I was fowarded a copy of this emailing by a member of hunters and yourptr that member will remain annoynomous it is not important i will say one thing though brian took it in his own power to report are search engines well know you can be the judge your self i would say calling the pot black wouln't you Also the member that did send it because of brian was in jeopardy of loosing there search engine accounts as well.
Hello EVeryone. I'm Brian, a member here at YourPTR. Some of you know
me
> as an admin of YourForum. and others of you may have no idea who I
am.
> Basically Im just a member here at YourPTR just like the rest of you.
> YourPTR is my favorite PTR and Lisa is the best Program Owner in the
PTR
> world. We should feel incredibily lucky to have her running this
program.
> My enjoyment of this program is why I'm writing to all of you now.
>
> I want to talk about points. Yeah...points... those nasty things
everyone
> in the PTR world hates. But...I want you all to understand why the
program
> uses points now, and how those points can be both fun and profitable
for
> you.
>
> First I want to explian why points are used for site support in the
first
> place. I think this is where some PTRs go wrong... they use points or
make
> a change and don't explain why the change was made. Lets take
> SharedAdSPace or "SAS" for example. Alot of sites use SAS as site
support.
> But the most that can be earned from SAS is 60 cents for every 1000
valid
> clicks. Yes that does add up and yes SAS is a paying program... but..
If
> Lisa sent that out as a 1c solo to all, every 1000 clicks would cost
the
> program $10. So instead of providing site support it would actually
drive
> the program further in debt. ANd this is true for almost all site
support
> options.
>
> Some might be asking "why is site support needed at all?" There are a
few
> reasons. One, in order to compete in the PTR world, ads have to be
> underpriced. In order to get ads to send to all of you, Lisa has to
have
> prices that are comparible to other sites or else no one will buy ads
here
> and she wouldnt have any to send to all of us. The trick is to find
the
> rightr balance between the prices put on advertising and redemptions
and
> the amount of site support thats brought in. As most of you know
there is
> a small payout list right now. Thats quickly dwindling thanks to the
> combination of paying outside advertisers and site support. But if
more
> people clicked the site support links for points that list would be
> nothing in no time. Just SAS and Paid Promotion...if clicked daily by
all
> of you, would provide enough money for one full payout each month.
>
> Now.. remember when I said points can be fun? Well, Lisa is making it
that
> clicking for points are worth your while. Here are just a few ideas
that
> are in the works or have already begun:
>
> -points auctions. This started Oct 1st on the forum. Upgraded
memberships,
> referrals and ads are all available just by bidding with your
accumulated
> points!
> -random cash ads... every so often one of the ads marked as points
will
> actually be worth cash
> -Prizes are awarded to the people with the most points each month.
> -random winners... By clicking on point links you could win a random
> points to cash conversion!
>
> Now...once payouts are caught up on, the site support will be used
for
> even more fun things... random payouts, cash prizes for contests and
such.
> Lisa loves doing random payouts and misses being able to do them.
>
> This next paragraph is just for the people who can do searches. Each
day
> Lisa sends out 12 search emails marked from numbers 501-512. Those
are
> easier than regular searches as you dont need to click on a keyword.
Just
> one of the results.... If just 250 people clicked on just 1 of those
> daily... it would be enough to do 10 full payouts each month. If 250
> clicked on all 12 daily just imagine the possibilties.
>
> I want people to understand that Lisa has not made any money on this
> program. I think alot of people believe that PTRs make a lot of money
and
> the POs are greedy and stingy. Lisa has been doing this for the
enjoyment
> of it and because she enjoys all of us. All money that comes in has
gone
> right back to all of us. But shes not worried about that. She enjoys
being
> able to pay all her honest members... and the points links will help
her
> do that.. And she's trying hard to make points fun too... So...can we
all
> pitch in? click on the SAS and Mako and Paid Promotion for points?
For
> those that search, click on the 500 series. And come to the forum...
> particpate in the auctions, and the contests where you can win more
> points.
>
> Together we can make this the best PTR in the industry.
>
> Thanks for your time
> Brian
>
>
Now i have talked to lisa thru pm's and she quotes brian has nothing to do with the admin but personally just a member wouldn't be allowed to send such an email out what do you think.

WOW.


isnt that email from Brian interesting?

For someone who is supposed to be only a member of a PTR, he is involving himself quite well in how the YourPTR.com site is runned.

The title of this email should be: How to report others to SE owners and try to get their accounts closed at SE, and how I can do incentivized searches in total immunity.

Giving a lesson in one Forum and doing exactly the contrary elsewhere?

Well, Brian you are really a character!

Your are putting yourself in deep mud (the other word is not allowed here) and I will certainly let other SE owners where I am an affiliate to read this Forum and compare it to the other one where you were menacing me of losing my accounts.

You remember on the other Forum I talked about "backfire"?

Well, you fabricated it yourself with your hypocritical acting.

Well done Potatochip

Hello...

The search engines numbered between 501 and 512 that I talk about in that email allow incenticized text. I check things out before opening my mouth... maybe you two would be advised to do the same.

Brian

some people just look for an oppertunity to start an attack on someone, dont worry about these people brian, they have nothing better to do.

I am not dumb for not knowing that this SE allows this kind of behavior.

However, you are giving a very bad example of inciting members to search to get paid. You are rather giving us a very good example of a two-face man, but first check (you might be a woman!!!! who knows?)

And explain how a member is so involved as to take the place of the webmaster in explaining how to do things, if you are not involved in any way in the admin part of that site. You and Lisa wrote to the contrary in the other forum.

And please, everyone reading this forum, take note that I have nothing against Lisa of YourPTR.com.

This might not be the case with the named Brian who reported as he said in the other forum.

You should at least be a little, very little embarassed with this, Brian.

But I am sure you are not, because you have no sense of any judgement. The little voices made you right that email. You are not responsible of anything. So, dont be worried, be happy, as the songs says.

Without prejudice

As for yourself, better read the other forum and find out who was the attacker, before coming here for crying. Who was the member menacing to get my SE affiliation cancelled by some owners, without succes as of yet.

And I dont think thar SE owners will do it after reading this last emails from Brian.

Who reported got reported.

Now, any member reading this forum, post what you like, do what you like, reply as much as you like, my job is done here.

Se you in another forum, maybee.

This is my last posting in this forum. All has been said. Now, be the judge etc....

booohooohooo someones a little bitter

Dchal,

Here's the deal. Want to report me? Ill be happy to give you every one of my SE affliate IDs and you can do it. I know I did nothing wrong. Unlike Potatochip and yourself I dont need to make veiled threats or try to intimidate in order to cover my behind. Potatochip messed up and a majority of the SEs I emailed agreed. I have done nothing wrong and am willing to make my SE links available to prove it. I have nothing to hide.

Brian

Yeah... But they do say "What comes around... Goes around"

LOL Getting close to that 30 days TOS Mike. I cashed out close to beginning of Sept... still waiting

LOL, Your point.. No Secrets I am Behind, And you'll wait

Yeah...we've seen in the past that TOS really doesnt matter much to you.

And Brian.. We all see how Two faced you are with you and your Double Standard point of View.. For the record.. My terms matter.. But nevermind

Telling a member of your programs that "they dont matter"... great people skills I must say. Its fun seeing you get flustered.

Yeah.. But See Brian.. Your one of these "Members" that I personally can do without..

Which is why I make sure to follow all your rules...hehe...because I know you must cringe every time you have to pay me.

No Matters.. Enjoy Waiting YOUR turn

I am... And accumulating more each day. Your payment should make you close to the 2nd highest on my list of PTRs that paid me

LOL, Thats SAD!! I dont think I could brag over that

just deleting some wasted bandwidth

Nice Page MO.. Seems like I am on Your mind quite a bit in there..Thanks..

Sure... Ill get em for ya a bit later.

Brian

just deleting some wasted bandwidth

just deleting some wasted bandwidth

Oh well, only for the fun of it, I will answer this one.

You will not have my addy, if it is what you want. Sorry. Nice try.

As for intimidation, read and reread your posts in the other forum.

And if you want to complaint to the webmaster of this forum (the person from Hong-Kong), do it and try to get me banned from the forums. Then everyone wil then know that you know him well and he is the owner of the hosting where YourPTR.com is.

So, if you succeed in doing what i just said, we will know who has double standards.

By the way, in the other forum, there were some exchange of toughts??? between you and another member you know well about asking other member to do some clicking on some links like SAS and Bride.

Reread that also then you might as well remove your signature, because it is asking members to do just that: "Please SAS me" and you might as well read the Terms of this forum about this. And remember you also had a banner with it some days ago.

Check mate, man.

brian you want the terms for search traffic read them well no incentising
check mate
http://www.searchtraffic.com/terms.html

As it is permiteed in this forums, we can do some little mistakes.

My mistake was to read a little too fast the Terms of the SE SearchTraffic.

I am copying a very small extract here, so you can see by yourself that you are going against these Terms in at least one point.

Extract

We do not allow incentivised clicks of any kind. You are not allowed click on your own links.

..................

Non compliance with these terms and conditions will result in the forfeiture of all monies owed and the possible prosecution of the violating webmaster.

End of Extract

Read the Terms again. YourPtr.com account is now in danger with this SE.

You were the accuser and the informer in the other forum.

Very curious now that you are writing here that you did nothing wrong ( or the site YourPTR.com ) !!!!!

You will always impressed me. You saw so easily and clearly the mote in my eye but not the beam in yours.

Without prejudice

Hmmm...they must have changed that since I recommended them to Lisa... I had actually gotten the idea from another PTR and at that time I scoured the TOS to see what was allowed and what wasnt.

But...unlike Taterchip who couldnt admit when she was wrong... I will send a retraction out to the membership that I was wrong for posting that. I never saw anything like that comes from hunters. AND... there still was no threatening the YourPTR members like taterchip did...and we certainly never posted anyone's user names.

Just looking through some hunters emails...

This could be considered incentivcizing:





So...while I admit I made a mistake... and Im not even sure that paragraph could be considered incentivcizing since I didnt beg, plead or threaten...just told the some benefits of clicking, I will post a retraction to the membership...meanwhile...taterchip continues to break the rules.

Brian

Birds of a feather flock together

brian i am always sending out peoples user names that is how i contact members to get gold members ads in or a missing ad all there are are usernames that is it no first name no last name no email addy.
and i got a very nice letter in from a hunter supporter quote unquote
your like our mother hen you offer us what personal medical advice you can because that is what a do because if have had certain medical problems to deal with i have also taken MOA course. also a file clerk course to work in doctors or hospital offices.
She wasnt good and writing things so i am adding that in.
She also stated you praise us when we do good and you scold us when we are bad.
and once again brian this whole issue is not weather people are searching or not i dont care about that i care about catching the bot cheaters those are the ones that have been deleted from the site. and unfortunately some of those members were in search friendly country .

I quote unquote would never delete a member for not searching that is there choice whether they make a search or not.
and since your in the admin of your ptr i guess you got the email i sent to lisa
because i havent had a reply back as of yet.

and you want to know something real funny brian i got an email from a search engine that said please inform your members to make valid searches now isn't that a laugh.
but i emailed them and said you can't do that it is against feed rules.

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE



Someone's else fault. Was not there when I read it.

Excuses. Excuses........

I hope you now understand what a backfire is? I told you.

Next time, think twice before throwing mud on others.

I am sure you should listen more carefully to the (you know) little voices.....

So, please do all of us a favor and mind your own business before others' business.


I had so much fun with all this, I think I will send you a

Whats wrong Brian?? Cant handle the Heat??

You spin better than a politican Paula.

Have you seen me backing down Mike? I don't think you have. BTW...how old are you again??? Your comments seem to be getting quite immature.

This is Pretty AWESOME advice.. But then one must remember.. Certain individuals LIVE to hurt others.. LOL cant for the life of me figure out why.. Jealousy is All I can think

Cannot wait to read you.

Hurry up I have some valid searches to do.

Please dont spend my time waiting for your divine toughts.

Yup, Yup.. Take my Immaturity and use that to deflect the fact that YOU Violated SE Terms.. Hope nobody gives you a taste of YOUR medicine

LOL.

I would do the same thing again and will continue to do so. I was big enough to admit I may have made a mistake and will clarify my post with the members of YourPTR. I didnt throw mud on anyone. I called attention to something that was wrong...am proud I did it and will continue to do so if it happens again no matter who it is. Even if Lisa herself suddenly started demanding searches or threatening people...if she refused to stop after I mentioned it to her I would report her as well.

Brian

You give your members medical advice??!!! Are you a doctor or a nurse?

And I sure wouldn't want my username going out in a ranting email to all the members of any program I'm in either.

LOL... you admitted you were immature. Kewl. As least I can admit when I might be wrong.

Big? you say BIG. I say Big Mouth.

and

Are you talking about Lisa working with the Maniac?

Yeah.. And where have YOU been.. So What.. I think one would almost have to be Immature to deal wth the "Ongoing Saga" and Still smile.. Ya know

Maniac??? huh??? I was talking about Lisa from YourPTR

only personal advice that some of the members have the same issues with i don't go telling them something that i have no idea about.
and they are grateful for the helpful advice if they don't act up on it then that is there choice.

And the CajunLady who owns no site but who likes to put her oar in.

Medical advice !!!!! This is coming from someone else.

Please dont interpret.

We have Brian doing this, this is enough of one here.

just deleting some wasted bandwidth

No comment on the Big Mouth !!!!!


It must be true, then


lol lol lol

You might be right MO.

But ask yourself if the Bucket is half full or half empty !!!!!

See ya

Now i really have to do some serious valid searches.

and i will send you tons got lots of them advertisers mostly.
but i have bigger thought to think about than hunting brian down or anyone else for what text they use in email ads.
I have personal issues to deal with i am facing an upcomming death and getting myself prepared for it i dealt with death at an early age so i know the signs so if i disappear this is why.
love peace and joy and lets help the victims of the hurricanes that is why hunters is here to help others not to bicker.