I have been a lurker in this forum a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time before I signed on in Feb.2004, I participated when I felt the need but wasnt all over the board. I even "meet" a few people that I added to MSN.

Now it seems a few of these people dislike eachother. At first I would honstly say well I totally agree that that was a rude thing to do or whatever to each person. But as soon as I realized it wasnt adult being honest open and still liking to visit...rather than lose my friends I would steer each one for the topic of eachother...
Hey and its been working, didnt lose any friends, able to talk to everyone and its a basic Utopia with a fence!

Well to my surprise I clicked on a link in one of the ADMINS of GPF siggy in another forum. And there is my name right in the middle of all the bullcrap slinging!

So heres the crux of this post.......should I ask that my name be removed or blow it off.....I have always been upfront with all the people mentioned in the posted on a web site MSN conversation. I dont want to stir poo but at the sametime I feel its very unfair for my name to be mentioned. GEEEEEZ this is so jr. high. he said she said! All so silly.... these people are in their 30's for Petes sake!

I am frustrated and p.o.ed not about the topic as its the two having the convos right to talk about whatever they want, but am upset that one of the talkers name has been removed yet there is mine. DO I know who the missing persons name is YES. Do I like all involved yes and speak to most on a daily basis....

Never two sided very upfront with each! steering the convo so that those things that brought us together keep us that way and dropping those things that might cause a dislike. Man U can't win for losing.....
Dont know what to do! SIGH! going back to lurking and the reason in posting this is I hope that the admin who has the link will see it. Why not PM well theres a little more to it than that. Maybe here all involved will see!

back to the saltmine!

Forgot to add the link in the siggy lead to a page on a site where this MSN conversation is posted!

I try not to make enemies anywhere; usually it works.
I hope I didn't make any enemies here?

Well Alex I am surprised I thought being mature enough to blow off their dislike for eachother was kudos for me.... but I dont care for backbiting or chaos and me not feeding into that might be the prob....whodda thunk it, being switzerland gets one in trouble...

But there is an old saying "Lay down with dogs, pick up fleas"... when all the poo was hitting the fan I should cut tyes with all involved I guess!
Hindsight is 20/20 after all!
Being impartial is a bad thing....never knew that!

Sadly life on the net is just as crappy as in real life.... hence a solitary life, solitary religion, solitary in standing for whats right! So be it!

Sorry this happened Lollie

I've been dragged in too - apparently I have 'ways', with the men, trying to - I dont know, get them to think I'm great? Or something

Thats why I chose the name MandyMooCow; I was trying to be sexy???

If I have 'come on' to anyone, I apologize, it was unintentional and meant to be a bit of online fun here in ChitChat; NOT something serious. I like to kid around and have fun, if anyone feels that my 'advances' were too....ummm......'advanced?' my apologies, I never meant to come across as anything like 'spreadeagled and dripping with wax like the sphinx that I am' or any such thing; I'm just plain old Mandy. I dont do cyber### and I hardly ever chat one on one to anyone, on MSN or whatever, so most of what I've said is well recorded right here.

Sorry guys if I've been stringing you along with my 'ways' (if I have then you will have to tell me since I'm clueless I was doing this). I have never pretended I am anything other than married.

Ah well. Whatever. And REAL life goes on

I'm p oed too.Who gives that woman the right to go around publishing peoples names and with lies no less?
I'm tired of this backbiting cruel bulls*** and just to clarify I am also married and HAPPILY at that.

And to that mysterious talker,who I also know who it is,if you sit in a glasshouse don't throw with stones.You calling people sluts is like the pot calling the kettle black.

My advie to all of you is don't talk to anybody on her on msn or any other mesenger or before you know it your name will be dragged through the dirt and published for everybody to see.
Maybe Igwong should rename this forum pit of vipers that would be more fitting.

I'm outta here cause I'm fresh out of antidote against snake venom.You all just keep stabbing each others back and enjoy.

Not you too Wildcherry
Come on guys, please dont let her get to you? I dont know what her problem is but its obviously some deep issue; dont leave GPF over it, just stay in ChitChat nobody stabs anyone in the back here, or if they do then I dont know about it yet.

Oh and to clarify as well (in case anyone might have though elsewise) I am also HAPPILY married and chose my name for the specific reason that I NOT appear some sexy little female.

Edited to add: reason I'm posting this stuff is because my name is also in that MSN conversation

Mandy what does anyone care if we leave.....

How often have u seen me feed into the feeding frinzy around here? HUH?
what benefit do I bring NONE.....no skin off my nose...
And frankly I dont like that I have become just what I dislike...no more fun all defensive...

But I want to make this clear... I have never had "cyber" relations with anyone..... And I take great execption to Xena posting on her site that someone said I did with them... she should not have published something that she knows nothing about....

I like Xena for seemingly being upfront and not all smiles and then a snake behind someones back... guess I was wrong in finding a good quaility in her.....

So delete away mods, admin whoever....Shame on you Xena for being underhanded and as two faced as Sophie....as you say~


Here ya go .... she has a link in her boycott siggy... so I'll share too!

http://www.geocities.com/baroque_xena/truth.txt

I agree there Lollie.I am tired of havig to defend myself for things I haven't done.I think Baroque Xena needs to check her facts before she goes on publishing convos.I don't want to be part of a forum where sneaky mods go around spreading lies about members and knowing on top of that these people can read my pms. I have better things to do with my time and energy.

I know what you mean, Lollie, about becoming just what you dislike. Its totally not me to argue with people, especially over petty things, or trying to defend myself against accusations.
I have also not had cyber relations, for those who have read that stuff.

I quote:

'and i told #### at that time, that he doesn't know what she's told to #### or any of the hundreds of others at gpf'

honestly, it sounds like I have all the men here under my thumb

If you really feel you must leave then all I can say is that I'm sorry to see you go; I'm not going ANYWHERE because I like it here, so whoever doesnt want me here will have to try harder to get rid of me. As for anyone caring whether we leave or not - for a short period I wasnt at gpf at all (ChitChat) and when I came back, did I get the most amazing welcome back! I love these people!!!

~Mandy

Have to agree there

Except that I have never seen Sophie be anything but professional and polite, even in the face of EXTREME provication.
Truly sorry that you both are subjected to this

Thanks for posting here Emaillionairesemail!

Lollie and Wildcherry, perhaps just take a break from gpf if you need to - but dont delete your accounts? Surely things will get better?

Sometimes I think we let this online stuff have too much of an impact on our 'real' lives. Switch off your computer and it all goes away!

.....if only it were as easy as that

Nope Mandy after today I am done.....

Thanks but no thanks...

Besides you know where to find me LOL!

But I work online, I go to school online....I even go to temple online....
I live to far out in the boonies to have much of an outside life....
I came here ot learn and indeed learn I did... I learn friendship means nothing, I learned people love chaos and cruelty, I learned that tolerance isnt something all people share.... At first I thought its because I am of the Old religion as most people here are christain... then I figure well I am kind for the most part although I can have a rather sharp tongue when pushed....

So I learned, I lost, I gained and in the end I can sleep cuz I know I was true to me and my faith and my belief system.....

And sadly I think those that are underhanded and love causes trouble can sleep better than me!

Yup, I know where to find you Lollie.

Believe me, for some people, regardless of religion, friendship means the world. To others it means nothing. I think in the end it comes down to being careful with who you trust, which is sad but necessary.

What goes around comes around.

After carefully reading everything about this I have but one thing to say. People who have to go behind others backs to make up untrue stuff and throws peoples names around.try to imply they are something there not,simply are crying for help,unforunatly I'm unsure what kind of help you need,but you seem to be having trouble locating a man or pleasing your spouse,but it still didn't give you the right to do what you have done maybe your the ones misleading men as well as women if you want friends you have to be kind you can't just pretend.This is something I would expect out of children so I am guessing you would like to be treated like children as thats what your actions and words tell me.You should be ashamed of yourselves and write a serious and well meant apology to all invoved in your vindictive scheme.

if this is evidence of 'friendship' no one in the world needs enemies

Well I'll say this.

First, I don't know where some folks get off posting PRIVATE chat logs, especially ones that are months old. Makes you wonder if there's anyone who can be trusted these days.



that is TRUE. and you were informed at that time what had been said, and that it had been cleared up by ME, that it just more lies and twisted words by someone else at that time, IF the supposed person even said anything of that sort



at that time there were a lot of things being said about you from a lot of people, and not just the ones who are chatting in that log




you're quite right there. and I have learned that people are so eager to believe disloyalty in others that they'll act before they think sometimes, but when it all boils down to it, they really should have thought better.

Care to elaborate on who all these many people are who suddenly found themselves saying things about me?

To be honest, I didnt realize I was that important until I heard you all were discussing me

Makes ya wonder dont it Ti?..................... Even if this person I supposedly cybered with even said it...LOL

What a wicked web they weave.

But I really dont ccare who said so much as I feel a lot of people trust was violated by Xena posting that on her site....

People should feel free to say whatever to "friends" and it go no further.

I also see that this thread is trying to get buried! LOL go for it guys!

And your right I did know what was being said and know it was defended by you.....I cant comprehend why Xena felt the need to leave that snippet with my name in it when she trashed so much of the rest of the conversation. Boggles the mind!

As I posted in the other thread.I think Xena needs to be demoted.She has no place being a mod here with the kinds of things she is pulling.

Mandy, Wildcherry and Lollie.... I really dont know what to say. I guess asking some questions has had some far reaching effects.

I hope you all dont quit .... Why let someone defeat you? You dont have to answer to anyone or anybody about your private lives or what you said in a private conversation.

Mandy..... I could care less what those IM's say about you. Most decent people dont judge a book by its cover.

This forum is having a hard time right now....... but its really been coming for a long time. I always think that best time is right after a storm... all the nastiness is washed away and its then time for a fresh start...... I hope you all weather this storm.

This subject is a little contriversal so i'll just say a few things then get out.

1. I'm sorry if this happened to you. We don't need people mud slinging, it all for the worst in the end.
2. I always thought that your name mandy was meant to be funny. The siggy backed up my theory.
3. I agree with mandy on that chit-chat is a "safe harbor". Most if not all of the stuff here is just joking and for fun.
4. Lollie, I would care if you guys left, you add a touch to this forum that no one else can.
5. Agreed, people need to check there facts before they post, but not many do. Unforunatly you can't stop it and it cause problems.
6.Again I agree, sometimes the best thing to do is get away from it all. The stress will leave and you can relaxe and sort out your thoughts.
7. Once again I agree, I really don't care what I see in chat logs, if there is no evidence to back it up then all the chat log is doing is taking up hardrive space somewhere as far I as care. Those things are easily forged.

But all this makes me wonder, whats being said about me?

*edited* I need to retake my typing class.

I would also like to add a brief message in here.

First, I agree with everything Firebyrd said.

Second, Mandy, Lollie, and the rest of you regulars make Chit-Chat a wonderful place and I miss it when you guys aren't around. You make the threads and polls so much fun, especially when there are several going really fast, when they are funny, and they are hard to keep up with.

Third, you guys always seem to be around when someone needs a good support system. Anyone who comes in here needing help is just blanketed by this, I don't even know the word for it - massive quilt of friendship. I haven't been around here a long time, but since I've been here, I have been absolutely surrounded by support several times when I've needed it - emotional support, tecnical support, cheering up, whatever.

That is priceless.

And I am so grateful that I have found a place like this. None of you can ever know how much I needed it and I hope no one ever messes it up for me or for any of you. Please don't let gossip ruin it for you. Gossip is everywhere. Those of us who "know" you, know better. Do what you have to do, but know you have friends here who don't care about the gossip. I have never met any of you face to face and likely never will, but I consider all of you my friends.

Agreed

roadrunner you're quite correct. i met my 2 best online friends right here in chitchat in this very forum. couldn't make it through a lot of days without those girls i tell ya.

all of it isn't a bad place. and it's time for some old demons to be exorcised and to let bygones be bygones.

Well I hate to leave and I dont feel it was an empty threat.... but I know it's not my nature to be so defensive all the danged time.... I dont like what I have become when I come here, short tempered, less centered and I really dont like not being able to voice calmly opinions without everyone and there brother running to point out how silly I am....
Silly or not they are valid to me.....

I enjoyed this place so much in the past...but no feel guarded in what I say... If ya dont believe me please take 30 minutes and go to about page 30 of my overall post... FUN FUN FUN, now I rarely post with the exception of today! I was on a mission of what I dunno ! LOL

thanks for the kind words.. I means alot! Can I go on vacation from here?

Trust me a vaction is what all of us need. If you don't then you will go crazy and all sorts of bad stuff.

It really is for the best when you take a vaction form GPF.

Everyone shows there bad side, its normal and healthy (You need to let out the stress).

Un plug the computer, give the cable to your kids for friends to keep for a while and go outside.

People will make fun of you and harass you, you can't help it, it happens to all of us. You just need to shrug off the lies and move on.

Feel better.

WOW.


Mystical, firebyrd and roadrunner - thank you!!

Ti, I dont know how you feel about me, but what was said in that log was meant to be private so I'm going to ignore it, upsetting as I find it. Whats done is done, no point in going on about things.

My sincere apologies to ANYONE who has thought that we could be more than just friends, the fact that I am a married mother is pretty much well-known.

~Mandy

Mandy and Lollie - You are two of the nicest people I've ever met on this forum. I missed all of the mud-slinging and chat logs due to a power outage caused by the hurricane. I don't need to see them. I wouldn't believe a word of it anyway. Why anyone would intentionally try to hurt good members who make this forum a fun place to be is beyond me. Please try to get past this and stick around. You guys do make this a better place to be online. I agree with everything Firebird and Roadrunner said - Please try to put this incident behind you. We need members like you here and I personally wouldn't be here if not for people like you.

Cheri

(((((Cheri)))))) for the millionth time, you are the best!! thank you!!

Once again, I truly am sorry if I have hurt anyone, I am trying to go back over my posts to see where I may have misled anybody; if someone has any info please let me know (pm or here - nothing seems private anymore) so that I can apologize to whoever is involved.

If you have personally felt that I've, I quote "come on" to you, please pm me or post here so that I can apologize to you. It has never been my intention to make anyone fall in love with me, or to 'claim' me, I truly am at a loss as to why anyone would do that.

Sorry if I've hijacked this thread; I know its not all about me.

~Mandy

Mandy - You're very welcome. I just read all of the BS, and it's hurtful I know. Please try to put this behind you and stick around here. You and a few others are the only reason I stay around this place. I love you TONS and I know that you'd never hurt a soul. If there's anything I can do or you just want to chat about it sometime, i'm always here for you. Love - Cheri

and vice versa Cheri, I'm here for you too!

Life is too short for this nonsense. Cheryl's signature says it best

I've read many, many threads since I've been visiting Chit-Chat. I have never seen ANYTHING out of line. All I have seen is bantering, goofing off, support, talking, and the kind of thing you'd hear at work, school or anywhere else. I'm a nurse, and believe me, I've heard MUCH worse at work. I have never been offended by anything I've read in a thread, if I had been, I'd have simply left the thread. I've not read anything that has made me think less of anyone, on the contrary, much of what I read makes me see what wonderful people frequent this chat room. As I have said before, the people who come to this chit-chat area seem to make a point to help anyone who cries out for help. When someone says, "Hey I just need to vent" everyone comes out with suggestions, support, or just, an "it's ok, just let it all out", if someone needs help with their computer, it's there, if someone needs help with their website - someone helps. Someone gets their feelings hurt - someone tries to help. Whatever the need is, someone is available to help them. I have never seen any need go unaddressed. This is a good place, with good people who seem to truely care about others. There is always a bad apple lurking everywhere trying to mess things up. It is the way of the world. We just gotta remember that one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch... (OMG, now I sound like the Osmonds ). I realize this really isn't my business, but I hate seeing anyone in pain and I just wish I could help.

Mandy,

I will not participate in this thread any further, but I have to tell you that I always enjoyed your posts here in chit-chat and that I never felt you were flirting or coming on to me.

Bad for my ego though. My french canadian charm must be slipping.

roadrunner that is so true, this place has been a haven for me many times before!! And you are helping, just by posting here!

investkid thank you! oops my apologies, I must have left you out when I was flirting with the millions, I cant keep up