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MacGyver
On July 16, 2002, I signed up for Jay's Paid E-Mail.

By December 19, 2002, I had accumulated $96.74 in earnings ($56.74 over and above the $40 sign-up bonus). I accumulated these earnings entirely on my own, without the benefit of referrals or downline.

A few days later, my account disappeared from Jay's Paid E-Mail -- it no longer recognized my username, password, or e-mail address. I sent at least 5 (polite, non-threatening) e-mails to Jay, and never received the courtesy of a reply. To avoid missing out on Jay's paying e-mails, I re-signed on January 1, 2003.

I suppose that, when you have such a vast empire as the almighty Jay Dillar, to him, what's the loss of a few peasants?
mdegryse
Jay always replyed the mails I've send him, but give him some time if only 10% of all his combined users send him a mail he will need day's to read and answer them.

Next to that he has to prepare the paid-mails for all his sites and the PTC and ....

Next to that, his hosting service....

I think that a 24h day isn't enough for him

Mario
Halsten
Havr you tried posting at Jay's own forum? Jay is generally very heplful and he wouldn't have deleted you without a reason!

http://www.jaydillar.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/
sophieca
QUOTE (mdegryse @ Jan 11 2003, 05:36 PM)
Jay always replyed the mails I've send him, but give him some time if only 10% of all his combined users send him a mail he will need day's to read and answer them.

Next to that he has to prepare the paid-mails for all his sites and the PTC and ....

Next to that, his hosting service....

I think that a 24h day isn't enough for him

Mario

Mario,

I hope that it's not the case, everyone doing too many things at the same time makes mistakes and can't run a proper business anymore .... if there is too much to do and you want your business to be run correctly, you have no choice but delegating ;-)

Sophie
hatefrauders
i hope everything will be sorted out soon. i am a big fan of Jays. i just hope he is busy during this period and nothing else..
Halsten
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 12 2003, 03:32 AM)
By December 19, 2002, I had accumulated $96.74 in earnings

(A few days later, my account disappeared from Jay's Paid E-Mail -- it no longer recognized my username, password, or e-mail address. I sent at least 5 (polite, non-threatening) e-mails to Jay, and never received the courtesy of a reply. To avoid missing out on Jay's paying e-mails, I re-signed on January 1, 2003.

You say your account was deleted a couple of days after the 19th of December...And you resigned up on 1 Jan.

Your account was only gone for 10 days! And it was Christmas! Isn't Jay allowed to have Christmas with his family? I don't think you gave him enough time and I think Jay went away at Christmas too.
ppprk
I would not rejoin any program if my account was gone & got no reply.

I think you should have waited ..
MacGyver
QUOTE (Halsten @ Jan 12 2003, 01:45 AM)
"Isn't Jay allowed to have Christmas with his family? I don't think you gave him enough time and I think Jay went away at Christmas too."


Halsten:

Certainly, he's allowed! However, he hasn't responded to e-mails I have sent since January 1, after I re-signed. As of today (January 11th, he has yet to respond. If he's been sending paid e-mails since January 1, I would think that he should be responding to e-mails, as well.
7cloud7
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Jays-PaidMail
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...930&f=4&t=21086


Or Your were a CHEATER !!!
Ravenn
So cuz he didnt fill in his payment info hes a cheater? ak.gif ao.gif
MacGyver
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 12 2003, 05:43 AM)

"your were"? I can see that Hooked on Phonics worked for YOU, Jay...

I complied with that requirement LONG before your deadline! It DOES make for a good cover-your-###### excuse for your error (assuming it WAS an error on your part), though...
MacGyver
QUOTE=Jays-PaidMail,Jan 12 2003, 05:43 AM]http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...930&f=4&t=21086[/QUOTE]


Furthermore, Jay...

The hyperlink in your post reads, in part:

"Effective 7 AM CST December 25th Regardless of Account Balance or Downline."
(emphasis mine)

Since my account "disappeared" before your deadline, you must have deleted it for some OTHER "reason"...
Jays-PaidMail
Well then Go to my Forum to see if your account was Flagged as a Cheater or Inactive all most all user Ids of deleted accounts are posted there ( and quit crying like a little MORON over here !! )

Cause I could careless about your account downline or balance or anything else about you I have more Important things to do then to go around delting your account

I DO NOT delete accounts for NO reason !!
Jays-PaidMail
Another thing I got your emails I deleted them .

It's NOT my Job to police your account for you . I urge everyone to use a unique password on every site . Maybe your account was hacked either way I personally DON'T CARE !
austin987
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 11 2003, 06:23 PM)
Another thing I got your emails I deleted them .

It's NOT my Job to police your account for you . I urge everyone to use a unique password on every site . Maybe your account was hacked either way I personally DON'T CARE !

Jay, you don't need to personally attack them, take a chill pill dude! Besides that, you could have sent all that info in one mail to MacGyver, instead of deleting all of the mails and attacking them for no reason.
Novisol
Jay your reaction is a bit strong i think?!

Or do you know Macgyver already?
nze
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 12 2003, 12:19 AM)
Well then Go to my Forum to see if your account was Flagged as a Cheater or Inactive all most all user Ids of deleted accounts are posted there ( and quit crying like a little MORON over here !! )

Cause I could careless about your account downline or balance or anything else about you I have more Important things to do then to go around delting your account

I DO NOT delete accounts for NO reason !!

hmmmmm
Jays-PaidMail
No I don't know them but when they'd rather gripe about me spelling Your instead of You that just shows me they are the type of person that is never satisfied unless they have something to gripe about ah.gif
Jays-PaidMail
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 11 2003, 11:32 AM)
I suppose that, when you have such a vast empire as the almighty Jay Dillar, to him, what's the loss of a few peasants?

Then you start off your gripe making Character Judgements

You want to Meet jaydillar

here you Go


http://www.jaydillar.com/smart1.html


meet Jaydillar
Novisol
Well assuming MacGyver is not cheating or anything I can understand that he is disappointed/sad that his account went missing ---> hacking/no hacking it is understandable that he hopes for an answer to his request/questions about his account??
Jays-PaidMail
QUOTE (Novisol @ Jan 11 2003, 06:49 PM)
Well assuming MacGyver is not cheating or anything I can understand that he is disappointed/sad that his account went missing ---> hacking/no hacking it is understandable that he hopes for an answer to his request/questions about his account??

Either way hacking or No hacking if his account is Gone there is Nuttin' I can do to help him . My backups are ran by Cron and we're not rolling the site back to December for him / or anyone else and everyone is going to say they had their stuff filled in after the fact if that is why his account is gone .
Novisol
Well that is a shame for everybody involved ah.gif
Pia
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 12 2003, 03:47 AM)
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 11 2003, 11:32 AM)


I suppose that, when you have such a vast empire as the almighty Jay Dillar, to him, what's the loss of a few peasants?

Then you start off your gripe making Character Judgements

You want to Meet jaydillar

here you Go


http://www.jaydillar.com/smart1.html


meet Jaydillar

omg Jay I'm so sorry ah.gif I didn't know..... such a cute little baby..... don't know what to say, I'm still holding them tears, I wish strenght to you and your family, so sorry ah.gif
DGE1754
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 11 2003, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 11 2003, 11:32 AM)


I suppose that, when you have such a vast empire as the almighty Jay Dillar, to him, what's the loss of a few peasants?

Then you start off your gripe making Character Judgements

You want to Meet jaydillar

here you Go


http://www.jaydillar.com/smart1.html


meet Jaydillar

Jay...that's sad about your son and I'm sorry that happened to you

But what the heck does that have anything to do with this issue?

When he was referring to Jay Dillar I am quite sure he was referring to you/your sites not your late son

I find that just confusing and sad
Jays-PaidMail
What does it have 2 do with anything regarless of what he was referring too. When he wants 2 cock off about JayDillar

maybe he should get his fact straight

It has everything to do with as all my sites are made to make my Sons name the most said and Thought name in the World


They say everytime you say someone who's in Heaven's Name on earth it brings a smile to their face well my son must be constantly laughing as his name gets clicked , said and visited nearly 1.3 MILLION times a day !

and growing by the minute So when he wants to referrer to the JayDillar Empire he should know what he was talking about .

His complaint was to a little bitty site the 8,000 most popular site on the Internet

Jays-PaidMail
Poncer
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 11 2003, 07:46 PM)
No I don't know them but when they'd rather gripe about me spelling Your instead of You that just shows me they are the type of person that is never satisfied unless they have something to gripe about ah.gif

Jay, that is how I feel myself. We all are human, and we make mistakes. My post to you in the other thread was more from experience. ah.gif
nze
Poncer...let it go

slowly,back away from this thread and dont cling(you've been doing well so far)
Poncer
QUOTE (DGE1754 @ Jan 11 2003, 08:45 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 11 2003, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 11 2003, 11:32 AM)


I suppose that, when you have such a vast empire as the almighty Jay Dillar, to him, what's the loss of a few peasants?

Then you start off your gripe making Character Judgements

You want to Meet jaydillar

here you Go


http://www.jaydillar.com/smart1.html


meet Jaydillar

Jay...that's sad about your son and I'm sorry that happened to you

But what the heck does that have anything to do with this issue?

When he was referring to Jay Dillar I am quite sure he was referring to you/your sites not your late son

I find that just confusing and sad

DGE, I believe I know the reason why Jay gets upset. This program is actually in memory of his lost son. When people attack this program, it hurts him and Sherry deeply, and that is why he lashes out at others. Jay and Sherry are nice people, and I hate to see them hurting anymore with these bashing and all that. ah.gif
nze
QUOTE (nze @ Jan 12 2003, 02:17 AM)
Poncer...let it go

slowly,back away from this thread and dont cling(you've been doing well so far)

i'll quote myself
Poncer
QUOTE (nze @ Jan 11 2003, 09:17 PM)
Poncer...let it go

slowly,back away from this thread and dont cling(you've been doing well so far)

Sorry nze. I know this is very painful to both Jay and Sherry. My grandmother lost her son the way Jay and Sherry's lost their's. I would have an uncle, and maybe some cousins as well. I guess I can feel for them on this issue. ah.gif
Kristin
BUT if his account wasn't hacked, and deleted accidentally he has every right to get mad about it, if his emails have been ignored/deleted. if he has emailed you, then surely you could've looked into it?

jay i'm sure there are a lot of people that don't know who jaydillar is. i mean, two just posted on here, and we all chat daily.

isn't it easier just to reply, say you'll look into it and handle it calmly? *she says with kids nagging in the background* lol
RishiBoy
Jay, take a look at this.. av.gif

QUOTE
Effective 7 AM CST December 25th Regardless of Account Balance
or Downline.


Apparently his account was messed with before the 25th.. On the 19th.. ak.gif
DGE1754
Poncer I can definately understand taking it personal...but my point was/is I dont believe it was an attack on Jays son.

I think its great he would honor his son in such a great way...but my point is when it comes down to it ...it really has nothing to do with this issue ah.gif

Not to be compared to Jays situation but it would be if someone had an issue with GoudaSearch (named in honor of my dog) and I went off on the fact it was dedicated to my dog and made a page about that and referred people to that some where along the line....the point is it has nothing to do with this issue
RishiBoy
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 11 2003, 07:23 PM)
Maybe your account was hacked either way I personally DON'T CARE !

Well, you really should care about your members and try to help them however possible.. ao.gif
Jays-PaidMail
QUOTE (rishiboy @ Jan 11 2003, 08:24 PM)
Jay, take a look at this.. av.gif

QUOTE
Effective 7 AM CST December 25th Regardless of Account Balance
or Downline.


Apparently his account was messed with before the 25th.. On the 19th.. ak.gif

Either Way I didn't delete his Account and Christmas Morning I deleted 1,100+ accounts manually who had NO interest selected or payment method I didn't write them down and his 1st email came after the 25th


So what I'm saying is ( that I am NOT answering and my account is gone Questions ) I didn't keep a list of the 1,100+ I deleted and tons of those people write

I looked at each account individually and then cut and pasted their password into the little box 2 delete them so I made NO mistakes

If they had NO payment or Interest Selected they were DELETED !

plain and simple ( If I deleted him Christmas morning ) then Too bad for him .

I did NOT keep a list and NOT one of those people will be restored by me they will have to resign up ( If they Choose )
Jays-PaidMail
QUOTE (rishiboy @ Jan 11 2003, 08:28 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 11 2003, 07:23 PM)
Maybe your account was hacked either way I personally DON'T CARE !

Well, you really should care about your members and try to help them however possible.. ao.gif

http://www.jaydillar.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard...ST;f=31;t=10800

Inactive Members Thread

http://www.jaydillar.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard...=ST;f=31;t=9716

Cheaters Thread for December
Jays-PaidMail
QUOTE (Kristin @ Jan 11 2003, 08:22 PM)
BUT if his account wasn't hacked, and deleted accidentally he has every right to get mad about it, if his emails have been ignored/deleted.  if he has emailed you, then surely you could've looked into it?

jay i'm sure there are a lot of people that don't know who jaydillar is.  i mean, two just posted on here, and we all chat daily.

isn't it easier just to reply, say you'll look into it and handle it calmly? *she says with kids nagging in the background* lol

Like I said I never got an email from him till after the 25th when the rest of the Whinners & Crybabys starting balling and Lying about there account
amysrewards4mail
Did you even bother posting in his support folder before coming here? ao.gif
MacGyver
James,

Here is my response to your various rantings:

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?Well then Go to my Forum to see if your account was Flagged as a Cheater or Inactive all most all user Ids of deleted accounts are posted there.?

And in exactly which remote corner of your vast empire would I find this list?

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?(and quit crying like a little MORON over here !!)?

If you can?t attack the message, attack the messenger, right, James?

Moron: a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.

Ever heard of MENSA? It?s an organization for people having IQs in the top 1% of the population. I?m member #1073083. Odds are that you are far more qualified as a moron than I could ever even hope to be.

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?Cause I could careless about your account downline or balance or anything else about you?

Nice attitude, James. Way to keep those customers satisfied.

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?I DO NOT delete accounts for NO reason !!?

But you just might have deleted mine for the WRONG reason? if you only had the humility and maturity to admit that you just might be human enough to make a mistake, rather than disregarding me until I went public, and then going into attack mode.

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?Another thing I got your emails I deleted them.?

As you have already so eloquently stated, James, you could care less. This is just another example. Nice to see you showing your true colors (and in a forum, no less)!

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?It's NOT my Job to police your account for you.?

I never said it was. However, it is your job to ensure that my account doesn?t disappear from your website without just cause, especially when that much of my personal earnings were invested in it! How many clicks and how much time would you say it would take to earn $56.74 on your website, without having any downline? How would YOU be reacting, if our roles were reversed?

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?Maybe your account was hacked either way I personally DON'T CARE !?

And maybe my account wasn?t hacked, or maybe YOU were the "hacker"?

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(DGE1754)
?Jay...that's sad about your son and I'm sorry that happened to you
But what the heck does that have anything to do with this issue?
When he was referring to Jay Dillar I am quite sure he was referring to you/your sites not your late son
I find that just confusing and sad?

You?ve got that exactly right, ?DGE1754?. James, I can well imagine the utter agony that you and your family endure each day, from being separated from something so precious for the rest of your lives. I, too, am a father of 5. (Your oldest is a 16-year-old daughter; my youngest is a 16-year-old daughter (Lydia) whose birthday is June 17th.)

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James, I thank you for finally offering up some answers. It?s sad that it took a posting in a public forum to get them out of you, and it?s also sad that your responses were so crude and demeaning. But at least I finally have closure.

I did see, in one area of your forums, that someone posted (on December 27) about their account also disappearing. You would do well to read how Sherry handled the same situation, and take a lesson from her.

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lexiekinz
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 11 2003, 07:47 PM)
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 11 2003, 11:32 AM)


I suppose that, when you have such a vast empire as the almighty Jay Dillar, to him, what's the loss of a few peasants?

Then you start off your gripe making Character Judgements

You want to Meet jaydillar

here you Go


http://www.jaydillar.com/smart1.html


meet Jaydillar

Sure is a cutie pie . Been a long time since I visited that little angel face .
MacGyver
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 12 2003, 10:40 AM)

Jay,

Thank you for posting the links; it saved me a lot of effort. By the way, I did an Edit/Find (on this page) for both the inactives list and the December cheaters list -- I didn't see my username on either of them.

Guess I should take some comfort in knowing that, at least officially, you don't consider me a cheater...
Jays-PaidMail
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 11 2003, 09:41 PM)
QUOTE (Jays-PaidMail @ Jan 12 2003, 10:40 AM)

Jay,

Thank you for posting the links; it saved me a lot of effort. By the way, I did an Edit/Find (on this page) for both the inactives list and the December cheaters list -- I didn't see my username on either of them.

Guess I should take some comfort in knowing that, at least officially, you don't consider me a cheater...

I don't decide if people are cheaters or not either the scripts do that

http://demo.jays-qualityhosting.com/scripts/admin/

is an example of the cheater software for finding cheaters and Inactive accounts
Flanneljava
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 12 2003, 03:08 AM)
?Another thing I got your emails I deleted them.?

As you have already so eloquently stated, James, you could care less. This is just another example. Nice to see you showing your true colors (and in a forum, no less)!

ad.gif couldnt have said it better myself.
Jays-PaidMail
QUOTE (Flanneljava @ Jan 11 2003, 10:28 PM)
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Jan 12 2003, 03:08 AM)

?Another thing I got your emails I deleted them.?

As you have already so eloquently stated, James, you could care less.  This is just another example. Nice to see you showing your true colors (and in a forum, no less)!

ad.gif couldnt have said it better myself.

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clare
Jay i CANNOT believe how rude you are. You are a horrible webmaster! I cannot believe you speak to your members this way. Theres no way i would ever join any of your programs. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Poncer
Clare, we don't know the full details to tell Jay how rude he is. We just don't know that this MacGyver was rude himself, or all that. There could be a reason why his account got deleted, and Jay is a busy man to know for sure what happened.
clare
Um well if you read the posts, it is clear that macgyver wasnt rude, he just wanted to know the status of his account and Jay obviously couldnt care less. He just automatically brands him a cheater. Ud think he would at least try and help him out or at least look into it before automatically branding him a cheater. obviously some customer service is way down on his list. Unbelievable the way he treats ppl. Sheer arrogance IMO.
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