you need to go look for advertisers and other ways to make money.
I have sold TONS of Ads on auctions to people who are not members of this get paid world.....there is a whole world out there that has no idea about us.
A whole market of products. websites. services and more that needs advertising.
Sit and think for One second on where you live.....how many places have services or business that they service world wide?????
How many affiliate programs are out there????
Searches......Let me tell you.....Most Members will do Valid Searches for anyone to make money...If you treat them fair....
.10 and .15 is NOT acceptable when some are pocketing 1 Cent or more
If you know you only get 1 cent per search.....tell your members that and offer them 1/4 Cent......then a portion goes to their downline..so covers the non valid clickers..some to the program ......Thats fair
However If you know you are getting ....say 9 cents a click...Be Honest.....If you pay your members say even 2 Cents......I bet you would find your click rate would go up....your members would be more active....and happy....
How about instead of sending your own links....for 1/10 of a cent.......give some free advertising to a member....say even a paid ad to 100
Let me tell you......If that member got even 1 referral....not even that......just for you doing it so they could try your service.....I bet atleast 50% of them would BUY adveritsing.
If you are only willing to give you members 1/10 of a cent......to check out your ad.....at COST to you........and you your self are unwiling to INVEST 1/4 Cent or more per...member....what kind of message does that send your member.....If you advertisered else where......you wouldnt get it at cost......So why should your members be willing to do something your are not.
well said
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 02:05 PM)
How much have you earned?
please let's keep the debating to the subject at hand not attacking other members for their opinion
So you're telling me after a little under 1500 posts and acting like a big shot saying you've been in this for 5 years that your biggest money maker is a $1 minimum payout program? OKAY...
please let's keep the debating to the subject at hand not attacking other members for their opinion
So you're telling me after a little under 1500 posts and acting like a big shot saying you've been in this for 5 years that your biggest money maker is a $1 minimum payout program? OKAY...
How much I earn is NONE of your business..
As to getting a getting a job you obviously didnt read about the fact that I look after an elderly person. THAT IS MY JOB.
I do infact find it offensive being told to find a job.
I am infact making a formal complaint on your attitude towards the fact that I am looking AFTER someone who is OBVIOUSLY not able to look after herself.
ALSO if you look I do NOT live in the US, I live IN AUSTRALIA.
As to your site, you sell a 1/4 cent link for $1.50. BIG loss to you when you have 600+ members.
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 7 2003, 02:31 AM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
AGAIN, I am saying that the "Paid Site Standards Association" is NOT something that is meant to enforce any types of rules.
It is something that will guide members to sites that meet their expectations.
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 7 2003, 02:55 AM)
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
Aaron isn't enforcing anything... 1/10 cent links is what is going to make this so called business die... Why hate on aaron when he's only trying to make this last and make it better? And by the way, even if you sell a "cheap link" worth 1/10 cent to 4000 members for $1.50 you wouldn't be losing money figuring that you'd have to figure in click thru rate which is probably under 40 percent probably even less for a 1/10 cent link... And then you figure in how many people will actually get paid from that link. Lets remember the WM is not giving $4.00 away but rather 1/10 of a cent to each member... Will every member who receives that link cash out? I think not. Theoretically, the WM will be making a good $1.40.
Theoretically, yes. Reality NO!
BTW, what program do you run for someone that is so young to this forum to be judging 1/10 cent links?
And if you read my post you will see that the links are BOUGHT by MEMBERS, NOT WM's.
If a WM's constantly sending out their OWN links, that sort of site I wouldnt stay long with, why, because it shows that the members of that program dont use it for advertising...
1/10 cent links arent uncalled for either, they keep the sites alive, and they do, sites dont have over 4000 members if people didnt think the program was good. NOW, if you get a site that sends one out now and then and nothing else but point mails, you wouldnt really see it worth it. But when you have sites that send them out enmass like PMI, it's worth it.
Besides, that's what a downline is for, so you can make money of them
I'm not going to think bad of a site that once in a while sends out a low-paying link.
I DO have a problem when a site sends almost ALL extremely misincentivized links. When you start to get even under $.001, what's the point of paying for it?
Honestly, I would rather have a link non-paid than one be under 0.4 cents, since I'm going to treat them exactly the same, and sales of higher paid links don't become even more damaged than they are now.
I believe that what you said about PaidMailINC works the opposite way.
Maybe not for PaidMailINC and its members specifically, but across the GPTR industry. I've always looked at this from that perspective.
QUOTE (thegocools @ Mar 7 2003, 02:22 AM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 10:03 AM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
There is not such a big difference between .01cent links and .02 cent clicks. Is there Aron. I firmly belive that if you dont have any advertisers then dont send out any links, send quality links like .4 or .5 cents when you have them. By sending out cheep links you are degrading your program from the members point of veiw. Any way this is my opinion.
Good luck to you Aron
That was .4 cent links, sorry for the confusion.
I have told my members that I will NEVER send a paid email link worth less than .4 cents (usually .5+), and NEVER have a paid to click link worth less than .2 cents (often higher). The only exclusion is for searches, which I pay directly from what the revenue is, and a generous 80% at that. Some other sites pay as little as 40% of the shared revenue. When I send points ads (usually searches), I try my hardest to not let the point value go below .4 cents.
My site will always hold to its promises to members.
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 02:40 AM)
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
Aaron isn't enforcing anything... 1/10 cent links is what is going to make this so called business die... Why hate on aaron when he's only trying to make this last and make it better? And by the way, even if you sell a "cheap link" worth 1/10 cent to 4000 members for $1.50 you wouldn't be losing money figuring that you'd have to figure in click thru rate which is probably under 40 percent probably even less for a 1/10 cent link... And then you figure in how many people will actually get paid from that link. Lets remember the WM is not giving $4.00 away but rather 1/10 of a cent to each member... Will every member who receives that link cash out? I think not. Theoretically, the WM will be making a good $1.40.
Thank you bjrosen. This idea is quite accurate. The profit margin on the cheap links is way more (in percentage) compared to reasonably incentivized ads.
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 7 2003, 02:55 AM)
QUOTE (bjrosen2 @ Mar 7 2003, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (Jaikula @ Mar 6 2003, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 7 2003, 12:33 PM)
No, not even a $1.00 minimum program should send 1/10 cent paid links.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
0.4 cents minimum for paid-email links and 0.2 cents for paid-to-click links, in my opinion.
No, that aint your opinion, that is what you have put up in your bogus laws that you are trying to enforce on EVERY GPTR site. Paid Email Standards Agreement is something you can NOT enforce, nor can you tell people to boycott a program just because they send out a 1/10 cent link. Work it out. You obviously did NOT read my post.
Colleen at PMI charges $1.50 for a 1/10 link, now if EVERYONE clicked that link within PMI, that's over 4000 members, then work it out, that is over $4, therefore the difference is coming out of the WM's pocket. Cheap links keep a site open.
Aaron isn't enforcing anything... 1/10 cent links is what is going to make this so called business die... Why hate on aaron when he's only trying to make this last and make it better? And by the way, even if you sell a "cheap link" worth 1/10 cent to 4000 members for $1.50 you wouldn't be losing money figuring that you'd have to figure in click thru rate which is probably under 40 percent probably even less for a 1/10 cent link... And then you figure in how many people will actually get paid from that link. Lets remember the WM is not giving $4.00 away but rather 1/10 of a cent to each member... Will every member who receives that link cash out? I think not. Theoretically, the WM will be making a good $1.40.
Theoretically, yes. Reality NO!
BTW, what program do you run for someone that is so young to this forum to be judging 1/10 cent links?
And if you read my post you will see that the links are BOUGHT by MEMBERS, NOT WM's.
If a WM's constantly sending out their OWN links, that sort of site I wouldnt stay long with, why, because it shows that the members of that program dont use it for advertising...
1/10 cent links arent uncalled for either, they keep the sites alive, and they do, sites dont have over 4000 members if people didnt think the program was good. NOW, if you get a site that sends one out now and then and nothing else but point mails, you wouldnt really see it worth it. But when you have sites that send them out enmass like PMI, it's worth it.
Besides, that's what a downline is for, so you can make money of them
I've never sent a cheap link and my site is alive
QUOTE (petcalent @ Mar 7 2003, 02:59 AM)
high paid links makes advertisement unreachable formost of the people's pocket interested in (average member).
That could kill a new program
Or sending one email each two months
I'm not pushing to increase ad rates, I just want them to remain reasonable.
The days are gone when sites could pay 3,5, 10 cents a click...but there's no reason that .4 - 1 cent aren't attainable.
QUOTE (jazmyni @ Mar 7 2003, 03:36 AM)
Well I read this post....and well.....now I will yap
When you start a program...the first few weeks sets your impression whether you like it or not....once you start something its almost impossible to change it.....without a lot of fuss.
I have 4 Get Paid Sites
The one with the lowest Payout is quite new
It has only a $3.00 Payout
I have paid out over $350 since it opened
No link is below 1/4 cent
Let me tell you something...
You can not just open a site and expect all the members to do all the work.
Pay them nothing at all IF you are making a huge profit.
I have seen quite a few webmasters lately sending out even search links for .15 knowing fair well they are making 4-5 Cents....Is that right ..NO
You need to spend money to make money
As a webmaster you need to go look for advertisers and other ways to make money.
I have sold TONS of Ads on auctions to people who are not members of this get paid world.....there is a whole world out there that has no idea about us.
A whole market of products. websites. services and more that needs advertising.
Sit and think for One second on where you live.....how many places have services or business that they service world wide?????
How many affiliate programs are out there????
Searches......Let me tell you.....Most Members will do Valid Searches for anyone to make money...If you treat them fair....
.10 and .15 is NOT acceptable when some are pocketing 1 Cent or more
If you know you only get 1 cent per search.....tell your members that and offer them 1/4 Cent......then a portion goes to their downline..so covers the non valid clickers..some to the program ......Thats fair
However If you know you are getting ....say 9 cents a click...Be Honest.....If you pay your members say even 2 Cents......I bet you would find your click rate would go up....your members would be more active....and happy....
How about instead of sending your own links....for 1/10 of a cent.......give some free advertising to a member....say even a paid ad to 100
Let me tell you......If that member got even 1 referral....not even that......just for you doing it so they could try your service.....I bet atleast 50% of them would BUY adveritsing.
If you are only willing to give you members 1/10 of a cent......to check out your ad.....at COST to you........and you your self are unwiling to INVEST 1/4 Cent or more per...member....what kind of message does that send your member.....If you advertisered else where......you wouldnt get it at cost......So why should your members be willing to do something your are not.
When you start a program...the first few weeks sets your impression whether you like it or not....once you start something its almost impossible to change it.....without a lot of fuss.
I have 4 Get Paid Sites
The one with the lowest Payout is quite new
It has only a $3.00 Payout
I have paid out over $350 since it opened
No link is below 1/4 cent
Let me tell you something...
You can not just open a site and expect all the members to do all the work.
Pay them nothing at all IF you are making a huge profit.
I have seen quite a few webmasters lately sending out even search links for .15 knowing fair well they are making 4-5 Cents....Is that right ..NO
You need to spend money to make money
As a webmaster you need to go look for advertisers and other ways to make money.
I have sold TONS of Ads on auctions to people who are not members of this get paid world.....there is a whole world out there that has no idea about us.
A whole market of products. websites. services and more that needs advertising.
Sit and think for One second on where you live.....how many places have services or business that they service world wide?????
How many affiliate programs are out there????
Searches......Let me tell you.....Most Members will do Valid Searches for anyone to make money...If you treat them fair....
.10 and .15 is NOT acceptable when some are pocketing 1 Cent or more
If you know you only get 1 cent per search.....tell your members that and offer them 1/4 Cent......then a portion goes to their downline..so covers the non valid clickers..some to the program ......Thats fair
However If you know you are getting ....say 9 cents a click...Be Honest.....If you pay your members say even 2 Cents......I bet you would find your click rate would go up....your members would be more active....and happy....
How about instead of sending your own links....for 1/10 of a cent.......give some free advertising to a member....say even a paid ad to 100
Let me tell you......If that member got even 1 referral....not even that......just for you doing it so they could try your service.....I bet atleast 50% of them would BUY adveritsing.
If you are only willing to give you members 1/10 of a cent......to check out your ad.....at COST to you........and you your self are unwiling to INVEST 1/4 Cent or more per...member....what kind of message does that send your member.....If you advertisered else where......you wouldnt get it at cost......So why should your members be willing to do something your are not.
*APPLAUSE*
With my 7th post in a row...lol
I just want to say I don't want to insult or bash anyone here. But I do feel very strongly on these principles.
When you take this on a much, much, larger scale...
Look at Wal-Mart. They pay their employees crap compared to unionized commercial workers, and yet because they provide deplorable working conditions to their employees, they become the #1 retail store and the #1 grocery store in the United States.
If they were bound to some rules (unionization), MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people would benefit. Not just those people that work for Wal-Mart, but those in other retail jobs that are barely able to keep their jobs as the competition has to fight and fight to keep their standing against them.
Hope my posts give everyone something to read.
I just want to say I don't want to insult or bash anyone here. But I do feel very strongly on these principles.
When you take this on a much, much, larger scale...
Look at Wal-Mart. They pay their employees crap compared to unionized commercial workers, and yet because they provide deplorable working conditions to their employees, they become the #1 retail store and the #1 grocery store in the United States.
If they were bound to some rules (unionization), MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people would benefit. Not just those people that work for Wal-Mart, but those in other retail jobs that are barely able to keep their jobs as the competition has to fight and fight to keep their standing against them.
Hope my posts give everyone something to read.
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 6 2003, 11:42 PM)
Look at Wal-Mart. They pay their employees crap compared to unionized commercial workers, and yet because they provide deplorable working conditions to their employees, they become the #1 retail store and the #1 grocery store in the United States.
I don't know now... I have a pretty good education and my best friends husband worked at wal-mart and made way more money than I did lol
QUOTE (tipsy @ Mar 6 2003, 10:52 PM)
QUOTE (aaronavouris @ Mar 6 2003, 11:42 PM)
Look at Wal-Mart. They pay their employees crap compared to unionized commercial workers, and yet because they provide deplorable working conditions to their employees, they become the #1 retail store and the #1 grocery store in the United States.
I don't know now... I have a pretty good education and my best friends husband worked at wal-mart and made way more money than I did lol
yep
My hubby works for Wal-Mart, and he's NOT in management. He makes enough to support the 4 of us quite nicely
I worked for them for almost 5 years. The associates themselves voted overwhelmingly for the union NOT to come in.
Oh, lordy, let's not get started on a Wal-Mart debate
aaronovouris, go grandstand somewhere else.
Profit margin, indeed!!! LOLOLOL!!!
TRY NONE!!! ZIPPO!!! NADA!!!! Snort, profit margins!! Maybe for SOME, but not for most. This PTRE thing is driven by competition and the fact that our economy is stinking big time right now! DUH!!! NO-ONE is going to pay for decent paying ads! The money just ain't there!
I agree with making sure you are fair to members and I do not run disgustingly low paying links, but it's also why I don't run a lot of ads and why I don't have a new car... my program stays around, but I sure don't have a PROFIT MARGIN, LOLOLOL!!!
deplorable working conditions, lololololol!
It's like listening to coworkers complain about where I work - I just say, what part of unemployment don't you understand???? Try it a while then come back to me and complain about this nice cushy place with health benefits that we work at!!!
So, aaronovouris, owned a program over any period of time lately???
Profit margin, indeed!!! LOLOLOL!!!
TRY NONE!!! ZIPPO!!! NADA!!!! Snort, profit margins!! Maybe for SOME, but not for most. This PTRE thing is driven by competition and the fact that our economy is stinking big time right now! DUH!!! NO-ONE is going to pay for decent paying ads! The money just ain't there!
I agree with making sure you are fair to members and I do not run disgustingly low paying links, but it's also why I don't run a lot of ads and why I don't have a new car... my program stays around, but I sure don't have a PROFIT MARGIN, LOLOLOL!!!
deplorable working conditions, lololololol!
It's like listening to coworkers complain about where I work - I just say, what part of unemployment don't you understand???? Try it a while then come back to me and complain about this nice cushy place with health benefits that we work at!!!
So, aaronovouris, owned a program over any period of time lately???
UNIONS!!!
let's see, let's just say SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM in the same sentence!!
better yet, FREE MONEY AND EQUAL STANDARDS FOR ALL, regardless of contribution!!!
omg, I am getting so mad I am POUNDING the keyboard!!!
Yep, pay your local produce manager the same you do your local newbie physicist... and pay your childcare worker even less... do I hear CHILDCARE UNION?? noooo, I bet no-one would PAY what it TOOK to raise THOSE wages...
spit stomp snort, grrr!
let's see, let's just say SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM in the same sentence!!
better yet, FREE MONEY AND EQUAL STANDARDS FOR ALL, regardless of contribution!!!
omg, I am getting so mad I am POUNDING the keyboard!!!
Yep, pay your local produce manager the same you do your local newbie physicist... and pay your childcare worker even less... do I hear CHILDCARE UNION?? noooo, I bet no-one would PAY what it TOOK to raise THOSE wages...
spit stomp snort, grrr!
PaidMailINC sends a lot of point ads and cheap links (1/10th cent each). And you know what? That site is sensational.
--First of all, whoever on here said that downlines really help (I apologize for not giving proper credit, but I'm lazy, LOL), they are surely correct.
*My personal earnings = $0.2929
*My total earnings = $4.8826
--Secondly (and more important to me than the cash earnings, anyway), this is THE most responsive site to send ads that I've ever seen (with Mec-co-op a close second). I'd be perfectly happy to spend all my cash earnings here on advertising, as indeed I have so far done. I love that I can get a cheap link for $1.50 and get some signups from that. I'm just about as broke as you can be and still be online, so I really appreciate this cheap price for a link that I know will get a great response! Thank goodness they offer it.
Here's one of the best sites around, and if you have a self-imposed rule about not clicking anything worth as little as 1/10th cent, you would sure be missing out here.
--First of all, whoever on here said that downlines really help (I apologize for not giving proper credit, but I'm lazy, LOL), they are surely correct.
*My personal earnings = $0.2929
*My total earnings = $4.8826
--Secondly (and more important to me than the cash earnings, anyway), this is THE most responsive site to send ads that I've ever seen (with Mec-co-op a close second). I'd be perfectly happy to spend all my cash earnings here on advertising, as indeed I have so far done. I love that I can get a cheap link for $1.50 and get some signups from that. I'm just about as broke as you can be and still be online, so I really appreciate this cheap price for a link that I know will get a great response! Thank goodness they offer it.
Here's one of the best sites around, and if you have a self-imposed rule about not clicking anything worth as little as 1/10th cent, you would sure be missing out here.
QUOTE (Brenda@PJ @ Mar 7 2003, 05:31 AM)
UNIONS!!!
let's see, let's just say SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM in the same sentence!!
better yet, FREE MONEY AND EQUAL STANDARDS FOR ALL, regardless of contribution!!!
omg, I am getting so mad I am POUNDING the keyboard!!!
Yep, pay your local produce manager the same you do your local newbie physicist... and pay your childcare worker even less... do I hear CHILDCARE UNION?? noooo, I bet no-one would PAY what it TOOK to raise THOSE wages...
spit stomp snort, grrr!
let's see, let's just say SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM in the same sentence!!
better yet, FREE MONEY AND EQUAL STANDARDS FOR ALL, regardless of contribution!!!
omg, I am getting so mad I am POUNDING the keyboard!!!
Yep, pay your local produce manager the same you do your local newbie physicist... and pay your childcare worker even less... do I hear CHILDCARE UNION?? noooo, I bet no-one would PAY what it TOOK to raise THOSE wages...
spit stomp snort, grrr!
whoa, whoa...
i never said anything about free money regardless of contribution, all i was saying was comparable wages for comparable work...not meaning to get anyone mad...
there are many, many situations in which a union is not a good idea.
but i do believe that in manufacturing and retail they are beneficial for the economy.
I'm not going to declare myself an expert on the situation, but anyone that's interested in the Wal-Mart situation may want to read some of the following articles:
I REPEAT: JUST MAKING INFORMATION KNOWN, LINKS BELOW DO NOT NECESSARILY MATCH THE VIEWS OF ME PERSONALLY!
http://www.walmartwatch.com/info/internal....internal_id=349
http://www.walmartwatch.com/info/internal....internal_id=139
http://www.nlcnet.org/WALMART/bangwal.html#Sweatshop
http://www.walmartworkersneo.com/local880/...comparrison.htm
http://www.walmartsurvivor.com/Bullbuster.html
ONCE AGAIN: LINKS ABOVE DO NOT NECESSARILY MATCH THE VIEWS OF ME PERSONALLY!
QUOTE (kglaser @ Mar 7 2003, 05:03 PM)
PaidMailINC sends a lot of point ads and cheap links (1/10th cent each). And you know what? That site is sensational.
--First of all, whoever on here said that downlines really help (I apologize for not giving proper credit, but I'm lazy, LOL), they are surely correct.
*My personal earnings = $0.2929
*My total earnings = $4.8826
--Secondly (and more important to me than the cash earnings, anyway), this is THE most responsive site to send ads that I've ever seen (with Mec-co-op a close second). I'd be perfectly happy to spend all my cash earnings here on advertising, as indeed I have so far done. I love that I can get a cheap link for $1.50 and get some signups from that. I'm just about as broke as you can be and still be online, so I really appreciate this cheap price for a link that I know will get a great response! Thank goodness they offer it.
Here's one of the best sites around, and if you have a self-imposed rule about not clicking anything worth as little as 1/10th cent, you would sure be missing out here.
--First of all, whoever on here said that downlines really help (I apologize for not giving proper credit, but I'm lazy, LOL), they are surely correct.
*My personal earnings = $0.2929
*My total earnings = $4.8826
--Secondly (and more important to me than the cash earnings, anyway), this is THE most responsive site to send ads that I've ever seen (with Mec-co-op a close second). I'd be perfectly happy to spend all my cash earnings here on advertising, as indeed I have so far done. I love that I can get a cheap link for $1.50 and get some signups from that. I'm just about as broke as you can be and still be online, so I really appreciate this cheap price for a link that I know will get a great response! Thank goodness they offer it.
Here's one of the best sites around, and if you have a self-imposed rule about not clicking anything worth as little as 1/10th cent, you would sure be missing out here.
Here! Here!
Ummmmmmmm, what would 1/10th of a cent will buy these days? Nothing.
QUOTE (Poncer @ Mar 7 2003, 06:25 PM)
Ummmmmmmm, what would 1/10th of a cent will buy these days? Nothing.
What does anything buy these days... Nothing
Ok, I'm sitting here in front of the tv deleting all of the links that pay 1/10 of a cent, and I have earned nothing!! If I sit in front of the same tv clickin' on those same links, what have I earned, granted, not much, but not much is better than nothiing at all.
Okay, if you dont click 1/10 cent links, do you click links that are worth 10 points?
QUOTE (mrbike @ Mar 7 2003, 03:22 AM)
Ok, I'm sitting here in front of the tv deleting all of the links that pay 1/10 of a cent, and I have earned nothing!! If I sit in front of the same tv clickin' on those same links, what have I earned, granted, not much, but not much is better than nothiing at all.
good saying
Most of at least some of us consider this a hobby.. That's what I tell my husband. Yes I'm not going to get rich but it's hobby it's something I enjoy doing and if in turned I get paid for it then wonderful... I mean how many hobbies are out there where you get paid to enjoy your hobby. Most of the time it's the other way around..
QUOTE (tipsy @ Mar 7 2003, 01:01 PM)
QUOTE (mrbike @ Mar 7 2003, 03:22 AM)
Ok, ?I'm sitting here in front of the tv deleting all of the links that pay 1/10 of a cent, and I have earned nothing!! If I sit in front of the same tv clickin' on those same links, what have I earned, granted, not much, but not much is better than nothiing at all.
good saying
Most of at least some of us consider this a hobby.. That's what I tell my husband. Yes I'm not going to get rich but it's hobby it's something I enjoy doing and if in turned I get paid for it then wonderful... I mean how many hobbies are out there where you get paid to enjoy your hobby. Most of the time it's the other way around.. good point!!
at least for me, cause I am in the same situation =]
a ?.01 link means that you have to click 1000 times to earn $1!!
you are earning almost no money from that site
but you can usually redeem for a cheap prize too
so I don't mind about cheap links if I can get cheap ads =]
anyway I obviously like better sites with $0.01 -or above- rates
cause you can redeem as well
but if you choose to cash out you get a decent amount of money quickly
Some websites send out 0.01 cent ones by accident I think. I know some that send out 0.01 point ones when they mean to send 1 cent ones.
The only way to stop websites sending these links with an insignificant incentive intentionally is to not click them. 0.25 cents is the lowest I'll click for, and I never join programs with a min cashout thats much over $10.
The only way to stop websites sending these links with an insignificant incentive intentionally is to not click them. 0.25 cents is the lowest I'll click for, and I never join programs with a min cashout thats much over $10.
Nothing below a sent from my program. I do not think it to be worth the while having someone wait 60 years to get paid.... some programs will the webmaster's grand children as webmasters before we get paid.
If you upgrade to gold the minimum pay out is $5.00
If you upgrade to gold the minimum pay out is $5.00
I am always happy to remind people that I NEVER send a paid link worth less than 1 cent!
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