looker
Jan 10 2003, 03:40 PM
Hello,
I think TASIAS is a scam! Why don't they pay? People are working for them. Like tasias can do every one! They don't pay on a daily basis.
A member is a person to!
Pay then on time within 30 days!
When they don't pay in 30 days, do not work for them.
If your boss not pay you in 30 days, you go! (yes?)
TASIAS IS A SCAM!!!!!!
nze
Jan 10 2003, 03:49 PM
Tasias ia annoying but its not a scam...I just got paid after redeeming on Sept 1.
looker
Jan 10 2003, 03:53 PM
Hi,
Let they pay on time then!
Tell the people when they get the money.
Don't let them wait for nothing!
Tell the members that they have to wait for 6 months for money and don't lie!
joanne170
Jan 10 2003, 03:57 PM
I think it is a bit of a scam, because you have to upgrade to become a silver member before you can cash out and that takes up $25 of your earnings. So basically you have already given them 2500 clicks from your little fingers for nothing. When I reached $7 I gave up, so I don't know weather they pay or not. My advive is stick to programs that pay you, before you pay them.
looker
Jan 10 2003, 04:03 PM
Very good said!
"TASIAS don't pay fast, but they pay" someone said.
Come on, i worked for it, so pay me in 30 days, or tell me you don't!
nze
Jan 10 2003, 04:05 PM
both of you guys are funny...but i wont get into that.
looker..who is a scam to you..someone who pays you after six months(regardless of how long they take to pay,they pay) or someone who lets you click,promises to pay you and then disappears mysteriously?
If youre very patient,you'll be paid.And if you think its a scam,quit...thats the beauty of this whole thing,you can quit if youre not happy with the program.
nze
Jan 10 2003, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 10 2003, 10:03 PM)
Very good said!
"TASIAS don't pay fast, but they pay" someone said.
Come on, i worked for it, so pay me in 30 days, or tell me you don't!
sometimes programs dont have the money handy when people reach payout thats why some include in their TOS something like we'll pay you in X days or in a
reasonable time .
Sheeesh,i've had to work for bosses who didnt always pay on time but i worked still and yes,after sometime i got paid.
but again,you dont like the program,quit...
QQQ
Jan 10 2003, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (joanne170 @ Jan 11 2003, 05:57 AM)
I think it is a bit of a scam, because you have to upgrade to become a silver member before you can cash out and that takes up $25 of your earnings. So basically you have already given them 2500 clicks from your little fingers for nothing. When I reached $7 I gave up, so I don't know weather they pay or not. My advive is stick to programs that pay you, before you pay them.

That $25 is very easy to earn. I upgraded within a month without referrals, I think no other program can earn you $25 within a month with no referrals.
It's very irritating that you have to wait so extremely long for a payment, but they do pay and they pay a lot.
looker
Jan 10 2003, 04:13 PM
Thats all right.
But the first thing you learn when you begin a site!
be hounest!
Tell your members when you pay!
joanne170
Jan 10 2003, 04:15 PM
QUOTE
That $25 is very easy to earn. I upgraded within a month without referrals, I think no other program can earn you $25 within a month with no referrals.
It's very irritating that you have to wait so extremely long for a payment, but they do pay and they pay a lot.
I suppose your right. I should have tried it for longer cause the money does add up quickly. But I just got bored thinking I am clicking but not really getting paid for it. I bet it is great when you are a sliver member, since you can make about $1 a day. But then if they take 6 months to pay?
I don't want the money in 6 months I want it now
nze
Jan 10 2003, 04:17 PM
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 10 2003, 10:13 PM)
Thats all right.
But the first thing you learn when you begin a site!
be hounest!
Tell your members when you pay!
you have obviously never run a site...
sometimes you start a site with the best intentions and youre like i'll pay my members in X days after they request payment but this is life and s**t happens,stuff doesnt always go the way we want it to.
I'm not making excuses for Tasias bse honestly,i find them very irritating but they will pay you even if it takes a year and in my book,thats way better than someone who lets you click your butt off and then runs off without paying you...now that is a SCAM
joanne170
Jan 10 2003, 04:17 PM
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 11 2003, 06:13 AM)
Thats all right.
But the first thing you learn when you begin a site!
be hounest!
Tell your members when you pay!
I agree I would be happier if they said on there site that it takes 6 months. I guess there afraid no-one will join, but that is what thay do on must search sites, and people are still members.
nze
Jan 10 2003, 04:19 PM
QUOTE (joanne170 @ Jan 10 2003, 10:15 PM)
I don't want the money in 6 months I want it now

then no offence but the ptr biz isnt for you,try a real job
looker
Jan 10 2003, 04:21 PM
Thats right!
Tell your members that you are waiting for the money!
BE honest!
I am sure more mebers will join, because you are hounest.
vietgurl
Jan 10 2003, 05:28 PM
I'm sorry, but this thread kinda made me laugh.
Yeah, I admit that Tasias takes awhile to pay, but hey, not all programs are perfect. Besides, they are a great place to advertise if you don't want to wait for the money. You can also spend your Tasias cash at the merchant stores. When you think about it...Tasias isn't much slower than other programs. In other programs, it takes like 1 year to reach payout with referrals...in Tasias, it takes about a month without referrals to be able to get money...and then you wait 6 months for your 20 bucks compared to waiting a year to get 5 bucks...so there really isn't much difference.
Juliette
Jan 10 2003, 05:37 PM
QUOTE (vietgurl @ Jan 10 2003, 11:28 PM)
I'm sorry, but this thread kinda made me laugh.
Yeah, I admit that Tasias takes awhile to pay, but hey, not all programs are perfect. Besides, they are a great place to advertise if you don't want to wait for the money. You can also spend your Tasias cash at the merchant stores. When you think about it...Tasias isn't much slower than other programs. In other programs, it takes like 1 year to reach payout with referrals...in Tasias, it takes about a month without referrals to be able to get money...and then you wait 6 months for your 20 bucks compared to waiting a year to get 5 bucks...so there really isn't much difference.
Actually no they aren't a great place to advertise..
I've spent $15.00 to advertise 2 programs.. + I had signup credit enabled.. no signups or anything.. no interest at all.. (these were newish programs!)
and now that they have auto surf for gold/platinum members you don't even need to look at the advertisements if you don't want to..
I've been with tasias since the start member 496 .. it started out great! you got paid out EVERY day.. then they bought in that you needed to upgrade (which was fine!) you still got paid extremely quickly.. then he bought in the "could take up to 14 days" and I found myself waiting exactly 14 days... now you just wait..
Its beyond a joke.. he obviously needs help to run the site or needs to admit that the money to pay people simply isn't there..
I LOVED this site and I'm trying my hardest to still love it (which isn't easy!!).. I STILL visit everyday, click all the links read all the emails do the occasional search (if I know it will credit alright) but others are right.. if your boss made you wait that long for payment you would definately be kicking up a stink!
vietgurl
Jan 10 2003, 05:39 PM
really? cuz the other day i spent 16.90 to put in a new listing...and i got 28 referrals within an hour, hehe (problem is that only 24 show up under my downline and so i have no idea who really signed up or not). and then i changed the program and am too lazy to check how many referrals i have now because the tasias site is sooooo slow.
looker
Jan 10 2003, 05:40 PM
QUOTE (vietgurl @ Jan 11 2003, 07:28 AM)
I'm sorry, but this thread kinda made me laugh.
Yeah, I admit that Tasias takes awhile to pay, but hey, not all programs are perfect. Besides, they are a great place to advertise if you don't want to wait for the money. You can also spend your Tasias cash at the merchant stores. When you think about it...Tasias isn't much slower than other programs. In other programs, it takes like 1 year to reach payout with referrals...in Tasias, it takes about a month without referrals to be able to get money...and then you wait 6 months for your 20 bucks compared to waiting a year to get 5 bucks...so there really isn't much difference.
You make me laugh to.
Don't advertise to get paid then!
Did you now that a lot of merchant stores closed!
Some have $4.500 in there account adn ask Len to pay soner. He dos not even replay! Is that good?
I don't think so.
Yes it is a good advertise program if you want a downline with will do nothing. They all get 50 cents in there account but will not get paid!
IT IS A SCAM FOR SURE
vietgurl
Jan 10 2003, 05:43 PM
*sighs* looker, to you, any program that is not perfect is a scam. and actually, ive had extremely active downlines from them. and besides, when you use them to advertise programs that pay you per referral instead of the amount they earn, it doesn't matter if they're active or not
and i don't want to waste my time sitting here arguing with you so im gonna go and do my homework since my GPA just dropped from a 4.3 down to a 3.6...when i started really getting into gpt programs...hmm...
looker
Jan 10 2003, 05:46 PM
QUOTE (vietgurl @ Jan 11 2003, 07:43 AM)
*sighs* looker, to you, any program that is not perfect is a scam. and actually, ive had extremely active downlines from them. and besides, when you use them to advertise programs that pay you per referral instead of the amount they earn, it doesn't matter if they're active or not
and i don't want to waste my time sitting here arguing with you so im gonna go and do my homework since my GPA just dropped from a 4.3 down to a 3.6...when i started really getting into gpt programs...hmm...

Just let me now when you have some money standing in tasias and you have to pay your members from it!
lucyfer
Jan 10 2003, 05:50 PM
i got paid yesterday
looker
Jan 10 2003, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (lucyfer @ Jan 11 2003, 07:50 AM)
i got paid yesterday

and you had to wait .......?
lucyfer
Jan 10 2003, 05:58 PM
i redeemed in nov.
Juliette
Jan 10 2003, 06:00 PM
I have a redemption for november 10th through paypal..
and its still sitting on september redemptions.. hmm
I had a redemption for earlier but I drew it out and spent it on advertising (with yet another shocking result..)
Hopefully the payments will start moving along.
looker
Jan 10 2003, 06:02 PM
I hope so for you to!
Novisol
Jan 10 2003, 06:14 PM
i got paid today as well (gold member - paypal - redeemed 4. nov)
So he is getting forward in the lines as he writes - give him a chance! If he is checking every account manually that will take time...
Juliette
Jan 10 2003, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (Novisol @ Jan 11 2003, 12:14 AM)
i got paid today as well (gold member - paypal - redeemed 4. nov)
So he is getting forward in the lines as he writes - give him a chance! If he is checking every account manually that will take time...
So then hes obviously further through than what the dates indicate..
Thanks for that Novisol
as I said I won't give up.. I've been with tasias since the start and I'll stay with them till the end..
I just wish so many people weren't cheating the system (ie,) signing up for the money and not being active!
it seems hes cracking down on this though (did you see the thread about the guy who had over 200 signups credited and was annoyed because he can't signup to anymore due to a high number of "denied submissions" I mean gees how could someone be active in all those programs.. grr
Novisol
Jan 10 2003, 06:24 PM
Yes - i reckon that if he is checking every account for "fake" signups and other fraudulent activities - that must be a b.... with 10000+ members where most of them will have a payment request pending all the time...
But im with you to the end on this program JulietNZ

Especially becasue ive been paid untill now even though it takes time - and you make good money not 0.01 cent per click like some other programs...
looker
Jan 10 2003, 06:25 PM
That is all right!
Tasias has to inform there members about his payment.
Members need to now when the get THEIR money!
BE HOUNEST that the thin we are talking about.
He has to pay within 30 days or it is not going very well.
nze
Jan 10 2003, 06:33 PM
oh get over it already...he'll pay and if he doesnt,then start screaming at the top of your lungs abt him being a scam
looker
Jan 10 2003, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (nze @ Jan 11 2003, 08:33 AM)
oh get over it already...he'll pay and if he doesnt,then start screaming at the top of your lungs abt him being a scam
HE STILL IS A SCAM!
zOla
Jan 10 2003, 06:40 PM
No he is not!
QUOTE
scam ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skm) Slang
n.
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam?ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.
Is TasiasPaidLinks a fraudalent business scheme? I think not.
Yes he's late with payments, but that doesn't make it a scam.
looker
Jan 10 2003, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (zOla @ Jan 11 2003, 08:40 AM)
No he is not!
QUOTE
scam ? ?( P ) ?Pronunciation Key ?(skm) Slang
n.
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam?ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.
Is TasiasPaidLinks a fraudalent business scheme? I think not.
Yes he's late with payments, but that doesn't make it a scam.
He dos not answer mails and his payment is after 6 month (if you get it at all)
nze
Jan 10 2003, 06:43 PM
thank you zOla
nze
Jan 10 2003, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 11 2003, 12:43 AM)
QUOTE (zOla @ Jan 11 2003, 08:40 AM)
No he is not!
QUOTE
scam ? ?( P ) ?Pronunciation Key ?(skm) Slang
n.
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam?ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.
Is TasiasPaidLinks a fraudalent business scheme? I think not.
Yes he's late with payments, but that doesn't make it a scam.
He dos not answer mails and his payment is after 6 month (if you get it at all)
understanding is such a dull occupation
hmmm,i better quit posting here before this turns into one of those annoying threads
looker
Jan 10 2003, 06:46 PM
As someone said: "but others are right.. if your boss made you wait that long for payment you would definately be kicking up a stink!"
Must i say more!
looker
Jan 10 2003, 06:47 PM
QUOTE (nze @ Jan 11 2003, 08:44 AM)
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 11 2003, 12:43 AM)
QUOTE (zOla @ Jan 11 2003, 08:40 AM)
No he is not!
QUOTE
scam ? ?( P ) ?Pronunciation Key ?(skm) Slang
n.
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam?ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.
Is TasiasPaidLinks a fraudalent business scheme? I think not.
Yes he's late with payments, but that doesn't make it a scam.
He dos not answer mails and his payment is after 6 month (if you get it at all)
understanding is such a dull occupation
hmmm,i better quit posting here before this turns into one of those annoying threads
Did't you have to do some homework?
Juliette
Jan 10 2003, 06:49 PM
I did say that looker.. but I still didn't say it was a scam!!
he IS still paying members even if it does take ages..
he does answer some emails..
Hes still adding features..
I DID NOT say it was a scam!! Just that if this was an "actual job" (yes I should have worded it better) then yes we would all kick up a huge stink!
nze
Jan 10 2003, 06:56 PM
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 11 2003, 12:47 AM)
QUOTE (nze @ Jan 11 2003, 08:44 AM)
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 11 2003, 12:43 AM)
QUOTE (zOla @ Jan 11 2003, 08:40 AM)
No he is not!
QUOTE
scam ? ?( P ) ?Pronunciation Key ?(skm) Slang
n.
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam?ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.
Is TasiasPaidLinks a fraudalent business scheme? I think not.
Yes he's late with payments, but that doesn't make it a scam.
He dos not answer mails and his payment is after 6 month (if you get it at all)
understanding is such a dull occupation
hmmm,i better quit posting here before this turns into one of those annoying threads
Did't you have to do some homework? sweetie,i dont have homework..re-read the posts coz i didnt say anything about homework but now I know that youre way too quick to say stuff..even before confirming what youre saying....
zOla
Jan 10 2003, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (looker @ Jan 11 2003, 12:46 AM)
As someone said: "but others are right.. if your boss made you wait that long for payment you would definately be kicking up a stink!"
Must i say more!
Yes yes, please do!
The reality of the situation is this. Len has to deal with over 15,000 members. Answering emails, send out emails, payments, site maintenance, etc etc. All that he has to do by himself.
Yet in a large business firm, you'd have a group of people dealing with public relations, a group of people dealing with payments and so on.
Like JulietNZ says, this isn't an actual job.
Kristin
Jan 10 2003, 10:18 PM
yes people do join for the 50c by cheating, but there are advertisers who decline the signups because they don't want to pay. i had this happen to me, and i have disputed it numerous times, but my emails are never replied.
billiev
Jan 10 2003, 10:29 PM
They are definately not a scam--too many people have been paid too much for it to be a scam. One man is dealing with all of it by himself. It may be slow, but you WILL get paid, if your submissions have been honest.
Personally, I think he should close the site to new members.
cjay
Jan 10 2003, 10:56 PM
Although I have not posted too many times here, I was just curious if Looker is any relation to Poncer???????????
You don't turn around and say that something is a scam unless you can back it up. Simple and plain.
If you don't like what is happening, QUIT. If you have proof, POST.
Otherwise keep your comments to yourself!!!!!!!
emmzee
Jan 10 2003, 11:07 PM
QUOTE
The reality of the situation is this. Len has to deal with over 15,000 members. Answering emails, send out emails, payments, site maintenance, etc etc. All that he has to do by himself.
Yet in a large business firm, you'd have a group of people dealing with public relations, a group of people dealing with payments and so on.
I am not a member of Tasias, but if I could just butt in here for a moment and comment on the slow payment issue ...
I think that members have every right to "raise a stink" when payment is late. Tasias is a business like any other business. If a business does not fulfill its claims, then its clients have every right to complain. The fact that its apparently a one man show doesn't matter. He is running a business, if he is unable to run his business by himself it's hardly the member's faults, and they have every right to demand payment as per tasias terms.
Just my $0.02 on the issue.
cjay
Jan 10 2003, 11:17 PM
Yes they have the right to complain, no doubt. They don't have the right to say a site is a scam unless they have the PROOF!!!!
Legally, it is what you would call "Defamation of Character"
TishaReina
Jan 10 2003, 11:59 PM
QUOTE (emmzee @ Jan 11 2003, 01:07 PM)
QUOTE
The reality of the situation is this. Len has to deal with over 15,000 members. Answering emails, send out emails, payments, site maintenance, etc etc. All that he has to do by himself.
Yet in a large business firm, you'd have a group of people dealing with public relations, a group of people dealing with payments and so on.
I am not a member of Tasias, but if I could just butt in here for a moment and comment on the slow payment issue ...
I think that members have every right to "raise a stink" when payment is late. Tasias is a business like any other business. If a business does not fulfill its claims, then its clients have every right to complain. The fact that its apparently a one man show doesn't matter. He is running a business, if he is unable to run his business by himself it's hardly the member's faults, and they have every right to demand payment as per tasias terms.
Just my $0.02 on the issue.

Zola: Len does not have to deal with 15K members all by himself. He chooses it. If he can't handle the load then a business partner is a must.. or as someone else said close the site to new members until it is manageable for him. But no one is forcing him to do this alone. It's a choice.
Emmzee: Amen to that!
Though, I wouldn't use the word "scam" to describe Tasia's, I do believe Looker has some valid complaints here. Instead of jumping on the word "scam" why not validate what is being said?
What if the members waited until they got paid to click on anymore links after requesting payout; just clicked one or two here and there to keep their membership active? Len wouldn't approve of that. So, why should members have to wait unreasonable amounts of time to get paid?
If he instituted a minimum payment a lot of the smaller time consuming payouts could be avoided. I believe that has been suggested to him and he hasn't put that into action.. again, his choice as to how he's going to run this thing.
Niels
Jan 11 2003, 02:35 AM
Well the payment request page is bugged, it doesn't show all payments, so they might be a lot further than it indicates.
kingkano
Jan 11 2003, 03:50 AM
What a thread! lol
I have known alot of people that are being paid even though their request date is well past what the payment page says he is upto..... and I've started to notice their requests are all $10-$15. My example, my friend is Silver and requested 30th sept (as you know its not upto that yet) but his request was like $10 - he got paid it weeks ago.... whats up with that?? lol
I will still support tasias, because its easy to make money, the sites is very reliable (compared to lots of others) and HE DOES PAY. Yes he is slow, yes I hope he does something about it - but in the current GPT industry, if he pays he is better than the majority.
Just another 2 cents for the pile.
kingkano
Ravenn
Jan 11 2003, 04:13 AM
Im a member at Tasias.. And nope I dont think they are a scam! Thats not the word to use in this case.. Just slow paying company.. Which is fine, I mean at least they pay! Yell scam when for sure you have proof that you wont get paid
MOKERCASH
Jan 11 2003, 04:45 AM
Hi all,
what a discussion about tasias. Alltough I do not think tasias is a scam, it is very simply to do some calculations backing up that tasias is a very risky programm to get your money out of it:
If you become platinum, which i did i can send out mails (2,000) for just $0.50.
Let's assume this will have a click rate of 50%. This will cost tasias eventually
$9.50.
If been platinum for 6 months now and sent about 100 mails: cost for tasias:
$950!!!!! the costs of becoming platinum is $200.
risky?? oh yeah
That's why lately you can not often sent out paid mails, due to clearing the system? do not think so.
If you advertise let's say for the minimum of one listing, 500 clicks it will cost you $7.50. 100% clickrate, right, and bonus credits also. let's assume 100 bonus credits will be assigned, that leaves only 3 members to sign up and get the signup bonus of $0.50 before tasias will loose from this.
Risky, oh yeah!!
it takes a lot of time to check 15,000 accounts, let's take the merchant store.
Other members take out their earnings and this earnings are put in the balance of merchant store holders. If the member that redeem his earnings on merhcant stores, has cheated, how in the world can tasias penalize that member? The merchant store holder will be stuck with?
checking al accounts? do not think so
basically he never can keep up and he is just paying out of his earnings per day. the more members, the more risk we all gonna take.
At least Tasias should be honest about that!
Best regards
webmaster Mokercash
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