Okay, here is how it would work. We get a group together here and we join under each other in a number of MLM/Affiliate programs so that everyone is making a profit. The people who end up at the bottom of each program will have their affiliate link advertised by everyone else above them who is already making a profit...each person who is not at the bottom will have to agree to contribute a required amount of advertising for the people who are at the bottom.
Who would be interested?
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Anyone?
I'm interested.....
I think this could work.
Count me in
PM me with details when it comes the time.
Count me in
PM me with details when it comes the time.
Count me in.
cmi 
Why not..
Cmi
Cmi
The idea sounds good vietgurl, anyway it should be worked and analyzed for multiple reasons. ie: if the program is 7x3 matrix, and there is 6 or 7 people interested the first one wouldn't be attracted to spend money on their level, because new referral will go to level 8 (in the best 7).
Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller.
If you need any info about MLM I'm open to help.
Ps: I designed an algorythm with a friend to gain to some money at roulletes, it works most the cases, especially on the wide range bet roulletes
. Anyway I have to say that there is some risk involved, it's not 100% sure to make, if it were I'd be living in Las Vegas... lol.
Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller.
If you need any info about MLM I'm open to help
.Ps: I designed an algorythm with a friend to gain to some money at roulletes, it works most the cases, especially on the wide range bet roulletes
. Anyway I have to say that there is some risk involved, it's not 100% sure to make, if it were I'd be living in Las Vegas... lol.
QUOTE (cortega26 @ Feb 19 2003, 01:26 AM)
The idea sounds good vietgurl, anyway it should be worked and analyzed for multiple reasons. ie: if the program is 7x3 matrix, and there is 6 or 7 people interested the first one wouldn't be attracted to spend money on their level, because new referral will go to level 8 (in the best 7).
Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller.
If you need any info about MLM I'm open to help.
Ps: I designed an algorythm with a friend to gain to some money at roulletes, it works most the cases, especially on the wide range bet roulletes. Anyway I have to say that there is some risk involved, it's not 100% sure to make, if it were I'd be living in Las Vegas... lol.
Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller.
If you need any info about MLM I'm open to help
.Ps: I designed an algorythm with a friend to gain to some money at roulletes, it works most the cases, especially on the wide range bet roulletes
. Anyway I have to say that there is some risk involved, it's not 100% sure to make, if it were I'd be living in Las Vegas... lol.thats fun.
I have an algorithm to wn the rouklete myself
Maybe we can change informations.
QUOTE (cortega26 @ Feb 18 2003, 09:26 AM)
The idea sounds good vietgurl, anyway it should be worked and analyzed for multiple reasons. ie: if the program is 7x3 matrix, and there is 6 or 7 people interested the first one wouldn't be attracted to spend money on their level, because new referral will go to level 8 (in the best 7).
Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller.
If you need any info about MLM I'm open to help.
Ps: I designed an algorythm with a friend to gain to some money at roulletes, it works most the cases, especially on the wide range bet roulletes. Anyway I have to say that there is some risk involved, it's not 100% sure to make, if it were I'd be living in Las Vegas... lol.
Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller.
If you need any info about MLM I'm open to help
.Ps: I designed an algorythm with a friend to gain to some money at roulletes, it works most the cases, especially on the wide range bet roulletes
. Anyway I have to say that there is some risk involved, it's not 100% sure to make, if it were I'd be living in Las Vegas... lol.You do have a point there. The trick to making money with MLMs is to get into it early, and luck. Of course, the people who make the most money are the webmasters....if a group here wants to all put in some money to start up an affiliate program, then it would also be cool (I have looked into it but I do not have the money on my own to pay for a good script). However, I've talked to many people who have been successful in some MLMs and not successful in others, and the ones that have been successful in making money got in at the top and had a supporting base...aka they had people who had agreed to join under them. If you have noticed, people DO buy into these MLM/Affiliate programs. That is why it is beneficial to get a strong base in early at the top of a program and then do mass advertising.
Is anyone else interested? I'm looking for a group that is a bit larger.
cmi, i would also consider putting up the $ for the program if someone is willing to run it
I might be interested. I'd like some more information please.
"The idea sounds good vietgurl, anyway it should be worked and analyzed for multiple reasons. ie: if the program is 7x3 matrix, and there is 6 or 7 people interested the first one wouldn't be attracted to spend money on their level, because new referral will go to level 8 (in the best 7)."
? i dont understand that point with 6 or 7 people only the first level would be filled, also with most legit mlms thier are referal bonuses , incentives ect. also due to attrition mlmers the big hitters know the only way to sustain a big check is too recruit, promote, recruit.
"Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling."
mlm in the us has created more millionaires only second to realestate, and a ponzi scheme is a self funding program , where thier is no product, and is illegal its not a mlm. here in NA the goverment regulates the industry quite well, as well as thier are watch groups such as wwscam, and bigmouth ect.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
I agree with your assumption that most schemes dont, but a solid mlm cant be started for a few thousand dollars, they are a company like any other consisting of marketing, and corporate departments , i doubt if its really possible to start a real mlm for under 250k.
"Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller."
? Those companies do spend $ on advertising, Morinda is being featured in a movie (sponsor), they have been on paid tv ect. Advertising is the life blood of a company, why does coca cola spend millions a year? it works. and i wouldnt mention amway, they dont even market in na anymore because of thier previous illegal activities,(well they do but under the guise of quixtar)
anyways i just have a difference of opinion, i do very well in mlm , maybe in your part of the world its different, i also have a different point of view in what criteria (based on our regulatory requirements) determines a mlm. i dont think justy because they pay on levels its a mlm, anyways this is a good way to promote a company the problem is finding a solid company and running with it
? i dont understand that point with 6 or 7 people only the first level would be filled, also with most legit mlms thier are referal bonuses , incentives ect. also due to attrition mlmers the big hitters know the only way to sustain a big check is too recruit, promote, recruit.
"Unfortunately ponzi schemes (99% of the MLM's out there, except a few ones) are made to get money for the owner and never to the mass group of affiliates, even in the case that those affiliates try to make such a group like you're telling."
mlm in the us has created more millionaires only second to realestate, and a ponzi scheme is a self funding program , where thier is no product, and is illegal its not a mlm. here in NA the goverment regulates the industry quite well, as well as thier are watch groups such as wwscam, and bigmouth ect.
I have some years studying MLM's (online and offline ones) and most of them don't offer enough attraction for the last level so they eventually collapse (CORE Club for example, I think they are gone by now). The most spread case by now on the net is the Costa Marketing website, it's a clear ponzi scheme, they don't offer anything in return to the new members.
I agree with your assumption that most schemes dont, but a solid mlm cant be started for a few thousand dollars, they are a company like any other consisting of marketing, and corporate departments , i doubt if its really possible to start a real mlm for under 250k.
"Why is AMWAY and Herbalife and Morinda going so well with their MLM?, because they at least offer a nice product to the customer, they don't spend money in advertise on tv, radio, newspapers but that money goes thru the upline of your reseller."
? Those companies do spend $ on advertising, Morinda is being featured in a movie (sponsor), they have been on paid tv ect. Advertising is the life blood of a company, why does coca cola spend millions a year? it works. and i wouldnt mention amway, they dont even market in na anymore because of thier previous illegal activities,(well they do but under the guise of quixtar)
anyways i just have a difference of opinion, i do very well in mlm , maybe in your part of the world its different, i also have a different point of view in what criteria (based on our regulatory requirements) determines a mlm. i dont think justy because they pay on levels its a mlm, anyways this is a good way to promote a company the problem is finding a solid company and running with it
Okay, I am talking with a few of my "partners" who have directed me in MLMs and seeing if they could get the tons of people who they also direct with MLMs to join us.
I'd be interested in doing this... so cmi
I didn't understand all of plans in this thread. But I've been a member of a MLM before, and I'm now a member of CASHevolution. You can count me in as interrested. I could do translation (to Norwegian) work and so if it's needed for the group website.
If you are already a member you can't join this group for Cashevolution.
For other MLMs yes OK...
For other MLMs yes OK...
I?m interested, but i would like some more info.
//Apa
//Apa
I'm vietgurl's downline at cashaday.co.uk
so CMI !!!
btw , I'm not very clear with the scheme ... can anyone plz tell me how ?
so CMI !!!
btw , I'm not very clear with the scheme ... can anyone plz tell me how ?
What happened to this idea Vietgirl.
//Apa
//Apa
Maybe you would like to count me in as well?
you can have a try!
I would be more interested to participate and invest in a PTR program then build a group in MLM programs. People are joining fast PTR programs because they are free and if the program has a low payout minimum and offers relativ cheap advertising, I think it won`t be difficult to make money with such a program. I am not a webmaster, so I can`t run such a program alone, but if someone interested, I will be glad to participate.
I would be more interested to participate and invest in a PTR program then build a group in MLM programs. People are joining fast PTR programs because they are free and if the program has a low payout minimum and offers relativ cheap advertising, I think it won`t be difficult to make money with such a program. I am not a webmaster, so I can`t run such a program alone, but if someone interested, I will be glad to participate.
I might be interested can I have some more information please.
As I said the idea looks good to me, I just wonder how are we gonna do to fill the levels of the mlm, when I mentioned 3x7 example I meant a downline like in the downline builder.
If we fill the levels each by each (I don't know if this is correct in english) and get into the next once the previous is full we will have a lot of people without referral. It has a advantage and a disadvantage. Let's see
On matrix 2x (2x10, 2x15... 2xn). You (we) will have half (if members are even) or half+1/2 (if members are odd) without referrals if you use the fill full level by level.
Let see:
1
2
4
8
16
32
64
128
256
512
1024
2048
so on...
If we are (example) 26 people interested, we'll fill
1.- 1 / 1 first level (full)
2.- 2 / 2 second level (full)
3.- 4 / 4 third level (full)
4.- 8 / 8 fourth level (full)
5.- 11 / 16 fifth level (not full)
Then, you have three levels with their first level full (first, second and third) wich mean 7 people (1+2+4), in the fourth level you will have 5 people with their first level full (5x2=10) and one person with 1 direct referral (11-10=1). Then you will have 2 people on level fourth without referrals (I wish I could draw this to explain it better... lol).
Finally, you'll have 11 (fifth level) + 2 (fourth level without referrals) equals 13 people without referrals and 1 person with just referral.
What I meant is that if we fill each level step by step once each one is full you will have (in the 2x) half or half+1 of the people without referrals (in 3x forced matrices it's another formula).
Anyway I know a good 2x mlm online company which is offering real product (a good one by the way) and giving away 96% of the coming cash. You may want to check the comission plan at http://www.ceint.com/rep/peri-tech/opportunity.htm
So, the advantage is that (hopefully we get a "perfect number"(*) of interested people) we can ALL promote the same site with a rotator (I can give the script to the without any cost).
The disadvantage, there will be (at least at the beginning) half or half+1 people without any referral.
I have some other ideas to make it work, I will tell it if we get the group, a very commited group to make this a success.
(*) "perfect numbers" are: 3 (1+2), 7 (1+2+4), 15 (1+2+4+8), 31 (1+2+4+8+16) and so on... P.N.=(2En)-1 with n>=2.
Regards to everyone,
Carlos Ortega.
If we fill the levels each by each (I don't know if this is correct in english) and get into the next once the previous is full we will have a lot of people without referral. It has a advantage and a disadvantage. Let's see
On matrix 2x (2x10, 2x15... 2xn). You (we) will have half (if members are even) or half+1/2 (if members are odd) without referrals if you use the fill full level by level.
Let see:
1
2
4
8
16
32
64
128
256
512
1024
2048
so on...
If we are (example) 26 people interested, we'll fill
1.- 1 / 1 first level (full)
2.- 2 / 2 second level (full)
3.- 4 / 4 third level (full)
4.- 8 / 8 fourth level (full)
5.- 11 / 16 fifth level (not full)
Then, you have three levels with their first level full (first, second and third) wich mean 7 people (1+2+4), in the fourth level you will have 5 people with their first level full (5x2=10) and one person with 1 direct referral (11-10=1). Then you will have 2 people on level fourth without referrals (I wish I could draw this to explain it better... lol).
Finally, you'll have 11 (fifth level) + 2 (fourth level without referrals) equals 13 people without referrals and 1 person with just referral.
What I meant is that if we fill each level step by step once each one is full you will have (in the 2x) half or half+1 of the people without referrals (in 3x forced matrices it's another formula).
Anyway I know a good 2x mlm online company which is offering real product (a good one by the way) and giving away 96% of the coming cash. You may want to check the comission plan at http://www.ceint.com/rep/peri-tech/opportunity.htm
So, the advantage is that (hopefully we get a "perfect number"(*) of interested people) we can ALL promote the same site with a rotator (I can give the script to the without any cost).
The disadvantage, there will be (at least at the beginning) half or half+1 people without any referral.
I have some other ideas to make it work, I will tell it if we get the group, a very commited group to make this a success.
(*) "perfect numbers" are: 3 (1+2), 7 (1+2+4), 15 (1+2+4+8), 31 (1+2+4+8+16) and so on... P.N.=(2En)-1 with n>=2.
Regards to everyone,
Carlos Ortega.
well just to clarify this is vietgirls thread so no one really knows whats up, as for making suggestions about programs thats a little premature, second its best to implement a power building system, similar to concorde group as a downline builder. with self rep. webpages ect.
lastly cortega about that above mentioned program dont know much, but i heard you slam core club and in essence your comp offers the same things online tools, plus the options of egold and paypal, they should also offer credit card and m.o.
lastly cortega about that above mentioned program dont know much, but i heard you slam core club and in essence your comp offers the same things online tools, plus the options of egold and paypal, they should also offer credit card and m.o.
I am interested for sure
If you get it off the ground, send me a PM
If you get it off the ground, send me a PM
I did the draw but I can't upload it... 
Draw?
cmi - what would it invlove - just signing up or what?
QUOTE (Billytallent @ Feb 26 2003, 05:44 PM)
well just to clarify this is vietgirls thread so no one really knows whats up, as for making suggestions about programs thats a little premature, second its best to implement a power building system, similar to concorde group as a downline builder.
Well, I think the thread was also created to give opinions and ideas, I'll be very interested to know how a power building system work. I think every and each suggestion is a little piece to make it work.
Count me in
at the end of this week there will be a new MLM program, from a big advertiser of mine, I will give4 you some more info what the program is about etc. I think this can be huge because it is new so many referrals to gain.
My advertiser gives me the full launch so I can control everything and especially for this group then, I hope there will be more interested so that we can promote it big
But like I said I will give you more information tomorrow or so what the matrix is about the level structure and how you can earn
Greetings,
Bennie
at the end of this week there will be a new MLM program, from a big advertiser of mine, I will give4 you some more info what the program is about etc. I think this can be huge because it is new so many referrals to gain.
My advertiser gives me the full launch so I can control everything and especially for this group then, I hope there will be more interested so that we can promote it big
But like I said I will give you more information tomorrow or so what the matrix is about the level structure and how you can earn
Greetings,
Bennie
cmi
QUOTE (Billytallent @ Feb 26 2003, 05:44 PM)
well just to clarify this is vietgirls thread so no one really knows whats up, as for making suggestions about programs thats a little premature, second its best to implement a power building system, similar to concorde group as a downline builder. with self rep. webpages ect.
lastly cortega about that above mentioned program dont know much, but i heard you slam core club and in essence your comp offers the same things online tools, plus the options of egold and paypal, they should also offer credit card and m.o.
lastly cortega about that above mentioned program dont know much, but i heard you slam core club and in essence your comp offers the same things online tools, plus the options of egold and paypal, they should also offer credit card and m.o.
Waaaaayyyy wrong my dear friend.
Cutting Edge International is not offering those crappy ebooks. Seems like you didn't research very well the site. You can check what you get with your monthly fee here: http://www.ceint.com/rep/oneiros/webhosting.htm
This is a real product.
Ps: please stop pointing other previous posts or opinions, seems like you really want to get into the personal discussion again. I've stated clearly and several times I DO NOT PROMOTE/SUPPORT SCAMS!. This is company is offering a REAL PRODUCT which is Web-hosting. You asked to please put an end to the other discussion so please let stop remembering any previous posts/comments regarding personal comments please. Thanks.
Ps2: this was JUST an example of what I meant with my example, I'm not inviting nor asking to vietgurl to choose this mlm.
cortega calm down, i asked a question in essence
seriously i made a comment i never said it was a scam, i said they offered similar products, core club also offers autoresponders ect
power building see concorde group you must have heard of them they are the largest group and probably the most successfull
suggestions
pick programs with a 1 time fee monthly fee type programs are harder to work ( or if thier is a fee have them pre pay 6 months in advance to ensure success)
as for my comments im not attacking you i just like to think others would like a second opinion from someone who earns a comfortable living from mlm
seriously i made a comment i never said it was a scam, i said they offered similar products, core club also offers autoresponders ect
power building see concorde group you must have heard of them they are the largest group and probably the most successfull
suggestions
pick programs with a 1 time fee monthly fee type programs are harder to work ( or if thier is a fee have them pre pay 6 months in advance to ensure success)
as for my comments im not attacking you i just like to think others would like a second opinion from someone who earns a comfortable living from mlm
I think it's a good work, I want to join
Wow, I'm scared...this thread took on a life of it's own!!! (been a little busy; just moved so haven't been active for the last few days or so)
So, should I set up a separate forum for this and then we could all join there and then try to recruit more people?
So, should I set up a separate forum for this and then we could all join there and then try to recruit more people?
QUOTE
So, should I set up a separate forum for this and then we could all join there and then try to recruit more people?
That would be a good idea!
CMI
i would like to know more about that
i would like to know more about that
i'm interested. please pm me with the info.
QUOTE (vietgurl @ Feb 26 2003, 11:50 PM)
Wow, I'm scared...this thread took on a life of it's own!!! (been a little busy; just moved so haven't been active for the last few days or so)
So, should I set up a separate forum for this and then we could all join there and then try to recruit more people?
So, should I set up a separate forum for this and then we could all join there and then try to recruit more people?
Well, I think you (we) should put some order before joining anything then choice the company. I think you might want to make a good research before choosing the right mlm or wait to get a brand new one, and then say let's go... lol.
You can even (I can help if you want) set up a yahoo group to get everyone informed rapidly of the (I hate my english... I can't remember the word) news (is not word I wanted to use, but it fit there). You can PM if you want,
Regards,
Carlos Ortega.
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