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Music-King
QUOTE(koala72 @ Jan 6 2005, 01:05 PM)
what l are you on about?? these are not scams they are being fixed soon!!dont ad them to the list
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Don't worry! I don't add sites on the list just because of only one poster saying it's scam smile.gif Over these I know these sites and know there's no nees to add it to the list.
catnip

http://www.emails-empire.com/

me think it's scam.....
StecuPL
QUOTE(catnip @ Jan 6 2005, 12:24 PM)
http://www.emails-empire.com/

me think it's scam.....
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You shold read their terms (they are paying like earnings2all.com or raymails.com for example.. )
I think that they can pay in future their members wink.gif
catnip
QUOTE(StecuPL @ Jan 6 2005, 05:45 PM)
You shold read their terms (they are paying like earnings2all.com or raymails.com for example.. )
I think that they can pay in future their members wink.gif
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But have you notice Paid Advertising price really low and how can this ptr afford payout 1 million. I don't know....kind of sound not too good to me. I just will not join for sure. Why because I don't want burn out again. So me stay with low payout for good.

Actually I feel bad for newbies don't know about it they can burn out very easy.
Scomeng
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catnip
QUOTE(Scomeng @ Jan 6 2005, 05:50 PM)
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what wrong? just wonder
slik300
I think the biggest scam site is Earnings2all.
The oldest biggest scammer was noeys-place-pays. They owed me close to 1500 dollars and they never payed.
InWaRdNeSs
what about http://www.euro-postman.com and http://www.justfriendsmail.com ?
lorrainenewman
You can add Dreams come true mails to your list. They claim 24 hour payout in their questions section and 30 days in their terms. Been waiting well over both. WIll not answer mails but keep sending them.
killerdan
www.blueskymails.com
Stijn1234
www.60euromails.com
rsqi
topcatclicks,maybe a scam

i saw this in my account

Withdraw History
Date Paid Method Account Fee Net
Dec 21, 2004 e-gold ****** $0.01 $0.39
Nov 17, 2004 e-gold ****** $0.01 $0.24

but i never saw the money in my e-gold account
superman999
earnings2all.com / rainbowmails
Music-King
List updated one again smile.gif
mana
QUOTE(Music-King @ Jan 17 2005, 09:05 AM)
List updated one again smile.gif
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What happened to your "famous" scam list?!

http://ptr.pt.ohost.de/SCAM.htm

Gone?!?

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Music-King
QUOTE(mana @ Jan 17 2005, 04:43 PM)
What happened to your "famous" scam list?!

http://ptr.pt.ohost.de/SCAM.htm

Gone?!?

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You can still find it under http://ptr.pt.ohost.de/Black-List.htm. SCAM.htm forwarded you since several month to Black-List.htm and since lolclicks let deleted my account SCAM.htm doesn't exist anymore smile.gif
hufort
Hey music,
i am trying to visit all the sites on the list again.
Most of them have disappered, some of them are under new ownership with all past earnings cleared.
List needs lot of updating.
Will PM you in a few hours with the final results.
Bye
Harshil
Music-King
QUOTE(hufort @ Jan 17 2005, 05:34 PM)
Hey music,
i am trying to visit all the sites on the list again.
Most of them have disappered, some of them are under new ownership with all past earnings cleared.
List needs lot of updating.
Will PM you in a few hours with the final results.
Bye
Harshil
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I hadn't much time the last weeks so I'm looking forward to your PN and be very thankful for members hints smile.gif
doublet
QUOTE(mana @ Jan 17 2005, 09:43 AM)
What happened to your "famous" scam list?!

http://ptr.pt.ohost.de/SCAM.htm

Gone?!?

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AND what happened to your uh... infamous promise....:

Remember this? rolleyes.gif

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...6&#entry2947916

Excuse me!!

My name is not "doublet"!

YOU are the one who edits posts!!!

NOW I HAVE HAD IT!!

THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU WILL SEE ME HERE!

I am not going to spend my precious time here.

GOODBYE!


It appears that perhaps you wish to make a come-back by making posts with content tongue.gif that attracts attention laugh.gif to your to obvious agenda promoting a PTR that pays just a few members while deleting the vast majority again? blink.gif
superman999
Anybody mention go-gocash?
Tankengine1964
It would be great if the scam sites also had owners names against them that way if the owner opens up a new ptr people would know to be careful
hufort
QUOTE(Music-King @ Jan 17 2005, 09:34 PM)
I hadn't much time the last weeks so I'm looking forward to your PN and be very thankful for members hints smile.gif
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Sorry couldn't PM you.. i got some work too.. maybe in a couple of days i will smile.gif It a good few hours of work ohmy.gif
See ya latr



QUOTE(Tankengine1964 @ Jan 18 2005, 05:34 AM)
It would be great if the scam sites also had owners names against them that way if the owner opens up a new ptr people would know to be careful
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Just wondering, how is one to know the name of the PO? i mean they could enter false WHOIS info (and thats what they do).. Scammers usually dont reveal their identity
kisaragi
QUOTE(mana @ Jan 17 2005, 09:43 AM)
What happened to your "famous" scam list?!

http://ptr.pt.ohost.de/SCAM.htm

Gone?!?

ph34r.gif
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so many scammers in internet, because they can get a way with their scam act. I got scammed by many scammers in past 12months. I lost a thoughsnd dollars.
Even I was carful with what I spend.
But now, finally I found the true program that gives me endless income,No wonder over 70,000people are streaming in to this program, some people quit their secular Job, coz, this program bring enough income to them. If you like to hear more about it give me your IM name. I Can't give you my IM name coz it is my email address. This program, you can earn enough money to finish your college.

Cheers
Kiraragi
Thea


Just a quick note about that link

http://ptr.pt.ohost.de/Black-List.htm

in your site your "scam" guideline say

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If there's a big signup bonus, it's definitely a scam (over 1$ is suspicious, over 3$ is dangerous and over 5$ is ridiculous smile.gif


Personally I don't think so: you cannot know how the webmasters giving so high bonuses manage their sites and these "gifts"

Do you know if this money is redeemable only for ads or other stuffs (like a discount for a purchase)? Nope, you don't

About ALL my sites give (or gave) a good Signup Bonus, ALL
are online from over 2 years and I've ALWAYS paid ALL honest members without delays!!

i.e.
Paidexplosion: $15 Signup bonus for about 1.5 years, then changed to $5 (members who have the highest Bonus may use it to redeem for special ad packages)
Bestpaidemail: $4
Crazyforcash: $5
Masterpaidemail: $0.50
Wishformoney: started with $7, then $5, then removed but with the possiiblity for members who still have the bonus to use it for ads only!

It's possible in the future I'll decide to change things to fit better business needs, but this will be only my (and my members) choice.

I repeat: BE VERY CAREFULL WHEN YOU JUDGE OR GIVE AWAY FREEE SUGGESTIONS cause you may damage HONEST AND RELIABLE WEBMASTERS WHO RUN VERY OLD AND WELL ESTABLISHED SITES LIKE MINE.

Again: you don't know how other people manage their sites and you should avoid witch hunts WITHOUT REASONS!

I personally banned from my sites any ad for known scam sites or progs that pay more than 20 cents per link (unless Redeem for ads only sites), that's the way I try to stop this madness, but as EXPERIENCED webmistress I'm ALWAYS very careful when I speak about others' sites cause I'm aware I CANNOT KNOW OTHERS MINDS AND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES.

I've nothing against your will to help newbies against scams and I applaude your efforts, but please try to remember your words as a site owner have a big weight for newbies and things are not all black or white wink.gif

Good Luck

Thea

(edited to add the link I've posted about)
Music-King
QUOTE(Thea @ Jan 24 2005, 01:44 AM)
Just a quick note about that link in your site your "scam" guideline say
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If there's a big signup bonus, it's definitely a scam (over 1$ is suspicious, over 3$ is dangerous and over 5$ is ridiculous

Personally I don't think so: you cannot know how the webmasters giving so high bonuses manage their sites and these "gifts"

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Hi Thea!
Nope, I really don't know how POs manage their sites. The hints "How to proof if SCAM or not" ain't from me but from the owner of www.weallgetpaid.com and this is stated on the page smile.gif It's not my attention to hunt anybody nore to damage honest POs.

Greetings,
Roland smile.gif
doublet
QUOTE(kisaragi @ Jan 21 2005, 06:11 PM)
so many scammers in internet, because they can get a way with their scam act. I got scammed by many scammers in past 12months. I lost a thoughsnd dollars. 
Even I was carful with what I spend.
But now, finally I found the true program that gives me endless income,No wonder over 70,000people are streaming in to this program, some people quit their secular Job, coz, this program bring enough income to them. If you like to hear more about it give me your IM name.  I Can't give you my IM name coz it is my email address.    This program, you can earn enough money to finish your college.

Cheers
Kiraragi
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If it is a true program which gives endless income for you... then why would you inform us rather slyly about it... intent on invoking interest without letting us in on the income source? Makes one ponder if uh... Are you not impying that this source is or is not another scheme pyramidal/ponzi/randomizer in nature and requires the source of revenue on a endless line up of Ppl to sign up under you? Is there a $ investment up front or is it free?

What measurement system does endless income fall under? Why bother to finish college if one can easily earn hundreds of dollars per week which supposedly continues as a endless income for life? Can one so easily become a semi educated beach bum with a solar powered laptop computer to generate a income source? huh.gif

AND... After admitting to losing one thousand dollars in scams while being careful... what recent successful track record do you have to offset/recover those losses you admit so readily in the past 12 months which covers the date January 2004 to this month January 2005. Hmm... When did you start makin money... last week or yesterday or is it to start perhaps Feb 1 2005? cool.gif
Thea
[quote=Music-King,Jan 24 2005, 01:35 PM]
Personally I don't think so: you cannot know how the webmasters giving so high bonuses manage their sites and these "gifts"

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Hi Thea!
Nope, I really don't know how POs manage their sites. The hints "How to proof if SCAM or not" ain't from me but from the owner of www.weallgetpaid.com and this is stated on the page smile.gif It's not my attention to hunt anybody nore to damage honest POs.

Greetings,
Roland smile.gif
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OPS!!!
Sorry, thought it was your site tongue.gif

Anyway, my reply is valid all the same and hope it may help a bit also newbies.

I understand the feeling of all members who have been cheated and disappointed cause I was a "member" before becoming a webmaster and even now I belong to some prog.

I opened my first site on November 2001 and I'm still here.

Just to be honest: not all people are happy with my sites cause they're not FAST and EASY earners like some other, but I'm proud to say we can count on our fingers sites that are online for so long time and continue to pay biggrin.gif

I know sometimes people could feel "scared" by prog owners, but if anybody needs help I'm here wink.gif
angelia
dmcashmails needs to be added mad.gif
angelia
dmcashmails needs to be added mad.gif
robd1302
QUOTE(angelia @ Jan 26 2005, 11:48 AM)
dmcashmails needs to be added  mad.gif
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How come? What did they do?
mnamouse
QUOTE(angelia @ Jan 26 2005, 11:47 AM)
dmcashmails needs to be added  mad.gif
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so does moon-mails
as soon as i requested payout, they stopped sending me mails.
That was 3 months ago mad.gif
Faerie
gamma-cash paid me once $5, why is it on the list?
slawekfl
interenet-mails.com - Unlicensed Cash Crusader site
robd1302
QUOTE(Faerie @ Feb 2 2005, 10:57 AM)
gamma-cash paid me once $5, why is it on the list?
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I was wondering that too. Although I haven't reached payout with that site, I haven't heard too many bad things about it, and certainly nothing that would give credence to the fact that it's a scam.

Does anyone have any info to back this up?
doublet
QUOTE(robd1302 @ Feb 2 2005, 12:44 PM)
I was wondering that too.  Although I haven't reached payout with that site, I haven't heard too many bad things about it, and certainly nothing that would give credence to the fact that it's a scam.

Does anyone have any info to back this up?
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Paid once is insufficient information...

Perhaps more detail might be of service to a reader...

For starters...

When was that date of $5 payment. ? huh.gif
robd1302
QUOTE(doublet @ Feb 2 2005, 02:02 PM)
When was that date of $5 payment. ? huh.gif
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Gamma-Cash is a pretty new site (about six months old, i think), so it couldn't have been too long ago. When I scanned for Gamma-Cash compliants, most of them were regarding poor return on purchased ads, and a possible virus in one of the links. While this doesn't speak exceedingly well of the program, it also doesn't make it a scam.

There were also several praises for Gamma-Cash (although few in the past month).

I'm not trying to defend Gamma-Cash, because I don't know what it's staus is and will be in the future. I just wonder why it's on the scam list when I've seen relatively little evidence to back up this type of claim.
hufort
QUOTE(robd1302 @ Feb 3 2005, 12:57 AM)
Gamma-Cash is a pretty new site (about six months old, i think), so it couldn't have been too long ago.  When I scanned for Gamma-Cash compliants, most of them were regarding poor return on purchased ads, and a possible virus in one of the links.  While this doesn't speak exceedingly well of the program, it also doesn't make it a scam.

There were also several praises for Gamma-Cash (although few in the past month).

I'm not trying to defend Gamma-Cash, because I don't know what it's staus is and will be in the future.  I just wonder why it's on the scam list when I've seen relatively little evidence to back up this type of claim.
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By any chance, have you looked at their advertising prices? Look and decide for yourself (especially the PTC prices)
MsPiggy
I redeemed $0.20 cashout for 100 points and the same day it came directly to my egold account.
I'm talking about Delta Cash but I think they have same owners.

No comments, just a fact.
nickniceman
Hi guys THANKS A LOT FOR INFORMATION!!!!!!
I already signed up with www.emails-empire.com
with www.tycoonmails.com and with www.80euromail.com
Also i found that 500pounds-and-500pence.com is also scam website in Yahoo.
I type in search box "is 500pounds-and-500pence.com scam website?"
And found only 2 results.
I am also a member of this website:
If you want to signup to this website use my refferal name PLEASE!
SIGNUP HERE!
[url=http://www.500pounds-and-500pence.com/pages/index.php?refid= referral link removed please do not spam thankyou
I also can tell you that 80euromail.com send adware programs and they download automatically when you read their emails.
I have one question if their prices to show 80 euro email are 3 dollars - than with what they are paying?
My friend who reffered me to 80euromail.com told me that she already earn 3000 euro and requested payment by Moneybrookers - if she will receive a payment than i beleive that it works.
But i agree at 80euromail.com not working lost password page + they don't contact with users.
But wait www.jurassicmails.com contact with users - At least yesterday i received email from Admin about news of their website,etc.
I think its not scam website - but if it is i definetely post earn i moneys from it or no.
Best Regards
Nick Niceman
Gemini4656
QUOTE(MsPiggy @ Feb 4 2005, 09:06 AM)
I redeemed $0.20 cashout for 100 points and the same day it came directly to my egold account.
I'm talking about Delta Cash but I think they have same owners.

No comments, just a fact.
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Gemini4656
[I joined 500pounds-and500pence in nov and reached my 1st cashout dec. 27th i reached it again in jan. to this date i have not received 1 red cent from the webmaster! he sends promising notes but he does not back them up! he owes me to date 1000pounds or $2000.00 american dollars! but I won't get it i'm sure mad.gif he is a very good con artist and scammer mad.gif
hufort
QUOTE(nickniceman @ Feb 12 2005, 03:47 AM)
Hi guys THANKS A LOT FOR INFORMATION!!!!!!
I already signed up with www.emails-empire.com
with www.tycoonmails.com and with www.80euromail.com
Also i found that 500pounds-and-500pence.com is also scam website in Yahoo.
I type in search box "is 500pounds-and-500pence.com scam website?"
And found only 2 results.
I am also a member of this website:
If you want to signup to this website use my refferal name PLEASE!
SIGNUP HERE!
[url=http://www.500pounds-and-xxxxxxxxxx]http://www.500pounds-and-5xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I also can tell you that 80euromail.com send adware programs and they download automatically when you read their emails.
I have one question if their prices to show 80 euro email are 3 dollars - than with what they are paying?
My friend who reffered me to 80euromail.com told me that she already earn 3000 euro and requested payment by Moneybrookers - if she will receive a payment than i beleive that it works.
But i agree at 80euromail.com not working lost password page + they don't contact with users.
But wait www.jurassicmails.com contact with users - At least yesterday i received email from Admin about news of their website,etc.
I think its not scam website - but if it is i definetely post earn i moneys from it or no.
Best Regards
Nick Niceman
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First of All, This IS a Scam Site

Secondly, You are not allowed to post your referral link here. Its considered spamming.
And is spamming worth for such a silly site? ph34r.gif

Better edit your post and remove the link wink.gif
Faerie
QUOTE(doublet @ Feb 2 2005, 02:02 PM)
Paid once is insufficient information...

Perhaps more detail might be of service to a reader...

For starters...

When was that date of $5 payment. ? huh.gif
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I got my $5 from gamma-cash on November 30, 2004.
I will post later when I reach my next payment smile.gif
Pjeras
maby gamma-cash isn't scam?

Who had been scamed?
lisanbeckwith
I just wanted to say that paidsolos appears to be under new ownership and I have been paid.
I requested a payout on 27th jan 2005 (or somewhere thereabouts) and I think that I got paid on the 2nd of Feb 2005.

I dunno if this qualifies it for not being a scam anymore or not but just thought that I should post. I mean if the new WM's stay honest it's hardly fair that they get punished for the sins of the previous owner.

If you need proof of payment I am quite willing to post it. Let me know... biggrin.gif
Thanks
robd1302
QUOTE(Pjeras @ Feb 13 2005, 03:52 PM)
maby gamma-cash isn't scam?
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That's the thing. Everyone is pointing to this list as the greatest scam list ever assembled, but a lot of it seems to be hearsay. At best, there's little evidence for some of the "scams".

The whole point of this forum is to discuss PTR programs and ferret out those that are not legit (which is most of them), but a list like this can easily ruin a perfectly legitimate site, based on an unsubstantiated complaint by one person.
hkoko
Hi,
Do you think that SurfJunky pay?
Surfjunky

Kornel
spiderela
QUOTE(anneke1954 @ Oct 15 2004, 03:51 AM)
What about

Echos emails

crystal mails

Deepsea cash

The first 2 don't pay waiting for ever for my cashout  and deepsea  weel  every one knows what et does when she buys a site mad.gif
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i have been paid buy deepsea cash
freespirit
Ive been paid by a few on that list:

(all these sites have taken a few months to pay me, but they have ALWAYS paid me. Also I requested from tango-mambo which is owned by the same lot, and this site paid me within a month biggrin.gif )

bondjamesbond paid me once when the site first started
spidermanemails has paid me 3 times
getpaidbyemail has paid me once
emailpremium has paid me 4 times

I completely trust the dragone team sites as they have always paid me. I dont mind paying the $1 for a virtual referral as its less than the amount I want to cashout
leevingstong
yeah,I really got paid by lolclicks with SP.
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