QUOTE(rebainreno @ Sep 23 2004, 09:01 AM)
I left rainbuckets a while ago too. Seemed like we all got scammed again. Scams seem to be the norm round here. I think all the WM's were the same guy at rainbuckets is that wrong? What other sites did they run?
Reba
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Answer:
Looking back.. to what was uh... known prior to May 17, 2004
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...ic=176733&st=15(Copy and paste for u if u r too busy to clck on link...)
There also are the other examples of known deceptive preplanners such as the WM of RAINBUCKETS who went on to create 37-21 which went POOF and now some of us are waiting for the next PTR to emerge from the mire of the mind of this WM.
Note also that Rainbuckets was supposidly sold to a New WM but it appears that it is still the same old WM.. with a AKA
HEY!! Was 37-21 also sold to a New WM?? HAH hahahaha

And if you wish to read some more content of that May 17 post:
Sadly only the WM of WANNABERICHPAYSU has been hounded down. Some members of the GPF are to be congratulated on that! But perhaps the many all round offerings of congratulations was premature.. In my opinion this was somewhat unfair.. Why unfair? Sure these scammers require hounding at but why aren't the all the others such as ET, Denise, Anniesformer WM, been given the same intense treatment? Sure.. Mendy has been exposed but still didn't get shamed the way Wannaberich's WM was.. Heck most of the rest of them were even worse and some still are active scammers.. Perhaps some WMs are slipperier.. Teflon WMs some of whom reappear from the ashes of thousands of cremated fingers they had set on fire. Yeah.. the word SCAM fits!
While the focus of the most avid GPF activists has been on the boycott/lifting of AYS over the last couple of days the "Hot Potatoe" operators continue on in the shadows without being really hounded down.. Sure 37-21's PTR was made fun of.. but no one hunted the WM down Does that scenerio seem sane? It's kind of a circus..
It seems to me that the greater majority of GPF activists are each running their own agenda and playing along with the PTR game. Collusion with scammers seems to be somewhat acceptable because they (some GPF members) have a invested interest of making some $ off of PTR. Many are in the game of slow but sure gathering of referrals for mant unsustainable and sustainable PTRs. Others are owners, some who take a aggressive or defensive stance. And.. Surprise.. Some owners are really honest. Well a few dozen of the hundreds are.. Still others (members and owners) are camp followers - ranging from simple to deceptive including brainwashed. The Stockholm syndrome often comes to mind. Oh my.. The list goes on and on. Motivation? It is mix.. a form of entertainment, being able to participate as a personality in a social structure juggling for dominance and at the same time generating a source of pocket money.
But how does all this help the individual who signup in good faith and becomes only one of the huge turnover of newbies - most of whom usually end up clicking for little or nothing in the meat-grinder of PTRland.
And yes, there are the dozens of PTRs that do pay. But they are not as uh attractive $$$ to a newbie..
So how will some GPF activists who wish to help clean out the worst offender WMs who give the PTR "industry" a black eye going to accomplish the mission of educating the newbie in what PTR not to join in a systematical manner that is easily understood by all?
Hmmm..
Attacking GPTBoycott.com in the AYS case was not all too productive in achieving that goal. Was it..
What was the real problem.. ?
The real problem probably was that if AYS was placed on the boyctt list then ALL PTRS who don't pay all not cheating members should also be included! Just listing a few and not listing the many who are even much much worse is not only unfair but gives the impression that those that are not listed are "honest" and paying all members. Uh hu..
YES!
Any WM who has a case history of not paying their members of their PTR should be listed at GPTBoycott.com. That.. not being paid after being promised PaidToRead constitutes nothing less than FRAUD in the advertising of the PTR!
Based on Dreamstar.. Why is Lightstar not yet listed? If it is not listed then any boycott 2 months down the line is much too late and totally ineffective.
Supertarmail should also be listed. After all isn't it also being run by the same WM who didn't and won't pay thousands of Dreamstar members..
Thousands of clickers in hopes of getting paid will only be rewarded by getting their fingers burnt! If you are interested in guiding a newbie.. How do you help prevent that?
Any suggestions?

Yll nvr gs who wrote that.. with all those spell errors