Okay, I'm (as I said before) new in the biz, and now I've had so much help from you guys telling me the sites with high payout are scams.

This is really great to know, but how come we are all here? If there's only pennies to be made, is it actually worth the effort we put in it?

Don't know about you, but, for me, the thrill of having a payout of 1 cent is like being excited to find a three years old candy bar behind the sofa.

"Yyyyeeeeesss, candy!!!" Yummy, indeed...

So, I guess I got it all wrong. How can I earn money? Anyone?

If you are in this for the big bucks, you should cease PTR altogether. I have a full time job that keeps me extremely busy so I only do it as a hobby and when I have time. When I do get paid from PTR I use it to buy my kids or hubby something extra.
This is not the industry that will make you rich by any means. It is just something that I have always enjoyed doing.

If you sign up for YourPTR, ShareADSpace and paid-to-promote - its quite achievable to earn $40 each per month from these programs, which isnt too bad at all If you want more info PM me

just for "the heck of it"......kind of like a challenge. you're not gonna get rich, if you need those kind of $$$, get a real job, cause it won't happen here.

Some people in this buisness manage to figure it out and makes a nice chunk of change every month. I am working my way up to making around $15 a month, which, for doing almost nothing I see as pretty good.

Just have to stick with it and learn the skills and trades.

I just do PTR as a bit of fun! It is good when you get paid though- even $1!!!

However with SAS I can make around $20-$30 a month.

I am also trying out PAID-TO-PROMOTE. Just asked for my 1st payment! Heres hoping I get my $5!!

I make more money using hyips and investment schemes but this is high risk with no guarantee of success. In a good month I can make $100-$200.

Im here because the closest looney bin wouldn't even take me

Actually because I enjoy it, its a fun hobby, I love the people here and Im addicted to it. Its not much money, but it does come in handy seeing some payments each month and its good for some small things in life or saving it for something nice.

I just do it as an excuse to not do my housework. LOL

Seriously, there are lots of good programs out there that PAY, and within 24 hours. I also belong to a few good affiliate programs that I use on my website. It's on a free host and not very good, but I still manage to make a few bucks. :-) It just takes time to weed out all the garbage out there. The main thing is to not belong to too many programs. If you find yourself getting stressed out, drop a few. I manage to make anywhere from $75-$150/month from my site and the programs that I belong to. If I put some more time and effort into my site I could probably double that--I've just put it off because I'm not very good at working on my site. Most of my PTR earnings to to advertise my website and affiliate programs. Much better bang for the buck that way!

This stuff is extremly addicting!! I make enuff to pay for my cheap internet and for a tiny bit of advertising. Always readding, researching on ways to promote and make more! You can make money if u put effort into it. Just have fun with it!

As others have said I only do this as a hobby, I work two part time jobs and just do this to have a little spending money for ebay, etc...

What is housework???

I do only two paid to read programs, Soredtherose and live from ny mails.. they both make me over $5 a month. I do the ads when listening to music, or listening to audio books. I am not here to make big money. I think getting over $10 a month for little work is pretty good. And I like having money in my paypal.
And if you saved the money you would have $120 in a year. Is that bad? I don't think so.

No one makes much money but every little helps. its one of them things you either love or hate.

I average about US$120 per month for year 2004, so I am not complaining

I read my mail when I am chatting with friends or family online so it cost me nothing in time and earn enough that it would pay my internet, if I need it to. But to me it is just another way to save money same as recycling cans and mailing cash rebates. Indiviually none of them would make me alot of money, but put all the money in a side account and would be surprised at how the amount adds up. Use it to by savings bonds, special birthday or christmas presents.

Thats a great idea!

I am in full agreement with you firefighter!

I don't know about anybody else, but as sad as this may be, I am totally addicted to this clicking lifestyle...and to this forum. I CAN'T leave.
(until they kick me out, LOL)

edited to add: Ironically enough, I have made enough money from one site to buy a carpet shampooer, and enough from another for my copay at the dentist ($30)--the sites? MikesPaid4Email and AYS

Then go shampoo the dentist's carpet

Why am I here ?

Ummmm - need to think about that ..... can only think of one driving factor right now ....... and it ain't the money


SJ

Heck no!! He just about pulled my head off my neck extracting 1 crummy wisdom tooth...I ain't doin' him no favors

Wow, I am impressed!

All from paid to read?

Tell me your secret!

Geeee and I thought my sites were the nearest looney bin and is why you participated

PTR is not a place to make huge bucks. Some do extremely well some do ok. But you have to be willing to put the time in. The old saying of it takes money to make money applies on ptr as well. You want to make the money on ptr you must be willing to invest and promote and work at it and then it doesn't always pan out. This is a fun thing to do not a get rich quick scheme. I think one would make more working at burger king if they really wanted to make some money


Edited for bad spelling... shouldn't be typing and sipping ... ooops did I say that he he

I bet I get flamed for this but here goes.

PTR sites could be making you a lot of money per month but they dont because the members do not support the advertisers. What advertiser in his/her right mind would continue to buy ads when they get no results?

I've actually been quite pleased with the results I've gotten from my advertising of late, and am just off to place another ad.

It's for the cookies...

BTW-where are the cookies I was promised.


Actually, I started hoping to make enough to make up for the wages I lost when I quit work to be a mom and wife.

But what I got was alot more then money, I have made some amazing friends, learned a few things about the net, and learned a whole lot about myself and the "world" that I am in. I have learned that no matter how good intentions stuff can go wrong, I have learned that you can't please everyone, and I have learned that no matter how intense stuff in this industry can be---there is always a real life away from this computer.

If you stick around long enough this will be come an addiction. Nothing you can do about it. There are some things in this industry that are like a soap opera. And as much as we all say we don't want to see another thread about it----admit it---we are just waiting for the next alien abduction.

Like others have said, there are some sites that pay and pay quick---just don't expect to make much per click. Check out the praises folder and you'll find quite a few.

Tiff

I would like to add that I think I have managed to keep my brain from atrophying just a little bit since I quit work

Actually some of what you say is true, but not totally. There are many honest members who do support the advertisers out there. Advertisers as well as Members need to take responsibility in their parts in PTR as well as program owners.

It is a the members job to look at ads and consider them. Hopefully they will support some of them.

It is the Program Owners job to bring in advertising that will interest the members. Without all working together you are right but....

Advertisers have to realize one ad is not always going to cut it. Many understand that it is about generating a name and then with a reputation and branding that members and program owners will be supportive.

It is a vicious circle but advertisers have to realize to that it is a gamble running an ad. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose. I see to many search advertisers want to blame members and a program for bad results but have they taken a look at the ad they sent or what they are sending or ? I mean come on it takes all three to make ptr work.

As lots of other members said, it's a hobby, and if you're going to have a hobby, you might as well have one that pays a few bucks. I figure I make about enough in PTR to cover my hubby's online video game subscription each month... about $15. Now that I think about it, that's a pretty rotten deal. My hobby makes the money and his spends it.

I would really like to know how to earn $20 or more on SAS and whatnot. It seems some people do really well with it while I haven't even reached $2 yet. Is there something I'm missing?

Anyways, it's all for the fun of it to me, to see if I can build a successful "business" out of it. I like building and creating things... web pages (I made my own), banners (did my own too), downlines (ok, not going as well), and basically just pushing my limits to see how well I can do, and there's no real risk involved other than a little bit of time.

You can earn more if you decide to own a ptr or search engine and have good business sense.With the ptr industry you have to spend some money to make some money.I don't advice spending cash out of your pocket but use some of your earns to advertise ptp programs and search engines and then you can earn a good bit more.There are also other affiliate programs that you can use to make more money but you won't get rich doing this unless you are very creative.

IM making over $250 a month... not too shabby if you ask me.

Brian

Yes not shabby at all. But you can't live on $3000 a year
And then theres always the question how many hours a day do you click just to earn that $250/month.

Brent

Ditto to most of what everyone else has said. PTR isn't about to replace my full-time job earnings wise, but it's a nice way to earn a little extra cash. So far this month I've been paid a total of almost $60...and the month isn't over yet. That makes a nice dent in the back to school expenses.

Nope my earnings are from GPTR and SE sites

Good grief, how?

Its not all from GPTR sites, going by what it says in his siggy

well, to be really honest with you, this is a waste of time, unless you have an awesome downline under you, but..to get it takes some time.... too much time
anyways, there are a few programs outhere where you can really make BIG money, but like everybody know "you need money to make money", so if you don't have a penny to invest it could be a very hard work

Someone forgot to tell me this and how to do it then I made more money clicking and spent less time at it then I do running my programs....

It depends on the wm to be honest.Making money by owning a program can take some time and patience but it is possible if you keep working at it.What program do you own if you do mind me asking.

Clicking alot... LOL.

seriously...its a two clicker household so anytime someone is on the computer there is some kinda clickin goin on.

90% is from PTRs and 10% search engines. Although the $74 I just got from domain hop throws that % off this month... But I will go over $300 this month too

Brian

Pssst...look in the siggy

hej, annapanna, det finns m?nga bra och enkla s?tt att tj?na pengar p? n?tet, och m?ngabra s?tt ?ven utanf?r, det beror p? hur och med vad du vill
tj?na pengar jag har M?NGA bra saker. H?lsn. Minnie

Im a stay at home mom. I put some massive time into these programs and I make more than a buck.. it just depends on how devoted you are to it. how much time you can spend on it. I am currently saving for a gift to myself that I have wanted for over 10 years. It will take months but it will be worth the work. After that I will save a small nest egg for our family. Maybe for a day out, or if an appliance should break down. Whatever you make remember its more than you made before you took a bit of time to read some mails for pretty easy cash

Just a warning to the ones promoting these pages saying they have earned $1,000,000+ in PTR. If someone turns you into the IRS and they can prove who you are and you live in the USA they WILL tax you for what you say you have made even if theres no proof you made it.

I doubt you have really made that much in this business so please reconsider advertising that lie.

Do you inhouse surf? I can make 20 cents in a full days worth of surfing (500 pages)

Well I make around $45 per month pure profit with SAS but to get there it means I pay $7 per week for the Elite membership and since I'm from a tier 2 country I then get $1.5/1000 hits. I've got a monthly SAS ad at WolfEmails which easily brings me more than those 1000 valid hits per day (yesterday 1603 valid hits), the ad cost me $14 for 30 days. In addition to the Wolf ad I've got couple smaller ads running and I also inhouse surf around 400 to 600 pages per day. Then when calculating the costs out I'm left with around $1.5 per day which I can say is profit.

Tho not everything about the membership is about the bigger value of the clicks or to be able to inhouse surf more, the unlimited hits to a site I choose is the bomb! This is my 3rd week going as Elite and my rotator page has gotten 76,383 hits so far (started 2005-01-29)!!!

Hey Pia, my congrats to you

As a stay at home mom I got into PTRs thinking that I could make a "real" income from it.

After a week or so I figured out that it wasn't going to work like that and I started trying to come up with a plan. I began choosing my programs more carefully and working on building downlines in the most stable ones. I started advertising my SAS.

At this point I'm in just over 20 programs. I've worked hard and gotten good downlines at most of my long-term programs. I also have what I consider short-term programs, those are ones where I'll get paid once and quit or programs that I only use my earnings to redeem for ads. Then there's PTP and manual traffic exchanges - use credits at one to promote the others. It's an incredibly circular industry.

I'm not a "big earner" yet but I'm happy with what I'm making and I can already see that my current strategy is working nicely. If you want, you can PM me and we can try to figure out a way for you to maximize your earnings.

The sites I own are PECOMail, PeCoAds (Redeem For Ads) and Bling-Bling which I just took over... I was laughing though about owning a program would make you more money. I guess it would depend on how much work you did as i did a whole lot less work clicking and made more then I do running my sites lol...