NileCash.com deleted my account with 168$ in it ( that is not old debt but earnings after they changed ownership )
That is too long to post here again .
Please read that topic in their forum and post here what u think :
http://www.nilecash.com/forums/index.php?a...=34&t=2260&st=0
Thanks
Hristo
Full Version: Nile Cash
I'm not all the way through the thread over there yet, but I'm not sure that you really have any right to complain about having lost your account if you went inactive.
You supposedly gained access to your account to find that someone had changed your info, so you changed it back, even clicked on some links. Thing is, all it takes is logging into your account to trigger the scripts to think you're active, you wouldn't have even had to click.
Heather and crew have always been upfront and honest about the situation with Kath and payouts, gave people opportunities to get at least something from that old debt, which is more than they would have had to do. It seems like they already gave you a chance when you were inactive before.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how this is their fault at all.
You supposedly gained access to your account to find that someone had changed your info, so you changed it back, even clicked on some links. Thing is, all it takes is logging into your account to trigger the scripts to think you're active, you wouldn't have even had to click.
Heather and crew have always been upfront and honest about the situation with Kath and payouts, gave people opportunities to get at least something from that old debt, which is more than they would have had to do. It seems like they already gave you a chance when you were inactive before.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how this is their fault at all.
Are you readed all at their forum ?
Im waiting for my money since November , 2003
Why they sent me only partitial paymments ?
Is that my fault ?
That is their job to pay members , and not partitial payments but all
And if they violated their own rules they can atleats leave my account .
Also why they changed my info ?
The reasons are posted in their foum
Im a Ra member with rights for weekly ad
I have a large downline ( maybe about 1000-1200 people )
I have 168$ in my account
I have a lifetime top sponsor
And etc
For me all is simple
Im waiting for my money since November , 2003
Why they sent me only partitial paymments ?
Is that my fault ?
That is their job to pay members , and not partitial payments but all
And if they violated their own rules they can atleats leave my account .
Also why they changed my info ?
The reasons are posted in their foum
Im a Ra member with rights for weekly ad
I have a large downline ( maybe about 1000-1200 people )
I have 168$ in my account
I have a lifetime top sponsor
And etc
For me all is simple
I just don't understand why, if they owed you so much money, you couldn't just log in once a month to keep your account active. If I was owed that much by a PTR, no matter how late the payment, you can be dang sure I'd do so. I realize that you say you were not getting mails, but unfortunately for you it is still your responsibility to maintain your account. I don't know all the details, but since you are soliciting opinions on that thread, this does not seem like their fault to me. All you had to do was 1 click a month man!
edited to add: I also respect their policy of equal terms for everyone, regardless of upgraded status.
edited to add: I also respect their policy of equal terms for everyone, regardless of upgraded status.
QUOTE(hristo77 @ Sep 8 2004, 11:50 PM)
Are you readed all at their forum ?
Im waiting for my money since November , 2003
Why they sent me only partitial paymments ?
Is that my fault ?
That is their job to pay members , and not partitial payments but all
And if they violated their own rules they can atleats leave my account .
Also why they changed my info ?
The reasons are posted in their foum
Im a Ra member with rights for weekly ad
I have a large downline ( maybe about 1000-1200 people )
I have 168$ in my account
I have a lifetime top sponsor
And etc
For me all is simple
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Im waiting for my money since November , 2003
Why they sent me only partitial paymments ?
Is that my fault ?
That is their job to pay members , and not partitial payments but all
And if they violated their own rules they can atleats leave my account .
Also why they changed my info ?
The reasons are posted in their foum
Im a Ra member with rights for weekly ad
I have a large downline ( maybe about 1000-1200 people )
I have 168$ in my account
I have a lifetime top sponsor
And etc
For me all is simple
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Yes, I did read the entire thread. If you've been with NileCash for that long, then you knew the situation with Kath. You knew that the Mod Squad were doing what they could to keep the program up and running. You knew the whole situation and apparently wanted to continue on in the program knowing what was going on. So because they "broke their TOS" and didn't pay you on time, that gives you the right to be inactive and not be treated as any other member who goes inactive?
QUOTE(kglaser @ Sep 9 2004, 09:52 AM)
I just don't understand why, if they owed you so much money, you couldn't just log in once a month to keep your account active. If I was owed that much by a PTR, no matter how late the payment, you can be dang sure I'd do so. I realize that you say you were not getting mails, but unfortunately for you it is still your responsibility to maintain your account. I don't know all the details, but since you are soliciting opinions on that thread, this does not seem like their fault to me. All you had to do was 1 click a month man!
edited to add: I also respect their policy of equal terms for everyone, regardless of upgraded status.
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edited to add: I also respect their policy of equal terms for everyone, regardless of upgraded status.
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They changed my mail
Also before they have period that didnt sent any mails
QUOTE(hristo77 @ Sep 8 2004, 11:55 PM)
They changed my mail
Also before they have period that didnt sent any mails
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Also before they have period that didnt sent any mails
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It doesn't matter if they sent mails or not. John updated the scripts a long time ago so that all a member had to do to remain active was log into their account, so that is a non issue.
QUOTE(cybertongue @ Sep 9 2004, 09:54 AM)
Yes, I did read the entire thread. If you've been with NileCash for that long, then you knew the situation with Kath. You knew that the Mod Squad were doing what they could to keep the program up and running. You knew the whole situation and apparently wanted to continue on in the program knowing what was going on. So because they "broke their TOS" and didn't pay you on time, that gives you the right to be inactive and not be treated as any other member who goes inactive?
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Yes , i know the situation
But that is not just " didn't pay you on time " . That is since November
And that is not old debt from Kath , but that earnings are since they are running the program
QUOTE(hristo77 @ Sep 8 2004, 11:57 PM)
Yes , i know the situation
But that is not just " didn't pay you on time " . That is since November
And that is not old debt from Kath , but that earnings are since they are running the program
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But that is not just " didn't pay you on time " . That is since November
And that is not old debt from Kath , but that earnings are since they are running the program
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I know it's not old debt, but that's not the point here. You were inactive. Your account was deleted as a result of not being active. That is your fault, not theirs.
QUOTE(cybertongue @ Sep 9 2004, 09:57 AM)
I know it's not old debt, but that's not the point here. You were inactive. Your account was deleted as a result of not being active. That is your fault, not theirs.
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They broken their own rules before me
Who can defend users in that situation ?
Im sorry, but from what Im reading in this is that since your an upgraded member and they are late on payments which is a rule broken by them prior to you breaking one, its ok and you deserve preferred treatment? Especially since you were given one chance and allowed it to happen again?
Oh this is a good precident to set, upgrades get away with murder while "lowely" clickers have to abide by all rules.
Sorry for the sarcasm but, you broke terms and its within their right to delete for breaking terms. You went inactive, thats on your shoulders.
Oh this is a good precident to set, upgrades get away with murder while "lowely" clickers have to abide by all rules.
Sorry for the sarcasm but, you broke terms and its within their right to delete for breaking terms. You went inactive, thats on your shoulders.
QUOTE(JadeDrgne @ Sep 9 2004, 10:00 AM)
Im sorry, but from what Im reading in this is that since your an upgraded member and they are late on payments which is a rule broken by them prior to you breaking one, its ok and you deserve preferred treatment? Especially since you were given one chance and allowed it to happen again?
Oh this is a good precident to set, upgrades get away with murder while "lowely" clickers have to abide by all rules.
Sorry for the sarcasm but, you broke terms and its within their right to delete for breaking terms. You went inactive, thats on your shoulders.
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Oh this is a good precident to set, upgrades get away with murder while "lowely" clickers have to abide by all rules.
Sorry for the sarcasm but, you broke terms and its within their right to delete for breaking terms. You went inactive, thats on your shoulders.
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What mean that they give me one chance ?
They never sent me a mail or something like this for warning
QUOTE(hristo77 @ Sep 9 2004, 02:59 AM)
They broken their own rules before me
Who can defend users in that situation ?
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Who can defend users in that situation ?
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Ah, so you are saying that "two wrongs make a right"?
I can't agree!!
Hristo, I am curious to know why you are posting here about this now and on Nile forum this all happened in July?!?
It states in that thread that they "over looked" the first time you were inactive.
Upgrades do not give members preferred treatment. It just plain isnt right. Partial payments are better than no payments considering the back log that they have.
Fact remains you went inactive according to their records. Thus leaving no room for complaint.
Edited to add: Why is it the PO's responsibility to send warnings of inactivity? Its your account, YOUR responsibility.
Upgrades do not give members preferred treatment. It just plain isnt right. Partial payments are better than no payments considering the back log that they have.
Fact remains you went inactive according to their records. Thus leaving no room for complaint.
Edited to add: Why is it the PO's responsibility to send warnings of inactivity? Its your account, YOUR responsibility.
QUOTE(kglaser @ Sep 9 2004, 10:06 AM)
Hristo, I am curious to know why you are posting here about this now and on Nile forum this all happened in July?!?
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Please read the whole tread in NileCash forum
I was posted on July 12 and discussed with admins . The last posts are from today
If you make a search here , you will see that it is my first ( im not sure , but dont remember if i posted against other PTR ) .
Im in that bussines for more than 2 year and first trying to contact with the PO
QUOTE(JadeDrgne @ Sep 9 2004, 10:07 AM)
It states in that thread that they "over looked" the first time you were inactive.
Upgrades do not give members preferred treatment. It just plain isnt right. Partial payments are better than no payments considering the back log that they have.
Fact remains you went inactive according to their records. Thus leaving no room for complaint.
Edited to add: Why is it the PO's responsibility to send warnings of inactivity? Its your account, YOUR responsibility.
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Upgrades do not give members preferred treatment. It just plain isnt right. Partial payments are better than no payments considering the back log that they have.
Fact remains you went inactive according to their records. Thus leaving no room for complaint.
Edited to add: Why is it the PO's responsibility to send warnings of inactivity? Its your account, YOUR responsibility.
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It is their responsibility to pay their members . And if they havnt money to do that it is not my fault
Moot Point hristo77, if your account meant so much then you should have logged in to keep your account active instead of letting it fall to the wind.
Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Your upgrade does not give you right to preferred treatment.
You have been around long enough to know the rules and how things work.
IMO your complaint is invalid.
Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Your upgrade does not give you right to preferred treatment.
You have been around long enough to know the rules and how things work.
IMO your complaint is invalid.
QUOTE(JadeDrgne @ Sep 9 2004, 10:16 AM)
Moot Point hristo77, if your account meant so much then you should have logged in to keep your account active instead of letting it fall to the wind.
Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Your upgrade does not give you right to preferred treatment.
You have been around long enough to know the rules and how things work.
IMO your complaint is invalid.
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Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Your upgrade does not give you right to preferred treatment.
You have been around long enough to know the rules and how things work.
IMO your complaint is invalid.
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If that program is honest they must pay me a long time ago
They just wait me to make a mistake and delete me without payout
And will be post for 3th time ( if no more )
I didnt complaint because they delete my account for inactivity , but because they didnt payed me .
I has 168$ in my account in Novemeber . Am i inactivity then ? NO . And why i didnt recieved payment ?
Because they havnt money to pay me .
Who is in violation of the TERMS ?
hristo77 you went inactive..... you got deleted. Sorry that happened but its your responsibility to keep your account active.
Nile is behind on payouts..... they have said that... they have also paid you partial payments as they could. If your account was important to you....... YOU would of kept active. Thats the whole point... Dont you get that
Im sorry they are behind and I'm sorry you got deleted but... really rules apply to everyone.... and the Mod Squad has worked hard on payouts.....
And hristo77.... you know they allowed you to keep an upgrade they didnt receive a dime for....... You paid Kath that money. The Mod Squad didnt get any of it. Those upgrades that they didnt get the money for helped with that site debt that you are complaining about now.
Nile is behind on payouts..... they have said that... they have also paid you partial payments as they could. If your account was important to you....... YOU would of kept active. Thats the whole point... Dont you get that
Im sorry they are behind and I'm sorry you got deleted but... really rules apply to everyone.... and the Mod Squad has worked hard on payouts..... And hristo77.... you know they allowed you to keep an upgrade they didnt receive a dime for....... You paid Kath that money. The Mod Squad didnt get any of it. Those upgrades that they didnt get the money for helped with that site debt that you are complaining about now.
The terms could be nitpicked to death. Fact remains you did not think enough of your account in order to keep it active enough to continue to recieve payments to pay off the debt owed you.
The Mod Squad has never lied about the condition of the payout situation. You knew it.
Fact remains you broke terms by going inactive. Its not the PO's responsibility to make sure your account remains active, its YOURS. Money owed or no, You and You alone forfit that account by your inactivity.
This is seriously a moot point.
G'night all
The Mod Squad has never lied about the condition of the payout situation. You knew it.
Fact remains you broke terms by going inactive. Its not the PO's responsibility to make sure your account remains active, its YOURS. Money owed or no, You and You alone forfit that account by your inactivity.
This is seriously a moot point.
G'night all
hristo77
I am sorry you have posted here, but the link to nilecash forum says it all, and you are proving it .
inactivity is the keyword here!!!
it is not hard to log in now and then to keep your account open , and if the account was important to you , why go inactive?
and then complain about it...geez!
I am sorry you have posted here, but the link to nilecash forum says it all, and you are proving it .
inactivity is the keyword here!!!
it is not hard to log in now and then to keep your account open , and if the account was important to you , why go inactive?
and then complain about it...geez!
QUOTE(JadeDrgne @ Sep 9 2004, 10:25 AM)
The terms could be nitpicked to death. Fact remains you did not think enough of your account in order to keep it active enough to continue to recieve payments to pay off the debt owed you.
The Mod Squad has never lied about the condition of the payout situation. You knew it.
Fact remains you broke terms by going inactive. Its not the PO's responsibility to make sure your account remains active, its YOURS. Money owed or no, You and You alone forfit that account by your inactivity.
This is seriously a moot point.
G'night all
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The Mod Squad has never lied about the condition of the payout situation. You knew it.
Fact remains you broke terms by going inactive. Its not the PO's responsibility to make sure your account remains active, its YOURS. Money owed or no, You and You alone forfit that account by your inactivity.
This is seriously a moot point.
G'night all
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My point is that they broke their own rules before me . If they didnt do that now i must alredy recieved my payment . I has about 200$ and they sent me partitial payment of 10$ .
And all the time i was so patient
QUOTE(hristo77 @ Sep 9 2004, 02:28 AM)
My point is that they broke their own rules before me . If they didnt do that now i must alredy recieved my payment . I has about 200$ and they sent me partitial payment of 10$ .
And all the time i was so patient
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And all the time i was so patient
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NO the point is you went inactive. The first time they gave you a chance. It's not that hard to log in once in a while...
If you wanted to keep getting payments you should of logged in. Sorry you lost your account... but thats the deal... They cant sell ads for a inactive memberbase.... and if they do they don't get repeat buyers.
So, the because the member was inactive and deleted, he isn't entitled to the money earned prior to becoming inactive? That doesn't sit right with me.
OK , here is a simple example :
Im running search engine .
If member X have 100$ in his account , earned in Sep , 2004 .
I must pay this member up to 30 of Oct .
And if i delayed that payment for reason within that member with 9 months .
And delete that member after 9 months because he was active 7 months after i was not payed him .
Who is in violation - me or the member ?
Im running search engine .
If member X have 100$ in his account , earned in Sep , 2004 .
I must pay this member up to 30 of Oct .
And if i delayed that payment for reason within that member with 9 months .
And delete that member after 9 months because he was active 7 months after i was not payed him .
Who is in violation - me or the member ?
Waiting for payout since November is too much.
Maybe, there really should be a "waiting for payout" setting, like some people were suggesting in the AYS threads.
Maybe, there really should be a "waiting for payout" setting, like some people were suggesting in the AYS threads.
I'm sorry we haven't been able to follow our terms to the letter. But because we are so behind in payouts, we are also letting things slide for the members. We haven't been strictly following the rule that you need to earn $1 in personal earnings for each $10 payout. Your personal earnings are $11 which means we could stop paying you after you received $110. You have received over $300.
It is a moot point but I will be re-writing the terms soon. No changes, other than to reflect how slow-paying we are and to try to make everything very easy to read and understand. I would really like for our program to survive and we haven't found the "magic" formula for us yet that will help us get to the 30-day paying period but we're working on it.
I feel terrible when a good member loses their account. Hristo77 has been very good at building a downline. But we need active members who read their e-mails. It's not good when someone sends an e-mail to 5000 members and gets 2000 clicks on it.
It is a moot point but I will be re-writing the terms soon. No changes, other than to reflect how slow-paying we are and to try to make everything very easy to read and understand. I would really like for our program to survive and we haven't found the "magic" formula for us yet that will help us get to the 30-day paying period but we're working on it.
I feel terrible when a good member loses their account. Hristo77 has been very good at building a downline. But we need active members who read their e-mails. It's not good when someone sends an e-mail to 5000 members and gets 2000 clicks on it.
Boy oh Boy this is starting to sound familiar.......Next program please
Seriously tho I don't think that program owners who are taking months and months to pay should hold us hostage by demanding we stay "ACTIVE"
Seriously tho I don't think that program owners who are taking months and months to pay should hold us hostage by demanding we stay "ACTIVE"
I like your idea Elora. That way, we could still tell how many active members we have for pricing ads more accurately. The only problem with that, though, is that it doesn't encourage members to stay active. We are only asking for one click in 30 days to stay active.
I am waiting on payout from 10 programs, and you can bet I'm reading and participating until I receive my payout. The programs I enjoy, I read all of their mail, the ones that I'm sure I want to stay a member of, I usually click one of their e-mails a day since actvity terms vary so much from program to program. Anyway, I think I'm off topic now. And I really need to go back to bed.
I am waiting on payout from 10 programs, and you can bet I'm reading and participating until I receive my payout. The programs I enjoy, I read all of their mail, the ones that I'm sure I want to stay a member of, I usually click one of their e-mails a day since actvity terms vary so much from program to program. Anyway, I think I'm off topic now. And I really need to go back to bed.
QUOTE(nibor @ Sep 9 2004, 12:13 PM)
I'm sorry we haven't been able to follow our terms to the letter. But because we are so behind in payouts, we are also letting things slide for the members. We haven't been strictly following the rule that you need to earn $1 in personal earnings for each $10 payout. Your personal earnings are $11 which means we could stop paying you after you received $110. You have received over $300.
It is a moot point but I will be re-writing the terms soon. No changes, other than to reflect how slow-paying we are and to try to make everything very easy to read and understand. I would really like for our program to survive and we haven't found the "magic" formula for us yet that will help us get to the 30-day paying period but we're working on it.
I feel terrible when a good member loses their account. Hristo77 has been very good at building a downline. But we need active members who read their e-mails. It's not good when someone sends an e-mail to 5000 members and gets 2000 clicks on it.
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It is a moot point but I will be re-writing the terms soon. No changes, other than to reflect how slow-paying we are and to try to make everything very easy to read and understand. I would really like for our program to survive and we haven't found the "magic" formula for us yet that will help us get to the 30-day paying period but we're working on it.
I feel terrible when a good member loses their account. Hristo77 has been very good at building a downline. But we need active members who read their e-mails. It's not good when someone sends an e-mail to 5000 members and gets 2000 clicks on it.
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" Payments:
Members may earn by receiving paid-emails and visiting the advertiser websites after they have entered their member ID in the area on the website provided by NileCash.com. Members may earn by referring new members to the NileCash.com program. Members will earn a percentage of advertising revenues collected by NileCash.com. Members will be paid via PayPal, Moneybookers, or check/money order. NileCash.com will pay members when their balance reaches the minimum payout rate set by NileCash.com and have $1.00 in personal earnings. Once the member has reached payout they may request payment. If multiple payout requests are made for the same payment before that payment is made, Nile Cash.com reserves the right to deduct $1 from the users account, and the first request will be deleted. While we would like to pay our members within 30 days, at present we are behind in payments. We will pay members in the order that requests are received, for Method of Payment listed. "
That is your TERMS
Can u tell me when you stated that i must have 1$ in personal earnings for every 10$ that you will send me ?
And please give me an answer to my above example
Will you be a member of my search engine if i cant pay u 9 months ?
Btw why u still continue to have a referral system if u cant pay for those referral earnings ?
QUOTE(hristo77 @ Sep 9 2004, 04:22 AM)
" Payments:
Members may earn by receiving paid-emails and visiting the advertiser websites after they have entered their member ID in the area on the website provided by NileCash.com. Members may earn by referring new members to the NileCash.com program. Members will earn a percentage of advertising revenues collected by NileCash.com. Members will be paid via PayPal, Moneybookers, or check/money order. NileCash.com will pay members when their balance reaches the minimum payout rate set by NileCash.com and have $1.00 in personal earnings. Once the member has reached payout they may request payment. If multiple payout requests are made for the same payment before that payment is made, Nile Cash.com reserves the right to deduct $1 from the users account, and the first request will be deleted. While we would like to pay our members within 30 days, at present we are behind in payments. We will pay members in the order that requests are received, for Method of Payment listed. "
That is your TERMS
Can u tell me when you stated that i must have 1$ in personal earnings for every 10$ that you will send me ?
And please give me an answer to my above example
Will you be a member of my search engine if i cant pay u 9 months ?
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Members may earn by receiving paid-emails and visiting the advertiser websites after they have entered their member ID in the area on the website provided by NileCash.com. Members may earn by referring new members to the NileCash.com program. Members will earn a percentage of advertising revenues collected by NileCash.com. Members will be paid via PayPal, Moneybookers, or check/money order. NileCash.com will pay members when their balance reaches the minimum payout rate set by NileCash.com and have $1.00 in personal earnings. Once the member has reached payout they may request payment. If multiple payout requests are made for the same payment before that payment is made, Nile Cash.com reserves the right to deduct $1 from the users account, and the first request will be deleted. While we would like to pay our members within 30 days, at present we are behind in payments. We will pay members in the order that requests are received, for Method of Payment listed. "
That is your TERMS
Can u tell me when you stated that i must have 1$ in personal earnings for every 10$ that you will send me ?
And please give me an answer to my above example
Will you be a member of my search engine if i cant pay u 9 months ?
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I bolded the important parts for you hristo.... its in their terms and has been there for a long time. Its not that hard to stay active or go on vacation. Nilecash does have a vacation button.
Nile Admin have been lenient with you. They also let you keep an upgrade that they were not paid for. Im sure you used your ads.. and that did help create the current debt.... cant you understand that. They were also making you payments on those referral earnings. I know they are working on making payouts quicker... and I'm sorry you lost your account... but you are no different than anyone else. If I go inactive I lose my account and my earnings. Thats the way it is in every PTR i know of....
QUOTE(Mystical2000 @ Sep 9 2004, 12:30 PM)
I bolded the important parts for you hristo.... its in their terms and has been there for a long time. Its not that hard to stay active or go on vacation. Nilecash does have a vacation button.
Nile Admin have been lenient with you. They also let you keep an upgrade that they were not paid for. Im sure you used your ads.. and that did help create the current debt.... cant you understand that. They were also making you payments on those referral earnings. I know they are working on making payouts quicker... and I'm sorry you lost your account... but you are no different than anyone else. If I go inactive I lose my account and my earnings. Thats the way it is in every PTR i know of....
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Nile Admin have been lenient with you. They also let you keep an upgrade that they were not paid for. Im sure you used your ads.. and that did help create the current debt.... cant you understand that. They were also making you payments on those referral earnings. I know they are working on making payouts quicker... and I'm sorry you lost your account... but you are no different than anyone else. If I go inactive I lose my account and my earnings. Thats the way it is in every PTR i know of....
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The first phrase that u bold stated that i must have 1$ in personal earnings and then to request payout . I do that and after this request i was active for 7 or 8 months .
And as u can see if the first bolded phrase was done , i will never going in the second bolded phrase
Are u understand that ?
Are u understand that im in that program before curent owners ?
Are u understand that i was spent in that program probably 1000$ ?
I understand that they are behind payouts and that is the reason that i was never posted anything .
Btw when they have biggest trouble and here was full with complaints i was one of the very few people that defended NileCash
Are u understand that ?
Look....... I understand completely. You are the one that don't seem to get it. I sympathise with you.... but its not that hard to log in 1 time a month....
Yes they are behind on payments... and they have posted about it, emailed about it and told members every way they could short of the telegraph. They also updated their terms to reflect that they are behind in payments. I'm really not trying to make excuses for them... they made mistakes, and are behind in payments.... Does that mean you and every member out there can go inactive? If everyone does that then there is NO money coming in at all. Yes in a perfect world you would of been paid when you requested....... I wish thats the way it was with all PTR's...But it's not and Nile Cash has been working on improving payouts and they have paid you payments.. its not like they were looking for an excuse to delete you. They let you slide on activity once. Sorry but I dont see this having the outcome you want.. and thats to be paid a full payout. You made the choice to let your account go inactive......
You want to use your SE analogy to make a point....... well try having a Search Engine with all of your members inactive. Where is your income going to come from? Its not fair..... but life aint fair. It sucks to lose an account.... and it sucks to not be paid. But you have to accept some responsibility just like NileCash does.
Yes they are behind on payments... and they have posted about it, emailed about it and told members every way they could short of the telegraph. They also updated their terms to reflect that they are behind in payments. I'm really not trying to make excuses for them... they made mistakes, and are behind in payments.... Does that mean you and every member out there can go inactive? If everyone does that then there is NO money coming in at all. Yes in a perfect world you would of been paid when you requested....... I wish thats the way it was with all PTR's...But it's not and Nile Cash has been working on improving payouts and they have paid you payments.. its not like they were looking for an excuse to delete you. They let you slide on activity once. Sorry but I dont see this having the outcome you want.. and thats to be paid a full payout. You made the choice to let your account go inactive......
You want to use your SE analogy to make a point....... well try having a Search Engine with all of your members inactive. Where is your income going to come from? Its not fair..... but life aint fair. It sucks to lose an account.... and it sucks to not be paid. But you have to accept some responsibility just like NileCash does.
QUOTE(Mystical2000 @ Sep 9 2004, 12:50 PM)
Look....... I understand completely. You are the one that don't seem to get it. I sympathise with you.... but its not that hard to log in 1 time a month....
Yes they are behind on payments... and they have posted about it, emailed about it and told members every way they could short of the telegraph. They also updated their terms to reflect that they are behind in payments. I'm really not trying to make excuses for them... they made mistakes, and are behind in payments.... Does that mean you and every member out there can go inactive? If everyone does that then there is NO money coming in at all. Yes in a perfect world you would of been paid when you requested....... I wish thats the way it was with all PTR's...But it's not and Nile Cash has been working on improving payouts and they have paid you payments.. its not like they were looking for an excuse to delete you. They let you slide on activity once. Sorry but I dont see this having the outcome you want.. and thats to be paid a full payout. You made the choice to let your account go inactive......
You want to use your SE analogy to make a point....... well try having a Search Engine with all of your members inactive. Where is your income going to come from? Its not fair..... but life aint fair. It sucks to lose an account.... and it sucks to not be paid. But you have to accept some responsibility just like NileCash does.
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Yes they are behind on payments... and they have posted about it, emailed about it and told members every way they could short of the telegraph. They also updated their terms to reflect that they are behind in payments. I'm really not trying to make excuses for them... they made mistakes, and are behind in payments.... Does that mean you and every member out there can go inactive? If everyone does that then there is NO money coming in at all. Yes in a perfect world you would of been paid when you requested....... I wish thats the way it was with all PTR's...But it's not and Nile Cash has been working on improving payouts and they have paid you payments.. its not like they were looking for an excuse to delete you. They let you slide on activity once. Sorry but I dont see this having the outcome you want.. and thats to be paid a full payout. You made the choice to let your account go inactive......
You want to use your SE analogy to make a point....... well try having a Search Engine with all of your members inactive. Where is your income going to come from? Its not fair..... but life aint fair. It sucks to lose an account.... and it sucks to not be paid. But you have to accept some responsibility just like NileCash does.
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I was posted many times - im not angry because they deleted me for inactivaty but because violated rules . How long i must be active to recieve payout ? Maybe my grand children one day will be happy to recieve them . I was be active more than 7-8 months after my request
And i think that u didnt understand my exaple :
If member is not active , but i was paied him what i owed - it is member fault .
But if member must be recieved payment 8 months early , and the reason in me , and he will remain active 7 months after that ?
Will u be active in Search Engine if u they dont send your money 8 months ?
QUOTE(hristo77 @ Sep 9 2004, 01:29 AM)
NileCash.com deleted my account with 168$ in it ( that is not old debt but earnings after they changed ownership )
That is too long to post here again .
Please read that topic in their forum and post here what u think :
http://www.nilecash.com/forums/index.php?a...=34&t=2260&st=0
Thanks
Hristo
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That is too long to post here again .
Please read that topic in their forum and post here what u think :
http://www.nilecash.com/forums/index.php?a...=34&t=2260&st=0
Thanks
Hristo
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After reading that whole thread I can say that you are the main cause that your account was deleted.
there is nobody to blame in the account deletion but YOU.
if the account was important to you you were at least login every 20 days and click 1 ptc or something.
But you went inactive, and the blame is fall over YOU.
Now, that they are not paying is a whole other issue!! thats got nothing to do with the account deletion that was your fault and only your fault.
and you being upgraded member and advertiser on that site doesn't give you the right to stay in-active more then 30 days. the rules are for everybody and should have known that.
Hristo77, I just read the part about the $1 again and you are correct. It does not read the way we meant for it read. I apologize deeply for that.
Our intention was for members to have $1 in personal earnings for each $10 of payout but you are correct, it does not read that way.
However, we haven't been following that rule anyway. We also aren't deducting $1 for members who request more than once. If a member requests while they are still on the list, I send them an e-mail directing them to the forum so they can see their name on the payout list.
I'd also like to mention that I don't think very many members who have requested payout have been deleted. I check each inactive account for notes or problems before I delete them and I haven't seen any with $10 in their account. (This is for the past month where I have been doing this job regularly)
I'm glad you're not angry, hristo77. We certainly did not delete you out of spite. Do you think there is some way we come up with a mutually agreeable solution? I do not want to restore an account to someone who is inactive, but I could join your search program under you to help you recoup some of your loss. I would need help with it though because I have never joined a search program before and am not sure how to make a portal page. Please let me know.
edited for poor grammar - haven't had my first cup of coffee yet
Our intention was for members to have $1 in personal earnings for each $10 of payout but you are correct, it does not read that way.
However, we haven't been following that rule anyway. We also aren't deducting $1 for members who request more than once. If a member requests while they are still on the list, I send them an e-mail directing them to the forum so they can see their name on the payout list.
I'd also like to mention that I don't think very many members who have requested payout have been deleted. I check each inactive account for notes or problems before I delete them and I haven't seen any with $10 in their account. (This is for the past month where I have been doing this job regularly)
I'm glad you're not angry, hristo77. We certainly did not delete you out of spite. Do you think there is some way we come up with a mutually agreeable solution? I do not want to restore an account to someone who is inactive, but I could join your search program under you to help you recoup some of your loss. I would need help with it though because I have never joined a search program before and am not sure how to make a portal page. Please let me know.
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hristo77 -
I will bite.
When a program is way behind in payouts, it is still entitled to ask members to stick to TOS -- don't ask me why: paid-to "industry" is like this.
The biggest mistake you committed was to stay there for as long as seven months.
Was it just to prove that you have patience and faith?
Well, you have paid for the proof. Dearly.
Best wishes,
Papy
I will bite.
When a program is way behind in payouts, it is still entitled to ask members to stick to TOS -- don't ask me why: paid-to "industry" is like this.
The biggest mistake you committed was to stay there for as long as seven months.
Was it just to prove that you have patience and faith?
Well, you have paid for the proof. Dearly.
Best wishes,
Papy
I do think it stinks that this is the norm--that you can be deleted for inactivity many months after requesting your money--but that IS the reality for almost every program out there. Hristo, you really are a veteran at this, and I guess people are just puzzled as to how you can seem so surprised you were deleted when you should have known very well that this could happen.
I think that you are not understand why i post here
I was posted alredy 10 times that im not angry for that i was lost my account
Im angry for that im waiting so long for those money and i was active for more than 7 months after that
And i think that is not ethics to CHANGE MY EMAIL and delete my account . Is it fair ?
That is moral question
I was posted alredy 10 times that im not angry for that i was lost my account
Im angry for that im waiting so long for those money and i was active for more than 7 months after that
And i think that is not ethics to CHANGE MY EMAIL and delete my account . Is it fair ?
That is moral question
Btw why no one reply to my example ?
" However, we haven't been following that rule anyway. We also aren't deducting $1 for members who request more than once. If a member requests while they are still on the list, I send them an e-mail directing them to the forum so they can see their name on the payout list. "
So for some thinks you didnt follow your rules but for the other not ?
And when you can send mail to members with payout list , why i was never recieved such mail ?
Maybe it was not too hard to send me a mail and warning me abaout inactivity ( btw almost all search engines sending mails about that before deleted accounts "
So for some thinks you didnt follow your rules but for the other not ?
And when you can send mail to members with payout list , why i was never recieved such mail ?
Maybe it was not too hard to send me a mail and warning me abaout inactivity ( btw almost all search engines sending mails about that before deleted accounts "
Why suddenly stop after 7 months though? I guess that's the real question.
QUOTE(papnille @ Sep 9 2004, 02:44 PM)
hristo77 -
I will bite.
When a program is way behind in payouts, it is still entitled to ask members to stick to TOS -- don't ask me why: paid-to "industry" is like this.
The biggest mistake you committed was to stay there for as long as seven months.
Was it just to prove that you have patience and faith?
Well, you have paid for the proof. Dearly.
Best wishes,
Papy
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I will bite.
When a program is way behind in payouts, it is still entitled to ask members to stick to TOS -- don't ask me why: paid-to "industry" is like this.
The biggest mistake you committed was to stay there for as long as seven months.
Was it just to prove that you have patience and faith?
Well, you have paid for the proof. Dearly.
Best wishes,
Papy
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Hi papnille
Maybe you know better than others here that im even not for those money
That is a principle question for me
wow, moderate was deleted ?
it's a good way for wb to refuse payment: delay to pay you for long time till you can not keep paitent anymore, then delete you account base their term.
it unfari, at least wb shall pay first.
it unfari, at least wb shall pay first.
This is a tough issue. Hristro was clearly inactive and could definitely be legitimately removed from the program, but it seems at least somewhat unfair to me that he would not be paid the $168 he's been waiting for so long.
I couldn't find in the NileCash Terms anything saying that whenever an account is deleted, ALL unpaid earnings (even if legitimately earned) and payout requests are automatically forfeited. Maybe this is something that would be good to clarify there.
If I were the owner, I probably would have deleted his account and all his referrals but would have kept him on the payout list so that he would still receive his prior-owed money.
It's hard for me to justify why money that was honestly earned before any membership requirement was violated should be forfeited when a member is deleted for a non-cheating offense, but I believe most PTRs function this way. Hopefully this will change in the future and will help PTRs become more professional.
I couldn't find in the NileCash Terms anything saying that whenever an account is deleted, ALL unpaid earnings (even if legitimately earned) and payout requests are automatically forfeited. Maybe this is something that would be good to clarify there.
If I were the owner, I probably would have deleted his account and all his referrals but would have kept him on the payout list so that he would still receive his prior-owed money.
It's hard for me to justify why money that was honestly earned before any membership requirement was violated should be forfeited when a member is deleted for a non-cheating offense, but I believe most PTRs function this way. Hopefully this will change in the future and will help PTRs become more professional.
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Hi papnille
Maybe you know better than others here that im even not for those money
That is a principle question for me
Maybe you know better than others here that im even not for those money
That is a principle question for me
Hi again hristo77,
There is no principle in paid-to: program owners dictate what they want to do. Members are deleted according to TOS, but if program owners do something against TOS -- "oh we are so terribly sorry but we promise to do our best to serve you members". Some members will even come in and claim that "yes they are somehow behind in payouts but they are smart persons and will pay one day because I know they are trustworthy". (I have no particular program in mind, of course.)
You know better than others that it is relieving not to be in any more...
Best wishes,
Papy
I agree that if he was active enough to have earned then he should be paid, especially if he was kept waiting. Losing the account and downline is perfectly fair, but he should be paid what has has been owed. PRobably won't happen though. PTR should be called CTR...click to read, because too many times people don't get paid what they earned.
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