I need to vent as I have absoultely Had it!!!

I own 4 Get paid sites. have paid out lots to my members, send lots of emails, have contests, give stuff away, help chairities and Lots more.....BUT>.............

Some people have gotten my Completely Ticked OFF!!!

Let me tell you what I am sick of from members:

Members who email you constantly arguing with you to change your terms to suit them. IF you sign up to a program and dont agree with the terms why the H&*((*& did u bother signing up?????

Members who send you SPAM and then get mad when you deducte money from thier account as per terms. You know when you send the program owner. chain letters, begging them to join your program etc...

Members who requst payments when terms say 15-30 day and then Email you Every 6 Hours after there request asking where there money is

People who arent even IN your program.......who want to argue with you on how to run your sites so that they can join.

Members who DEMAND, not ask, for Detailed explainations on why you changed things thats not to their liking and threaten to call SCAM if you dont do as they think you should.

Members who click those Dang Redemption buttons Steady when they dont want the redemption

Members who send in ad orders steady to fill your mail box and never have any intention of paying

Members who send in tons of Contact messages when EVERYONE of thier questions is in the FAQ page

Members who email you EVERY time they lose JUST ONE referral

Members who somehow thing they are the ONLY member in your program

Members who sign up and they BLOCK mail from you

Members who dont click in months and go Crazy when you delete their account

Members who repond to paid to sign up offers with simply "GIVE ME MY MONEY" nothing else???


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I try to be very fair........Members are all to quick to run to this folder and call scam and cheat and everything else, They love to start posts with all the things that Webmasters should Do and should not do.

Members need to have some responsibility too....You need to think before you go sending email and posting and freaking out after 10 minutes. Everyone does not sit here 24 hours a day.

READ TERMS and FAQ pages before you go on your little freak out and if you dont like them DONT join.

Sorry but I had to vent

DITTO

And I would like to add

Members who constantly asking why there are no links being sent except searches and never purchase ads to send...

Members who complain its not fair that upgraded members get more from the program.

Lets not forget the ones who get deleted, then make all kinds of threats...

Take a deep breath...chant your mantra....oooooooohhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm

Feel better?

(yeah, well, it doesn't always work for me either )

No matter what you do (or don't do) someone is gonna complain or be unhappy. Just remember all the great members who do things right, yell and scream at the computer if you need to, then go on about your day

Oh I do.......but I thought for ONCE maybe if the some of the members who do this ALL the time......the LIGHT might come on .......and it felt better to freak out

Hey, all the members have folders to complain about us, maybe we need to have a folder to complain about all of them??


What do ya think, sounds fair to me....

I don't think that E-mail Value,Cash Wage, Infinity-Search, Z-Cash,SizzleClicks do appear frequently in this Complaints thread.

No they dont however .......Daily thier are theats on it. theats to hack the sites, etc.....and well if you saw my email you would wonder why I havent Freaked out earlier

ANd its not Juts for me....its for all those other webmasters who often get drug threw the mud for no reason

Go threw this complaints folder and tell me how many of them are REAL compalints and How many are UNPATIENT people

you have forgotten: members how signup in all your programs with different emails and pretends you recognise them as the same person(LOL is me, I know I'm a disgrace)

ROTFL Dana, I love your posts :-)

You shoukd include that in your email signature everytime someone sends you a complaint.

Well I am sending the URL to this thread out to my members LOL

Are you paying us to read it? Because if not, you're a goober-head and I quit!!!

(um, just kidding)

Been getting angry emails reguarding those using email addies that got asked to change?

First at Z cash members from india or china need prior permission so the extenstions of .in and .cn shouldnt be a problem. Those that end in .pl bounce steady....and with the 400+ emails that are bouncing 80% are Zwallet......so Yes I asked people to change them.

WHY?

Because when I delelte you for bouncing emails you will freak out.....Thought I would save us all the trouble

I could of just went along deleted you all that are bouncing without warning.....as its clearly written in terms

Hmmm , I havent seen any of these programs being put down on the forums yet. As for myself , I havent complained about any programs but ONE and I belong to about 100 lol But the one I did complain about well um coughgagcough, REALLY pi**ed me off and im sure many have seen my posts about it but somehow I got reinstated and since have not made any bad posts as I am seeing if this guy is for real or what? maybe his system was screwed up , who knows but I sure hope all the people deleted unjustly get their stuff back. any wayyyyy lol im off the subject, I think cashwage (and I lost everything when the hacker got ya and still i rejoined with nothing) is a good program and I have no complaints other then I would like to chop the hackers um (edited) off!! lol and hippie chicks is a great program to, never had a complaint there either.I dotnbelive I have ever emailed you for anything so I ``think`` Im not in that group your talkin to (so why am i posting anyway???) ok I have ranted about absolutely nothing here sorry lol well keep up the good job any way

If the try to say that bounced emails arent a problem, point them in the direction of Colleen at PMI. It's still being discussed in the news forum...

And that's hte thing, they dont listen half the time, and hte other half of the time they dont read...

Well put Dana and everyone else who chimed in!

I know that there are alot more issues not being stated here that we, the members are not aware of because we are not site owners ourselves.

I am very enlightened by the posts being made by webmasters on these very issues and am more aware of what it must feel like to be in their shoes.

If every member were to run a website and deal with these very issues for just 24 hours I am sure there would be fewer complaints and issues from both sides, but that would make the PTR world a perfect place ROFL.

Anyways, I just wanted to commend you for having the courage to come forward and put this issue in the spotlight yet again, maybe others will take heed this time. LOL

We can only hope!

Keep up the good work!!!

serenemom

I'd like to add members that sign up, NEVER click a single link, then when they get deleted after more then a month they start threatening...


If you ain't gonna click, don't sign up!

peter

that is there already

my biggest argument is members requesting payment and not updated their info so i have no idea who to pay

then they request the next day so i go back in and .... still havent updated their info after the third time I just delete the redemtion mail ... I dont have time to email them all as there are so many and with 125 requests every 5 days it gets a bit much.

Then there are those who request after joining a few days ... obviously they didnt read the TOS because it states that they have to be with us a month.

Then there are those who click the moneybookers redemption button, with paypal as their payment option and egold number as their payment ID

no hamsters here but the light is definately on and no-one is home !!

ROFLMAO.

A chance for the webmasters to get their own back at the members.

This is so funny!!!

Keep going.

Lol, how about when someone signs up for a program, and never got one single e-mail from the program? It happened to me for one program because I never got an e-mail to click on a link, and the owner deleted my account. AhMoola anybody?

Go get them!!!!

LOL

there wil be more left for the good ones.

patience is a virtue!!!

if you provide a service to people. or in this case giving them FREE money.
people, some, will always complaint, always know better

but it is good to get it out sometimes, SHOUT, SCREAM

but remember!! a lot more people know you're doing a SUPER job.

thank you for that!!
i'm ferry surry vor tipingerrorrss LOL

Yep, or the program site has somehow gotten itself on SPEWS and they dont know why...

I think someone posted about that in this folder about a program deleting anyone that had a bounceback because of someone using SPEWS listing for blocking spam...

That's when if that's the case the WM needs to look for another host so that doesnt happen...

Amen!

he-he

ROFL
I can definitely identify with all that!

I think this is the responsability of being a webmaster.

I wish i had the money to have my own site and be a webmaster.

So if you look in the pozitive way it is not so bad.

YOu can buy the Priveledge of the HUGE headache and the ability to go threw a keyboard a week form thowing it across the room at Ebay quite cheap sometimes if you look at the auctions

You should join those of us who are gluttons for self-punishmant.

[quote=Jaikula,Feb 7 2003, 05:31 PM][QUOTE]
Yep, or the program site has somehow gotten itself on SPEWS and they dont know why...

I think someone posted about that in this folder about a program deleting anyone that had a bounceback because of someone using SPEWS listing for blocking spam...

That's when if that's the case the WM needs to look for another host so that doesnt happen...[/quote]
Usually that happens when members spam their referral links.

What is SPEWS and how do members spam their referal links. I don't understand this bouncing. Can someone give me a brief explanation or refer me to a place to read about it.

Thanks

Spews ... spam early warning system

if ONE program gets put on that list every single program on that server will get blocked by internet service providers and web mails who use the system.

You cannot be removed either ... its a PITA!

when the programs are blocked then the email gets sent back to the original sender (bouncing back from the block) hence the term bouncing mail

Spam is unsolicited email ... in other words members sent an email to some one who NEVER requested it directly from them. For instance you double opt in to most PTRE companies ... so you signed up to accept emails from the webmaster or someone put in charge but you didnt request it directly from other members. Sometimes members use the email address at the end of referral links to send others email. Those members didnt request it so its spam.

Well as a member who tries to look for the answer before I ask a question I would like to thank all the webmasters for the great hardwork they do. From what I understand you guys make very little money but yet you work so hard. I hate hearing about the malacious you get put through. Most those people who give you heck seem to be those people who are doing something wrong in the first place or they just aren't very nice.

I just wanted to thank you all and tell you to keep up the good work.