Your rants against me are getting ridiculous...I know that we have differing likes...ie, I like programs that pay and that charge fair prices and you seem to like the opposite...

however...let me tell you this...I looked up the whois before you butted in with your rants against me..

the info was posted to the owners before your rant against me...

what did YOU do besides attack me yet again??


and I did find it funny that the scammer guy joshi picked mostly crummy programs....about 6 of them have ALREADY CLOSED AND ANOTHER 3 ARE ADS ONLY NOW.... soooooo the "danger" to members is not that great...

anyhow...before you ever opened your mouth to me I had already looked up the whois and posted info other PO's

and again...I never said anything about the members...stop twisting my words...

what do you care about members anyhow?? YOU seem to think waiting in line for 9 months is great....and seem to support undercutting ad prices...

Uhhh...where did I ever say I was unconcerned about sites being hurt by this???

I am the only one who has done anything about it anyhow..

but...I NEVER SAID I WAS UNCONCERNED ABOUT MEMBERS...THIS IS ONCE AGAIN FROM THE ATTACKS FROM BELLE....

Yes...I did say that he had a "nose" for "picking" LOL> well heck the guy picked a lot of losers...a lot of the sites he chose are ALREADY GONE...FINITO..FINISHED..OVER...DONE...DEAD DUCKS...

he has bout 6 sites on there that no longer exist...Mamacita, diva, jememails, etc....and a couple that are now ads only effectively...ie, earnings2all, annies...


So THAT IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO>..

i POSTED THE INFO FOR THE PO'S...if any of you want to, why dont you email them seperately?? I am emailing a few there that I know personally...I suggest you do the same if you care

however...some aint gonna answer LOL> ie, mamacita, jem etc..

On both sides.... Can we leave this thread about a potential scam site and continue fighting in another thread.....

sure...here is the link to the info...
http://www.whois.sc/pluspointinfotech.com

Yes.

Let me just retract what I said that Freebie objected to, and then we'll get on with it. Sorry, Freebie, I shouldn't have dragged you into the middle of my feeling dragged into the middle by Belle. LOL!

Does anything in the whois info look familiar to anyone? I looked it over before it was posted here, and none of it sounded like anyone I know anything about.

Mero

AMEN!!!!!

aw gee...you know what belle...an intelligent person would know the best and only way to protect the members is to alert the PO's..which is what I did..

I am sorry it went over your head there ....

put your lil thinking cap on...IF the PO's eliminate joshi from their data base he wont have his downlines.....he will not longer be able to "refer" people from his site...his whole scheme collapses pretty darn quick...LOL>>>

and the PO's of the programs he targeted could warn their members in a mailing.... tell them to protect their passwords....let them know this is a scam program ....makes sense huh???

now..what have YOU done ?? anything other than attack me?? name it and claim it if you have...I never see you do anything besides atttacking me anyhow

Wrong, I posted over here about it and I know one other person that was concerned even before that,

And now I have posted it down at gptforum where some GOOD program owners
are discussing it now,

Qute Mero
You know, I'd find it helpful if certain people had the nerve to state who precisely they're making insuations about instead of hiding behind vagueness. Allow me to demonstrate.

BELLE:


QUOTE(bellestraker @ Sep 4 2004, 01:31 PM)
There were still a couple who found your rudeness worthy of lol... and even one who was willing to jump right in but had no idea who was even involved or how.
( seems like your normal followers.)

Belle


Well I guess if I was trying to hide behind vagueness I didnt do too well if you were the only one who used lol so guess there must have been another reason
and it is actually a pretty simple ( although not terribly bright) one.

Yes. I was angry and did not read your post throroughly and only zeroed in on the lol to any comment made in that post.
If i had read it better it should have been obvious that the nose and picking...were the lol remarks
For that I do sincerely apologize.

However regarding the comments about my not having the nerve to state who.said the lol..Whether you choose to believe it or not by the time I wrote I did not even recall who had made the lol OR the name of the person who IMO there is no mistaking - that he came in full of ays bashing without having any clue who or what was involved.

I also do not think I said there was any big conspiracy as in fact I do not believe there is. I believe that this is a vendetta by a couple people and was especially bothered by it because it did concern a serious and valid problem.

Once again... In general...it seems that people are very quick to jump on anything I say but when it comes from freebie ... disagreement is shown only by silence...which I think is why she really believes that her posts make sense.( silence is often taken as support)

About being sorry to ignore what I post...Do not be sorry...It is your right to read what you choose and to agree or disagree with anyone.

btw...Have you ever noticed that I have never come into this forum and posted anything negative ( or otherwise) about freebie other than in direct response to something she has said.
If that constitutes freebie bashing I guess I am guilty. ( and unrepentant)and I will even explain why.
In the beginning when this nonsense first started many new people really believed it and IMO it became far worse than it even is now.

By no-one responding it was taken as fact.
Now I think far more people are hearing the things which are true but are realizing that there are many more which are untrue.
I am still said to support everything any of freebies hit list sites have done and I will repeat again...What I disagree with is the total distortion of any fact within the post. and what I agree with...is...IF what the sites do is bad...let it be bad based on WHAT they do...Not on a completely distorted version of it which is often peppered with lies and inuendos

About getting back on topic in this thread..I really do not see that happening here but fortunately it is being taken seriously and being handled elsewhere.


OK...I have managed to turn a simple answer into a mini novel.

I do apologize ( to you.)

Belle

Actually if any one knows some people on an Indian forum they should also be contacted....I was looking at the site and the payment process is really just about impossible unless u lived in India and use ruppees...

and the person whose account he used or whateer had an address that was in india...so this is probably more confined to India...I dont think anyone in other countries is going to exchange money and wire him ruppees as he suggests..??

also....PO's who read of this can just delete this creep and maybe let their members know not to give passwords or use the site...

actually all PO's might want to email their members in India....

but if you look at the site, I sincerely doubt that many others have joined this jerky guy...JMO ...

Other more drastic measures...if anyone wants to...would be for the listed sites owners to email him a cease and disest....take my site link off your site..etc...

not sure but I think all of the above will work to put the jerk out of biz..

Why is freebiesite banned now??

Why am I not surprised??

(lol, the quote thing didn't do its job as it should, my blinking eyes were for teedy's post about freebiesite being banned.)


By the way, can anyone post a link to that AYS forum thread? thanks.

GOOD RIDDANCE! Maybe now this place will be about discussing ptr instead of bickering back and forth like school children

What's the problem freebiesite? Can't take the mud when it is being slung at you? I think it is your personal goal in life to say as much nasty stuff about a site that you possibly can.
I think for a long time, once upon a time, you were well respected. However with the constant harp, about things, you have lost a lot of respect from a lot of respectable people and your words do not carry much weight.
why don't you just run your own program, run it as best as you can, and leave the others alone. Get off your high and mighty attitude.



Yes, a spade is a spade, and you are showing your true colors.

Here's the link

http://www.allyousubmitters.com/forums/ind...wtopic=8815&hl=

Karma really IS a boomerang.

Hot dang! That star I wished on...it really worked!
But seriously, I am glad to see the forum get less condescending and rude since yesterday.

It gets better. Check Wiley's status.

It's like my birthday, Christmas, and my anniversary all together!
Thank you, cajun. THANK YOU.

Why do I feel like singing "Oh What a Beautiful Morning"?

Oh my!!!

Hi,

This is a thread about AYS and PIPPL (not sure of the name now that I type), please try to not change it in another kind of bash fest, thanks

sophieca
administrator

Thank you, Sophie

Sorry Sophie but after being on the receiving end of both aforementioned parties I was gobsmacked and speechless as to what has happened to them...

Back on topic....

To me I read it as someone has set up a site where they thell their membership they have a contract with whatever sites are on their approved list and when u reach payout with them you are supposed to give out your password etc so the Admin of PIPPL can check the site and balance and then pay you. Of course once they have your password etc they simply go and change user info and password and payout details...the poor clicker gets nothing.

However I personally think someone has come up with an idea on how to get payouts without having to do any work...and of course with wages etc being really low in India people will jump at the chance to earn some BIG money.

Gads you guys, just because it mentions ays, doesnt mean that linder, or the devil, are behind this site.

Whoever said its an odd site, I would certainly agree. Anyone figure out its purpose?

I think kezree explanation is very much on target. I feel bad for those who have been taken by this

One thing to consider though is when other WM are paying out (if in fact the person was changing the information so he/she would be paid instead of the clicker) woudln't it show up as mulitiple accounts on the same PC when whomever was "checking" the account for PPwhatever?

That is why the person who orginally brought this to the attention of AYS admin lost their account was for same PC.

It would seem rather useless to confirm the account only to lose it when it comes up as Same PC.

Don't bother to let any of the other sites know? Well how truely professional of you.

Tiffany

Goddess Freebie has spoken so you MUST obey-didn't you know?



But your being taken to task because of your statements-HERE. Kind of like walking into court on a DUI charge and telling the judge "But I have already warned everyone not to do that, doesn't that count for something." One has nothing to do with the other. Your being called out because of your attitude again. Ever notice how people tend to disagree with you???



Yeah go worry about the weather, take care of your family and take a break from the computer. Get over your ego trip and figure out that you aren't the most important person in this industry.

Hey, even figure out how to notify members the next time you take over a program!!!!

OT: Thanks Sophie.

Back on Topic: That was my take on that too. I don't understand what could be gained. Was that the ultimate goal of this herrrrr operation: members loose their accounts?

I apologize Sophie, I was going along responding to this thread and just realized that Freebie was banned and did not even see your post until just now. I apologize. I guess I need to start reading the whole thread before I start posting.

Please forgive me?

Tiff

I do believe it would show as multiple accounts, but don't necessarily quote me on that..... John might be able to give us better insight on that.

Tiff

Hi,

No problem, now everyone has gone back on topic

Metiff I had understood you hadn't seen muy post, you posted like if you expected a reply

Sophie

I'm really new to this kind of board so I'm sorry if I don't quote things right. I was just wondering if maybe the person running this site didn't know that there was a duplicate PC check in the software or maybe they didn't figure most programs do that much indepth checking? I wonder how many of the programs this guy who got deleted from AYS was in that didn't delete him yet? Is every program owner on that list good or 'bad' as strict as AYS?

I have sent an email to all members of both my sites informing them that MPM and GPM are in noway associated with this company. I gave them the urls to the Ays page about this and to the site itself.

JMO: Some of the posts placed here should be deleted. All PO's should post in a professional manner, as Public Relations is what we do.

It seems this site is trying to pay India members(if they actually pay) in the India currency and then having the so called contracted sites pay them the members earnings.

This is if it is legit. The only way to know for sure if a contract is between them and the list of programs is to hear from one of the site owners that are on this list, so please, if anyone who views this section of the Forum is on this list let us all know if you actually have a contract with this site.

Thanks for reading everyone.
Gloria

I looked carefully at the pluspointinfotech site, and I can't quite understand it--what is exactly being offered as a service or how it works. But OK, given that it's a sort of PTSU site, why do they require you to submit your photograph to join??

I'm lost trying to figure this site out been combing it since I heard about this yesterday!
I can't see the benefits at all or am I blind???

You reach payout at one of their so called accepted sites then you hand over all your info for them to verify???

Then you get paid by them??

I'm lost really I would never hand over my username and password to anyone unless I was looking to get ripped off

Wouldn't a screenshot of sufficed if it was ligit??

and a coloured photo of yourself??? what in the world would that be needed??

all I can say is SCAM!!!!! SCAM!!!!!! SCAM!!!!!! SCAM!!!!!!!!

Apparently this is a site from India and I cannot really recall another site based there.
I wonder if gptr sites being either non existent or at least probably very rare- they really just plain do not know about the entries from more than one pc.

I forgot to look at the date the site was started but although it seems a pretty silly scam I would also be concerned about the people who have already given their passwords to this site. ( or if it could be to access sites for many who use the same p/w for all sites.)

I have not yet heard of any site on their list having any type of contract with them.

About the pic??? no idea.

Belle

Well, after reading over their terms and the rest of the site it is now clear as MUD!

I particularly like this part of the terms:"If you have any problems after your training than you are always welcomed in our office with a prior appointment with our Customer Care Manager." Dang, and I was in India just the other day!

What the heck to they "train" you for? And why on earth would anyone sign up for something like this? You want what!!? A color photograph and my passwords? I don't THINK so!

Kind of skimmed this thread. But could they be a site that trains people to do ptr that do not understand english, so they train them of how to get around signing up what to do so they cant get through the programs without even needing to read english? Just a thought.

If I'm understanding, PPIL claims to have an agreement with these sites which would allow PPIL to access the members' account to double check it. The problem is, they'd be accessing EVERYONE's AYS account from the same computer, which would trigger the "shared computer" thing.

This is why I can't imagine any of the sites on that list having such an agreement with PPIL. I don't believe their claim that there is an agreement, because it does violate that rule. The PO's would have to make an exception for PPIL's computers to access accounts.

That said, there should have been at least one other person deleted from AYS: for it to show up as a shared computer issue, PPIL had to access two AYS accounts from the same computer. Am I right about that?

Honahe, I'm not sure how strict other sites are about account violations like shared computers, but AYS is probably the strictest site on the net in general for rules of any sort.

Mero

Noone could download the training manual could they, its an exe file, I
think, I tried, Laurel tried,

I put Ays in the title as it was there this discussion started and because
I know wolfwalker one of the mods there was worried and wanted to
make sure the info got out to anyone thinking of signing up.

I also put it at another forum. If I knew any Indian ones i would put it there too

Freebie also went and put a thread up for the program owners.

with this guy referral link,

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...183146&hl=PPIPL

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...116448&hl=Ppipl

Please check links

with that second one I searched for ppipl there is deleted members using that
in these two posts but you will have to search,

Aw, c'mon cajun, why not?

Wouldn't want to scare anyone! But on the other hand, this dork might deserve it!

Thanks for posting those Teedy.

Seems others have had problems with this PPIL.

Yep a photo of you cajun sitting in front of your computer soing your PTR...

You go first OK?

I was invaded by PPIPL, and I certainly never had any kind of "agreement" with them. None of the 1% of members who DID contact me about being suspended told me what PPIPL was when I asked, other than one who said "someone else signed me up for this emali address." They were eventually all deleted for clicking on cheat links or inactivity, because they couldn't follow the directions to get unsuspended or refused to change their email address from the similarly named yahoo accounts. This was also more than two months ago... so sort of unbelievable that I got contacted about it today.

- Alex